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No show Olympics?

Doujin
16-08-2004, 18:05
ATHENS, Greece (AP) (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/olympics/2004/08/15/empty.seats.ap/) -- In the Olympic tennis stadium, Venus Williams' grunts echoed loudly off several thousand empty seats. There were so few people at the gymnastics preliminaries that it looked like a high school meet.

Across Athens, on the opening weekend of the Olympics, the scene was the same: Wrestlers grappled in front of only a few hundred fans, archers had the old Olympic stadium nearly to themselves and softball was played before a backdrop of empty stands.

So far, the Olympics are a box-office bust.

"I watched it on TV and when you looked in the background, you were like, `Wow, it's the Olympics and nobody is there,"' former gymnast Bart Conner said.

Athens organizers, in their rush to finish building some of the sparkling new venues, apparently didn't work as hard trying to fill them. And Greeks are proving to be selective about what they'll pay money to watch, despite ticket prices of as little as $11 a seat for some preliminary competitions.

That's led to some embarrassing scenes, such as Sunday when Williams played in front of only about 500 fans on center court in the Olympic tennis complex. It was so quiet that the first shout of "Come on, Venus!" from the stands -- a constant cry when she plays at big tournaments -- came in the next-to-last game of the match.

At gymnastics, huge sections of seats had no one in them while the women competed, a fact Greek state television duly noted.

"This must be the first time there is an Olympic gymnastics event that didn't have a full arena," a commentator said.

Organizers say it's too early to judge the games by a few empty arenas. They claim to have sold more than 2.9 million tickets out of a total of 5.3 million. The goal is to sell 3.4 million tickets, and Athens 2004 spokesman Michael Zacharatos predicted sales will increase as the games become "more exciting."

In Sydney four years ago, organizers said they sold 92 percent of the 5.7 million tickets.

"We are confident that Greeks ... will flow to the stadiums, as well as international visitors," Zacharatos said.

Still, organizers launched a national television campaign on Sunday to boost sales.

"It's more to inform people about specific sports," Zacharatos said.

In a poll last month, only one in five Greeks said they planned to buy tickets. Worries over whether the Olympics would be safe and the venues finished also apparently cut into tourist sales, with American ticket agents saying they ordered 30 percent less tickets than Sydney.

Though the official Athens 2004 Web site urges fans to buy tickets early because "they are already hard to find," a few more clicks shows that tickets were available for every sport on Monday except sailing and the evening swimming events.

To be sure, there were some full houses Sunday, even on a major religious holiday in Greece.

Swimming, with tight races, gold medals and world records, were sellouts -- in stark contrast to daytime tennis matches.

"You have to understand -- people see tennis a lot," Andy Roddick said. "If it's a choice between that or swimming at the Olympics, people possibly go to swimming."

Basketball drew a big crowd for Argentina against Serbia-Montenegro, and so did a marquee match in water polo between defending Olympic champion Hungry and Serbia-Montenegro.

More common, though, were the scenes at the Cuba-Australia baseball game, where only 1,549 fans made their way to the 8,700-seat stadium. At the Paraguay-Ghana soccer match in Thessaloniki, no one was sitting on the far side or in the end zones.

At the Japan-Italy game in Volos about 200 miles north of Athens, barely 5,000 fans were in the stadium, and there were almost as many Japanese fans as locals.

"With all the interest that's followed Greece winning the European Championship, I'm surprised that there haven't been more people at the games," said FIFA president Sepp Blatter, who attended one. "But it's the same at many other events at the Olympics. I saw a rowing event where you could have had time to shake hands with all the spectators."

Indeed, at the new Nikaia Olympic weightlifting hall there were more volunteers and officials than paying spectators for the early sessions. But arena official Christos Gkalis said that would change next week when Greeks Pyrros Dimas and Kakhi Kakiasvilis go for their fourth consecutive gold medals.

"Wait until the 21st and all of Greece will be here," he said.

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So, how do you think it will turn around? And if someone already posted about this or something.. I apologize, didn't see -.-
Suicidal Librarians
16-08-2004, 20:48
Hmmm, I did notice that not very many people were in the stands at the Olympics....
Chess Squares
16-08-2004, 21:01
i blame the US whining about terrorism, thats what the current adminsitration does when it does want anyone or anything to steal its thunder, throw around threats of impending terrorist doom that may or not happen, but are very serious and should be taken into account in case they might happen or not, where is that editorial cartoon with rumsfeld climbing into these peopels windows and warning them about the terrorist threat...that mgiht not happen.. and that they should be afraid...but not too afraid
Arenestho
16-08-2004, 21:07
i blame the US whining about terrorism, thats what the current adminsitration does when it does want anyone or anything to steal its thunder, throw around threats of impending terrorist doom that may or not happen, but are very serious and should be taken into account in case they might happen or not, where is that editorial cartoon with rumsfeld climbing into these peopels windows and warning them about the terrorist threat...that mgiht not happen.. and that they should be afraid...but not too afraid
I agree. if the US hadn't been so whiny about the terrorist threat, more americans would go as well as many other westerners and foreigners.

But yah it's incredible how few seats are filled.
Doujin
17-08-2004, 07:48
i blame the US whining about terrorism, thats what the current adminsitration does when it does want anyone or anything to steal its thunder, throw around threats of impending terrorist doom that may or not happen, but are very serious and should be taken into account in case they might happen or not, where is that editorial cartoon with rumsfeld climbing into these peopels windows and warning them about the terrorist threat...that mgiht not happen.. and that they should be afraid...but not too afraid

Heh, I agree :)
Nazi Weaponized Virus
17-08-2004, 07:58
Why is the British Media intent on attacking the Athens Games so much?

