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What will cause the next American civil war, if there is one?

I think there'd be too many factors to say that any one thing caused it. It'd probably have to have an economic slump, a huge political divide, some civil rights disagreement big anough to have people at each others throats, and a leader charismatic enough for people to folllow and yet loony enough for him to want war.

Wait....don't we have most of that right now?

Actually, it will be a civil war between Islam and the rest of America.
Many blacks are part of Nation of islam and I fear they will join Ialamic peoples side.
So it will sorta be black versus white but not African black but Arab black.

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Military analyst Tom Chittum has the guts to take a no-nonsense factual look at what more and more Americans have been thinking. He examines political, economic and demographic trends to conclude that America is headed toward either becoming an imperialistic police stat in which there is little or no freedom or - more likely - collapsing into another civil war: Civil War II. This civil war will break America apart geographically, primarily along racial lines.

Author Tom Chittum won't leave you swimming in vague generalizations. He pinpoints the factors driving the breakup. He provides you with detailed maps which show how the country will likely be split, and who will be controlling what parts. He explains what areas of the country are likely to become hot spots, and why - again providing maps. He examines the timetable for Civil War II, explaining when it is likely to happen and why it will happen when it does. And he gives his readers solid advice on what to do to prepare and how to avoid a personal tragedy in the war. This book is a must for anyone concerned about the direction our country is headed in.

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Actually, it will be a civil war between Islam and the rest of America.
Many blacks are part of Nation of islam and I fear they will join Ialamic peoples side.
So it will sorta be black versus white but not African black but Arab black.



I think the spread of radical islam and the "Islamization" of the USA and Europe could very well be one of the greatest problems that we will be leaving for our children to deal with.

The West used to go to war to keep these people out, and now we're letting them in by the boatload.

Remember the battle of Tours in 732, with the great Charles Martel defending France? Now France is 10-12% Arab. Will the French ever rise up again? Or will the great nation and the city of lights be doomed to mediocrity when French France is submerged and eclipsed by Arab France.


Remember the battle of Grenada in 1492 when the brave Spanish drove the moors out once and for all. Well it was not for all. Will the brave Spanish ever rise up and take back what is theirs?


Remember Vienna 1683 when the brave Polish and Austrian army saved Europe from Tartar invasion. Now Germany and much of Central Europe is 10-15% Tartar. Will the Germans and Austrians ever rise up and take back what is theirs?


Remember in 1453 when the beloved Rome of the East fell? Will we just sit by and let more cities fall?


When will we draw the line?

When will we say, "This has gone on for far too long! Enough is enough!"

When will the white flight end, and whites stop being cowards, and instead dig their heels in and defend their land. I've always said, there are millions of people who are willing to fight to take our land from us. If we're not willing to fight to defend it, we automatically lose.


What really sickens me, is with the arabs, you attack one of them, they all rally around to his defense. With the whites, you attack one, the others shrug and say, "At least I'm still alive, it wasn't me", and then walk away. Whites are being bred to be cowards and the Christian religion is being turned into one of a "Crusader" spirit, into the "Let the enemy kill you" sheep to the slaughter mentality.

While the arabs gain strength from their religion, Christians are being brainwashed to become weak because of theirs.

I don't see the connection between the nation of Islam and radical Islam. Aren't they radical on both ends of the spectrum?

I don't see the connection between the nation of Islam and radical Islam. Aren't they radical on both ends of the spectrum?
I said I fear they will out of weird loyalty help them, but hopefully they won't.

You guys are forgetting an important factor: geography.

There could be two types of civil wars. One like most countries have in which a group tries taking over the already existing nation, or one like our country has had in the past were part of the nations attempt to seceed from the union. If we have the second time, there would have to be a geographical connection to the rebellers as well as all the other situations that have been mentioned.

Good points are being made.

As for Muslims, they are the fastest growing population of people ever. Muslims make 5 to 22 times more children than other people! Anytime in history where Muslims became the majority, they claimed all the land belonged to them and declared jihad (holocaust of non-muslims). As Muslims infiltrate Europe in large numbers, there is a rising tide of political correctness towards Islam and anti-semitism.

In Britain Muslims want to make strict "hate crime" laws that practically make criticizing their religion legal discrimination. In France, Muslim gangs are physically assualting jews in the street while the French do nothing. Remember, anytime in history Muslims became the majority or near majority in a non-muslim country, they declared a bloody jihad on the "infidels." Historically, Muslims have never lived "peacefully" side by side with non-muslims. The muslim population is burgeoning rapidly and the same goes for muslim immigration into Western countries.

It is clearly unsafe to allow the muslims to intergrate into our society totally unsupervised. The next civil war may also be political. If this country doesn't get it's act together soon, America will dissolve.

By the way, radical Muslims don't want America, so there will not be a civil war involving them (unless they're just choosing a side). The other Muslims come here for the freedoms...

It is clearly unsafe to allow the muslims to intergrate into our society totally unsupervised. The next civil war may also be political. If this country doesn't get it's act together soon, America will dissolve.


Unsafe? It's outright suicide to allow the muslims in to begin with! Sink the boats, mine the coasts! For God sakes do something! Europe is drowning beneath a sea of dark! And if this keeps up, when they declare Jihad, Europe will drown in a sea of blood.

White Revolution in response to threats of Mohammedan shari'a law and Jewish control over the media and people's daily lives. Not to mention the rising black crime. It would be tough since they breed like roaches now but eventually the West shall be purged of the mud.

By the way, radical Muslims don't want America, so there will not be a civil war involving them (unless they're just choosing a side). The other Muslims come here for the freedoms...

Are you kidding? They want to turn America and Europe into Islamic countries. Islam wants the world just as the Palestinians want ALL of Israel, not part of it.

Can we stop the KKK-esque comments? It is absurd to think that non-radical Muslims are coming here to take us over....

But back to what I think will cause the next American civil war: the Cubs losing the World Series to the New York Yankees.

It's more realistic than a Muslim uprising.

Are you kidding? They want to turn America and Europe into Islamic countries. Islam wants the world just as the Palestinians want ALL of Israel, not part of it.
So did Hitler.

It's not an exclusively Muslims thing. Also, it isn't all Muslims--only the extremists. Stop being racist. Until they move in with a military or something, we have no right to act.

And by the way, this Muslim thing is kind of off topic. If they're invading from over there, it's not a civil war.

Written by a veteran of the Vietnam, Rhodesian, and Croatian wars. He is now a military analyst and an expert on recognizing the factors that make nations ripe for civil-wars.





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Civil War II
by Thomas W. Chittum
ISBN 0-929408-17-9
208 pages, paperback $12.95


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Military analyst Tom Chittum has the guts to take a no-nonsense factual look at what more and more Americans have been thinking. He examines political, economic and demographic trends to conclude that America is headed toward either becoming an imperialistic police stat in which there is little or no freedom or - more likely - collapsing into another civil war: Civil War II. This civil war will break America apart geographically, primarily along racial lines.

Author Tom Chittum won't leave you swimming in vague generalizations. He pinpoints the factors driving the breakup. He provides you with detailed maps which show how the country will likely be split, and who will be controlling what parts. He explains what areas of the country are likely to become hot spots, and why - again providing maps. He examines the timetable for Civil War II, explaining when it is likely to happen and why it will happen when it does. And he gives his readers solid advice on what to do to prepare and how to avoid a personal tragedy in the war. This book is a must for anyone concerned about the direction our country is headed in.

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Civil War II
by Thomas W. Chittum
ISBN 0-929408-17-9
208 pages, paperback $12.95


I've read that book, very scary, and very prophetic. Time will show us!

So did Hitler.

It's not an exclusively Muslims thing. Also, it isn't all Muslims--only the extremists. Stop being racist. Until they move in with a military or something, we have no right to act.

