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I mean if you saw a person walking down the street, could you determine if he was Jewish or not? Im trying to figure out why some people hate Jews so much, and how different they actually are from Christians or other religions/races.

I mean if you saw a person walking down the street, could you determine if he was Jewish or not? Im trying to figure out why some people hate Jews so much, and how different they actually are from Christians or other religions/races.
Of course. They all have hook winged noses and a little hump back. Plus beady eyes, and claw like fingers.

I mean if you saw a person walking down the street, could you determine if he was Jewish or not? Im trying to figure out why some people hate Jews so much, and how different they actually are from Christians or other religions/races.

Well, technically, the Jewish people are indeed a race - decendants of Abraham. Correct me if I'm wrong on that part. So, if they had enough distiquishing features from their Jewish heritage, they could be identified as Jewish by sight. I, however, do fail to see why this matters to anyone, with reference to either race or religion.

Of course. They all have hook winged noses and a little hump back. Plus beady eyes, and claw like fingers.

I'M JEWISH!?!?!?!?

I mean if you saw a person walking down the street, could you determine if he was Jewish or not? Im trying to figure out why some people hate Jews so much, and how different they actually are from Christians or other religions/races.

Dark curly hair, long hooked nose...
http://www.kingidentity.com/snake1.jpg

I've heard that their pockets will be stuffed with money and they'll be sucking the blood out of a human infant that they killed with their evil super-powers.

But I don't know. All white people look the same to me, Jews included. Some people say my Grandpa looks Jewish, but he's actually Japanese.

I can never tell. Always in the flims and sitcoms, people just know, but its completely oblique to me. I don't get any of the Jewish referances actually (what's the deal with jewish doctors??). I think it must be more of an american thing.

Dark curly hair, long hooked nose...
http://www.kingidentity.com/snake1.jpg
Yep, that looks like most Jew's I know. Keep a look out for them and keep fighting the stupid fight TT.

well if they're a banker...

Ah...if ever there was a reason to think that the Far Right are absolute halfwits with IQs barely above that or a gecko, TT is it.

Congratulations to you.

I'M JEWISH!?!?!?!?
Apparently you are.

Family Guy "Wish Upon on a Weinstein"

*Peter chases down Weinstein and finally catches him*
Weinstein: OK, fine what do you want?
Peter: I need some one good with money.
Weinstein: How did you know I was an accountant?
Peter: HELLLOOO, Wein-stein.

Dark curly hair, long hooked nose...
http://www.kingidentity.com/snake1.jpg

HOLY SHIT, Jews are SNAKE PEOPLE?!

I guess I've NEVER seen one in that case!

I'M JEWISH!?!?!?!?
Im sorry. You are really unlucky to be Jewish and on these forums. Dont expect much respect from Nazis, just try to ignore them. Good luck.

Well, technically, the Jewish people are indeed a race - decendants of Abraham. Correct me if I'm wrong on that part. So, if they had enough distiquishing features from their Jewish heritage, they could be identified as Jewish by sight.

Except that anyone can convert to Judaism, so anyone on the street could potentially be a Jew.

Furthermore, people who have been Jews for hundreds/thousands of years don't necessarily all look alike- or don't share the stereotypical "curly hair, big nose" features.

Observe:

-American Black Jews http://members.aol.com/Blackjews/matthew2.jpg

- African "Lemba" Jews http://www.mindspring.com/~jaypsand/lemba3.jpg

- Chinese Jews http://www.ojm.org/past/kaifeng/kaifeng.jpg

- Indian Jews http://www.tjff.com/1996/images/bene.jpg

Then there are Middle Eastern, Sephardic (North African/Spanish), and Ashkenazic (Eastern Europe) Jews.

Compare these two Israeli members of Parliament. One is from Denmark, one is from Iraq.

http://www.knesset.gov.il/mk/images/members/melchior_mi.jpg

http://www.knesset.gov.il/mk/images/members/beneliezer_binyamin.jpg

Or these children. One group is of Persian Jewish descent, the other Eastern European:

http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Stu/dyousefz/newyear/images/newyear%20034.jpg

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/young/images/y64-3b44950r.jpg


Furthermore, even Jews from the same area don't necessarily look alike. Compare David Ben Gurion (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/images/bgurion.jpg) with Shimon Peres(http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/images/peres.jpg), both from Eastern Europe.

