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Jesus vs. Buddah a hotdog eating competition

Nyborg
19-08-2004, 10:51
If Buddah and Christ were to challenge each other to a hotdog eating contest, who would win?
Camewot
19-08-2004, 10:52
Buddah, cause he has had the best training.
Praetonia
19-08-2004, 10:52
Christ, because Buddha wouldnt eat them.
Nyborg
19-08-2004, 10:57
Well some things to consider, Jesus was a Jew, so they would have to be Kosher hotdogs. For that matter, I'm not so sure Buddah even ate meat. Jesus could perform miracles, but Buddah was a genius.
Arcadian Mists
19-08-2004, 11:19
I voted for a tie. I pictured both of them sitting down, realizing the whole thing was silly, shake hands, declare the competion a tie, and get some beers. After Christ gets wasted on two pints (Jesus was pretty thin, the lightweight), Budda declares himself the winner.
Dacowookies
19-08-2004, 11:26
i chose buddha coz he's a fat bastard :)
Nyborg
19-08-2004, 11:58
Man.. it's a dead heat!! Jesus is going for the ketchup, while Budda seems to enjoy mustard. Hmm.. rumors are flying wildly amoung the two camps. The Buddhists are claiming that Jesus turned Buddah's water into wine, in an apparent attempt to get the fat man drunk. A spokesperson for Jesus named Mathew, categorically denies the allegations.
Zarozina
19-08-2004, 12:24
*spams*
Keruvalia
19-08-2004, 12:28
Meh .... Buddha was a Vegan and Jesus would demand Kosher, so neither of them would eat any. Tie.
Haughtainia
19-08-2004, 12:44
Jesus would win if the hot dogs were prepaired the jewish way (kosher or something 4 thingyed hooves) but not by a big margin if Budda was a vegitarian he wouldent eat any hot dogs while jesus would only eat, one or two because glutany is one of the seven sins. If there were vegietarian hot dogs on Buddas table then Budda would kick ass!
Abdeus
19-08-2004, 15:48
you say that jesus would win with the powers granted to him as the son of god, but buddha (correct spelling MFers) would win because he was an incarnation of a god (Vishnu). His name was siddartha by the way, buddha is merely a term.

I think that Sid would reach nirvana, have a state of profound elation, and then cum all over the hot dogs, turning it into a big game of 'ookie cookie.'
Joey P
19-08-2004, 15:50
Ever see a hot dog eating contest? Skinny japanese people _Always_ beat the fat american guys. It has something to do with the fat preventing the stomach from expanding properly. Jesus wins hands down.
Happy Lawn Gnomes
19-08-2004, 18:22
Would soy or tofu hotdogs work? They would be non meat.... would they also be kosher?
Conceptualists
19-08-2004, 18:37
Well some things to consider, Jesus was a Jew, so they would have to be Kosher hotdogs. For that matter, I'm not so sure Buddah even ate meat. Jesus could perform miracles, but Buddah was a genius.
All Buddhists are vegetarians, but some like to compliment their vegatables with meat. ;)
Daistallia 2104
19-08-2004, 18:38
Those who say Jesus wouldn't eat them due to hot dogs not being kosher, must never have heard of all beef hot dogs.
Those who suggested tofu simply don't grok the zen of a hot dog. Tofu dogs are not hot dogs!

I voted Juesus, knowing that Siddhartha Gautama wouldn't have competed in a meat eating contest.

And to beat out the inevitable:
What did the Zen monk say to the hot dog vendor?
"Make me one with everything."
So the hot dog vendor did. The monk handed the vendor a $5 bill, which he pocketed.
The monk asked "Where is my change?"
To which the vendor replied "Change must come from within."

:P
Insane Troll
19-08-2004, 18:39
They'd probably start handing the hot dogs out to starving children or something equally lame.
Arenestho
19-08-2004, 18:46
Buddha teaches self-discipline and eating only what one need's. Jesus does to, but he didn't hold true to his teachings. Thus Jesus would win.