The Jury is still out on Hitler. He mostly wanted to renew the Holy Roman Empire in Europe, then everyone else started getting in his business.

Islam is not a race. I am not racist.

You are naive if you think that the Islamic take over of America and Europe willl be done with a military. That's why they're the enemy within. They don't use conventional means of warfare, they use children and pregnant women to carry bombs.

The "prophet" Mohammad went through the Middle East and Africa slaughtering "infidels" and forcing conversions. How is that any different that what they are doing today? Saying we have no right to act carries the same suicidal results as saying we have no right to defend ourselves.

If there is anything that will aid the muslims in their Islamification of America it's the Liberalization of America.

The Jury is still out on Hitler. He mostly wanted to renew the Holy Roman Empire in Europe, then everyone else started getting in his business.

Islam is not a race. I am not racist.

You are naive if you think that the Islamic take over of America and Europe willl be done with a military. That's why they're the enemy within. They don't use conventional means of warfare, they use children and pregnant women to carry bombs.

The "prophet" Mohammad went through the Middle East and Africa slaughtering "infidels" and forcing conversions. How is that any different that what they are doing today? Saying we have no right to act carries the same suicidal results as saying we have no right to defend ourselves.

If there is anything that will aid the muslims in their Islamification of America it's the Liberalization of America.
Whoa dude...you should probably stop posting immediately before some Moslem reads this thread and gets really pissed at you and calls a mod on you...

The Jury is still out on Hitler. He mostly wanted to renew the Holy Roman Empire in Europe, then everyone else started getting in his business.

Islam is not a race. I am not racist.

You are naive if you think that the Islamic take over of America and Europe willl be done with a military. That's why they're the enemy within. They don't use conventional means of warfare, they use children and pregnant women to carry bombs.

The "prophet" Mohammad went through the Middle East and Africa slaughtering "infidels" and forcing conversions. How is that any different that what they are doing today? Saying we have no right to act carrys the same suicidal results as saying we have no right to defend ourselves.

If there is anything that will aid the muslims in their Islamification of America it's the Liberalization of America.

Oh yes because civil rights are right up Muslim countries alleys.
Seeing as Liberals keep civil rights safe, you should be liking them.
Maybe some fringe groups will do that but as a majority liberals are not doing that thing you are talking about.

I think the spread of radical islam and the "Islamization" of the USA and Europe could very well be one of the greatest problems that we will be leaving for our children to deal with.

The West used to go to war to keep these people out, and now we're letting them in by the boatload.

Remember the battle of Tours in 732, with the great Charles Martel defending France? Now France is 10-12% Arab. Will the French ever rise up again? Or will the great nation and the city of lights be doomed to mediocrity when French France is submerged and eclipsed by Arab France.


Remember the battle of Grenada in 1492 when the brave Spanish drove the moors out once and for all. Well it was not for all. Will the brave Spanish ever rise up and take back what is theirs?


Remember Vienna 1683 when the brave Polish and Austrian army saved Europe from Tartar invasion. Now Germany and much of Central Europe is 10-15% Tartar. Will the Germans and Austrians ever rise up and take back what is theirs?


Remember in 1453 when the beloved Rome of the East fell? Will we just sit by and let more cities fall?


When will we draw the line?

When will we say, "This has gone on for far too long! Enough is enough!"

When will the white flight end, and whites stop being cowards, and instead dig their heels in and defend their land. I've always said, there are millions of people who are willing to fight to take our land from us. If we're not willing to fight to defend it, we automatically lose.


What really sickens me, is with the arabs, you attack one of them, they all rally around to his defense. With the whites, you attack one, the others shrug and say, "At least I'm still alive, it wasn't me", and then walk away. Whites are being bred to be cowards and the Christian religion is being turned into one of a "Crusader" spirit, into the "Let the enemy kill you" sheep to the slaughter mentality.

While the arabs gain strength from their religion, Christians are being brainwashed to become weak because of theirs.

Do you realize that not all "whites" in the united states aren't Christian? The ones I know are all ready for war, and there are many christians I know ready to beat anyone down who questions their religion. What you're talking about is tolerance, not cowardice. People will eventually forget their reasons for why they were intolerant of another people, yet you want us to be separate again? I think that if we were to all unite under any simple thing we would all see how irrelevant everything else was. These "Tarts" were pushed out because of intolerance, not because there was a "Crusader" feeling. Do you know that a cavalry of Christians killed/murdered/plundered/cannabolized another group in mistake during the crusades? Is that what you desire? More death, more segragation, more intolerance and violence? Whose to say that people won't kill you for your intolerance? What's to say you have a right to demand segragation and be tolerated, people have learned to reason and found true justice in their actions, if you went and killed a group of people then you are just like all of the dictators who were intolerant: Sadam, Osama, Hitler, and the others who sought power and rule over the masses of diverse people.

Do you realize that not all "whites" in the united states aren't Christian? The ones I know are all ready for war, and there are many christians I know ready to beat anyone down who questions their religion. What you're talking about is tolerance, not cowardice. People will eventually forget their reasons for why they were intolerant of another people, yet you want us to be separate again? I think that if we were to all unite under any simple thing we would all see how irrelevant everything else was. These "Tarts" were pushed out because of intolerance, not because there was a "Crusader" feeling. Do you know that a cavalry of Christians killed/murdered/plundered/cannabolized another group in mistake during the crusades? Is that what you desire? More death, more segragation, more intolerance and violence? Whose to say that people won't kill you for your intolerance? What's to say you have a right to demand segragation and be tolerated, people have learned to reason and found true justice in their actions, if you went and killed a group of people then you are just like all of the dictators who were intolerant: Sadam, Osama, Hitler, and the others who sought power and rule over the masses of diverse people.


We will fight so our children may live in a land worth living in. Not a land run by marxist swine and their masonic friends. Not a world in which the UN is the supreme overlord ruling over the peasants, the peasants will be the white working class. We fight for our people, the most down-trodden of our people, those who are homeless do to job outsourcing or immigrants stealing their jobs. We are fighting so that corrupt CEOS such as the Enron and World Com, are brought to justice, and the Donald Trumps of the world can no longer declare bankruptcy and keep their personal assets, while billions in debt to other people. Those companies then fold and the workers are screwed.

This will be a movement for the white working class against the cabal of mason-zionism, and zionist finance capitalism, combined with the marxist radicals.

White Revolution in response to threats of Mohammedan shari'a law and Jewish control over the media and people's daily lives. Not to mention the rising black crime. It would be tough since they breed like roaches now but eventually the West shall be purged of the mud.

Actually, if you ask me, it's time to stop white people. I mean, they only make like 10% of the world population and look how they treat all others. Look at America, it used to be all red, but the filthy whites came ridden with disease and started to kill everyone, soon they declared the land as theirs.

It's time to send them back to the steppes in Central Asia where they belong. And if it takes Islam to do it, or finally the black and yellow peoples to wise up, then so be it.

Actually, if you ask me, it's time to stop white people. I mean, they only make like 10% of the world population and look how they treat all others. Look at America, it used to be all red, but the filthy whites came ridden with disease and started to kill everyone, soon they declared the land as theirs.

It's time to send them back to the steppes in Central Asia where they belong. And if it takes Islam to do it, or finally the black and yellow peoples to wise up, then so be it.


Whites used to be 33% of the world's population.

Read the book:


The Rising Tide of Color Against White World-Supremacy
by
Lothrop Stoddard, A.M., Ph.D. (Harvard)
Author of "The Stakes of the War,"
"Present-Day Europe: Its National States of Mind,"
"The French Revolution in San Domingo," Etc.

http://churchoftrueisrael.com/stoddard/

Do you realize that not all "whites" in the united states aren't Christian?

