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Non-whites

Penultimia
19-08-2004, 00:53
So I've noticed that there seems to be a number of folks on this forum that aren't big fans of the Jews and also think that Judaism is a race. I was wondering what these people think about non-white people.

Blacks?

Arabs?

Asians?

Latinos?
Brutanion
19-08-2004, 00:54
So I've noticed that there seems to be a number of folks on this forum that aren't big fans of the Jews and also think that Judaism is a race. I was wondering what these people think about non-white people.

Blacks?

Arabs?

Asians?

Latinos?

You're from where you're born.
As long as you stick to that, I don't have a problem.
New Foxxinnia
19-08-2004, 00:55
I just slump Arabs and Latinos into the same category because they look exactly the same.
Arcadian Mists
19-08-2004, 00:56
You're from where you're born.
As long as you stick to that, I don't have a problem.


I have a humble question: I'm American, but my blood is German-Irish. I happen to consider myself mainly Celtic because of my strong Irish blood. Is geographical location everything?
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 00:57
I just slump Arabs and Latinos into the same category because they look exactly the same.
Charming
Aryan Supremacy
19-08-2004, 01:00
So I've noticed that there seems to be a number of folks on this forum that aren't big fans of the Jews and also think that Judaism is a race. I was wondering what these people think about non-white people.

Blacks?

Arabs?

Asians?

Latinos?

Actually i dont have any specific antipathy towards the Jews at all. I would put them in the same category with all the above mentioned groups, and my response to all woud be:

Not in my country.
CSW
19-08-2004, 01:01
Actually i dont have any specific antipathy towards the Jews at all. I would put them in the same category with all the above mentioned groups, and my response to all woud be:

Not in my country.
And that is?

By the way, what is your heritage?
Ashmoria
19-08-2004, 01:03
I just slump Arabs and Latinos into the same category because they look exactly the same.
you dont get out enough
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 01:04
Actually i dont have any specific antipathy towards the Jews at all. I would put them in the same category with all the above mentioned groups, and my response to all woud be:

Not in my country.
Funny, that is the same way I feel about supremecists: Not in my country.

(14 words btw)
Sumamba Buwhan
19-08-2004, 01:09
I just slump Arabs and Latinos into the same category because they look exactly the same.

arabtinos?

myself I think that all non-whites have darker skin. Except for maybe Albinos of a particular race, but then again their skin is pinkish and might be considered darker than white. But then again white skin isnt really white and also lotsa "whities" have pretty good tans making them darker than some non-whites. So all in all i would say that we are all human and I love everyone :fluffle:
Tiligth
19-08-2004, 01:17
Actually i dont have any specific antipathy towards the Jews at all. I would put them in the same category with all the above mentioned groups, and my response to all woud be:

Not in my country.
So you would still be in the stone age right? Diversity breeds discovery, so I guess if everyone in your country was "white" you would sit in your trees, scratching your groins and taking sips from fermented rotton fruit. am I right?

What makes someone in particular your "role model?" What did Hitler possess that you admire most?

I'm thinking you just admire the attention you receive by the infamy his name is associated with. Nothing more.
Wallgim
19-08-2004, 01:17
Well thats interesting...I was hoping I could just play the game and not have solicitations from WNs.

I have one question for the WNs on this game, when will you just realize that the WN talk is nothing more than idealist ranting. You speak of brotherhood but you can't even find a leader who isn't in jail or has 3 priors. Even David Duke looks like Jerry Springer! Matt Hale is on trial for soliciting murder (real smart for a superior race god), KKK/AN is in the toilet, and neo-nazis can only shoot your movement in the foot by picking fights, supporting 9/11, and listening to hatecore which is worse than rap. Furthermore you believe in the quack doctrine of eugenics and you support lifting the assault rifle ban so you can look all hot to the sleazy women at gun ranges.

Aren't you impressed too?

We all want a place in this world, a place where we can live without the limitations of society, thats why I like this game.
Arammanar
19-08-2004, 01:18
So you would still be in the stone age right? Diversity breeds discovery, so I guess if everyone in your country was "white" you would sit in your trees, scratching your groins and taking sips from fermented rotton fruit. am I right?

What makes someone in particular your "role model?" What did Hitler possess that you admire most?

I'm thinking you just admire the attention you receive by the infamy his name is associated with. Nothing more.
Diversity doesn't breed anything. Very few great discoveries were made by a team.
Jed Stone
19-08-2004, 01:30
A question like this---which simply invites hostile remarks from those so inclined toward supremacist beliefs----is simply a conduit for those persons lacking self-discipline and ambition for individual achievement to blame their inadequacy on others.

Racism is simply an excuse for the moderately-intelligent and socially-inept to deflect personal responsibility for their life situation. Accept the fact, finally and unequivocally, that one's skin color provides no inherent or instrinsic worth; personal achievement and accomplishment is the only distinguishing dynamic.

Implicit in this question is its direction toward whites for a response. This reveals an arrogance which is second only to presumptuousness in its degree of offensiveness.

As a non-white, I offer you the following:

I grew up poor.
I attended college through academic and competitive scholarships, not quota-based financial assistance.
I served as an officer in the United States Army.
I am a successful, practicing attorney.
I pay my taxes every year, and every day help my fellow citizens caught up in the machinery of the American justice system.
I am an American, and have earned the right to say so.

Those who have not kicked in and contributed in a positive way the the future of MY country have NO right to call themselves patriots or Americans---regardless of where they were born.

Any questions?
Suicidal Librarians
19-08-2004, 01:35
My two closest friends aren't white, so obviously I don't have a problem with non-whites whatsoever.
Tenete Traditiones
19-08-2004, 01:35
So I've noticed that there seems to be a number of folks on this forum that aren't big fans of the Jews and also think that Judaism is a race. I was wondering what these people think about non-white people.

Blacks?

Arabs?

Asians?

Latinos?
Mud
Enodscopia
19-08-2004, 01:37
I don't like arabs.
The Islamic Liberation
19-08-2004, 01:40
Why does everyone hate Arabs????
Keruvalia
19-08-2004, 01:41
Let's see .... I'm Native American ... can I rightly say, "Whites, get out of my country!" ? :D

Amazing how neo-Nazi idiots who scream about how non-Whites should go back where they came from always forget about us ....
Katganistan
19-08-2004, 01:43
Actually i dont have any specific antipathy towards the Jews at all. I would put them in the same category with all the above mentioned groups, and my response to all woud be:

Not in my country.

Oh, so what country are you from?
Keruvalia
19-08-2004, 01:43
Why does everyone hate Arabs????

I don't.
Novantus
19-08-2004, 01:47
Just a point about racism - racism is just an outlet for prejudice. It is prejudice that should be addressed.

And then back to those that have negative reactions to 'coloured' people. What is it that has made you feel this way? I highly doubt you've ever been beaten up by us. I wonder if perhaps a gang of colored people (not just a blakc gang or a vietnamese triad gang or the mafia or whatever but a living breathing benneton ad type gang) intimidated you. Why all ethnic people and not specific ethnicities? Or is it simply a matter of envy - to see that coloured people can be just as succesful, if not more, than your white/aryan brethren? Surely there has to be also other white people that have stomped on other white people to get ahead - why not attack them too?
Sooty Babia
19-08-2004, 01:47
People are people, I never make the mistake of thinking poorly of someone because they are not a white american.

I often judge a white american more harshly though :).

I am a white american, and I have spent a bit of time with foreigners as well. I hate to say this type of thing and sound a certain way ( I know what some of you are thinking of me as I type this! I have heard it before, please spare me ) but I have found white Americans to be the rudest of all the people I encounter.

I am a consultant, mainly doing corporate level work. I go to the grocery store--it's not a black man cutting me off and swearing, it's a rich white man.

It's a soccer mom in her suv who almost side swipes me when I bicycle.

I live near an urban center, and have many needs and opportuntities to spend time in "racially poor" areas through volunteer work and some friendships. Now, I drive through here, it is a whole new world. Some people, they hate me just for being white--I can understandt hat some people are biased, fine. But the people driving, they wait for me, they wave when I wave, etc. When I am biking in a group (I bike in Critical Mass) they wave and smile, even though it's Friday at 6:00.

In the white neighborhood, let's just say it's a different story when we do Critical Mass biking....

Now, before you flame away at me or something, these are just my personal perceptions... please don't respond defensively :). The Europeans and Blacks and South Americans I have worked with and known are definetly more relaxed, more mild, more pleasent, etc. Please don't fire back with "People in Paris are jerks" I know that already! And they all aren't... they just don't like it when you speak their language poorly. (Because we all know when we get that Indian tech support guy we LOVE listening to his poor speaking, right? I mean, you'd NEVER call him a rude name)

Anyway, I am just sayin' :)
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 01:48
Mud
We must secure the existance of all people and a future free of bigotry

14 words.
Tenete Traditiones
19-08-2004, 01:49
According to FBI statistics:


* Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.
* Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
* Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites in 1992.
* In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
* Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
* About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
* Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
* On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
* Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
* Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
* Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
* Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
* In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.
* In the last 30 years , more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders compared to 38,000 killed in Korea and 58,000 in Vietnam.
* These statistics are forbidden to mention by the Jewish media.


In the last 50 years, the white part of the American population has declined from 90% to 72%. The U.S. now has about 33 million blacks and 25 million Hispanics (legal and illegal). By the year 2050, American whites will be a minority, just 49%. By 2100, whites will be 25% of the population. What will life for whites be like in the future?
Katganistan
19-08-2004, 01:49
Let's see .... I'm Native American ... can I rightly say, "Whites, get out of my country!" ? :D

Amazing how neo-Nazi idiots who scream about how non-Whites should go back where they came from always forget about us ....


They don't, Keruvalia. They simply cite "right of conquest".
DontPissUsOff
19-08-2004, 01:49
Agreed. Who's volunteering to go after the Nazis first?
Katganistan
19-08-2004, 01:52
Diversity doesn't breed anything. Very few great discoveries were made by a team.