Luke 5:33-34
33 And they said unto him, Why do the disciples of John fast often, and make prayers, and likewise the disciples of the Pharisees; but thine eat and drink?
34 And he said unto them, Can ye make the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them?
35 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.
Daistallia 2104
19-08-2004, 18:48
All Buddhists are vegetarians, but some like to compliment their vegatables with meat. ;)


Nope. Killing for food is forbidden, but eating flesh you have not intentionally killed is not.

I am Buddhist and still eat meat. I have seen my my teacher, Achariya Doug Duncan Sensei (http://www.dharmawpg.com/essayew.htm) eat meat on several occassions. Meat has even been served at a meditation retreat I attended.
From the Access to Insight FAQ (http://www.accesstoinsight.org/bfaq.html#veggie):
Are Buddhists vegetarian?
Some are, some aren't. I know of no evidence in the Pali Canon to suggest that the Buddha discouraged his lay followers from eating meat. Although some people may point to the first of the five precepts as evidence that the Buddha asked his followers to be vegetarian, this precept only concerns the intentional act of depriving a living being of life, and says nothing about consuming the flesh of an animal that is already dead. Many Buddhists (and, of course, non-Buddhists) do eventually lose their appetite for meat out of compassion for other living creatures, but from the strict Theravada Buddhist perspective, the choice of whether or not to eat meat is purely a matter of personal preference.

Theravada monks are forbidden to eat certain kinds of meat,[1] but because their food is provided by the generosity of lay supporters,[2] who may or may not themselves be vegetarian,[3] they are not required to practice strict vegetarianism. Nor are Theravada monks required to eat everything that is placed in their alms-bowl; a monk intent on pursuing vegetarianism may therefore simply ignore the meat in his bowl. In parts of Asia where vegetarianism is unheard of, however, vegetarian monks face a clear choice: eat meat or starve.

Taking part in killing for food (hunting, fishing, trapping, butchering, etc.) is definitely incompatible with the first precept, and should be avoided.

But what if I eat -- or just purchase -- meat: aren't I simply encouraging someone else to do the killing for me? How can letting someone else do the "dirty work" possibly be consistent with the Buddhist principle of non-harming, that cornerstone of Right Resolve? This is tricky. Although the suttas are silent on this question, I personally believe it would be wrong to order someone, "Please kill that chicken for me," since it incites that person to break the first precept.[4] Surely this is unskillful kamma. (Consider this whenever you're tempted to order, say, a fresh-killed lobster at a restaurant; by placing your order you are, in fact, ordering its death.) But purchasing a piece of dead animal meat is another matter. Although my purchase may indeed help keep the butcher or restaurateur in business, I am not asking him to kill on my behalf. Whether he kills another cow tomorrow is his choice, not mine. This is a difficult but important point, one that reveals the fundamental distinction between personal choices (choices aimed at altering my own behavior) and political ones (those aimed at altering others' behavior). Each of us must discover for ourselves where lies the boundary between the two. It is crucial to remember that the Buddha's teachings are, first and foremost, tools to help us learn to make good personal choices (kamma); they are not prescriptions for political action.

We could not survive long in this world without bringing harm of one sort or another to other creatures. No matter how carefully we trod, countless insects, mites, and other creatures inadvertently perish under our feet with every step. Where, then, do we even begin to draw the line between "acceptable" and "unacceptable" harm? The Buddha's answer was very clear and very practical: the five precepts. He didn't ask his followers to become vegetarian; he simply asked us to observe the precepts. For many of us, this is challenge enough. This is where we begin.