Do you realize that Muslims don't care?

Do you realize that by using double negatives you actually said the opposite of what you intended to say?

Actually, if you ask me, it's time to stop white people. I mean, they only make like 10% of the world population and look how they treat all others. Look at America, it used to be all red, but the filthy whites came ridden with disease and started to kill everyone, soon they declared the land as theirs.

It's time to send them back to the steppes in Central Asia where they belong. And if it takes Islam to do it, or finally the black and yellow peoples to wise up, then so be it.

So you would side with the muslims in a civil war?

Actually, if you ask me, it's time to stop white people. I mean, they only make like 10% of the world population and look how they treat all others. Look at America, it used to be all red, but the filthy whites came ridden with disease and started to kill everyone, soon they declared the land as theirs.

It's time to send them back to the steppes in Central Asia where they belong. And if it takes Islam to do it, or finally the black and yellow peoples to wise up, then so be it.
Whites have brought civilization and glory everywhere they have gone. Reds had nothing but pathetic tribes like negroes.
You are correct that White population is dwindling. I cannot image the giant wasteland Earth would be if it fell to the muds...
Neither the Mohammedans nor the negroes nor the yellows shall have victory over the White people anymore!

There are far too many variables and factors to be sure of anything. A second Civil War could be a 'proletariat war' between the oppressed poor population and the super rich. Could be a racial war. Or possibly political agendas that would be weird enough to incite a civil war.

Oh yes because civil rights are right up Muslim countries alleys.
Seeing as Liberals keep civil rights safe, you should be liking them.
Maybe some fringe groups will do that but as a majority liberals are not doing that thing you are talking about.

Not civil rights...extreme political correctness. Just because we recognize that our enemies happen to be arab muslims we are labeled 'racists.' This is what I'm talking about. Communist Mississippi has already pointed this out.

The Jury is still out on Hitler. He mostly wanted to renew the Holy Roman Empire in Europe, then everyone else started getting in his business.

Islam is not a race. I am not racist.

You are naive if you think that the Islamic take over of America and Europe willl be done with a military. That's why they're the enemy within. They don't use conventional means of warfare, they use children and pregnant women to carry bombs.

The "prophet" Mohammad went through the Middle East and Africa slaughtering "infidels" and forcing conversions. How is that any different that what they are doing today? Saying we have no right to act carries the same suicidal results as saying we have no right to defend ourselves.

If there is anything that will aid the muslims in their Islamification of America it's the Liberalization of America.


You are racist if you think that, Islam, like Judaisim houses it's own race, sure it's a bit different as another race takes on the religion, but it's still the same. How do you think christianity gained momentum, it wasn't all by word of mouth, in the crusades, was there such a need to murder everyone just for a bit of land? Was there no understanding that God had no affection for the land, but for the people? There was a children's crusade, after the fourth, in order to regain holy land children were sent, but they were still casualities of war. If you're going to blame liberals, you have the right to never voice your opinion again, liberals are people open to change, willing to allow freedoms that don't harm anyone else, are you saying that you would rather we still be part of england, with no right to free speech? Taxation without representation? We can not go "defending" ourselves if there is no proof nor a cause or reason for an action going to take place in the future, if they have only thought of it, then we can't do anything, but president Bush took that too far, he tried to blend Sadam in with terrorism, Sadam had done nothing to us, but Osama had, we have Sadam, but no Osama, please elaborate as to why we have someone who didn't both us, but we still haven't found Osama? But your bashing of a religion is pissing me off, I have an islamic friend who would rather spend his time fencing then organizing a take over of the USA, face it, no one is going to take america over, terrorism will only cause limited destruction. All Wars of Religions have ended in the victor saying they were blessed by God, not tactics, so why then, was Christianity replaced with Islam in the Middle East, where was God's divine intervention then? People place too much faith in God, never in themselves. Why didn't God stop 9/11? "Because he wanted to bring America closer together." Thats BS, if God wanted it to happen, he could've forced the building down himself, Muslims that are perpetrating these crimes believe they are on a divine mission from God, does that sound familiar? The Crusades were a mission of God that Christians lost, explain that! Islams will not be a part of the alleged next Civil War, this intolerance that we all have with each other will be. It's the only reason wars are started, not for conquest, not to gain land, but because of intolerance, people could conquer anyone, but who would they choose? The people who they despise the most, and they never seek to win the easiest way, they must have a total annihilation. Where is God's divine intervention in it all? If he loves everyone, should he allow for his previous followers to suffer from the nazi concentration camps? A war can not be won with bombs and suicide, these suicides will mean the extermination of the followers, which will weaken their forces more-so then the people they attack. No War will be won with suicide and death.

Can anyone think of any advantages to multiculturalism? Advantages to the native population, I mean? Cause I'm really boggled on this one.

Anytime in history where Muslims became the majority, they claimed all the land belonged to them and declared jihad (holocaust of non-muslims).

Remember, anytime in history Muslims became the majority or near majority in a non-muslim country, they declared a bloody jihad on the "infidels." Historically, Muslims have never lived "peacefully" side by side with non-muslims.
Wrong. Moorish Spain, and many of the Islamic Empires in the middle ages were havens for Jews persecuted by Christian European autocracies. Even Christians were tolerated in these empires.

Culture and learning flourished in the Islamic Empires. Who do you think invented algebra and the concept of zero? (And that's just in my interest, maths.)

Can anyone think of any advantages to multiculturalism? Advantages to the native population, I mean? Cause I'm really boggled on this one.

Sure, a divide populace, you can exploit one group by turning them into a voting bloc by turning them against the other groups.

You "Divide and conquer". You turn the groups against each other, make a killing in the weapons sales.


A divided nation is a weak nation.

Also it makes it easier for the New World Order, one world government.

Whites used to be 33% of the world's population.


So? Still a minority that deserves to be pushed back to Central Asia.

Wrong. Moorish Spain, and many of the Islamic Empires in the middle ages were havens for Jews persecuted by Christian European autocracies. Even Christians were tolerated in these empires.

Culture and learning flourished in the Islamic Empires. Who do you think invented algebra and the concept of zero? (And that's just in my interest, maths.)



Non muslims had to pay a tax every year to avoid being forced to convert!

Many were told "Convert, pay, leave, or die!"

Can anyone think of any advantages to multiculturalism? Advantages to the native population, I mean? Cause I'm really boggled on this one.

The world is multicultural. There, think about that.

The world is multicultural. There, think about that.

Metaphorically speaking, would you say the paint cupboard is multi-coloured regardless of whether the paints are mixed?

So? Still a minority that deserves to be pushed back to Central Asia.


You go ahead and start trying to push us.

Start by trying to push the 300,000 whites in the right-wing militias in the USA.

Then try to push the over 100,000 whites in various white power groups, in the USA.

Then try to push the 250,000 whites in right-wing militias in South Africa.

Then try to push the millions of whites in nationalist causes in Europe.

Go ahead! Push us, we don't just push back, we'll knock you right on your ass!

Can anyone think of any advantages to multiculturalism? Advantages to the native population, I mean? Cause I'm really boggled on this one.
I enjoy my multicultural society, even though I am part of the native population in my country (it's not America). In my city now there is a never-before-seen diversity of shops, restaurants, entertainments, and activities, thanks to multiculturalism. Dublin is a much more colourful place for it.

We are missing the point here, Europe is a diverse land as it was. With Germans, French, Italians, Spanish, Swiss, English, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese, Russians, Swedes, etc. There is no to "Diversify" (Make unstable) Europe by dumping in different races from all across the globe.

I enjoy my multicultural society, even though I am part of the native population in my country (it's not America). In my city now there is a never-before-seen diversity of shops, restaurants, entertainments, and activities, thanks to multiculturalism. Dublin is a much more colourful place for it.