Riiiiiight. So forget the space program, jet fighters (first created by Germany, dontcha know), rocketry, weapons of all kinds, computers, the internet....
DontPissUsOff
19-08-2004, 01:58
Nuclesar technology, the triple-expension steam engine, the steam turbine, oxygen, hydrogen, most of modern chemistry, the subatomic particles...
The Scarecrows
19-08-2004, 01:58
Black, white, brown, red, we're all the same if they tear away the top layers of skin. However, let's not do that, I heard it's painful.
Wallgim
19-08-2004, 01:58
Yeah thats why I'm glad neo-nazis are non-violent.
DontPissUsOff
19-08-2004, 01:59
Aye. Someone ought to demonstrate it on them. Would be highly amusing.
Letila
19-08-2004, 02:03
I don't really believe in the concept of race. I think of people as individuals.
Keblukistan
19-08-2004, 02:03
Actually i dont have any specific antipathy towards the Jews at all. I would put them in the same category with all the above mentioned groups, and my response to all woud be:

Not in my country.
i think you guys are all overreacting to this post. the guy just has a funny country called aryan suprimacy so he said not in my country... people need to learn how to take criticism. i could care less if people call me a cracker or
a honky. why do other races (especially blacks) find their respective derogatory terms so offensive. especially when blacks use the "N" word all the time in normal speach... i don't call other white people crackers.
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 02:05
According to FBI statistics:


* Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.
Poverty based statistic. More black people live in poverty, a higher rate of poverty has always been shown to lead to a higher rate of crime
* Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
* Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites in 1992.
* In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
* Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
* About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
* Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
* On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
* Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
* Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
* Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
* Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.The same is true for all of these.

* In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.
* In the last 30 years , more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders compared to 38,000 killed in Korea and 58,000 in Vietnam.
Korea lasted less than three years. On a year to year basis, thats less than 10% as many people dead. Still far too high I grant you, but that statistic is misleading.

* These statistics are forbidden to mention by the Jewish media.Which is why, although the murder rate has gone down 20%, the coverage of murders on TV has gone up 600%? Which is why shows like "Cops" (not well known for a positive portrayal of african-americans as law abiding citizens) have become hugely popular?


In the last 50 years, the white part of the American population has declined from 90% to 72%. The U.S. now has about 33 million blacks and 25 million Hispanics (legal and illegal). By the year 2050, American whites will be a minority, just 49%. By 2100, whites will be 25% of the population. What will life for whites be like in the future?They'll probably still have more money than everyone else, which is a very sad state of affairs. Also, you neglect the fact that many people will choose to breed outside of their own race, making 1/2 white and 1/2 black children which you no doubt consider black rather than white.
Garaj Mahal
19-08-2004, 02:05
All Humanity originated in Africa. So even moron white supremacists had black ancestors many thousands of years ago.
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 02:07
i think you guys are all overreacting to this post. the guy just has a funny country called aryan suprimacy so he said not in my country... people need to learn how to take criticism. i could care less if people call me a cracker or
a honky. why do other races (especially blacks) find their respective derogatory terms so offensive. especially when blacks use the "N" word all the time in normal speach... i don't call other white people crackers.
Its no longer an insult like that.
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 02:08
All Humanity originated in Africa. So even moron white supremacists had black ancestors many thousands of years ago.
Yeah, they just don't believe that though. White people came fully formed, blond-haired, blue-eyed and inherantly superior into this world in the area now known as Scandanavia.
Goed
19-08-2004, 02:10
Poverty based statistic. More black people live in poverty, a higher rate of poverty has always been shown to lead to a higher rate of crime
The same is true for all of these.


Korea lasted less than three years. On a year to year basis, thats less than 10% as many people dead. Still far too high I grant you, but that statistic is misleading.

Which is why, although the murder rate has gone down 20%, the coverage of murders on TV has gone up 600%? Which is why shows like "Cops" (not well known for a positive portrayal of african-americans as law abiding citizens) have become hugely popular?


They'll probably still have more money than everyone else, which is a very sad state of affairs. Also, you neglect the fact that many people will choose to breed outside of their own race, making 1/2 white and 1/2 black children which you no doubt consider black rather than white.

Damn straight! :D
Enodscopia
19-08-2004, 02:14
Yeah, they just don't believe that though. White people came fully formed, blond-haired, blue-eyed and inherantly superior into this world in the area now known as Scandanavia.

Exactly. One reason that I know thats not true is, can you tell me one thing Africans have invented. Africa is the most horrible place on Earth nothing is made other than in cities WHITES have made. But whites have built the greatest civilizations along with Asians and past Arabs. So there is no bit of proof existing that could make me belive that I had african ancestors.
DontPissUsOff
19-08-2004, 02:18
So...you're going to discount all the available evidence because it doesn't suit your beliefs? And by the way, Africa was once mighty indeed. The Egyptians were Africans. So were the Somalis. Mogadishu was once a fabulously wealthy, powerful and advanced city. And what of Nubia, ocne a cradle of civilisation?
Enodscopia
19-08-2004, 02:19
So...you're going to discount all the available evidence because it doesn't suit your beliefs? And by the way, Africa was once mighty indeed. The Egyptians were Africans. So were the Somalis. Mogadishu was once a fabulously wealthy, powerful and advanced city. And what of Nubia, ocne a cradle of civilisation?

I'm talking about ones that are left.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 02:27
Listen, as a person who has lived all around the world, and in every country ive lived in cept the states has a non-white majority, i can tell you that EVERY SINGLE BEING IS EQUAL. Non-whites in Pakistan or Mozambique or Panama dont go shouting "Death to white people. Burn them in their homes! Put on funny hoods and burn crosses! Murder white people who went from living in complete poverty to being on the Fortune 500 list!".

I personally think that Arabs and people from the indian sub-continent are the nicest people on earth. Most of them dont have ambitions, they just try to make a living. They work HARD! Poverty in those countries is huge, yet their crime rate is strangly not very high. It is because people in those areas are taught RESPECT! R-E-S-P-E-C-T. Did you know, that in the REAL Arabian peninsula, not the "women-wear-hoods-and-men-blow-themselves-up-all-the-time-and-both-hate-america" Arabia that the news portrays, was where womens rights were developed? Did you know that our numbers are based on ARAB numbers? Arabs baisically STARTED Astronomy and physics and navigation and such! (or re-discovered actually. The Greeks started it but then theres the whole thing of armies of Vandals and Barbarians attacking them). If anything, it should be WHITES that are hated. We, surprise surprise, are a MINORITY in the world. Chinese people, BLACK people, tan people, they all outnumber us! We have waged crusades against Arabs because of mis-understandings (we lost), we STUPIDLY put a jewish state in the middle of an Arab country (Arabs didnt hate Jews before, and most still dont, but the ones that do hate jews hate them because stupid WHITE people put them there), and we have comitted MASS GENOCIDE! Jesus, smite us now before we end the world!


By the way, there ARENT alot of Jews in the world. Most jews arent rich AT ALL. My best friend is a jew! My friends are either Black, Latino, Chinese, Arab, Pakistani, or white as well. Jews dont "Secretley controll the media". They dont "Controll the government" or "Get rich while good christians get poor!". Its the other way around, people! Also, I AM a white christian, but that doesnt mean i should hate everyone!

Trust me people, i have been to more countries than most of you have, i have seen their culture, their people, their languge, their EVERYTHING. Arabs, jews and blacks arent evil, they're just poor. And prejudicial white christians are the evil ones. Is ay that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM should be shot. It would save the world from more atrocities, and alot more stupid people too.
CSW
19-08-2004, 02:28
I'm talking about ones that are left.
Irrelevent. Read Guns Germs and Steel.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 02:30
Exactly. One reason that I know thats not true is, can you tell me one thing Africans have invented. Africa is the most horrible place on Earth nothing is made other than in cities WHITES have made. But whites have built the greatest civilizations along with Asians and past Arabs. So there is no bit of proof existing that could make me belive that I had african ancestors.

You... freaking..racist... I swear, if i ever see you on the street, i will seriously put you in pain. Serously. Humans BEGAN in southern africa. Like it or not, you racist freak, we are ALL Black inside! Africa, is THE nicest palce on earth. They may be poor, but they are KIND! They have RESPECT, and Honor! The greatest person in the world alive today is Nelson Mandela, my friend. He is a great man!

Oh, and by the way, the City of Cairo wasnt made by whites, yet its one of the worlds largest cities. Surprise surprise.
The Parthians
19-08-2004, 02:32
What about Persians?
Sumamba Buwhan
19-08-2004, 02:35
I'm talking about ones that are left.


I wouldnt call it talking, I would call it babbling about nonsense.
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 02:36
Exactly. One reason that I know thats not true is, can you tell me one thing Africans have invented. Africa is the most horrible place on Earth nothing is made other than in cities WHITES have made. But whites have built the greatest civilizations along with Asians and past Arabs. So there is no bit of proof existing that could make me belive that I had african ancestors.
ah, jesus. You try to write satire...

Africa, crucible of civilisation, is where Egypt is. You remember Egypt? The first civilisation? Just a little to the east, you have Iraq, where Babylon was. There's another one.

The reason Africa is in such a state is because of western european colonialism. Its rather absurd to oppress a whole continent and then whine its their fault they're so backwards.

A federal government, with provinces reporting to a central government. That was invented in Africa. You know where else it's been used with some sucess? In fact, come to think of it, the whole of America was built on the backs of black slaves. The history of your country has always been tied with people of different races, your cities aren't white-built.
Enodscopia
19-08-2004, 02:36
You... freaking..racist... I swear, if i ever see you on the street, i will seriously put you in pain. Serously. Humans BEGAN in southern africa. Like it or not, you racist freak, we are ALL Black inside! Africa, is THE nicest palce on earth. They may be poor, but they are KIND! They have RESPECT, and Honor! The greatest person in the world alive today is Nelson Mandela, my friend. He is a great man!

Oh, and by the way, the City of Cairo wasnt made by whites, yet its one of the worlds largest cities. Surprise surprise.

Look in what I wrote I said ARABS. Nelson Mandela is a moron freak. And how can you call Africa kind the only thing that happens there that makes news is GENOCIDE, AIDS, DIEASE, STARVING, and MY FOOD FROM AMERICA GOING THERE.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 02:36
Oh yeah, i forgot about the Far eastern Asians.


We can attribute them with

1. Invented gun powder
2. modern science
3. Even MORE advanced astronomy
4. Rice balls (yum)
5. Tea
6. and hundreds of other inventions


Oh, and sorry if i went a little overboard in my last post. Racists infuriate me :).
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 02:37
I'm talking about ones that are left.
Right, so if we burn down the cities that other races created, then they don't count? That makes it rather easy for us dontcha think?
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 02:38
Look in what I wrote I said ARABS. Nelson Mandela is a moron freak. And how can you call Africa kind the only thing that happens there that makes news is GENOCIDE, AIDS, DIEASE, STARVING, and MY FOOD FROM AMERICA GOING THERE.

Thats because thats all that get covered! You only hate Nelson MAndela because he ended an Evil Apartheid that last mroe than 100 years! Oh and by the way, all the Genocide, aides and starvign was caused by, surprise suprise, EUROPEANS! They, my poorly informed racist friend, caused all this civil strife amongst the people of Africa. After the Europeans left, they left africa on its own, causing a massive problem.