Except that anyone can convert to Judaism, so anyone on the street could potentially be a Jew.

Furthermore, people who have been Jews for hundreds/thousands of years don't necessarily all look alike- or don't share the stereotypical "curly hair, big nose" features.

Observe:

-American Black Jews http://members.aol.com/Blackjews/matthew2.jpg

- African "Lemba" Jews http://www.mindspring.com/~jaypsand/lemba3.jpg

- Chinese Jews http://www.ojm.org/past/kaifeng/kaifeng.jpg

- Indian Jews http://www.tjff.com/1996/images/bene.jpg

Then there are Middle Eastern, Sephardic (North African/Spanish), and Ashkenazic (Eastern Europe) Jews.

Compare these two Israeli members of Parliament. One is from Denmark, one is from Iraq.

http://www.knesset.gov.il/mk/images/members/melchior_mi.jpg

http://www.knesset.gov.il/mk/images/members/beneliezer_binyamin.jpg

Furthermore, even Jews from the same area don't necessarily look alike. Compare David Ben Gurion (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/images/bgurion.jpg) with Shimon Peres(http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/images/peres.jpg), both from Eastern Europe.
Yeah, I guess that makes it hard to charecterize JEws as hook nosed and all that shit.

I mean if you saw a person walking down the street, could you determine if he was Jewish or not?


Well Tenete Traditiones seems to think he can determine who is and who isn't a Jew, just by being on the internet!!!



Then we'll know where to find you!!


So you are a Jew!


<sarcasm>This will save me SO much time on my genealogy!<sarcasm>

You can recognize hasidic jews because of their strict code on facial hair. But seriously, whats with all this jew talk? Did someone wake up today and say I need to post about Jews for some reason...


Lets talk about fun stuff like kittens playing with yarn, dressing your dog up as a celebrity, or calling in fake traffic accidents to get to work quicker!

Well, technically, the Jewish people are indeed a race - decendants of Abraham. Correct me if I'm wrong on that part. So, if they had enough distiquishing features from their Jewish heritage, they could be identified as Jewish by sight. I, however, do fail to see why this matters to anyone, with reference to either race or religion.


Technically, you can't make racial distinctions between humans. We are all considered the same race. Two people of the same ethnicity can have greater differences in their genetical material than a black person and a white person.

I think I could be able to recognize an orthodox jew if he was walking down the street. Those funny curls...

Furthermore, even Jews from the same area don't necessarily look alike. Compare David Ben Gurion (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/images/bgurion.jpg) with Shimon Peres(http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/images/peres.jpg), both from Eastern Europe.
Actually, I think those two look startling similar, but that doesn't take anything away from your point.

You can recognize hasidic jews because of their strict code on facial hair. But seriously, whats with all this jew talk? Did someone wake up today and say I need to post about Jews for some reason...


Lets talk about fun stuff like kittens playing with yarn, dressing your dog up as a celebrity, or calling in fake traffic accidents to get to work quicker!
Your new to this forum, it seems. No sweat though, it is better to discuss more lighthearted topics, but sometimes we must be serious.

You can recognize hasidic jews because of their strict code on facial hair. But seriously, whats with all this jew talk? Did someone wake up today and say I need to post about Jews for some reason...


Lets talk about fun stuff like kittens playing with yarn, dressing your dog up as a celebrity, or calling in fake traffic accidents to get to work quicker!
http://www.lolpictures.com/pictures/kittyyarn.jpg

http://www.cybersalt.org/cleanlaugh/images/cats/catpick.jpg

http://www.control.auc.dk/~jhve02/Traffic_Jam.jpg
(you'd be on the left in that last one)

Well, technically, the Jewish people are indeed a race - decendants of Abraham. Correct me if I'm wrong on that part. So, if they had enough distiquishing features from their Jewish heritage, they could be identified as Jewish by sight. I, however, do fail to see why this matters to anyone, with reference to either race or religion.

If you think like that, then so is every Muslim. Although the Hebrews started out as a race, their brand of monotheism has certainly become a religion. In fact, before the destruction of the Second Temple by the Romans in 70, the Hebrews practiced a much differnt religion, based on the same principles but with different customs. Many Orthodox Jews belive they will return to this "Temple" sort of worship when the Messiah comes and the Third Temple is built.