Yes and crime in Europe has never been higher!

Enjoy that!

This (http://www.insmogandthunder.com/) is the only civil war I care about....


That or a class war, which ever.....

Metaphorically speaking, would you say the paint cupboard is multi-coloured regardless of whether the paints are mixed?

The world is not a cupboard, it's more like a mixed drink, the kind where the different drinks form bands of color. Each has it's own very interesting flavor, but when you mixed a new, also interesting, flavor is formed.

Is one better than the other?

You go ahead and start trying to push us.

Start by trying to push the 300,000 whites in the right-wing militias in the USA.

Then try to push the over 100,000 whites in various white power groups, in the USA.

Then try to push the 250,000 whites in right-wing militias in South Africa.

Then try to push the millions of whites in nationalist causes in Europe.

Go ahead! Push us, we don't just push back, we'll knock you right on your ass!

Ok, we'll push, the 5.5 billion of us.

Actually, if you ask me, it's time to stop white people. I mean, they only make like 10% of the world population and look how they treat all others. Look at America, it used to be all red, but the filthy whites came ridden with disease and started to kill everyone, soon they declared the land as theirs.

You might need to read up on your history a bit. If you want to get technical about it, those "red" folks you mentioned weren't the original inhabitants of the U.S. Indeed, the peaceful, plains-dwelling Indians existed before the Cherokee et al, but were slaughtered to make room for the new "immigrants."

That's been the history of the world. A strong, technologically-superior group arrives to a new land, crushes the folks who were their originally, and the process repeats itself. We can either recognize the past for what it is, admit injustices where they happened and do our best to not repeat them, or we can be hostile toward one another and bring up events which are a couple of centuries old to justify our prejudices. Frankly, the world would be a lot better off if folks chose the former, but I suppose we'll always have angry, bitter types like you among us.

Yes and crime in Europe has never been higher!

Enjoy that!

Oh, yes, Europe was such a lovely peaceful place in the 16th Century.

If there is anything that will aid the muslims in their Islamification of America it's the Liberalization of America.
Ann Coulter, is that you? I knew you couldn't hide for long!

Oh, and I don't think Mohammed himself killed anyone. He was persecuted by the local pagans for his religion. Once he died, his followers went on the murderous impreialist rampage of which you speak.

I enjoy my multicultural society, even though I am part of the native population in my country (it's not America). In my city now there is a never-before-seen diversity of shops, restaurants, entertainments, and activities, thanks to multiculturalism. Dublin is a much more colourful place for it.

Yes and crime in Europe has never been higher!

Enjoy that!

My Grandfather once took me to Leeds, to show me where he once lived. When we got near a policeman took us to one side and told us we could not go down there. When we asked why, he said that whites were not allowed down that particular road because lots of whites had been beaten up down there by the immigrants. It was considered too much of a risk to allow us to progress, so we went someplace else. So now the country that my family has lived in for three centuries is a no go area... Oh how I love all these new cultural experiences.

That's been the history of the world. A strong, technologically-superior group arrives to a new land, crushes the folks who were their originally, and the process repeats itself.

And now new stronger groups are rising. So, what's the problem?

The world is not a cupboard, it's more like a mixed drink, the kind where the different drinks form bands of color. Each has it's own very interesting flavor, but when you mixed a new, also interesting, flavor is formed.

Is one better than the other?



The world is gasoline and lemonade. The whites are lemonade, the non-whites are gasoline.

We mix with them, we suffer, they get raised up. Because gasoline with lemonade tastes better than just gasoline, so they benefit. But we, we must debase ourselves to become their equals.

The only way the white is made the equal of the non-white, is to beat the whites into such awful states, or brainwash them into acting like idiots (wiggers, sluts, druggies, etc) that they actually are the social equals of the non-whites.

We'll always be racially superior, but if you brainwash a young child with MTV, you can get him to reject his whiteness, and wear his hat wrong, smoke dope, etc, and act black.

The world is not a cupboard, it's more like a mixed drink, the kind where the different drinks form bands of color. Each has it's own very interesting flavor, but when you mixed a new, also interesting, flavor is formed.

Some drinks mix well. Others curdle and turn sour, spoiling both.

Not a world in which the UN is the supreme overlord ruling over the peasants, the peasants will be the white working class. We fight for our people, the most down-trodden of our people, those who are homeless do to job outsourcing or immigrants stealing their jobs. We are fighting so that corrupt CEOS such as the Enron and World Com, are brought to justice, and the Donald Trumps of the world can no longer declare bankruptcy and keep their personal assets, while billions in debt to other people. Those companies then fold and the workers are screwed.
Do you realise how Marxist you sound? How do you claim to hate marxists?

And now new stronger groups are rising. So, what's the problem?

The non-whites have no technology to rival the West. We are being overrun because of our own complacency and our unwillingness to use the only tool available to save our race and nation. Mass deportion or genocide, take your pick.

Our churches have sold us out, they preach we are the equals of this trash washing up on our shores as "refugees" and "asylum seekers". I say grant them all the asylum they want, in the middle of the atlantic!

If it wasn't for the white culture as a whole, turning against itself, we'd be fine. But the media, the politicians, the clergy, all are against us now.

The jew has turned our television, radio, and printing presses all against us. Our own weapons are being used against us.

The world is gasoline and lemonade. The whites are lemonade, the non-whites are gasoline.


And the lemonade has gone sour, it needs to be thrown out.

Some drinks mix well. Others curdle and turn sour, spoiling both.

But you will never know if you don't try.

Do you realise how Marxist you sound? How do you claim to hate marxists?


The movement is for the WHITE working class, not for the mason-jewry alliance, and not the jewish finance. We are for White people, and the working white people, not for lazy do-nothing CEOs that sit on their thrones spouting orders to their underlings. We are a working class movement for the real Americans! This is a nationalist movement to reclaim America for the people who built it! The laboring white colonists!

The jew has turned our television, radio, and printing presses all against us. Our own weapons are being used against us.

There you are, that's technology. It wouldn't be the first time this has happened.

The movement is for the WHITE working class, not for the mason-jewry alliance, and not the jewish finance. We are for White people, and the working white people, not for lazy do-nothing CEOs that sit on their thrones spouting orders to their underlings. We are a working class movement for the real Americans! This is a nationalist movement to reclaim America for the people who built it! The laboring white colonists!

That sounded even more marxist.

The world is gasoline and lemonade. The whites are lemonade, the non-whites are gasoline.

We mix with them, we suffer, they get raised up. Because gasoline with lemonade tastes better than just gasoline, so they benefit. But we, we must debase ourselves to become their equals.

The only way the white is made the equal of the non-white, is to beat the whites into such awful states, or brainwash them into acting like idiots (wiggers, sluts, druggies, etc) that they actually are the social equals of the non-whites.

We'll always be racially superior, but if you brainwash a young child with MTV, you can get him to reject his whiteness, and wear his hat wrong, smoke dope, etc, and act black.

Racially superior? I don't buy that. To all practical purposes, race is meaningless. But there is an inherent preference in humans to 'us' over 'them'. Whether divine or Darwinian, we cannot ignore it. This is why I think that multiculturalism is just a bad idea. It causes unnecessary friction. If only each culture could only just leave each other alone without imposing their own ideologies on people that they just plain DO NOT SUIT. Its been going backwards and forwards for millenia, don't you think its time to stop?

If consumerism in the Arab world or Islam in the West was meant to happen don't you think it would have already, without military intervention or mass immigration. Whats with this mad rush to One World? I like my culture, I wish to preserve it. I don't want to subjugate anyone. I want to be able to go anywhere in the British Isles without avoiding 'no-go areas' based on the fact I was born here. I wish to walk down the street with people who share my culture and beliefs, and whose faces my ancestors would still recognise as British. Is that such a crime?