Notes:

1. Theravada monks are forbidden to eat the flesh of humans, elephants, horses, dogs, snakes, lions, tigers, leopards, bears, hyenas, and panthers. A monk is also forbidden to eat raw fish or meat, or any fish or meat that he sees, hears, or suspects was killed specifically for him (see the description of "staple foods" in The Buddhist Monastic Code). A monk who eats any of those kinds of meat commits an offense that he must then confess to his fellow monks. These rules do not imply that a monk must not eat meat -- only that a monk must be careful as to which kinds of meat he does eat. [Go back]

2. See "The Economy of Gifts" by Thanissaro Bhikkhu. [Go back]

3. Monastics within some schools of Mahayana Buddhism do practice vegetarianism. See The Buddhist Religion: A Historical Introduction (fourth edition) by R.H. Robinson & W.L. Johnson (Belmont, California: Wadsworth, 1997), pp. 213-14. [Go back]

4. This is in keeping with the monks' rule about not eating meat that he sees, hears, or suspects was killed specifically for him. See The Buddhist Monastic Code [Go back]
Conceptualists
19-08-2004, 18:52
Nope. Killing for food is forbidden, but eating flesh you have not intentionally killed is not.

I am Buddhist and still eat meat. I have seen my my teacher, Achariya Doug Duncan Sensei (http://www.dharmawpg.com/essayew.htm) eat meat on several occassions. Meat has even been served at a meditation retreat I attended.
From the Access to Insight FAQ (http://www.accesstoinsight.org/bfaq.html#veggie):
It was an annecdote that is in one of my books on Buddhism (Unfortunately I cannot remember which one) about a student asking his teacher if it forbidden to eat meat.

I didn't double check it, because I didn't feel like trawling through my books for one anecdote.
Daistallia 2104
19-08-2004, 19:06
It was an annecdote that is in one of my books on Buddhism (Unfortunately I cannot remember which one) about a student asking his teacher if it forbidden to eat meat.

I didn't double check it, because I didn't feel like trawling through my books for one anecdote.

No problem. It is a sticky question, but you were correct in a way. Eatting meat is discouraged to some degree. There is also debate about meat served in a restuarant has been killed specifically for you or not. Also, remember that, just as with any religion there is dissention, question as to the exact details, and there are those who follow the rules more strictly than others. :D
Demented Hamsters
19-08-2004, 19:31
What's wrong with vegetarian hotdogs (I mean apart the fact fact they taste like cardboard and make you fart). Anyway, if Budda ate vege bangers and Jesus ate kosher bangers, who would win? Hmmm.
I'd go for Buddha, cause he's obviously put in the training.
Yet... You could never count Jesus out. He could turn them all into cocktail weinies with a wave of his hand - is that illegal?

On another note, who would win in a wrestling match between Jesus, Buddha, Allah and Oh, I don't know the Hindi Guy with 12 arms?
They way I see it - Jesus could never be taken down - he's down..no! He's back up again, he just keeps returning!
Allah...well no-one's ever seen him, so he'd be hard to pin.
Budha would be like that really fat guy who used to wrestle (Earthquake I think his name was). Hard to get down, but if you did you could pin him cause he couldn't get up again.
The Hindi guy would probably win cause he could pin all three at once.
What do others think?
Conceptualists
19-08-2004, 19:47
On another note, who would win in a wrestling match between Jesus, Buddha, Allah and Oh, I don't know the Hindi Guy with 12 arms?
Vishnu?

I reckon he'd win too.

But what is Allah secret trick :confused: :eek:
Zaikuu
19-08-2004, 19:54
All Buddhists are vegetarians, but some like to compliment their vegatables with meat. ;)

*Falls over laughing*
Maerialto
19-08-2004, 20:26
i chose buddha coz he's a fat bastard :)

I bet you it's glandular/genetic. I think Buddha would be above such temptations.

I say Jesus, because I think a) Buddha would find the idea of a hot dog eating contest absurd and b) from what I've read, he was probably a vegetarian. But I think Jesus would be pretty embarrassed to participate in such a contest and spend the next week repenting.