Happy?
Enodscopia
19-08-2004, 02:38
Oh yeah, i forgot about the Far eastern Asians.


We can attribute them with

1. Invented gun powder
2. modern science
3. Even MORE advanced astronomy
4. Rice balls (yum)
5. Tea
6. and hundreds of other inventions


Oh, and sorry if i went a little overboard in my last post. Racists infuriate me :).

I said Arabs, Asians, and Whites in my post. I know arabs and Asians have done as much or more than whites have.
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 02:40
Look in what I wrote I said ARABS. Nelson Mandela is a moron freak. And how can you call Africa kind the only thing that happens there that makes news is GENOCIDE, AIDS, DIEASE, STARVING, and MY FOOD FROM AMERICA GOING THERE.
Yeah, cos you don't want your nation to spare a little extra food (and its not exactly like you're short of it) for some starving ******, do ya?
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 02:40
I said Arabs, Asians, and Whites in my post. I know arabs and Asians have done as much or more than whites have.

Ok buddy, than what about Latinos? Those people south of the border? Hmmm?
Dontgonearthere
19-08-2004, 02:41
Ahm...Egypt was not the first civilzation, that was the Middle East. Fertile Crescent and all that.
I think Egypt was the third big Empire of the ancient world, after the Assyrians and Babylonians.

To the original question, I really could care less what somebodies skin colour is. Im not such a fanatical anti-racist that I dont pretend not to notice it. If I see a black kid in loose clothes and a bandanna in a rich, white neighborhood (Or vice versa ;) ), I would be a bit suspecious...

Irony...isnt that a kind of metal?
Enodscopia
19-08-2004, 02:42
Yeah, cos you don't want your nation to spare a little extra food (and its not exactly like you're short of it) for some starving ******, do ya?

Its not my problem if they all die its their mess.
Enodscopia
19-08-2004, 02:43
Ok buddy, than what about Latinos? Those people south of the border? Hmmm?

I don't really know much about them. I don't like to pass judgement on things i don't know alot about.
The Parthians
19-08-2004, 02:44
Persia was one of the first civilizations... In fact, most inventions attributed to Arabs were actually Persian.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 02:46
Ahm...Egypt was not the first civilzation, that was the Middle East. Fertile Crescent and all that.
I think Egypt was the third big Empire of the ancient world, after the Assyrians and Babylonians.

To the original question, I really could care less what somebodies skin colour is. Im not such a fanatical anti-racist that I dont pretend not to notice it. If I see a black kid in loose clothes and a bandanna in a rich, white neighborhood (Or vice versa ;) ), I would be a bit suspecious...

Irony...isnt that a kind of metal?

lol on the irony part

Hes right, you know. Most ancient civilizations were started in the middle east and Africa. DOnt forget Carthage, which was just as powerful as Rome at a time. It took the Romans three wars and more than 100 years of fighting to Exterminate Carthage. There was Also the Empire of Nubia, the Good christians of Ethiopia who built awsome chruches into rock pillars, the great cicty of Great Zimbabwe. The city of TImbuktu, which was at one time the city in which the worlds greatest scholars, who were Black and Arabs or Black ARabs, by the way.
Sumamba Buwhan
19-08-2004, 02:46
Endoscopia is just a troll. that or has absolutly no knowledge past what his his daddy bubba tol' 'im 'bout dem dirty niggahs.
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 02:47
Its not my problem if they all die its their mess.
That, in the words of the illustrious chimp, is a major league asshole thing to say. I feel it would be oddly appropriate if your house burnt down and your neighbour refused to lend you his garden hose saying it was your mess. Even more so if he was the one who left all that Kerosene and kindling in your attic.

White people started the goddam fire in Africa. For us then to haggle over the price of putting it out... that's just motherfucking evil.
Revolos
19-08-2004, 02:48
Funny, that is the same way I feel about supremecists: Not in my country.

(14 words btw)


*Confused as to why you threw in '14 words' in an anti-supremecist post* :confused:
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 02:48
Persia was one of the first civilizations... In fact, most inventions attributed to Arabs were actually Persian.


If i get it correct, it was 1, the sumerians, 2, the babylonians, 3, the Assyrians, 4, the egyptians, 5 the phoenicians, 6, the greeks, 7 the persians, 8, the Carthaginians,9 the romans, then so on and so forth.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 02:49
That, in the words of the illustrious chimp, is a major league asshole thing to say. I feel it would be oddly appropriate if your house burnt down and your neighbour refused to lend you his garden hose saying it was your mess. Even more so if he was the one who left all that Kerosene and kindling in your attic.

White people started the goddam fire in Africa. For us then to haggle over the price of putting it out... that's just motherfucking evil.

I agree.

But wouldnt, y'know, Napalm be a better thing to put in his Attic?
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 02:52
*Confused as to why you threw in '14 words' in an anti-supremecist post* :confused:Its a paradoy. A different kind of 14 words, if you like. I've spent whole threads with friend (and much hilarity) answering mornic supremecists in posts of exactly 14 words.


Supremicists narrowing the gene pool will cause reduction in IQ. Or has it already? (14 words)
Revolos
19-08-2004, 02:53
Its a paradoy. A different kind of 14 words, if you like. I've spent whole threads with friend (and much hilarity) answering mornic supremecists in posts of exactly 14 words.


Supremicists narrowing the gene pool will cause reduction in IQ. Or has it already? (14 words)


Gotcha. Clever. ;)
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 02:55
I agree.

But wouldnt, y'know, Napalm be a better thing to put in his Attic?
Flaming in the most literal sense. But who can say the racist is undeserving?
(14 words)

Knock it off though, we're skirting a line than the mods may disapprove of.
(14 words)
Revolos
19-08-2004, 02:56
Persia was one of the first civilizations... In fact, most inventions attributed to Arabs were actually Persian.


Not to sound like a complete idiot, but I thought Persians and Arabs came from the same place.
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 02:56
If i get it correct, it was 1, the sumerians, 2, the babylonians, 3, the Assyrians, 4, the egyptians, 5 the phoenicians, 6, the greeks, 7 the persians, 8, the Carthaginians,9 the romans, then so on and so forth.Greeks before Romans
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 02:57
Flaming in the most literal sense. But who can say the racist is undeserving?
(14 words)

Knock it off though, we're skirting a line than the mods may disapprove of.
(14 words)

Gotcha.
Tenete Traditiones
19-08-2004, 02:57
All Humanity originated in Africa. So even moron white supremacists had black ancestors many thousands of years ago.
And the future Whites had to evolve physically and mentally to suit the colder climate in Europe. While the negros in Africa remained the same beasts for all these millenia.

Not that I believe in evolution nonsense anyway...
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 02:58
Greeks before Romans

It is. 1 is the first empire and 9 is the newest.


Oh, and arabs coem from Arabia, Persians from what is modern day Iran.
The Parthians
19-08-2004, 03:00
Persians before Greeks.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 03:01
And the future Whites had to evolve physically and mentally to suit the colder climate in Europe. While the negros in Africa remained the same beasts for all these millenia.

Not that I believe in evolution nonsense anyway...

Dude, would it be possible to get people banned from the forums for beign racist? ITs got to be here somewhere...


Oh, and by the way, the Europeans were idiots to move to Europe. WHy leave the lush savanas of Africa for a FRozen Wasteland? (they moved in close to the time of the Ica Age).

Oh, and Evolution IS true. I bet (no offence to others who do this) that you think the Bible has no flaws. I bet you think it is 100% true.

And some of the Bible, like the Old Testament, were written by JEWS!
Sumamba Buwhan
19-08-2004, 03:01
and then the Spartans kicked the Persians asses :p

those crazy militant homosexuals. Okay I am just trying to start more flame wars. so sue me.
Tenete Traditiones
19-08-2004, 03:01
Oh, and by the way, the City of Cairo wasnt made by whites, yet its one of the worlds largest cities. Surprise surprise.
Cairo was made by an ancient race of Mediterranean Whites. Egypt only became darker as the Arab Mohammedans began their violent expansion into North Africa.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 03:02
Persians before Greeks.

Your right, sorry. I should have put mycanae where greece is on the list.
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 03:05
It is. 1 is the first empire and 9 is the newest.


Oh, and arabs coem from Arabia, Persians from what is modern day Iran.
Sorry, I'm very tired.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 03:06
Cairo was made by an ancient race of Mediterranean Whites. Egypt only became darker as the Arab Mohammedans began their violent expansion into North Africa.

No, my friend, Cairo was founded by Arabs. Stop with your White Christian Supremecy, OK? People liek youa re the lowest of the low. I give you advice as a fellow white christian to shut up before you cause A. your banishment from the game and B., you being hated by 99% of the NS forums (the other 1% are your fellow racists and people who cant speak English).
Ruby Villa
19-08-2004, 03:06
Actually i dont have any specific antipathy towards the Jews at all. I would put them in the same category with all the above mentioned groups, and my response to all woud be:

Not in my country.

Im guessing that countrys not America because we have something called tolerance.
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 03:08
And the future Whites had to evolve physically and mentally to suit the colder climate in Europe. While the negros in Africa remained the same beasts for all these millenia.

Not that I believe in evolution nonsense anyway...
Its true, evolution is nonsence. The racist's continued existance is proof against natural selection.
(14 words)
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 03:09
Im guessing that countrys not America because we have something called tolerance.

Agreed. No RAcists in Our fair country, no sir. The Mothers of the members of the KKK were hamsters, and their fathers smelt of elderberries! I fart in the Klans general direction!
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 03:10
Dude, would it be possible to get people banned from the forums for beign racist? ITs got to be here somewhere...
No, unfortunately, racism has been ruled to be an allowed and accepted political view.
(14 words)
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 03:10
Its true, evolution is nonsence. The racist's continued existance is proof against natural selection.
(14 words)

I cant tell if you are joking or if your speaking the truth.

if your speaking what you really think, you have a strong point there.
The Parthians
19-08-2004, 03:13
Not to sound like a complete idiot, but I thought Persians and Arabs came from the same place.


Eh, :rolleyes: I get this so many times.....

Persians are an Indo-European people descended from a group of European nomads called "Aryans". Many Persians to this day have green or blue eyes, fair skin, and light brown or even blond hair. Ancient Persians often referred to themselves as Aryans, which is derived from an Avestan word meaning 'pure'.

Arabs are a semitic people with dark skin, eyes, and hair.

Put the two together in a room and you would have to be blind not to notice the difference.