There are far too many variables and factors to be sure of anything. A second Civil War could be a 'proletariat war' between the oppressed poor population and the super rich.
A Communist revolution in the United States? Now that is and interesting idea. Thanks.

So you would side with the muslims in a civil war?
Who are you to lecture? If you had been alive in WW2, you would have sided with the fascists.

But you will never know if you don't try.

Why fix something if its not broke?

That sounded even more marxist.


The white workers of America have been sold-out by the jewish-mason Cabal and the CEO cabal. They are going to turn America into a Brazil, where the nation is 30% white, they're all landless peasants, and we are constantly in a state of strife and instability abounds. The wars in the middle east will come back to haunt the USA. When the first nuclear bomb explodes in the USA, there will be sweeping gun bans and ends to all key freedoms under the guise of security. When the laws we hold so dear disappear overnight and we are forced into peasantry by the lords of industry (most jews and masons) then we will finally know we've been sold-out. But will it be too late? They want to turn the white working class into serfs. They want to break America into a third world nation, so they can use us all as cheap compliant labor. Any who disagree, go to a camp, or their food ration cards will be taken. You comply, you get to eat, you refuse, you starve. Well are we going to stand for this New World Order plan?

I say no! Let us strike now!

For America! Death to the military internal security apparatus of government! (The CIA, NSA, ATF, FBI, Federal Marshals)


Peace and Plenty shall be the new order of the day!

America for Americans!

That sounded even more marxist.

Why was mass Third World immigration introduced after WW2? No! Thats wrong. It wasn't a man power shortage at all. In Britain, we lost less than a million, and had enough of an industry to out-build Germany and France in planes by two-fold in 1940. After the war, we had all the demobilized soldiers to fill any vacanies there might be.

"So why the immigration" I hear you say? It was the capitalists. The globalists. The ones who profit by creating unemployment, forcing whites to fight immigrants over jobs all the while undercutting one another keeping wages low. I'm not a Marxist, but I sure as hell aren't a capitalist either.

Anyone ever heard of Distributism?

And now new stronger groups are rising. So, what's the problem?

No problem here, ace. You just seem to have little understanding of the history of North America.

Why fix something if its not broke?

Well, it's not fixing, or breaking. I agree with you on preserving culture, which I think is good, but preservation shouldn't mean stagnation.

Look at how richer Europe's own cultures are through the integration of other human groups, from the Middle East 3,000 years ago, through Asia and the Arabs much more recently.

And look how much culture changes anyway, a person from 100 years ago would have problems recognizing language and clothes, not to mention music and other customs.

I understand the need for one to have an identifycation with the past, roots, but that shouldn't mean that we can not welcome new experiences, new roots.

Of course, I totally agree that newcomers shouldn't push themselves into everyone's way and should also accept the realities and past of the new land they are coming to. Immigrants should bring something with them but at the same time they should be prepared to leave some things back home.

America for Americans!

I agree. All whites should leave the continent now. Leave it to the Americans and those who want to stay nicely.

Ann Coulter, is that you? I knew you couldn't hide for long!

Oh, and I don't think Mohammed himself killed anyone. He was persecuted by the local pagans for his religion. Once he died, his followers went on the murderous impreialist rampage of which you speak.

WRONG! You need to read history you ignorant fool! Muhammad began preaching in Islam in Mecca. Most Meccans were pagans and tolerated his beliefs. Soon he became fanatical and the others took notice. They may have told him to leave (not sure) but he left to Medina where he slowly gathered a following and he and his tribe then delcared jihad on the Meccans. He went all over Africa and the Middles East forcing many to convert or die. Since Muhammad and his tribe were brutal, psychoatoc, fearless warriors, most converted for fear of death.

The only way the white is made the equal of the non-white, is to beat the whites into such awful states, or brainwash them into acting like idiots (wiggers, sluts, druggies, etc) that they actually are the social equals of the non-whites.

We'll always be racially superior, but if you brainwash a young child with MTV, you can get him to reject his whiteness, and wear his hat wrong, smoke dope, etc, and act black.
Actually, whites introduced drugs to the black people. MTV was also set up by white people. In fact in its first few weeks it would not even play videos by black artists. And I don't think sexual promiscuity was ever confined to any race, it's a human thing.

Not all white people have to be the same. How does wearing your hat wrong constitute rejection of your heritage?

How are whites racially superior? If you are going to point to technological achievement or former population numbers, then the Chinese would be "racially superior".

My Grandfather once took me to Leeds, to show me where he once lived. When we got near a policeman took us to one side and told us we could not go down there. When we asked why, he said that whites were not allowed down that particular road because lots of whites had been beaten up down there by the immigrants. It was considered too much of a risk to allow us to progress, so we went someplace else. So now the country that my family has lived in for three centuries is a no go area... Oh how I love all these new cultural experiences.
I agree that this is wrong, but I put it down to anti-social right-wing Thatcherite policies, rather than plain multiculturalism.

The movement is for the WHITE working class, not for the mason-jewry alliance, and not the jewish finance. We are for White people, and the working white people, not for lazy do-nothing CEOs that sit on their thrones spouting orders to their underlings. We are a working class movement for the real Americans! This is a nationalist movement to reclaim America for the people who built it! The laboring white colonists!
White or black, that's not really the point. Everything you said sounded like it was straight out of The Communist Manifesto. All that about a working-class revolution against the rich CEOs and aristocrats.

Actually, whites introduced drugs to the black people. MTV was also set up by white people. In fact in its first few weeks it would not even play videos by black artists. And I don't think sexual promiscuity was ever confined to any race, it's a human thing.
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MTV is by the jew Sumner Redstone, birth name "Murray Rothstein"

I've actually heard there is a fundamentalist Christian movement to get all fundamentalist Christians to all move to South Carolina, and they would then secede from the Union and form their own autonomous country.

The irony of the fact that it was South Carolina seceding from the Union that brought about the original Civil War is not lost on most I speak to.

Well, it's not fixing, or breaking. I agree with you on preserving culture, which I think is good, but preservation shouldn't mean stagnation.

If demographic trends continue, the British will be an ethnic minority in Britain by 2055.

Look at how richer Europe's own cultures are through the integration of other human groups, from the Middle East 3,000 years ago, through Asia and the Arabs much more recently.

I'd rather not see Mosques dotted all over my Green and Pleasant Land, if its OK with you. One or two, sure. A couple of Synagogues, why not? But not loads of them.

I understand the need for one to have an identifycation with the past, roots, but that shouldn't mean that we can not welcome new experiences, new roots.

Of course, I totally agree that newcomers shouldn't push themselves into everyone's way and should also accept the realities and past of the new land they are coming to. Immigrants should bring something with them but at the same time they should be prepared to leave some things back home.

When immigrants become a 'force to be reckoned with', which is, to be honest, scaring the shit out of the natives, that is when you know it has gone too far. I have no problem with small amounts of immigrants - we've had thousands of Indians and Afro-Carribbeans here over a hundred years and they've integrated fully - but when you get ethnic/religious riots outside your doors and bricks coming through your windows you know its gotten way out of hand.

Why was mass Third World immigration introduced after WW2? No! Thats wrong. It wasn't a man power shortage at all. In Britain, we lost less than a million, and had enough of an industry to out-build Germany and France in planes by two-fold in 1940. After the war, we had all the demobilized soldiers to fill any vacanies there might be.


Britain is an interesting case. The British empire extended over much of what today is called Third World. Ever wondered how the Third World came to be so impoverished when it is made up of some of the most naturally rich land and people who were mostly self sufficient before colonization? Well, it was the exploitation by colinizing powers that made them that way (and lots of internal wars fought with modern armament after that).