Now, Moses, there was a guy who loved his kosher hot dogs. Don't ask me why I think that.
Conceptualists
19-08-2004, 20:28
Now, Moses, there was a guy who loved his kosher hot dogs. Don't ask me why I think that.
Burning bush my arse, it was a bbq and he didn't want people to think he did nothing
Chettria
19-08-2004, 20:29
two things,

buddha apparantly enjoyed some type of food all depictions of him are as a jolly chubby guy sorta like santa but asian/indian

Christ spent forty days w/o food or drink and still had enough strength to put a holy smack down on satan when he came to tempt Christ.

so i vote for the guy with more practice eating,

to the one who said Jesus didn't follow what he preached, Jesus never said eating and drinking were evil, in fact he elevates them to part of a sacrament. What he says is don't miss the forest of God's providence just cuz you like the fruit on one particular tree ;-)
Davistania
19-08-2004, 20:32
I'd vote for John Kerry because he WON THREE PURPLE HEARTS.
Onion Pirates
19-08-2004, 20:33
Our local Vietnamese restaurant offers "Happy Buddha" specials, including "vegetarian beef" and "vegetarian pork". They taste like good old cooked animal to me, which is ok.

I think Buddha and Jesus are a lot alike. Buddha experimented with the extreme self-denial of the ascetic Jains in India but rejected it for a "Middle Way" which allows ample room for eating and even feasting, but not for greed and overindulgence. Compassion is a primary virtue which would also prevent hogging all the foog for yourself (as Americans love to do; just look at our obnoxious food ads). You do not find too many statues of a skinny Buddha, right? His girth is a sign of blessedness.

Jesus said that "the Son of Man [Jesus himself] came eating and drinking and you call him a drunkard and a gluttion." So he had no qualms about a good meal. He made a lot of wine for the wedding at Cana. He fed 5,000 people once, and 2,000 another time. After the resurrection, he ate fried fish with his apostles on the shore of the Sea of galilee. He was also att that time revealed to some disciples on the road to Emmaus: "he was made known to them in the breaking of the bread"; in his characteristic gesture of breaking bread and passing it, which he did when feeding the 5,000 and at the Last Supper, he became revealed to these followers. It must have been something they closely associated with him: sharing.

Jesus wanted people not to worry about material things, and said God would provide sufficient food and clothing. His disciples gathered grain for food on the Sabbath and were sharply criticized for it. He hated greed, and in his parable about the Rich Fool implies that when a person has enough and then some, it's time to share.

So I picture each of them having a good time, trying different brands, condiments, enjoying every bite untilthey were actually full, not starving themselves but not gorging either. Then if there were leftovers they would be shared with whoever was hungry.
Conceptualists
19-08-2004, 20:36
Buddha apparantly enjoyed some type of food all depictions of him are as a jolly chubby guy sorta like santa but asian/indian

Iirc, it wasn't Siddhartha Gautama that was fat but another called Ma-tsu. But I have a feeling that you should ask a real Buddhist that.
Anthil
19-08-2004, 20:45
Christ, because Buddha wouldnt eat them.

The day he died the historical Buddha is reported to have eaten "the best piece of the pig". Vegetarianism came later (and no, there was no causal relationship with his demise).
Frisbeeteria
19-08-2004, 21:31
All Buddhists are vegetarians, but some like to compliment their vegatables with meat. ;)Nope. Killing for food is forbidden,
Daistallia 2104, methinks you missed his point.

Buddha: "Hello, green beans. You're looking all lovely and bacony today! And you, carrots, appear to be having a particularly pot-roasty sort of morning. Congratulations to you all. May you stew merrily!"
Nyborg
20-08-2004, 03:00
Well.. it looks like the son of God is winning, but I still think the margins are too close to call.
Illumini
20-08-2004, 03:02
HA Eris goddess of Chaos and Discord would beat them both, and then some.
Nyborg
20-08-2004, 10:06
..and Buddah is taking a stong lead. I think it's a bit too early to say though.. Jesus might just be pacing himself.
BackwoodsSquatches
20-08-2004, 10:18
"Well Ken, this reporter says that Buddah is the man to beat, afterall, Jesus may be the Son of God and all, BUT LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT FAT BASTARD!

Hes gonna become one with those hotdogs, alright!"

Back to you, Ken...
Nyborg
20-08-2004, 15:52
This message brought to you by Hebrew National brand hotdogs.

WWJE?
-What would Jesus eat?

Why Hebrew National of course!!