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Um... assholes

Spoffin
20-08-2004, 02:24
This made me laugh

http://www.maxbarry.com/

Um…
Okay, that’s enough. At first I thought this was kind of funny. Then it wasn’t so funny, then it got irritating, and now it makes me want to hurt someone. I’m talking about the practice of starting a post with “Um.”

This is particularly virulent on technically-inclined mailing lists and forums. It goes like this: a person posts something—a comment, a question, anything—and some other guy thinks they’re wrong. But he doesn’t just come out and say that, oh no. First he says: “Um…” Like this: “Um… Word won’t run on Linux.”

This is meant to convey the impression that the initial post was so mind-numbingly stupid that at first he couldn’t believe it was actually meant in earnest. Then, as he began to phrase his reply, he had to pause to ratchet down his intelligence a few levels so that the drooling simpleton who had uttered such idiocy would be able to comprehend it. This created a pause which had to be filled by “Um.”

Only that’s not what happened at all. If you’re having an actual conversation with someone, sure, you might say “um.” But if you’re typing out a post, what the hell are you doing? Are your fingers operating independently of your brain? No! You’re just being an asshole!

Maybe I could deal with this if it only happened when genuinely brilliant people wrote messages to real morons. After all, geniuses aren’t supposed to have social skills. But it happens all the time. This is the exchange that finally sent me over the edge:

#1: Happily seen that Gentoo has released 2004.2. I’m now using 2004.0 and I wonder whether it is necessary for me to migrate to 2004.2 from 2004.0.

#2: Uh.. if you do an “emerge -uD world” then you too will have all the bonus’s of 2004.2…

#3: Really? I think simply doing this won’t change my /etc/make.profile. It’ll be still point to ../usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-2004.0, isn’t it?

#4: Um, its a symlink… change it to point to the new profile

No! No! Not “Um!” The first guy was right, goddamn it! You can’t “um” him when he’s right! What is this um doing? It’s a totally unjustified um!

This is a cancer of the internet, I tell you, and it’s got to be stopped. Please. I can’t take much more.

(P.S. If anyone writes me an e-mail like “Um… Word can run on Linux if you use an emulator,” I’m going to name a really bad character after them.)

(direct link: http://www.maxbarry.com/2004/08/05/news.html#um )
Unfree People
20-08-2004, 02:33
I've caught myself doing that several times since he posted this rant.

Um... shut up.
Spoffin
20-08-2004, 02:37
I've caught myself doing that several times since he posted this rant.

Um... shut up.
It is a rather brutal way of implying that someone is stupid.
Myrth
20-08-2004, 02:41
It is a rather brutal way of implying that someone is stupid.

Um... not really.
Nianacio
20-08-2004, 02:56
This is meant to convey the impression that the initial post was so mind-numbingly stupid that at first he couldn’t believe it was actually meant in earnest.That's not how I use "um"...:\ I'm not sure exactly how I use it...Maybe it's filler material while I put together a response in my head...
*Almost started this post with "um"*
BLARGistania
20-08-2004, 02:58
ummm. . .

*glares*
There! See! You made me lapse into total stupidity.
Nyborg
20-08-2004, 03:05
Um... no..*sarcastic tone*

The Um... thing is used for dramatic effect to convey either complete disbelief in the wrongness of another person, or to indicate that the person does not really wish to say what they are indeed about to say, yet feels compelled.
New Fubaria
20-08-2004, 03:09
Maybe if we replace Um... with Erm... :p [j/k]
Ribald Dancers
20-08-2004, 03:11
Some people do it because they either intentionally or subconsciously want to speak colloquially when they write in an informal setting. I like a little loosening of the language in that context, hence my occasional use of the terms "gotta", "wanna" and "sheep buggerer".
Others do it in an attempt to make the person they are responding to sound like asshats.

But, whatever. You don't know me!

I blame Jerry Springer
Incertonia
20-08-2004, 03:14
It is a rather brutal way of implying that someone is stupid.
That's exactly how I use it, since "duh!" with a little attached headshake and eye roll went out around 1983 and it doesn't really translate well into forumspeak anyway.
Unfree People
20-08-2004, 03:40
It is a rather brutal way of implying that someone is stupid.
I wasn't telling you to shut up. Just laughing at the article some more.
EvilGnomes
20-08-2004, 03:50
When not being marked I write as I speak. including Ums.
Joe Gas
20-08-2004, 04:35
Um... ya, what he said
Frisbeeteria
20-08-2004, 05:01
Maybe if we replace Um... with Erm... :p [j/k]
Ah. Yes. That would do it.
Jokobee
20-08-2004, 05:20
I prefer "Uh..." instead of "Um...".

Uh.... wha?
Lenbonia
20-08-2004, 05:36
This is extremely trivial. File it under pet peeve, not legitimate grievance.