Anyway, when Britain was still in power over those lands, they saw fit to give everyone there British nationality and passport. After all, what are they going to do? Take a boat and spend eight weeks travelling? They can't even afford food for a day!

After the end of WW2 and the arrival of cheap passage and relative prosperity for those countries, a lot of people found it within their means to travel to Britain as was their right. After all, the riches of the Empire were there.

It took the British some time to react, but they closed the door by instituting a second passport for those born outside the UK, which alllows them to travel to, but not stay in Britain.

Almost every country in Europe has closed their doors to immigration now. In the world only Canada and the US follow immigration friendly policies, and the US has strict limits on how many immigrants to accept. Of course, immigration hasn't gone down to zero and I doubt it ever will.


"So why the immigration" I hear you say? It was the capitalists. The globalists. The ones who profit by creating unemployment, forcing whites to fight immigrants over jobs all the while undercutting one another keeping wages low. I'm not a Marxist, but I sure as hell aren't a capitalist either.


I'm pretty sure the capitalists will do whatever is within their reach to increase profit and they will take advantage of whatever human phenomenon without feeling remorse; but I don't think they were the direct cause of these particular movements, even if they became reacher.

Outsourcing on the other hand...

No problem here, ace. You just seem to have little understanding of the history of North America.

Nah, I know there were lots of internal human movements in the continent long before the Europeans arrived, and that many of those movements weren't entirely peaceful. But some people here want to make it seem like a white against the world thing, so I say let's make it that way.

I agree that this is wrong, but I put it down to anti-social right-wing Thatcherite policies, rather than plain multiculturalism.

I'm not saying multiculturalism doesn't work, I'm just saying its going way too fast and its gotten way out of hand. It needs to be a very slow process, otherwise its bound to flare up. Like any other revolution, unless its a slow, steady reform it'll end in violence. And I'll agree with the right-wing bit. I blame ALL Britain's ethnic strife on the global corporations who forced this unpopular policy on us, and it's supporters in our governing elite.

I'm not saying multiculturalism doesn't work, I'm just saying its going way too fast and its gotten way out of hand. It needs to be a very slow process, otherwise its bound to flare up. Like any other revolution, unless its a slow, steady reform it'll end in violence. And I'll agree with the right-wing bit. I blame ALL Britain's ethnic strife on the global corporations who forced this unpopular policy on us, and it's supporters in our governing elite.


I'm saying it's time for the laboring whites of the world to unite and rise up against the jewish-mason cabal that is holding them down, keeping them in perpetual servitude to their master plan. The robber barons that gouge them on the commodities that are the necessities of life, such as food, water, shelter, and electricity. It is time we rise up against these oppressors and smash them for all time!

I'm saying it's time for the laboring whites of the world to unite and rise up against the jewish-mason cabal that is holding them down, keeping them in perpetual servitude to their master plan. The robber barons that gouge them on the commodities that are the necessities of life, such as food, water, shelter, and electricity. It is time we rise up against these oppressors and smash them for all time!

I agree with you 100%

White revolution is the only solution!


World wide white revolution against the robber barons that have sold us out to the jewry-masonic alliance that is seeking to turn us into the modern serfs that will work their factories and estates!

Whats with all the Muslim bashing in here? You guys remind me a lot of the Skinheads in our neighborhood who put a pamphlet on every persons doorstep saying how the Jews are taking over America.

I think the next Civil War will probably be more about civil rights or religion... or possibly West Coast versus East Coast... which would really really suck..

MTV is by the jew Sumner Redstone, birth name "Murray Rothstein"
See, a white guy!

Remember the battle of Grenada in 1492 when the brave Spanish drove the moors out once and for all. Well it was not for all. Will the brave Spanish ever rise up and take back what is theirs?

Huh? Grenada is an island in the Caribbean, don't think there's ever been that many Moors there?

I think you mean Granada. You are indeed referring to a time when the Spanish inquisition use to torture Jews, Muslims, Atheists, and even Protestants (a little later).

On the other hand the Muslims of Spain had created a peaceful society of co-existance, Jews, Muslims and Christians all lived together under Muslim rule and there was a flourishing of the Arts and Sciences.

Islamic Cordoba had the largest Library and University in all of Europe, in which Christians, Muslims, Jews and even women attended. Great advances in Mathematics and Medicine were developed and the knowledge was spread from here all over less civilized Europe.

There was even plumming and street lights in Cordoba.

The only unfair side of the society was that non-Muslims were taxed more than Muslims.

Of course, when the Spanish took over they destroyed all of this, both Muslims and Jews were forced to either convert, flee, or be killed.

Those that converted became known as the "Moriscos" who were then forced to leave Spain in the Sevententh Century (even though they had been Christians for over 100 years!)

World wide white revolution against the robber barons that have sold us out to the jewry-masonic alliance that is seeking to turn us into the modern serfs that will work their factories and estates!

You know the funny bit? I agree with that! I believe in worker's equality and fairness.

I would agree more if your plan involves whites going down their mines, plowing and harvesting their fields, paying fair prices for raw materials and finished products that they need from other nations or races without feeling the need to impose their own or invade someone else's land to get at some particularly desirable material and generally keep to themselves.

If that's part of your plan, I support it.

There's still the matter of where, though. As you say, America should be for the Americans, and there have been Americans in America much longer than there have been whites.

Huh? Grenada is an island in the Caribbean, don't think there's ever been that many Moors there?

I think you mean Granada. You are indeed referring to a time when the Spanish inquisition use to torture Jews, Muslims, Atheists, and even Protestants (a little later).

On the other hand the Muslims of Spain had created a peaceful society of co-existance, Jews, Muslims and Christians all lived together under Muslim rule and there was a flourishing of the Arts and Sciences.

Islamic Cordoba had the largest Library and University in all of Europe, in which Christians, Muslims, Jews and even women attended. Great advances in Mathematics and Medicine were developed and the knowledge was spread from here all over less civilized Europe.

There was even plumming and street lights in Cordoba.

The only unfair side of the society was that non-Muslims were taxed more than Muslims.

Of course, when the Spanish took over they destroyed all of this, both Muslims and Jews were forced to either convert, flee, or be killed.

Those that converted became known as the "Moriscos" who were then forced to leave Spain in the Sevententh Century (even though they had been Christians for over 100 years!)


Yes, Granada, my mistake, sorry. :D

I know about moriscos.

You know the funny bit? I agree with that! I believe in worker's equality and fairness.

I would agree more if your plan involves whites going down their mines, plowing and harvesting their fields, paying fair prices for raw materials and finished products that they need from other nations or races without feeling the need to impose their own or invade someone else's land to get at some particularly desirable material and generally keep to themselves.

If that's part of your plan, I support it.

There's still the matter of where, though. As you say, America should be for the Americans, and there have been Americans in America much longer than there have been whites.


I mean USA for United "Statesians" We whites built the USA, there was no country when we got here, just wilderness and tribes. It's unfortunate for them they lost, but let's make the best of it and establish a society that doesn't impose its will on other nations, nor let other nations and races impose their will on our people.

I mean USA for United "Statesians" We whites built the USA, there was no country when we got here, just wilderness and tribes. It's unfortunate for them they lost, but let's make the best of it and establish a society that doesn't impose its will on other nations, nor let other nations and races impose their will on our people.

Well, not all of the nations that were there at the time were simple tribes (which still wouldn't make it right to treat them as inferiors), but let's say we let bygones be bygones. It would still be true that the US people imported a lot of black and yellow laborers to help them build their country, one that they seldom enjoyed until more recent times. Even the whites that came were far from being a homogeneus mass. Some white radicals don't even consider Greeks, Portuguese and Italians as true whites. Of course, there still is the matter of Natives, and recent immigrants, who in one way or another contribute to build the country.