Arab
http://www.shaml.org/agenda/2001/Durban/photos/images/Bahi,%20Amir%20and%20Raji%20from%20Arab%20Delegation.JPG

Persian
http://www.anvari.org/db/cols/Persian_Models/Persian_Models_VS.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/images/030410_dariush1.jpg
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 03:14
I cant tell if you are joking or if your speaking the truth.

if your speaking what you really think, you have a strong point there.
Evolution as a principle is self evident, but the existance of racism is perplexing. (14 words)

Ideas apparently are no better at surviving due to truthfulness than for being false. (14 words)
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 03:16
Its challenging to always make my points in fourteen words. However, I suceed again.
(14 words)
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 03:16
Eh, :rolleyes: I get this so many times.....

Persians are an Indo-European people descended from a group of European nomads called "Aryans". Many Persians to this day have green or blue eyes, fair skin, and light brown or even blond hair. Ancient Persians often referred to themselves as Aryans, which is derived from an Avestan word meaning 'pure'.

Arabs are a semitic people with dark skin, eyes, and hair.

Put the two together in a room and you would have to be blind not to notice the difference.

Arab
http://www.shaml.org/agenda/2001/Durban/photos/images/Bahi,%20Amir%20and%20Raji%20from%20Arab%20Delegation.JPG

Persian
http://www.anvari.org/db/cols/Persian_Models/Persian_Models_VS.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/images/030410_dariush1.jpg

I think the Arabs look better :D.

i like moustaches. Plus ive lived in Pakistan for a while so it seems more natural to me.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 03:17
Its challenging to always make my points in fourteen words. However, I suceed again.
(14 words)

lol
New Bostin
19-08-2004, 03:17
Just a few corrections. The Jews _are_ a race, don't let the fact that you can convert to Judaism as a religion fool you. Second, it's unlikely that we were all have black ancestors, more likely Arab (what have you). And last, discrimination against white people because they're white is still racism, make no mistake. In fact, middle aged white males are some of the most discriminated against in America today.
Superpower07
19-08-2004, 03:17
Blacks?
I don't see anything wrong with them

Arabs?
I'm friends with a Muslim girl in my history class

Asians?
My BEST FRIEND is half-Japanese!

Latinos?
I am extremely good friends with a Latino kids that used to go to my school (now he's in Brazil)
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 03:19
Just a few corrections. The Jews _are_ a race, don't let the fact that you can convert to Judaism as a religion fool you. Second, it's unlikely that we were all have black ancestors, more likely Arab. And last, discrimination against white people because they're white is still racism, make no mistake. In fact, middle aged white males are some of the most discriminated against in America today.

no one is Being racist towards white here. Im a white myself. I am jsut saying that the Racist whites should be discriminated against because of all the suffering they have caused.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 03:21
Oh and its scientifically provent hat humans origionated in southern africa, although there is a new theory that claims humans developed in different places, although all of those places are in either the southern hemisphere or close to the tropics. None in Europe.
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 03:21
In fact, middle aged white males are some of the most discriminated against in America today.
Yeah, they're always being underpaid and pulled over by cops for no reason.

Clearly you have a different idea of discrimination than I do.
New Bostin
19-08-2004, 03:21
no one is Being racist towards white here. Im a white myself. I am jsut saying that the Racist whites should be discriminated against because of all the suffering they have caused.

Racism in return for racism? As they say, "Two wrongs don't make a right."
International Liberty
19-08-2004, 03:22
"White" is an artificial classification that varies from culture to culture, I am pale with freckles, look all irish but my mother is hispanic, yet in college my frien Murty who is Indian (Central Asia Indian not "Native American") who is very dark skined is considered "white" by the US Govt while I am considered "Hispanic", it is all pretty silly, they Govt considers Hispanic a cultural as anyone whe is decended from a Spanish speaking country, while white is considered anyone from Europe (other than Spain), the middle east or Central Asia, so all Caucasians other than Spaniards.

But being that I have a lot of freckles I consider myself spotted rather than white.

Culturaly in the US white means either southern caucasian or "WASPy" New England based. Either an ignorant red neck or a niave suburban in khakis and loafers, basicly white means not "street smart".

eh it means dif things to dif peeps, it is based on the conotation, tone and inflection.
CSW
19-08-2004, 03:22
Racism in return for racism? As they say, "Two wrongs don't make a right."
That isn't racism.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 03:23
Racism in return for racism? As they say, "Two wrongs don't make a right."

sorry, i forgot to put "if anyone should have prejudice against them it should be the RACIST whites, not all whites".
Penultimia
19-08-2004, 03:23
Exactly. One reason that I know thats not true is, can you tell me one thing Africans have invented. Africa is the most horrible place on Earth nothing is made other than in cities WHITES have made. But whites have built the greatest civilizations along with Asians and past Arabs. So there is no bit of proof existing that could make me belive that I had african ancestors.

How about the pyramids? The great african civilizations of Ghana, Sonhai and Egypt? Africans were the first to use iron ore. African Americans invented the stoplight, gas mask, peanut brittle the locomotive self-oiler thingy and countless other things.
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 03:23
Racism in return for racism? As they say, "Two wrongs don't make a right."
I think his point was descrimination based on views rather than race.

However, I don't grant your premise either. Policies like affirmitave action, which are undeniably racist, are designed to tip the scales back, make it easier for black people to climb the social ladder, and in effect, right a wrong with another wrong.
New Bostin
19-08-2004, 03:24
Yeah, they're always being underpaid and pulled over by cops for no reason.

Clearly you have a different idea of discrimination than I do.

Clearly. Thanks to the stereotype of the racist white male, white males in general have become looked down on and the minorities are often given positions, objects, money, etc. based solely on their minority status. Does racism against minorities still exist? Yes. But there's also a much more widely accepted racism against whites.
New Bostin
19-08-2004, 03:26
sorry, i forgot to put "if anyone should have prejudice against them it should be the RACIST whites, not all whites".

I don't think prejudice is ever justified.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 03:26
Clearly. Thanks to the stereotype of the racist white male, white males in general have become looked down on and the minorities are often given positions, objects, money, etc. based solely on their minority status. Does racism against minorities still exist? Yes. But there's also a much more widely accepted racism against whites.

Well I havent witnessed it. Although it may have something to do with me coming from New England. Where everybody is friendly :D.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 03:26
I don't think prejudice is ever justified.

I know, i dont either. Im just saying that those whoa re racists should be punished.
New Bostin
19-08-2004, 03:28
I think his point was descrimination based on views rather than race.

However, I don't grant your premise either. Policies like affirmitave action, which are undeniably racist, are designed to tip the scales back, make it easier for black people to climb the social ladder, and in effect, right a wrong with another wrong.

Affirmative action when controlled can be a good thing if the scales were tipped in the first place. However, once the scales are evened and if affirmative action continues, it becomes a problem.
New Bostin
19-08-2004, 03:29
Oh, and for the record, I'm not racist. I believe that no matter your skin color, everyone should be on an equal standing, skin color has no significance as far as skill sets and abilities go. I am also a white male.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 03:31
Oh, and for the record, I'm not racist. I believe that no matter your skin color, everyone should be on an equal standing, skin color has no significance as far as skill sets and abilities go. I am also a white male.

same here.
New Bostin
19-08-2004, 03:31
I know, i dont either. Im just saying that those whoa re racists should be punished.

I do agree that racism shouldn't be tolerated, and I'm not sure how it continues to perpetuate today. However punishing racists seems a little harsh.
Tenete Traditiones
19-08-2004, 03:33
Dude, would it be possible to get people banned from the forums for beign racist? ITs got to be here somewhere...
Perhaps the Communist Manifesto?


Oh, and by the way, the Europeans were idiots to move to Europe. WHy leave the lush savanas of Africa for a FRozen Wasteland? (they moved in close to the time of the Ica Age).
Idiots? Living in a mud-hut in the unbearable heat of Kenya is preferable to the glory of Europe? Please clarify your statement.

Oh, and Evolution IS true. I bet (no offence to others who do this) that you think the Bible has no flaws. I bet you think it is 100% true.
Well I pretty much knew only giving the "evolutionary" version was sufficient in this thread.

And some of the Bible, like the Old Testament, were written by JEWS!
No, it wasn't.
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 03:35
Clearly. Thanks to the stereotype of the racist white male, white males in general have become looked down on and the minorities are often given positions, objects, money, etc. based solely on their minority status. Does racism against minorities still exist? Yes. But there's also a much more widely accepted racism against whites.
There might be racism or prejudice, but this is rarely translated into full-blown discrimination.
Tenete Traditiones
19-08-2004, 03:36
No, my friend, Cairo was founded by Arabs. Stop with your White Christian Supremecy, OK? People liek youa re the lowest of the low. I give you advice as a fellow white christian to shut up before you cause A. your banishment from the game and B., you being hated by 99% of the NS forums (the other 1% are your fellow racists and people who cant speak English).
No because that is just factually incorrect.
It did not become Arab until the 7th century well after Egypt had fallen from its great ancient days. In its greatness, it contained Mediterranean Whites as were found in Persia.
Safehaven2
19-08-2004, 03:38
Im not racist so dont flame me for this but I read a a book and a few published research papers discussing genetics in its role with Whites, non whites and their intelligence exc. The prominent thing stated was that intelligence wise Non-whites from Africa, Asia, Oceania S America exc are actually more intelligent than whites from America and Europe. Resoning behind this was that as whites from industrialized Europe had everything set up to make life easier while people from the places mentioned had it as hard as it gets so genetically they are more intelligent. Im not saying now that if you took a Harvard graduate and put him next to a Hunter gather from Guiene(sp?) that the hunter gather would no ore Im saying that if they both had the same chance, went to same quality school system exc the Hunter gatherer would come out on top. Well theres my 2 cence.
Safehaven2
19-08-2004, 03:41
No because that is just factually incorrect.
It did not become Arab until the 7th century well after Egypt had fallen from its great ancient days. In its greatness, it contained Mediterranean Whites as were found in Persia.


In raciel classifications there are I believe 8 kinds of the Human species today. White, Black, Asain, Guine...cant remember the rest its in a book somewere here but the thing is Arabs fit in to the white classification but anyways yes Arabs didn't found Cario they conquered it but "whites"(I mean your definition of Blonde hair blue eyes exc) didnt found it either.
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 03:41
Affirmative action when controlled can be a good thing if the scales were tipped in the first place. However, once the scales are evened and if affirmative action continues, it becomes a problem.
Thats not the case yet though
Himmermann
19-08-2004, 03:56
Im Canadian so its alot different here. Not that we dont have any racists, they just dont seem as vocal, as imbedded in our history(the KKK), or quite so militant. It does seem to me though that its really less about race and more about classizim---who has more cash. The wealthy Hate the poor out of fear that they may take their stuff, and the poor Hate the rich cause they dont share. If you look closely at most of these White Supremists groups they are filled with low income lazy white folk who think they should have more simply cause they are white.