Jews are really only the decendants of the people who formed the kingdom of Judah, and that was only made up of two tribes. Also, many people have converted and thousands of years have passed, so the only "Jewish looking" people are those of mainly Eastern European decent. And people seem to forget entirerly about the Sifards.

Almost impossible. There are black, white, and even asian jews.

I have found that the only way to be able to discern jews from gentiles (non-jews) is if you are a jew yourself. Granted it is possible for a goyim (non-jew) to tell a jew if it's obvious, but jews are able to tell other jews (sometimes we get confused with polish and german people though, sort of throws off our jewdar). I've also noticed that blacks have the same ability. (Judy Gold, paraphrasing and ad-libing)

Of course. They all have hook winged noses and a little hump back. Plus beady eyes, and claw like fingers.

Yoda was a Jew?

You can recognize hasidic jews because of their strict code on facial hair.

Not really. Plenty of non-Hasidic Jews have long or untrimmed beards (I did for the last four months).

A better indicator is their clothing- Hasidic Jews, particularly men, are prone to wearing black clothes and black hats. In Israel, they are actually CALLED "black hats" (in street slang). Also, sidecurls (or "peyot"- not to be confused with peyote) are generally pretty specific to Hasidism, or at least the more conservative members of the Orthodox spectrum.

Woot!!! I'm related to a Jedi!!! Really though, this whole obsession with Jews is sickening. I'm not bashing Jews cause I am one. Technically though not in practice. Well sort of in practice but not much. But really, why does everyone friggin care? Read my post about the Arab/Israeli Conflict a little ways down the line. A bit long but it points out how stupid that argument is. To Nazis, there's nothing much we can do to get you all off the topic... To everyone else, wtf? Jewish is a religion, not a race. It's like saying Christian is a race. I suppose you could say someone is related to Abraham back along the line and is therefore of the Jewish race but that's flawed too. There were no categories of race back then. In a sense, they were all what you would call Arab. The hooked nose, etc was developed by Eastern Europeans from certain areas. Not because of their religion but because of how their bodies adapted to deal with the climate. That's all that "race" is. It's how a body deals with climate. Africans have dark skin to protect against the sun and many have flaring nostrils because of something with heat and needing to filter it while breathing. Something like that. People up north have fair skin and blonde hair because of the cold weather and cloud cover. It goes on and on because of climate. People don't look a certain way because of religion, it's because of climate.

I mean if you saw a person walking down the street, could you determine if he was Jewish or not? Im trying to figure out why some people hate Jews so much, and how different they actually are from Christians or other religions/races.

this might sound stupid, but i seen more of a difference in the US than in europe. Here I know alot of jews who are spanish/morrocan/english decent.
In the US they seemed to be mostly isrealites or semites. (as in white but not really caucasian).

let's not forget american TV!
all the jewish men are dark hair, olive skin brown eyes. ALWAYS!!! talking about creating a racial stereotype.

Yoda was a Jew?

reformed though

The hooked nose, etc was developed by Eastern Europeans from certain areas. Not because of their religion but because of how their bodies adapted to deal with the climate.
I'm sorry, but I can't let this pass.

What sort of climate causes hooked noses?

On topic, though, I couldn't tell because I have no way of being sure whether the people I meet are Jewish or not. So, if I think someone looks like a Jew or doesn't, how can I be sure? I'm not gonna go up and ask. Russians, though, they are a sure bet. Can't miss one. (I hope everybody picked up my joke, because I don't like pointing them out, but I'm just doing it. I wan't to leave in the part about Russians, but... Quite a conundrum there.)

Yoda was a Jew?
Yoda was NOT a Jew. Jedi is a religion. Watch the movies or ask the Australians. Man, those Australians crack me up.

Of course. They all have hook winged noses and a little hump back. Plus beady eyes, and claw like fingers.

Idiot - I know TONS of Jews who look NOTHING like your stereotype. . . however, there is ths one ultra-Orthodox Jew at my school who looks sorta like that

Im trying to figure out why some people hate Jews so much, and how different they actually are from Christians or other religions/races.

As for why some people hate Jews so much -- the song "You've Got To Be Carefully Taught" springs to mind....

As for "how different" -- it depends. As with all religions, you have those who are strict adherants, and those who are more liberal adherants. Those who are very, very Orthodox will obey Biblical dictates about what to wear, even, so in that respect you could tell someone on sight (i.e., if someone is dressed in the manner typical to the Hasidic sect, it'd be a fair bet that either he was a Hasidic Jew, or that he's going to a costume party). But the more casual observer? No way to know for certain.