What would you propose to do about that? Deportation would be unfair, because you would be deporting native-born people (of several generations) and they wouldn't make it easy. Besides, not all whites would support you on that. Same with genocide, you would have to brainwash a lot of people to carry out something like that.

So, what to do about that?

I'm not saying multiculturalism doesn't work, I'm just saying its going way too fast and its gotten way out of hand. It needs to be a very slow process, otherwise its bound to flare up. Like any other revolution, unless its a slow, steady reform it'll end in violence. And I'll agree with the right-wing bit. I blame ALL Britain's ethnic strife on the global corporations who forced this unpopular policy on us, and it's supporters in our governing elite.

I agree that there may be a bit of that going on. When immigration happens too fast the people in the country don't have time to adapt and feel threatened. And the new people don't have time to adapt either and feel unwelcome.

A more sensitive approach should work better. I also agree with you that immigration shouldn't simply be justified over the demands of capitalism, which required ever more and more workers and more and more markets. A more sensible economy must be found.

Beats me if I know what those are.

Yes indeedy,

Looking at current feelings, decisions, lawmaking, planning of the US powerhouses with seats in Senate, Congress and local authority, I am to say that there is something headed this way fast.

Do you believe in Karma? I noticed that my own faulty judgement, failures and mistakes came back at me, sometimes years later. I have seen this with others and believe this to be true for cultures as well.
Surely those WW2 super bombs were absolutely needed. WMD coming for you.

Racism, fascism, the way communism worked out, capitalism..........power corrupts, so has happened with our freedom in word. In action we have never been free, maybe before eating that darn apple.

So we find ourselves alien from nature, unsatisfied and secretly miserable, depressed and why do not more people love me me me.

I find urban - rural fine counter poles for the next civil war, would be just to get war at our own doors. Civilians against Federal troops, shotguns against whatever they can come up with nowadays.

What to do?

Nothing unless you are trigger-happy and vote Bush to speed up events like Waco wacko.

I only fight and care for my wife, my son, my parents, sisters and a handful of friends. The rest, well, good luck to you all.

Would be stupid to pick a fight you cannot win so a wise being would look at other options available:

- orientate, look at your surroundings and do a risk assessment
- try become self sufficient with small group of friends
- pick up survival skills
- learn to do with less, this will be for all of us, surely soon or later.

First our wealth is at stake, 7 Trillion debts and growing........boom bust blast.

What does the Gallon? Dollar wise?

I agree that there may be a bit of that going on. When immigration happens too fast the people in the country don't have time to adapt and feel threatened. And the new people don't have time to adapt either and feel unwelcome.

A more sensitive approach should work better. I also agree with you that immigration shouldn't simply be justified over the demands of capitalism, which required ever more and more workers and more and more markets. A more sensible economy must be found.

Beats me if I know what those are.

Beats me how a growth-based economy will work forever on a planet with limited resources... but thats a problem for the future.

Capitalism plays off people against one another. It hires psychiatrists to find out the most effective form of advertising. It basically broke up the family in the 70s, selling the 'The old don't understand us: rebel" to the young and "The young don't pay us respect" to the old. They now play off countries against one another, creating baseless 'needs' and 'wants', causing Indian doctors and nurses to disregard their culture and families to come to Britain for a better wage, so they can 'live it up' and be a materialist, cultureless consumer. With their outsourcing they evade taxes, sucking wealth from Britain and the Third World in equal measure to line their own pockets.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm neither a socialist or a communist, I disagree with the government using taxes and social security as a means to social reform. The capitalist system had done us good in the past but it now suits others better. We need to change now before it is too late.

Distributism sounds good to me, and a good site to check it out is http://www.distributism.com. I'm a firm believer in a reasonably secular government, but this site is very non-secular. So for all you seculars out there, you can still get the main points but avoid the religious aspects of it.

Hah!

I laugh at all of you white people.

In 20 years, the white "race" will be all but gone, why? Hormones.

Hispanics are the fastest growing minority, we'll be boning your "pure white women"

I swear, you white people are so funny, I almost choked on my drink.

Your ignornance is also amazing, to think that the "white man" is the superior race.

I personally think my cuisine is superior to yours :p

Any skinhead that wants ta kill me, will have to say hello to my lil friend!

*cocks shotgun*

But on topic...
Eh, Communist Revolution the way I see it...

Hah!

I laugh at all of you white people.

In 20 years, the white "race" will be all but gone, why? Hormones.

Hispanics are the fastest growing minority, we'll be boning your "pure white women"

I swear, you white people are so funny, I almost choked on my drink.

Your ignornance is also amazing, to think that the "white man" is the superior race.

I personally think my cuisine is superior to yours :p

Any skinhead that wants ta kill me, will have to say hello to my lil friend!

*cocks shotgun*

But on topic...
Eh, Communist Revolution the way I see it...



I know of some folks who have a TOW Missile system! You people think you can take our women! Well we're going to fight and die if necessary, to stop you from ravaging the white women of the White nations.

I agree that there may be a bit of that going on. When immigration happens too fast the people in the country don't have time to adapt and feel threatened. And the new people don't have time to adapt either and feel unwelcome.

A more sensitive approach should work better. I also agree with you that immigration shouldn't simply be justified over the demands of capitalism, which required ever more and more workers and more and more markets. A more sensible economy must be found.

Beats me if I know what those are.

Sensible would be a local economy with self sustaining capabilities like responsible human beings, use of resources that profit both environment and peoples. A person, family indulging in importance, lazyness, abuse will not be tolerated. New children granted if there is place for them.
Local governments based on watersheds.

For this you will need a strong common purpose like neccesity or a beneficial dictator.

I know of some folks who have a TOW Missile system! You people think you can take our women! Well we're going to fight and die if necessary, to stop you from ravaging the white women of the White nations.

But your women are so sexy, I can't help but to like them.

Geez louise, you're a riot!

Que loco tu eres che :)

Wow. I mean, I've seen some blatant racism in my time, but Jesus Christ- this is regoddamndiculious. I'd comment, but the amount of blatant re-writign of history and outright lies is so thick I frankly don't want to take the time. This thread makes a very powerful case for totalitarianism. I mean, I'd be somewhat bothered by it, if it were for the fact that you lunatic fringe types are exactly that- lunatics on the edge of the political spectrum. Have fun never being relevant, and such.

Also, there's a common thread through the history of making predictions in the way history will turn out; every one who has ever done it gets it wrong, and usually, extreemly wrong.

I know of some folks who have a TOW Missile system! You people think you can take our women! Well we're going to fight and die if necessary, to stop you from ravaging the white women of the White nations.

I think I'm about to start pushing for revolution right now - reasonable people against people who treat women like they are nothing but commodities. FYI - I choose who I sleep with. Race is not a factor for me one way or another.

I think any possible revolution will be based on economic class and/or idealogy. These things cross race lines. Who cares what color people are. It's ideas, actions, and beliefs that ultimately matter the most.

I know of some folks who have a TOW Missile system! You people think you can take our women! Well we're going to fight and die if necessary, to stop you from ravaging the white women of the White nations.

One would think you'd give them a voice in this matter :p


Ok, THIS is what's going to happen. A bunch of those idiot militias will all raise up and go "we're so cool!" and they'll probebly kill a few people. The US will take it's military, shove it up the supremesist's collective ass, and a) kill them, or b) send them to prison. Where a large, white person will grin at them and say "your my little piggy now!"