Ignorance is our enemy here--we must all unite to defeat this foe.

or not its a free country still...........right?
New Bostin
19-08-2004, 03:57
Thats not the case yet though

It's hard to tell
Spoffin
19-08-2004, 04:01
It's hard to tell
Well, I think the social statistics suggest that there still is disparity between black people and white people.
THE LOST PLANET
19-08-2004, 04:30
Affirmative action when controlled can be a good thing if the scales were tipped in the first place. However, once the scales are evened and if affirmative action continues, it becomes a problem.The actual definition of affirmitive action doesn't say 'blacks over whites', it says 'the under represented segment of society when compared to population ratios should be given preference in situations where other qualifications are equal'. So it actually wouldn't be a problem once the 'scales are evened' as then there wouldn't be an 'under represented segment' and AA would be moot.
Wallgim
19-08-2004, 04:37
Tenete Traditions:

Cairo was made by an ancient race of Mediterranean Whites. Egypt only became darker as the Arab Mohammedans began their violent expansion into North Africa.


Sorry to point this out so late but Islam and Mohammed came way later than that.
Aisetaselanau
19-08-2004, 05:28
Ok where to begin....

1. Cairo was founded by a Semetic people called the Egyptians. It became a large city when Greeks (considered by some not to be 'Aryan') began trading with them. Then after it's fall, the Arabs moved in.

2. Evolution is true. All humans originated in South-Central Africa. The chain is something like this:
Original evolutionary humans - Northern Africans - ancient 'Arabs' - Indo-Europeans/Semites (sp.)/Far-Eastern 'Arabs', Persians, Indians (India) - Indo-Europeans/Semites (sp.)/Asians (China/Japan/Vietnam, etc.)/Native Amaricans

Sorry if you have a hard time understanding that, if someone wants I will add a diagram.

3. Jews and Arabs, as well as the ancient Egyptians, all belong to one race: the Semites (sp.), from which we derive the words "anti-semetic". "Jew" is not a race... they are in the same race as near-east Arabs and some North-East African peoples.

4. Most cultures around the world, especially some of thoes you describe at the beginning of this post, are much more advanced and respectful than American society. Being a Canadian myself, I am really in no place to comment from my own experience, but from information I've gathered, that is true.

That's all for now. Before you flame, I'm a white male (...but not Catholic. I was raised Catholic, but I gave it up for another religion, of my own creation.), age 16, who has friends from pretty much every race on this planet. We are all humans, we all came from the same place. Live with it. Get used to it. Everyone is here to stay.

Just a small afterthought, and a story a friend from another board once told...

A person [I'll assume a friend of the person who told the story] was in a class for a subject I can not remember, however one day the teacher (black) asked the class (mostly black) where they came from. He first asked all thoes who were not African-American to stand up. All the whites/Hispanics stood up except the person. Next, he asked all the African-Americans to stand up. All the blacks plus the person stood up. When the teacher inquired as to why the white boy stood up, he calmly explained that he had been born in Kenya and had lived there most of his life. He then proceded to ask the other African-American students (and the teacher, no doubt) how many of them had ever even been to Africa. All of them said they didn't. The person then stated that he was more African than any of them and sat down.

Kinda shows you how little race and skin colour really matters.
Ancients of Mu Mu
19-08-2004, 05:32
So I've noticed that there seems to be a number of folks on this forum that aren't big fans of the Jews and also think that Judaism is a race. I was wondering what these people think about non-white people.

Blacks?

Arabs?

Asians?

Latinos?

That's right. Keep picking at that old sore. :D


Jesus! :rolleyes:
Insane Troll
19-08-2004, 05:34
A person [I'll assume a friend of the person who told the story] was in a class for a subject I can not remember, however one day the teacher (black) asked the class (mostly black) where they came from. He first asked all thoes who were not African-American to stand up. All the whites/Hispanics stood up except the person. Next, he asked all the African-Americans to stand up. All the blacks plus the person stood up. When the teacher inquired as to why the white boy stood up, he calmly explained that he had been born in Kenya and had lived there most of his life. He then proceded to ask the other African-American students (and the teacher, no doubt) how many of them had ever even been to Africa. All of them said they didn't. The person then stated that he was more African than any of them and sat down.

Kinda shows you how little race and skin colour really matters.

No it doesn't, it shows that white boy is a pompous dick.
LannaN
19-08-2004, 05:44
i am non-white!!!
ASIAN PRIDE!!!
ahaha... ain't racist too.
i think it's cool that there's a diversity in NS :)
Aisetaselanau
19-08-2004, 05:54
No it doesn't, it shows that white boy is a pompous dick.

How, exactly? By proving a point that he was more African than the blacks in the room? It may be a bit over-the-top, but he's certainly not a pompous dick.
Nixonstan
19-08-2004, 06:03
I'd find it mildly entertaining that someone who believe in the superiority of whites doesn't believe in evolution, if it weren't for the fact that this person is absolutely serious (as it is, it's just sad and ironic). But I mean, it's only the most rigorously tested and proven theory in all of biological science, if not all of the emperical sciences. And, to further the irony, its creation was infact formulated by whites, if one cared to make that distinction. I mean, really, people like this just make satire obsolete.
Garaj Mahal
19-08-2004, 06:32
A person [I'll assume a friend of the person who told the story] was in a class for a subject I can not remember, however one day the teacher (black) asked the class (mostly black) where they came from. He first asked all thoes who were not African-American to stand up. All the whites/Hispanics stood up except the person. Next, he asked all the African-Americans to stand up. All the blacks plus the person stood up. When the teacher inquired as to why the white boy stood up, he calmly explained that he had been born in Kenya and had lived there most of his life. He then proceded to ask the other African-American students (and the teacher, no doubt) how many of them had ever even been to Africa. All of them said they didn't. The person then stated that he was more African than any of them and sat down.

Kinda shows you how little race and skin colour really matters.

John Kerry's wife has been saying something similar. She says that since she was born/raised/educated in Africa and then emigrated to America, that makes her an African-American.
New Bostin
19-08-2004, 06:39
The actual definition of affirmitive action doesn't say 'blacks over whites', it says 'the under represented segment of society when compared to population ratios should be given preference in situations where other qualifications are equal'. So it actually wouldn't be a problem once the 'scales are evened' as then there wouldn't be an 'under represented segment' and AA would be moot.

You assume of course that we would notice the leveling and correct the affirmative action to reflect the more balanced status, we might not. Or perhaps the minority might not want it corrected for obvious reasons and would use all their power to make sure it didn't happen. The latter seems pretty unlikely while the former would almost assuredly happen. Most likely we would not notice that the "playing field" was level until the former minority was elevated above those who were formerly above them, thus providing need to relevel and starting the entire action over again.
THE LOST PLANET
19-08-2004, 06:47
You assume of course that we would notice the leveling and correct the affirmative action to reflect the more balanced status, we might not. Or perhaps the minority might not want it corrected for obvious reasons and would use all their power to make sure it didn't happen. The latter seems pretty unlikely while the former would almost assuredly happen. Most likely we would not notice that the "playing field" was level until the former minority was elevated above those who were formerly above them, thus providing need to relevel and starting the entire action over again. :confused: :confused: WTF :confused: :confused: "Use all their power to make sure it didn't happen". What? Do you think that minorities have some hidden power that makes it so people can't count? Read the definition slowly and look up the big words if it helps. If 'minorities' were 'elevated above those who were formerly above them' then AA would work by definition in favor of the 'new' under represented segment (that would be the 'formerly above' in your rant). The wording of AA does not specify any race! When are you people gonna get that through your thick heads.
Cliara
19-08-2004, 07:06
as a mixed-race girl (half-Jewish, quarter Puerto Rican, quarter Daughter of the American Revolution) i have a question which i hope is inoffensive: isn't the term "minority" a bit of a misnomer? in some parts of the country, blacks and Latinos are the majority, but they are still called minorities. in almost all of the country, Jews are a minority, but they are never called such. same with asians, but not to as much of a degree. so doesn't the term "minority" mean less "not as many of these people" but more "underprivileged and oppressed"? what does that say about our country? this isn't a semantic quibble... i'm seriously wondering about the terminology and its bearing on those who use it.
THE LOST PLANET
19-08-2004, 07:18
as a mixed-race girl (half-Jewish, quarter Puerto Rican, quarter Daughter of the American Revolution) i have a question which i hope is inoffensive: isn't the term "minority" a bit of a misnomer? in some parts of the country, blacks and Latinos are the majority, but they are still called minorities. in almost all of the country, Jews are a minority, but they are never called such. same with asians, but not to as much of a degree. so doesn't the term "minority" mean less "not as many of these people" but more "underprivileged and oppressed"? what does that say about our country? this isn't a semantic quibble... i'm seriously wondering about the terminology and its bearing on those who use it.The terms stems from a groups percentage of the U.S. population as a whole. Judism is a religion and not recognized as an ethnicity by the U.S. census bureu. By Asian I assume you mean 'Pacific Rim' (the PC term that includes Japanese, etc), and they are a 'minority'. The term is somewhat misleading since as you note, in some areas they represent the majority. But these areas are small and refering to them as 'some parts of the country' is also misleading. A more accurate assesment would be 'in some cities and parts of cities'.
Daroth
19-08-2004, 10:43
Riiiiiight. So forget the space program, jet fighters (first created by Germany, dontcha know), rocketry, weapons of all kinds, computers, the internet....

The jet engine was made by an englishmen. he patented it in 1930
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 22:44
The jet engine was made by an englishmen. he patented it in 1930

WEll, the First Rocket was created by an American (who happens to come from the very town i come from), and an english man did invent the jet Engine, BUT, the NAzis invented Jet Fighters and Jet Airplanes. The Americas soon followed, and THEN were followed by the Brits, who were THEN followed by the japanesse.
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 22:49
1 Perhaps the Communist Manifesto?


2 Idiots? Living in a mud-hut in the unbearable heat of Kenya is preferable to the glory of Europe? Please clarify your statement.

3 Well I pretty much knew only giving the "evolutionary" version was sufficient in this thread.

4 No, it wasn't.

1. Huh?

2. When the humans that moved north first went, they were just as stupid as Africans were at the time. The First GREAT Empire, the Empire of Egypt, was founded in Northern Africa. Europeans didnt create and Empire till a few thousand years later.

3. Waht do you mean, "evolutionary Version"?

4. Yes it was. The Discover channel and the History channel both dont lie. And no, they ARENT run by Evil JEws who want to take over the world...


BTW, who tells all these people that Jews are evil?
Communist Mississippi
19-08-2004, 22:49
Kinda shows you how little race and skin colour really matters.