Idiot
Moron.

Yoda was a Jew?
Before he became a cultist.

Yoda was NOT a Jew. Jedi is a religion. Watch the movies or ask the Australians. Man, those Australians crack me up.

It is a real religion! We have to fight evil people with light sabers ... :)

PS - Not Jewish ...

Sure, can't you see the horns and the tail?
Come on, you can't miss them!

...
No. One can't recognize a Jew, because as someone already said anyone can convert to Judaism, and original Jews mixed so well with other races they're impossible to indicate.

They look like anyone else around you... [evil laughter] be afraid... be VERY afraid... :D

Yoda was NOT a Jew. Jedi is a religion. Watch the movies or ask the Australians. Man, those Australians crack me up.

It was a joke dude, from the physical desciption our jackbooted friend gave...*sigh*...never mind. Humour never translates well into text...;)

I mean if you saw a person walking down the street, could you determine if he was Jewish or not? Im trying to figure out why some people hate Jews so much, and how different they actually are from Christians or other religions/races.
Some people think that they can.

But I have been asked many times if I am Jewish when I'm not, so I think they make it up.

Some people think that they can.

But I have been asked many times if I am Jewish when I'm not, so I think they make it up.

A mate of mine has similar experiences. He claims he's Jewish. :)

A mate of mine has similar experiences. He claims he's Jewish. :)
lol, I'll have to remember that.

You can recognize hasidic jews because of their strict code on facial hair. But seriously, whats with all this jew talk? Did someone wake up today and say I need to post about Jews for some reason...

I agree with you. They are really the only ones who are distinctive in their appearance, much like Muslims who follow traditional dress code.

Of course. They all have hook winged noses and a little hump back. Plus beady eyes, and claw like fingers.

I don't, and i'm jewish. bitch.

a nurse at my dad's hospital thought he was jewish for years that is until she saw him tucking into a bacon sandwich one morning however he does have a jewish background and our sirnames jacobs which probibly doesn't help

I can immediately tell a black guy walking down the street is black, if that's any help.

I mean if you saw a person walking down the street, could you determine if he was Jewish or not? Im trying to figure out why some people hate Jews so much, and how different they actually are from Christians or other religions/races.

He has a big neon sign with 'Jew' floating over his head but it's only visible to non Jews.

It's not a matter of what they look like, it's a matter of what they traditionally were. In Western countries Jews were always the moneylenders and as such were often hated. They also tended to form enclosed communities that in Mediaeval Europe were very much incestuous. As it was, the Jewish communities caused resentment from the 'native' population by always remaining seperate and a Jew my father knows even admitted that many Jews now have curly hair and poor eyesight because of the ancestral inbreeding. How true this is depends on the community observed and at times is very much not the case. Hatred against Jews has always been because many were different and took pride in never conforming to the ideals of the country they lived in. The same can be seen now with the anti-Islamic feeling and the Hindu/Muslim white/Muslim and to a lesser extent white/Hindu tensions in parts of London.

A point I've heard before anonymously because you can never say it is that many Jewish enclosed communities survived the pre Nazi depression fairly well off and so the starving Germanic neighbours came to hate the Jewish community and looked for revenge. True the better off Jews should have been more charitable and as such brought revenge apon themselves, but they did not deserve the horror of the Holocaust.

I mean if you saw a person walking down the street, could you determine if he was Jewish or not? Im trying to figure out why some people hate Jews so much, and how different they actually are from Christians or other religions/races.


I would say for me I usually can, but I have a very keen eye and I've studied racial anthropology more than the average American who doesn't study anything unless it's fed to him in public school.


It's hard, but you can usually tell.

Now obviously if he was born not of the Jewish race, but converted to the Jewish religion, he doesn't develop the racial features of the jews.


But you can often spot a racial jew if you know what you're looking for.

Jews are both a race and a religion.

The jewish people are the race, and judaism is their religion.

Orthodox only accept you as a real jew if you're a racial jew (Mother has to be jewish)

But you can often spot a racial jew if you know what you're looking for.

And what are you looking for?