And they will have a wonderful yaoi moment that they'll both except, because, as they would say, "white makes right"




You know, you silly white supremists never bring up asians. Where do they fit in your make believe world?

you now i just relesed somthing america is full of parinod crackpots................


rule brittana

this is to communist mississippi and all the race haters in this freaking room:

When 911 happened, all races united at the bottom of those destroyed towers to help each other!!!
everyone was together to meet the demands!!
the senate was together to invade afghanistan and iraq!!!
do you understand that this bickering about the united states being weak is meaningless?
the muslims coming to attack us?!!?!? HAH you are the most close minded individual ever.
If ANYONE came into our country and tried to claim it ,every one would fight that to the death. I would.
as far as civil war. I dont think anyone in america wants to see a war here first of all, and us split off from another part of society so close by. We are inetgrating further and further, wereas war here would just be unreasonable for a majority of the americans who would be involved.Business owners would be hating that shit im shure. : )

Sorry for the rant. racism pisses me off : )

I'd rather not see Mosques dotted all over my Green and Pleasant Land, if its OK with you. One or two, sure. A couple of Synagogues, why not? But not loads of them.

Why...not?

Why...not?

Cause Britain has always been a majority Christian country for the last two millenia and I'd rather it stayed that way.

Also Islam doesn't fit our culture very well. We drink alcohol, eat pork, eat other meats that have been humanely killed rather than ritually sacrificed...the list goes on. Like I said originally, I don't mind a few immigrants but I don't think they should ever make up a significant part of the populace.

Besides, do you think the Muslims would be happy if half of Britain emigrated to Mecca and started erecting churches and chapels all over the place? Started drinking booze on the streets and frying bacon and pork chops? Having our women walking around in just their bikinis or wearing revealing clothing? After all, showing them different cultures is a good thing right?

[QUOTE=Luciferius]Historically, Muslims have never lived "peacefully" side by side with non-muslims.[QUOTE]

Erm, before the Crusades, Jerusalem under Muslim rule was peaceful and allowed, yes christians, jews and muslims to live side-by-side. During the crusades, even Christians who lived there were slaughtered.

What about Muhammed's city of Medina? He lived side by side with the Jewish tribes.

What about Baghdad? Before the Mongol invasion, it was an enlightened and educated city. this was still during the time when Jews were exiled, killed and persecuted in Europe.

In Iran, Iraq (before Saddam), Palestine (before occupation), Jews, Christians and Muslims lived peacefully.

I don't think what you're saying is true in the slightest.

Ronald McDonald V's Burgerking.

the senate was together to invade afghanistan and iraq!!!

do you understand that this bickering about the united states being weak is meaningless?


Actually there is such division over Iraq, it isn't funny.


So lets all stop debate and unite behind the banner of war, if we don't, we're not patriotic. Interesting theory, use the "anti-patriot" witch-hunt" to get your war. Any who disagree or want debate, they are anti-american, heck, maybe they're even a member of Al-Qaeda... Best be safe and send them to Guantánamo.

What will cause the next American civil war, if there is one?


shortage of macaroni beads?

Ronald McDonald V's Burgerking.
Done and done, Burger King lost because they decided on crappy business locations. McDonalds was the victor.

Remember, anytime in history Muslims became the majority or near majority in a non-muslim country, they declared a bloody jihad on the "infidels." Historically, Muslims have never lived "peacefully" side by side with non-muslims.

Sicily was governed by muslims in the dark age, then by spanish and french.

it could be easily said, by popular tales, revolts had in the periods, constructions made by the three populations that the spanish and the french rulers were tyrannical oppressors, while the "evil muslims" were ragarded as highly cultured and civilized people.

And they left the choice of what religion u want to follow. that "anytime in history muslim declared blah blah" sentence is false.

Cheers

getting back to the topic,

don't think the Islamic question will cause a civil war in the USA.
That's Highly improbable, there are higher (higher than a civil war caused by islamic influence... u all are just too much paranoic about Terrorists and so on, bringing every topic, sooner or later, into that direction) probabilities of a war against China or the UE.

and that will at least keep ur nationalists in line to save your great country from the evil chinese/europeans... delaying a civil war of about hmmmm... 100 years?


Cheers

I agree with you 100%

White revolution is the only solution!


World wide white revolution against the robber barons that have sold us out to the jewry-masonic alliance that is seeking to turn us into the modern serfs that will work their factories and estates!Do me a favor and drop me a line right before the 'revolution' begins. I wanna set my VCR so I don't miss that blip on the radar screen. It should be about a 3 minute segment on the evening news showing lots of guys in body armour with initials on their back (FBI, ATF, etc.) and a bunch of neo-nazi's in handcuffs or bodybags.

Bush winning the 2004 election by a single state. . . oh let's say Florida just for kicks.

Do me a favor and drop me a line right before the 'revolution' begins. I wanna set my VCR so I don't miss that blip on the radar screen. It should be about a 3 minute segment on the evening news showing lots of guys in body armour with initials on their back (FBI, ATF, etc.) and a bunch of neo-nazi's in handcuffs or bodybags.


It's going to be guerilla warfare. And we aren't going to start it, we'll end it.

It's going to be guerilla warfare. And we aren't going to start it, we'll end it.

Yea just like the KKK, the aryan nation, the neo-nazis, the militias....

Don't hold your breath.....

I here tell this is what America will look like after the Civil War.

I here tell this is what America will look like after the Civil War.



Wrong, there will be 3 nations (South will be black. North + New England + Midwest + Pacific Northwest will be white. And the Southwest will be mexican)



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Military analyst Tom Chittum has the guts to take a no-nonsense factual look at what more and more Americans have been thinking. He examines political, economic and demographic trends to conclude that America is headed toward either becoming an imperialistic police stat in which there is little or no freedom or - more likely - collapsing into another civil war: Civil War II. This civil war will break America apart geographically, primarily along racial lines.

Author Tom Chittum won't leave you swimming in vague generalizations. He pinpoints the factors driving the breakup. He provides you with detailed maps which show how the country will likely be split, and who will be controlling what parts. He explains what areas of the country are likely to become hot spots, and why - again providing maps. He examines the timetable for Civil War II, explaining when it is likely to happen and why it will happen when it does. And he gives his readers solid advice on

Wrong, there will be 3 nations (South will be black. North + New England + Midwest + Pacific Northwest will be white. And the Southwest will be mexican)



http://www.ameaglepubs.com/store/civwar2.html


Civil War II
by Thomas W. Chittum
ISBN 0-929408-17-9
208 pages, paperback $12.95


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Military analyst Tom Chittum has the guts to take a no-nonsense factual look at what more and more Americans have been thinking. He examines political, economic and demographic trends to conclude that America is headed toward either becoming an imperialistic police stat in which there is little or no freedom or - more likely - collapsing into another civil war: Civil War II. This civil war will break America apart geographically, primarily along racial lines.

Author Tom Chittum won't leave you swimming in vague generalizations. He pinpoints the factors driving the breakup. He provides you with detailed maps which show how the country will likely be split, and who will be controlling what parts. He explains what areas of the country are likely to become hot spots, and why - again providing maps. He examines the timetable for Civil War II, explaining when it is likely to happen and why it will happen when it does. And he gives his readers solid advice on

I swear, you've whored out that book a bajillion times now. GIVE IT UP. NOBODY wants to read that idiotic tripe!

It's probably so incredibally far into the future, that it is very hard to predict. But I bet it'll begin because of some East-West divide. Another possibility is that, in the future, the US economy will look more like Brazil: a superhuge gap between rich and poor, despite plenty of resources for everyone. I bet it may be some form of class warfare. But like I said, it's probably at least 200 years off, at the earliest.

no idea but it could be between the left and right types and deal with oh say the religious and non religious and the fiscal types and the fiscal liberals, I dunno but we are on the brink of a sequel aren't we :(