No, it just shows that the British used to rule Kenya. :D
The Lightning Star
19-08-2004, 22:51
No, it just shows that the British used to rule Kenya. :D

Well, your right but skin color still doesnt matter :D.
Novantus
20-08-2004, 03:34
I don't care to quote the Canadian who spoke of prejudice perhaps being an extension of the perpetual conflict between socio-economic classes (Lower vs middle vs upper) but this fellow I agree...to a point. Think of the entire thing as an onion where one layer reveals another - in this case, racism can be a top layer and beneath that would be money and financial barriers.

Think about it, money is the one common denominator between ALL conflict. It is a purveyor of all types of strife. Blacks vs whites in America or aprtheid South Africa. Native Indonesians/East Timorese vs Rich Chinese/Sino-Indonesians. Palestinians vs Zionists (this one can be widely debated). But one thing that runs through all of these examples and many others seems to be the wide and difficult financial defferences between conflicted parties. You take away the racist part of someone (yay for society) but they will then be dominated by their defference and prejudice of a different social class.

It's not to say that people nowadays don't discriminate based on colour of one's skin but just that this should be something else wew need to look at and discuss.

Having been born in Canada and being asian, I grew up in a multicultural neighbourhood/environment so racism isn't an overt thing for me. However, classism is present where we continually seeing that the richer portions of the city being favoured over poorer portions.
QahJoh
20-08-2004, 03:52
I just slump Arabs and Latinos into the same category because they look exactly the same.

On The Daily Show last week, one guy was described as being "Arab-tino".
BLARGistania
20-08-2004, 03:53
I tend to like everyone, as long as they aren't assholes or idiots.
QahJoh
20-08-2004, 03:56
According to FBI statistics:


* Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.
* Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
* Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites in 1992.
* In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
* Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
* About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
* Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
* On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
* Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
* Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
* Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
* Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
* In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.
* In the last 30 years , more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders compared to 38,000 killed in Korea and 58,000 in Vietnam.
* These statistics are forbidden to mention by the Jewish media.


In the last 50 years, the white part of the American population has declined from 90% to 72%. The U.S. now has about 33 million blacks and 25 million Hispanics (legal and illegal). By the year 2050, American whites will be a minority, just 49%. By 2100, whites will be 25% of the population. What will life for whites be like in the future?

I don't know, but maybe if you wait long enough, when you reach the magical "2-3%" of the American population, you can encroach yourself into the media, business and government, and control the country by proxy.

You can be the new Jews!

Edit: I don't suppose you can cite a *RELIABLE* source for those statistics, right?

Its challenging to always make my points in fourteen words. However, I suceed again.
(14 words)

It's sort of like a haiku, only not exactly, I'd guess you'd say.

[Wow, 14 words IS hard!]

Just a few corrections. The Jews _are_ a race, don't let the fact that you can convert to Judaism as a religion fool you.

Um, no. The second part of your sentence disproves the first.

Affirmative action when controlled can be a good thing if the scales were tipped in the first place. However, once the scales are evened and if affirmative action continues, it becomes a problem.

Personally, I'm in favor of making affirmative action aid determinate on economic need. I think that's the most fair, and would also eliminate a lot of the more BS-based arguments against affirmative action (ironically, the ones who benefit most from AA are actually women, then poor whites).
Communist Mississippi
20-08-2004, 04:45
Edit: I don't suppose you can cite a *RELIABLE* source for those statistics, right?
).


How about the Department of Justice.

http://www.amren.com/color.pdf
QahJoh
20-08-2004, 05:09
How about the Department of Justice.

http://www.amren.com/color.pdf

That doesn't link to the DOJ, but to a website called "American Renaissance", with a report written by the "New Century Foundation". I don't know who that is, but I'm pretty sure it's NOT the DoJ.

So, again... how about citing a reliable source? Instead of citing a paper written by and hosted by "racialists" that may or may not be using (or interpreting) accurate data?
THE LOST PLANET
20-08-2004, 05:15
How about the Department of Justice.

http://www.amren.com/color.pdfIf you use American Resistance or Stormfront links as your proof of any of your claims you will be laughed off this forum, their information has been discredited too often and too consistantly for anyone to take them seriously.
Teitsmania
20-08-2004, 05:22
I'm talking about ones that are left.

That is completely irrelevant.

The saying "Ignorance is Bliss" really applies in this situation! :rolleyes:
Bodies Without Organs
20-08-2004, 05:33
WEll, the First Rocket was created by an American (who happens to come from the very town i come from)

Out of interest and veering hideously off the topic of race: what do you define as a rocket (seeing as how the Chinese have been using them for over 2000 years)? and whom are you talking about here and claiming to jhave made the first rocket? Goddard and his liquid-fueled rocket?
Ellbownia
20-08-2004, 06:22
John Kerry's wife has been saying something similar. She says that since she was born/raised/educated in Africa and then emigrated to America, that makes her an African-American.

Sounds more like election year speak to me.
Felapio
20-08-2004, 06:49
I was thinking about writing this bigo text about racism. it's not worth it.
but i just want to state, that americans need cheep work force in their economy, if it wasnt for all the latinos or black people giving away their work in the US, americans wouldn't enjoy such a high life standard.
I know americans care about their race, and roots, but i know they care more about their pocket, so whats the deal with racism. If americans didnt needed "Them" they wouldn't be there. Americans would have expeled them like flies. So if you dont like black or arabs, or even hispanic, deal with it, because you actually need those people. And be really happy that you have plenty of them, that way you are still gonna be able to change your pc once a year, or get that sweet HD mp3 player.
This is not an onnion issue, just plain interest. Whats best for all, americans want cheap goods, the others want jobs. You should all be happy. Of course not those who have daddies that cant compete with the cheap hispanic wages, or even think that they get lower salaries because of them. Hispanics are known for doing a lot with less, think about how they drive in cars ( that's efficiency).
Markets have a much cleaner way of discriminating than white people, you are not efficient you disapear. So bad luck for all the white asses that think they are better. ANd if you are one, i m just as sorry for you as i am of dinosaurs, because you are about to extinct.
Finally i just want to add, that i am white and middle class. sometime you just need to look at the big pic
Loving Balance
20-08-2004, 06:56
our choices define us...not our skin color or any other physical feature...unless we let them. I have a genetically based disability and am overcoming it as we speak. Be beautiful on the inside and ignore people who don't like the way you look.
Avadria
20-08-2004, 06:58
I myself judge people on character for the most part and never collectively at a single race. I do have a problem with some black people and the general gang culture that certainly hasn't done anything very good for them (Then again who am I to comment on that). But yeah, I judge the individual not the race.

On a side note though, I do find it upsetting that no one can be proud to be white, without being called a racist (Damn the KKK and the Neo-Nazis...). Because I myself am proud to be white, only not in an extremist or racist way.

And at the same time I realize how odd this comment must be, given my region. Anyone know of a good, Dictator, Empire associated region?
Opal Isle
20-08-2004, 06:59
Here, I thought I'd clarify the confusion
The three races of human:
Caucasian (white)
Negroid (black)
Mongloid (tan, yellow, w/e)

Of these three races there are major ethnic groups- Europeans, Arabs, Jews, Asians, Africans, Latinos, etc.

The "Jewish Race" isn't a race. It is an ethnic group. You can be a Christian and be an ethnic Jew. You can be Jewish (religion) and be an ethnic Jew, however, just because you're Jewish (religion) doesn't mean you're an ethnic Jew and vice versa.
Seventh Hades
20-08-2004, 07:08
Just going back to those FBI statistics regarding black crimes, it is interesting to note that something like 97% of violent crimes in Australia are committed by men. Shall we go off on that tangent?
Azati Prime
20-08-2004, 07:09
I have no problem with any of them. Most latinos i've met are a-holes. I don't dislike them because of their ethnicity, just most are a-holes.
Opal Isle
20-08-2004, 07:12
Just going back to those FBI statistics regarding black crimes, it is interesting to note that something like 97% of violent crimes in Australia are committed by men. Shall we go off on that tangent?
I (a male) would say that men are more violent then women. Different sexes are different. It is impossible to deny that. Men tend to be stronger and more physical while women tend to be more tender and caring. There are exceptions to this, but no one can disprove what I've just stated. However, there are no such differences between races and any stats like that showing one race comitting more crimes than another can most likely be attributed to socioeconomic problems.
Seventh Hades
20-08-2004, 07:20
On a side note though, I do find it upsetting that no one can be proud to be white, without being called a racist (Damn the KKK and the Neo-Nazis...). Because I myself am proud to be white, only not in an extremist or racist way.

I am interested to know how on earth you can be proud of something that is so totally out of your control? And more importantly, what does being 'white' mean to you? Does it make you a better person? Are you more artistic/ graceful/ resourceful/ thoughtful/smart/ brave/ logical because you have a lack of pigmentation in your skin? (Note the word 'lack')

Proud of your nationality/heritage, yes, but skin colour? Please.
Seventh Hades
20-08-2004, 07:26
I have no problem with any of them. Most latinos i've met are a-holes. I don't dislike them because of their ethnicity, just most are a-holes.

Ahhh, that would be because of the A-Hole gene, found evenly spread through all cultures and nationalities, regardless of race, creed, colour, sex or religion.

The A-Hole gene is latent in most normal people however can sometimes be triggered by the consumption of alcohol.

This is a universal truth.
Avadria
20-08-2004, 07:30
Not so much my skin color, I suppose just the accomplishments that 'white' people have done and what we have given to society (of course we have also taken things away). I also ask the simple question of why should black pride groups be proud of their abundance of pigment?
Goed
20-08-2004, 07:49
Blacks? Go back to Africa.
Arabs? Stay where you are.
Asians? Ditto.
Latinos? Go back to Mexico and Guatemala and Honduras or whatever third world hell-hole you came from. Just get lost.

And Jews? They are not white, not fit to be called white, and should all be deported to their real home, Israel. Which could then hopefully be wiped out by a small nuclear device set off by some extremist muslim group and that wouldn't spread too much radiation over the rest of the region. ;)

Whites- go back to Europe
Native Americans-cheer and celebrate,-those stealing bastards are finally gone!
Seventh Hades
20-08-2004, 07:52
Not so much my skin color, I suppose just the accomplishments that 'white' people have done and what we have given to society (of course we have also taken things away). I also ask the simple question of why should black pride groups be proud of their abundance of pigment?

Yes. We whites should be proud of wiping out whole cultures of belligerant savages with our religion and alochol and supremist attitudes.

I have no idea of 'black pride groups' as I'm in Australia and our indigenous culture, the aboriginals, make up for less than 1% of the total population. They too have been debased and defiled and degraded because of the white invasion.

why dont we start a list of non-white accomplishments? Shall we take a look at the ancient Mayans/Aztecs/Egyptians/Chinese/Greeks for inspiration?