And what are you looking for?
Haven't you brushed up on your Nazi teachings recently? :rolleyes: (yes, I'm being sarcastic)

Haven't you brushed up on your Nazi teachings recently? :rolleyes: (yes, I'm being sarcastic)
Don't worry. After frequently being misunderstood over my use of sarcasm, I think that I have come to recognise it quite well.

Don't worry. After frequently being misunderstood over my use of sarcasm, I think that I have come to recognise it quite well.
:D that's good. I just wanted to make sure others knew as well...

:D that's good. I just wanted to make sure others knew as well...
Always a good idea. I remeber on the "Would you rather be a straight peadophile or a homosexual attracted to adults," I wrote 'straight, because homosexuals go to hell.'

I suppose the frightening thing is that people believed I was serious.

Anyone seen the "Ali G Show", where Borat asks a self-defense instructor on how to 'Defend himself from "Jewish claws"'? Man, that was high-larious

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/pwrhouseguitar/IMG_0935.jpg

Thats me 1 1/2 years old. I am Jewish.

I definitley look curly haired and hooked nosed don't I?

bitch.
Slut.

And what are you looking for?



Ratios of the facial features, you either know it or you don't know it... But when you see them (the ratios) you'll know it, if you are know it person. If you're a don't know it, then you won't know it. Make sense?

Ratios of the facial features, you either know it or you don't know it... But when you see them (the ratios) you'll know it, if you are know it person. If you're a don't know it, then you won't know it. Make sense?
What about people who look Jewish, but aren't?

Ratios of the facial features, you either know it or you don't know it... But when you see them (the ratios) you'll know it, if you are know it person. If you're a don't know it, then you won't know it. Make sense?

translation:
"I spouted off complete bullshit, and got called on it, and so will fall back on senseless doubletalk in the hopes that people will buy it and not realize what a complete ass I am"

lol, nice try headshaver (not really pretty lame attempt actually).

try coming up with something substantial, other than my Nazi approved glasses let me pick them out lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/pwrhouseguitar/IMG_0935.jpg

Thats me 1 1/2 years old. I am Jewish.

I definitley look curly haired and hooked nosed don't I?
ahhhh you look so cute

I'm a Jewish guy, im 16.
People never think i look Jewish .. i would put up a picture but meh.
I can only tell if people ae Jewish if they are orthadox, which makes it pretty obvious.

translation:
"I spouted off complete bullshit, and got called on it, and so will fall back on senseless doubletalk in the hopes that people will buy it and not realize what a complete ass I am"

lol, nice try headshaver (not really pretty lame attempt actually).

try coming up with something substantial, other than my Nazi approved glasses let me pick them out lol

What he's said is no different from the idea of black people having different shaped skulls to white people.

It's sometimes true, it's sometimes not.

translation:
"I spouted off complete bullshit, and got called on it, and so will fall back on senseless doubletalk in the hopes that people will buy it and not realize what a complete ass I am"

lol, nice try headshaver (not really pretty lame attempt actually).

try coming up with something substantial, other than my Nazi approved glasses let me pick them out lol



Well, you certainly are the hostile one!

I can generally tell what people's racial backgrounds are because if you study racial anthropology long enough, you'll be able to do so.

Well, you certainly are the hostile one!

I can generally tell what people's racial backgrounds are because if you study racial anthropology long enough, you'll be able to do so.

Bet you can't tell mine.
Best I can do is 'Western Europe'.

Several times per year, I've been asked by Hasidic Jews if I too, am Jewish. My background is Scots Canadian, with a smattering (one-sixteenth) Miq'mac Indian. By the same token, I've been mistaken for an Italian, a Greek, a Lebanese, and vaarious other Mediterranean backgrounds. I've even had an irate Jamaican lay into me for the things 'my people have done'- and when I asked him just who 'my people' are, he said that I was obviously a Jew.

Obvious? Hah! Truth is, you can't assume anything just by looking.

As it was, the Jewish communities caused resentment from the 'native' population by always remaining seperate

That's somewhat accurate, but history shows that more often, it was the other way around- Jews were forced to live in ghettoes which were LOCKED every night, Jews were forbidden from most professions, etc...

and a Jew my father knows even admitted that many Jews now have curly hair and poor eyesight because of the ancestral inbreeding.

That's nothing more than conjecture, really. What was this guy's source?