I would be interested to understand your definition of 'white'. White American perhaps? English white maybe?
Azati Prime
20-08-2004, 07:59
Ahhh, that would be because of the A-Hole gene, found evenly spread through all cultures and nationalities, regardless of race, creed, colour, sex or religion.

The A-Hole gene is latent in most normal people however can sometimes be triggered by the consumption of alcohol.

This is a universal truth.

I agree that every race has their a-holes, at my school i know of about 5 a-hole asians (5% of the asian population), while about 90% of the latino population are a-holes.
Harlesburg
20-08-2004, 08:01
Funny, that is the same way I feel about supremecists: Not in my country.

(14 words btw)
funny spamers vs supremecists what is the greater of two evils?
Seventh Hades
20-08-2004, 08:02
I suppose what I'm trying to say is why be proud of a colour? It is in the end, a pigment issue, which stands for nothing because 1mm underneath the skin is the same stuff that everyone has.
Be proud of you, your accomplishments, your family, your nation. But pride shouldn't be based on pigmentation. It is a false pride.
Communist Mississippi
20-08-2004, 08:04
Yes. We whites should be proud of wiping out whole cultures of belligerant savages with our religion and alochol and supremist attitudes.

I have no idea of 'black pride groups' as I'm in Australia and our indigenous culture, the aboriginals, make up for less than 1% of the total population. They too have been debased and defiled and degraded because of the white invasion.

why dont we start a list of non-white accomplishments? Shall we take a look at the ancient Mayans/Aztecs/Egyptians/Chinese/Greeks for inspiration?

I would be interested to understand your definition of 'white'. White American perhaps? English white maybe?


Egyptians and Greeks were white! Just because Egypt is an arab land today, it used to be white! I mean there are whites in the USA, but it used to be a native indian land.

http://www.white-history.com/

http://www.white-history.com/hwr8.htm





As for the Mayans and Aztecs, we can take a look, yes, because it is commonly accepted they were non-white.


http://www.white-history.com/hwr48.htm

Chapter 48 : Conquistadors -Whites in South and Central America


The White conquest of South and Central America is a tale of extreme high drama, with a very few White adventurers completely overwhelming millions of Amerinds through a combination of crushing technological superiority and brute force.

The White conquest of South and Central America also saw two significant population makeup changes: firstly, large numbers of White settlers (mainly from Spain and Portugal) intermarried with Amerinds, creating a new mixed race group which now dominates the entire region. This is the primary cause of the large social, economic and political gap between North and South America.

Secondly, the racial mixing which did take place absorbed the original ruling Amerind tribes in Central America (the Aztecs) and in South America (the Incas).

The disappearance of these two leading tribes meant the disappearance of their civilizations as well: perfect examples of how racial mixing can wipe out all traces of an original people - and consequently, all manifestations of their civilization. In this case it was a non-White civilization -and an advanced one at that - which was destroyed by the integration process. The laws of nature in this regard are made of iron, and apply to all races equally.



As for the Chinese, their civilization was built for them by Aryans from northern India.
Goed
20-08-2004, 08:08
Egyptians and Greeks were white! Just because Egypt is an arab land today, it used to be white! I mean there are whites in the USA, but it used to be a native indian land.

http://www.white-history.com/

http://www.white-history.com/hwr8.htm





As for the Mayans and Aztecs, we can take a look, yes, because it is commonly accepted they were non-white.


http://www.white-history.com/hwr48.htm

Chapter 48 : Conquistadors -Whites in South and Central America


The White conquest of South and Central America is a tale of extreme high drama, with a very few White adventurers completely overwhelming millions of Amerinds through a combination of crushing technological superiority and brute force.

The White conquest of South and Central America also saw two significant population makeup changes: firstly, large numbers of White settlers (mainly from Spain and Portugal) intermarried with Amerinds, creating a new mixed race group which now dominates the entire region. This is the primary cause of the large social, economic and political gap between North and South America.

Secondly, the racial mixing which did take place absorbed the original ruling Amerind tribes in Central America (the Aztecs) and in South America (the Incas).

The disappearance of these two leading tribes meant the disappearance of their civilizations as well: perfect examples of how racial mixing can wipe out all traces of an original people - and consequently, all manifestations of their civilization. In this case it was a non-White civilization -and an advanced one at that - which was destroyed by the integration process. The laws of nature in this regard are made of iron, and apply to all races equally.



As for the Chinese, their civilization was built for them by Aryans from northern India.


Name a source that isn't something like "white-power.com." Really, you should be brighter then that.

And, just for shits and giggles, lets see if you can show us proof that what you put was real.
Danarkadia
20-08-2004, 08:12
I'm half Arab and half Scandinavian by ethnicity. If we want to go by nationality, I'm an American.

My solution: Everyone screw until we're all one color. We'll be better off and much happier. Besides, it's evolutionarily more advantagous to draw from as wide a gene pool as possible. Therefore, I urge everyone to go home tonight and do their duty to humanity: have sex with as many people from as many different background as possible!
Zaikuu
20-08-2004, 08:17
I still find it amusing that people insist Jews can't be white.

I'm white and Jewish, thankyouverymuch.
Aberwild
20-08-2004, 08:17
WOOHOO! :)
undermining racism and the evils of society by having sex....make love, not ethnic wars...i like it, i like it a lot
:fluffle:

Why do these message boards specifically attrack an incredible concentration of extrememly racist homophobes, more than any other place, in reality or online, that I've ever been. Or maybe its just because they can show their true inner hatred online with no real-life reprecussions.

Its ashame conversations like this are even being had in this day in age. :(
Decisive Action
20-08-2004, 08:19
I still find it amusing that people insist Jews can't be white.

I'm white and Jewish, thankyouverymuch.


Jews are Khazars.
Zaikuu
20-08-2004, 08:23
Jews are Khazars.

http://www.imninalu.net/Khazars.htm

We are?
Goed
20-08-2004, 08:28
Ugly, ugly, ugly. You want to turn the whole population into brown-skinned clones who lose all sense of race, ethnicity, and national loyalty. What language do you want them to speak? Urdu?

This person's post is a good example of why the races or even the ethnicities should generally not mix. Because they want to turn everyone else into themselves. Into rootless cosmopolitans.

Hey, nothing wrong with being browned skinned. There are a lot of very fine women who's skin is brown.

Secondly, I have a word for you to learn. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=joke

Thirdly, I really have no clue what you're saying in your second paragraph.
Aberwild
20-08-2004, 08:29
diversity is people - is ideas, beliefs, values, experiences.....if everyone was the same color, its just one less thing to judge by, and would let everyone be taken for what they were, not for the stereotypes existing of their race would suggest.

:fluffle: ...therefore still advocating lots of sex....c'mon, even Nazis can't argue with a good lay.... :D
Aberwild
20-08-2004, 08:30
and plus, genetics would allow that we dont all turn the exact same shade of medium brown, but variations of it.
Harlesburg
20-08-2004, 08:31
So...you're going to discount all the available evidence because it doesn't suit your beliefs? And by the way, Africa was once mighty indeed. The Egyptians were Africans. So were the Somalis. Mogadishu was once a fabulously wealthy, powerful and advanced city. And what of Nubia, ocne a cradle of civilisation?
Its more about culture Egypt seems more cultured than the nubians Zimbabawe was a civilized place. i guess some fell that bankers and insurance salesmen are more important than herds men and hunters they all play a part in their societies it doesnt make them wrong!
The Aryan Greeks
20-08-2004, 08:37
I still find it amusing that people insist Jews can't be white.

I'm white and Jewish, thankyouverymuch.


Jews are causcasian, but not pure white like the indo-european 'aryans'
The Aryan Greeks
20-08-2004, 08:42
So I've noticed that there seems to be a number of folks on this forum that aren't big fans of the Jews and also think that Judaism is a race. I was wondering what these people think about non-white people.

Blacks?

Arabs?

Asians?

Latinos?


Blacks?? Take your rap music and your crime statistic and go back to where you came from
Arabs? Terrorists that rape our legal systems as well as mug inoccent people.
Asians? some are okay.
Latinos? don't have anything against them

regards, :D
Aberwild
20-08-2004, 08:45
Crime statistics are from POVERTY, and more blacks in this country (US) are impoverished than whites. Senseless violence is not inherent in the genetic makeup of an African-American. Wow...this is incredible. How many people have already said that?
Poor Dental Hygeine
20-08-2004, 08:45
I think that there is only one race, the human race. :fluffle:
Aberwild
20-08-2004, 08:47
with all this useless bickering amongst humans, there will probably eventually be no human race left, and the earth will be a helluva lot more peaceful :headbang:
Decisive Action
20-08-2004, 08:48
I think that there is only one race, the human race.


Human is a species, not a race... Get over it.
Aberwild
20-08-2004, 08:50
And because we can genetically mate with those outside our race and produce fertile offspring, unlike horse and donkeys to mules or lions and tigers to whatever the heck, it is symbolic of a core similarity beneath exterior differences. Yes, we are all human.
Decisive Action
20-08-2004, 08:51
And because we can genetically mate with those outside our race and produce fertile offspring, unlike horse and donkeys to mules or lions and tigers to whatever the heck, it is symbolic of a core similarity beneath exterior differences. Yes, we are all human.


We're pretty similar to chimpanzees, if you wanted to, you could probably get one of them to bend over for you. But I don't know why on Earth you'd want that.
Aberwild
20-08-2004, 08:55
so now youre putting non-Aryans on the same level with chimps? that is very educated of you. you're a sweetie, ya know that?

;)
Lunatic Goofballs
20-08-2004, 08:57
What can I say? All the above mentioned races produce excellent comedians.

Black comedians, Jewish Comedians, White Comedians, Latino Comedians.

I only have two questions;

Is Margaret Cho the best the asian community can produce?!? How sad! C'mon, asians! Step up your comedy!

And when is the last time you saw an arab comedian? Forget winning hearts and minds.... we need to teach these people some stand-up!
Lunatic Goofballs
20-08-2004, 08:58
A mutt is a mutt. Whether it's a dog or a human being. It's not a pedigree and thus it has less value. Why screw up more than 40,000 years of human evolution to produce a mutt? That's a betrayal of all your ancestors, of all the efforts they made to keep the race pure. It's a shame. It happens, but it's a shame.