I have a a book, for instance, about Ultra-orthodox Jews, which includes an excerpt about eyesight:

Lay observers have long noticed a high preponderance of eyeglasses among yeshiva students and alumni and they naturally tended to assume that this was caused by long hours of reading small and/or poor print, often under indifferent lighting. But a medical study recently published in Israel lays much of the blame on shockelling [swaying back and forth during prayer, often while using a prayer book or during religious study]. It maintainst that the incessant change of focus,as the eye approaches and recedes from the text, eventually caused myopia. The study was based on a Jerusalem yeshiva, where 90% of the students were found to wear glasses- compared to only 15% at a nearby non-Orthodox high school.

Since 150 years ago, particularly in Eastern Europe, most Jews were Orthodox and likely engaged in some form of the above, this could explain at least SOME of the eyesight deficiencies.

Furthermore, I'm no geneticist, but I didn't realize curly hair was a sign of inbreeding.

But you can often spot a racial jew if you know what you're looking for.

Care to share your "Jew-watching" secrets with the rest of us?

Jews are both a race and a religion.

Nope. As I've said, the closest thing is a culture, since you can convert in and thus join it.

The jewish people are the race, and judaism is their religion.

Inaccurate. Plenty of Jews by birth don't practice Judaism, and plenty of practicing Jews are converts.

Orthodox only accept you as a real jew if you're a racial jew (Mother has to be jewish)

Wrong. First, there is no such thing as a "racial Jew", and it's certainly not a term used by Jews- Orthodox or otherwise. Don't put words in other people's mouths.

Second, the Orthodox only "accept" people who are Orthodox according to Halakha. That means one born to a Jewish mother, or one who converts according to Halakhic guidelines.

You CAN convert to Orthodox Judaism, and you will be considered as Jewish as anyone else.

The issue is not that Orthodoxy doesn't accept converts; rather, it only accepts converts who have followed "their" rules.

And here are some facts from history, about USSR...
1. Leader of bolshevik revolution - Lenin/Uljanov - mother jewish
2. Foreign comissar Chicherin - mother jewish
3. Comissar of national matters - notorios Stalin/Dzugashvilli - father jewish, surename means shvilli - son, dzuga - jew (from georgian language)
4. Comissar of economics - Rurje/Larins - jewish
5. Comissar of restoration Shlihter - jewish
6. Comissar of government control Lander - jewish
7. Comissar of army and fleet Trotsky/Bronshtein - jewish
8. Commisar of govermental land Kaufman - jewish (he controled 1/6 of the planet )
9. Comissary of social work Shmit - jewish
10. Comissary of civil supply Lilina/Knigisen - jewish
11. Comissary of national enlightment Lunacharsky - jewish
12. Comissary of religion Shpicberg - jewish
13. Comissary of population Zinovjev/Apfelbaum - jewish
14. Comissary of social hygiene Anvelt - jewish
15. Comissary of finances Gukovsky - jewish
16. Comissary of press Kochen/Volodarsky - jewish
17. Comissary of elections Radomislky/Uricky - jewish
18. Comissary of justice Shteinberg - jewish - he controlled the executions
19. Comissary of evacuation Fēnigšteins - jewish

Prove it. Cite your sources.

Furthermore, most Jews would not consider these men as being representative of the Jewish community- they were not doing these things as Jews, but as Communism. Communism, in many cases, replaced their Jewish identity, assuming they had had any such identity in the first place.

Recall that Communism was hostile to both Judaism and Zionism, and plenty of Jews were persecuted under Communism, as well.

The fact that their persecutors MAY have been of Jewish descent should not be construed as evidence that Communism was "Jewish", or any similar nonsense. Obviously they were not following the Jewish religion if they were Communists, and many of them probably didn't consider themselves "Jewish" before they joined, anyway.

A major factor in determining "who is a Jew" is self-identification. These guys didn't identify themselves with Jews, who were persecuted along with many others by their regime. They identified themselves with Communism.

Rabbi Hillel, one of Judaism's greatest sages, said, "Do not separate yourself from the community." People of Jewish descent who do not identify themselves as Jews, or who actively persecute or are hostile to Jews and Judaism, are generally not considered "Jews" by the rest of the community.

Well, you certainly are the hostile one!

I can generally tell what people's racial backgrounds are because if you study racial anthropology long enough, you'll be able to do so.