Actually, mutts tend to be healthier animals with fewer birth defects.
Aberwild
20-08-2004, 08:58
pure breeds have more monetary value, thats all. my doberman/husky mutt is incredibly intelligent, well trained and healthy (mutt dogs are actually healthier due to less inbreeding). as individual animals, they are equal in character and utility.

and please tell me youre not putting monetary value on human heads. but i forgot, non-aryans arent human to you, to you its no different than putting a price on a chimp.
Decisive Action
20-08-2004, 08:59
Actually, mutts tend to be healthier animals with fewer birth defects.


Emotionally they are very, just plain wrong! They are restless and have issues.
Decisive Action
20-08-2004, 09:01
Man, it's late here. All I can say in response, because I'm so verrrrrry tired, is "Heil Hitler!!!!!" I'm a fascist and I'm a proud fascist and this fascist needs some sleep. C'ya!!!


White on!
Aberwild
20-08-2004, 09:02
im beginning to think that these 'Nazis' are just bored 15 year old boys at computers with no political affiliations and nothing to do who go online and pretend to be white-supremecists to piss off us easily-aggravated, pc liberals just for fun by saying outrageous things.

the other part of me that acknowledges this stain on humanity wants to reach for the Gain.
Lunatic Goofballs
20-08-2004, 09:02
Emotionally they are very, just plain wrong! They are restless and have issues.

I'm a mutt, and I'm very well adjusted. Don't listen to those guys in the white coats. They have a quota to meet. I'm really perfectly fine. :D
Aberwild
20-08-2004, 09:03
and s/he never responded to my 'price on human heads'....i hate not being responded to *pouts* :(
Decisive Action
20-08-2004, 09:06
im beginning to think that these 'Nazis' are just bored 15 year old boys at computers with no political affiliations and nothing to do who go online and pretend to be white-supremecists to piss off us easily-aggravated, pc liberals just for fun by saying outrageous things.

the other part of me that acknowledges this stain on humanity wants to reach for the Gain.


Nah, I got better things to do, but the shooting range closes early basically every week day except Tuesday.


So when the day is done, there is nothing much to do... So I guess you could say I've nothing better to do... Ah hell, I'm going to go finish reading a good book, better than talking to you PC marxists.

Oh, the 15 year old boy part, really nice, we're all just too young to realize the error of our ways and start bowing down at the altar of Multiracialism and reading from the holy book of Egalitarian dogma that is the new religion of these Jewnited States.
Aberwild
20-08-2004, 09:09
ok whatever im tired too, im sick of talking to a white cement wall. :headbang:

and i think theres a place in hell/netherworld of your choice for white supremecists right next to people who kick puppies....even if they're mutt puppies :mad:

:gundge:


:confused: :mp5: :sniper:
Decisive Action
20-08-2004, 09:11
ok whatever im tired too, im sick of talking to a white cement wall. :headbang:

and i think theres a place in hell/netherworld of your choice for white supremecists right next to people who kick puppies....even if they're mutt puppies :mad:

:gundge:


:confused: :mp5: :sniper:


Yahweh will exalt all of His people into paradise! We are true Israelites!

The white race is the house of Jacob Israel!
Aberwild
20-08-2004, 09:14
so you are 15? just curious. im not being agist, just using it as an adjective
West Donovania
20-08-2004, 09:16
I'm not white, I'm kind of peachy-tan. One of my daughters is a pretty, creamy peach and the other has beautiful bisque porcelain skin. My husband is too covered with freckles to tell what his skin color might be LOL. One of our best friends is a beautiful mocha and his wife is a lovely cafe au'lait with a bit of extra cream.

My point? There is no such thing as black and white. When my daughters ask me what color someone is, I tell them exactly what color I see.

To quote a movie: "God must be a painter, otherwise why would we have so many colors."

Feel free to flame me, I like it warm.
Decisive Action
20-08-2004, 09:18
so you are 15? just curious. im not being agist, just using it as an adjective


No I am not 15... I am considerably older than 15... But to be honest, my exact age is "none of your damn business", neither is my location, name, etc. Personal information is for me to know, and the ATF to have to work to find out.
Aberwild
20-08-2004, 09:20
i was just wondering, because you were defending that year as if you were one of its own. you say 15 is untainted but its also unlearned...i would know...i am 15. (well, 16 shortly)
Regnat Populus
20-08-2004, 09:20
Funny, that is the same way I feel about supremecists: Not in my country.

(14 words btw)


*applause*
my sentiments EXACTLY!!!!
Lunatic Goofballs
20-08-2004, 09:23
I'm a racist's worst nightmare:

A christian half-hispanic half-white professional clown with a degree in physics. :D
Decisive Action
20-08-2004, 09:24
i was just wondering, because you were defending that year as if you were one of its own. you say 15 is untainted but its also unlearned...i would know...i am 15. (well, 16 shortly)


No, no... I am much older than 15. :)

It's just that the antis often try to insult the white youth by telling them "you're just young and stupid, confused!" funny how they try to get confused white youth to experiment with drugs, fornicate, gay sexual acts... I know all their tricks and temptations, I rejected them daily in the years of my youth.
Decisive Action
20-08-2004, 09:24
I'm a racist's worst nightmare:

A half-hispanic half-white professional clown with a degree in physics. :D


If you're serious (doubtful) but if you really do have a degree in physics, and it isn't an affirmative action degree, then good job. :D Congratulations. Physics is not an easy subject. :)
Chilombisuecia
20-08-2004, 09:25
I just slump Arabs and Latinos into the same category because they look exactly the same.

Charming indeed. Sigh... the ignorance of some people.

1. They don't look the same at all
2. There are "white" latinos AND Arabs, some have lighter skin tone than others
3. None of them are less worth than Caucasians

If you knew where the original Aryans came from you'd be surprised. Bigot!
Lunatic Goofballs
20-08-2004, 09:25
No, no... I am much older than 15. :)

It's just that the antis often try to insult the white youth by telling them "you're just young and stupid, confused!" funny how they try to get confused white youth to experiment with drugs, fornicate, gay sexual acts... I know all their tricks and temptations, I rejected them daily in the years of my youth.

That would explain why you're so uptight. You need to fornicate, man! Fornicate like it's going out of style!
THE LOST PLANET
20-08-2004, 09:28
A mutt is a mutt. Whether it's a dog or a human being. It's not a pedigree and thus it has less value. Why screw up more than 40,000 years of human evolution to produce a mutt? That's a betrayal of all your ancestors, of all the efforts they made to keep the race pure. It's a shame. It happens, but it's a shame.'Breeds' are a construct of mankind and not part of any supreme beings plan. You abritrarily decide something is 'pure' and waste percious energy and resources in trying to keep it that way when the species would be better served with a little more genetic matter in the mix. A pedigree is simply a record of lineage, it in itself adds no value. I strongly suspect you have nothing of value to add to society as an individual so you fall back on an accident of birth to try and give your self esteem a boost. When you go to the well you still come back empty.
Decisive Action
20-08-2004, 09:29
That would explain why you're so uptight. You need to fornicate, man! Fornicate like it's going out of style!


I always knew sex belongs in marriage, I intend to keep it thus. That's just my two cents.
Lunatic Goofballs
20-08-2004, 09:38
If you're serious (doubtful) but if you really do have a degree in physics, and it isn't an affirmative action degree, then good job. :D Congratulations. Physics is not an easy subject. :)

It was for me. My mother had a very hard time of things. Raising two children on her own without a husband(he left when I was six months old, forcing her to divorce in absentia) wasn't easy. In a culture and time when welfare is a trap for the unwary, it's even harder. What my mother had was a will of iron. She chose to work, even though it meant LESS money than welfare. SHe was a shipfitter at Electric Boat in the seventies. One of only two women on an all male crew. She poured concrete reactor walls on nuclear subs.

When she saved enough money, she went to a local business trade school and picked up clerical skills to get an office job. She chose new jobs as they came along infrequently, but with an eye for growth. First, at a bank, then at Northeast Utilities.

She now owns her own house and recently got her Bachelor's degree.

All that, from a high-school dropout. ANd she has the nerve to call her children 'smarter' than her!

She insisted that everything she was weak at, her children would be strong at. This led to a few mistakes and regrets. For instance, I never learned spanish growing up. English gave her trouble, so she taught me nothing but english. She regrets not teaching me both. She had trouble with math...

...so math became my second language. I was doing Algebra by fifth grade. Calculus in my freshman year of high school. With that kind of backing in math, Physics is not much more difficult.

The irony is this: I want to be a novelist. Hehehe.
Slovyania
20-08-2004, 09:40
Im 1/4 jewish 3/4 slavic russian nationality and i dont really care about different race in that I dont see those 3 whites 2 blacks and a latino on the street. I see 6 people.
THE LOST PLANET
20-08-2004, 09:54
If you're serious (doubtful) but if you really do have a degree in physics, and it isn't an affirmative action degree, then good job. :D Congratulations. Physics is not an easy subject. :)There is no such thing as 'An Afirmative Action Degree' and you only betray your bias and bigotry by stating such things. While AA might give minorities a better chance at getting into college it is in no stretch of the imagination applied to passing courses or earning a degree. People such as you always blame AA for a miriad of problems but I bet you can't even provide us with a correct definition of just what Affirmative Action is and where it is applied.
Scarlet Water
20-08-2004, 10:07
Why cant people realise that WE ARE ALL EQUAL! it dont matter 'bout skin colour or race and you people who actually care bout peoples skin colour must be crazy rember martin luther king? he wanted equality. rember Hitler? he didn't...and looked what happened. if we dont learn from the past we will make the smae mistakes over and over again. dont let that happen.
Cyberous
20-08-2004, 11:57
Why cant people realise that WE ARE ALL EQUAL!

Apparently some people are more equal than others...
Sskiss
20-08-2004, 12:27
As far as I'm concerned, as an evolutionary biologist and all 'round "digger", God, the fates or whatever the hell you want to call it dropped a great big ol' rock on the wrong group of animals! :D

And they were far more worthy of the stewardship of this planet.
Almighty Kerenor
20-08-2004, 12:32
I never really cared about that, coming to think about it.
Who does? Let people be whatever they want, you can't change their color or origin, can you?
The Lightning Star
20-08-2004, 22:35
Out of interest and veering hideously off the topic of race: what do you define as a rocket (seeing as how the Chinese have been using them for over 2000 years)? and whom are you talking about here and claiming to jhave made the first rocket? Goddard and his liquid-fueled rocket?

Sorry, i forgoted the Chinese :eek: I am so ashamed :(

And yes, im talking about goddard :D! He DID invent the firs tliquid fueled rocket. Its on the Time 100 list, the History Channel, Discoverey Channel, PBS, *goes on siting all the sources* Oh, and there are like 50000000000 monuments to him in the town im from! REally! They even have a PLAYGROUND named after it. Of course its called "Rocketland" instead of "Goddardland" but who cares :D.