Hey, good job of still dodging the question. Surely if these "ratio's" exist that can conclusively identify a jew on the street, and you know what they are so well, then surely you can enlighten us with your wisdom and put them out in cold hard writing....
Or is the little headshaver afraid that his "jewish racial ratio's" won't stand up to public scrutiny outside of your little hitlerite friends.

simple word's headshaver "put up or shut up"
or else we all will know that your just blowing Zirkon out your rear.

That's somewhat accurate, but history shows that more often, it was the other way around- Jews were forced to live in ghettoes which were LOCKED every night, Jews were forbidden from most professions, etc...

I'm aware of that as many English cities had 'Jew houses'. However, we're talking about why Jews are hated so locking them up every night isn't a cause of hatred towards them.


That's nothing more than conjecture, really. What was this guy's source?


Dunno, that's why I didn't treat it as factually proven. He does come from a Jewish community although I'm aware that doesn't necessarily make him any more qualified.

I'm aware of that as many English cities had 'Jew houses'. However, we're talking about why Jews are hated so locking them up every night isn't a cause of hatred towards them.

Well, yeah, but it's still a bit inaccurate to say, "The Jews were hated because THEY kept separate from their neighbors", when in fact that separateness was often MANDATED by non-Jewish authorities, or the neighbors themselves.

"I want to focus on the Jewishness of the characters... I want some Goldsteins and Cohens and and Bergs..."
~Larry David, Jewish comedian and propagandist

How DARE he want Jewish characters! That dillhole! Who the hell does he think he is, trying to determine how he wants to run his own show!

... Incidentally, care to give us a source for that quote? Maybe the context of the conversation? What characters is he talking about?

I can generally tell what people's racial backgrounds are because if you study racial anthropology long enough, you'll be able to do so.

But your idea of "studying racial anthropology" is to confine yourself to pseudoscience from the mid-19th century (e.g. de Gobineau) and to ignore all modern data, presumably because it contradicts your predetermined racist ideology. That's not really "studying" a subject, now, is it? More "imbibing and regurgitating outdated and discredited prejudices".

Why choose to believe de Gobineau's garbage? If you're going to champion 19th-century scientific errors, why not insist that the luminiferous aether is real, instead? Is it because belief in the aether doesn't provide a phoney justification for unpleasant actions?

Modern forensic analysis of skulls and bones can -- after a large series of measurements -- give a statistical indication of an individual's ethnic background, based as much on regional variations in diet and environment as anything else. It cannot provide a definitive statement, and it certainly can't be done to any degree of accuracy without careful measurement of numerous bones.

By the way, did you say somewhere previously that you believe in phrenology? Was that a joke?

Of course. They all have hook winged noses and a little hump back. Plus beady eyes, and claw like fingers.
Then there must be very few Jews in America, because I've never seen a person look like that. :mad: :mp5:

By the way, did you say somewhere previously that you believe in phrenology? Was that a joke?


Phrenology is a real science!

Phrenology is a real science!

Care to explain what you base this on? Or why it isn't -- has never been, as far as I know -- taught in any academic institution anywhere? Is there a current peer-reviewed Journal of Phrenology of which I am unaware?

The correct answer to this question is no, methinks.

Jews have been given a stereotypical "look," I know, and I will agree that several of my Jewish friends do indeed look Jewish. But that's because they're Israeli. I believe the Israeli look is the stereotyped Jewish look. ( If that makes any sense... )

However, none of my friends thought I was Jewish until I told them. My mom is a third generation American ( any trace of Russian/Polish on her is gone ) and my dad is a second generation Irish/Italian American, so if anything I look like an Irish/Italian/American mutt. :p People confuse me as a Christian/Catholic.

So while Israelis may be easy to pick out, I don't think Jews in general would be because the Israeli look is gone.

Pardon if any of this came out as racist, I'm exhausted and thoughts aren't forming coherently. :(

HOLY SHIT, Jews are SNAKE PEOPLE?!

I guess I've NEVER seen one in that case!

*hisses*

*coughs*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/pwrhouseguitar/IMG_0935.jpg

Thats me 1 1/2 years old. I am Jewish.

I definitley look curly haired and hooked nosed don't I?
Maybe you got switched in the hospital for a different baby? I hear it happens...

Besides, I demand an explanation how somebody didn't understand I was joking with Yoda! Maybe they did and played me for a fool. I really should stop typing now.