In fact - Why are they so Anti-Greek in General?

I remember after the Greek Cypriots voted 'no' in the unfair Annan Plan (American and British Plan - Annan just put his signature on it) in a democratic referendum a Sky News Reporter said: "Cypriots will live to regret this."

Thats why I can't stand the British sometimes, they don't understand the situation at all. If you walk into a slum with a blank cheque, of course they are going to vote yes! This is the Turkish Cypriot reason for voting yes, plus the fact the right of return decision was laughable, as was the decision Turkish troops could stay on as long as they pleased in both parts of the island. And it did not even attempt to address the issue of the 'sovereign' British bases on the island.
Kirtondom
17-08-2004, 08:00
Don't blame the US. The Brits have never been put off by terrorist. We've put up with terrorist threats and murders for decades, so an extra threat does not stop us moving about. I don't think our travel was affected that much by 9-11. I went over to Vancouver at the start of October the same year.
What has put alot of people off, at least the Brits is more likley to be the fact that all the food, accomodation etc has leapt up to three of four times the normal prices. As we as a nation travel to Greece alot, we know how much things cost and when we are being ripped off. And no body likes to be ripped off. a case of cutting thier own throats I'm afraid.
Tygaland
17-08-2004, 08:07
i blame the US whining about terrorism, thats what the current adminsitration does when it does want anyone or anything to steal its thunder, throw around threats of impending terrorist doom that may or not happen, but are very serious and should be taken into account in case they might happen or not, where is that editorial cartoon with rumsfeld climbing into these peopels windows and warning them about the terrorist threat...that mgiht not happen.. and that they should be afraid...but not too afraid

If they did nothing and something happened then you would be whining about that too.
I think the lack of spectators in Athens is due to a combination of things. The fact that the games are a potential terrorist target and also the profiteering by raising prices for food and accommodation would have scared people away. I am sure there are other reasons but they are the 2 that spring to mind.
Worldwide America
17-08-2004, 09:48
Is that article from itstherightway.com?
Suicidal Librarians
17-08-2004, 16:35
It's amazing how quickly this thread turned into an America bashing topic.
Lower Aquatica
17-08-2004, 19:23
The reason the stands have been so empty is because the games started on a weekend during a month when many people in Greece take extended vacations.

May sound silly, but I live in NYC, and this is another city that empties on summer weekends. Add a big event to the mix, and you're likely to get MORE people leaving, because a big event in town doesn't always generate excitement -- often, it makes people think, "my God, the traffic is going to SUCK that weekend...right, I'm leaving for the week."
The Black Forrest
17-08-2004, 19:32
Terrorism might have a hand in it.

But the costs are a factor as well.

The main events are super expensive. I remember a few years ago somebody said he paid over $1000US to watch track and field.

Somebody also told me Greece is not big on Gymnastics and tennis.

It may change if the prices drop but I doubt it.

How much free cash does the average Greek have?
The Black Forrest
17-08-2004, 19:33
It's amazing how quickly this thread turned into an America bashing topic.

Welcome to General!

;)
UpwardThrust
17-08-2004, 19:40
Was looking at going … was looking forward to seeing Europe a bit

But they are right the prices were ridiculous (specially to a mostly broke college student) ouch
Conceptualists
17-08-2004, 20:12
It's amazing how quickly this thread turned into an America bashing topic.
I think Godwin's Law should be rewritten for NS General. Instead of threads degenerating into Nazi comparisons, it should be threads tend to turn into America bashing fests.
Phyrrhoni
17-08-2004, 20:15
As a U.S. American (I wouldn't want to offend those of you whom also live on one of the two American continents, but not in the US), I would have to say that economics and bad public relations are the top two reasons for the thus far poor attendance of the Games.

Economics are certainly a huge blockade for US'ians in terms of attending the games this cycle. While the US may appear to be rolling in dough in comparison to other countries, the fact is as individuals we have far less expendable cash than 4 years ago. Our economy tanked (and contrary to what the White House says is still trashed...check out the latest reports from the Labor Dept. on job creation if you want more details...), the US Dollar is getting spanked by the Euro, and it currently costs more to fly to Greece than Australia. I don't know too many people who can afford the cash outlay just to get to the games, let alone the price of room, board, and tickets.

Secondly, from my perspective at least, the advertising and marketing of this year's Games pale in comparison to the Games held in Sydney 4 years ago. Most of the pre-Games press floating about this cycle focused on the scramble to complete facilities and the completely blown budget. There seemed to be a marked lack of press about the athletes leading up to the games (except bits about drug use), not to mention less internal promotion of the qualifying events. If you don't build hype far enough in advance, people just aren't going to go.

Timing could also be a factor...the Games are fairly close to the end of the Tour de France this year...Lance's 6th straight victory could have easily stolen some of the pre-Games thunder.

Of course there have been some stories about the heightened chance of terrorrism, but honestly I don't think that was the main deterrent for people. Especially since our government currently attributes everything to terrorism...I'm surprised there hasn't been an alert issued saying Hurricane Charley was caused by terrorists...they have weather controlling machines, ya know...
UpwardThrust
17-08-2004, 20:22
Of course there have been some stories about the heightened chance of terrorrism, but honestly I don't think that was the main deterrent for people


True my own decision not to go was between monetary and a growing lack of interest in it

Not because of terrorism … actually never even really crossed my mind

Also agree … I had to look up the dates cause I saw NOTHING on tv. I mean not a SINGLE commercial nothing no real news stories besides the drugs thing…

Too much money spent on building that massive boondoggle facilities that they now have
Lower Aquatica
17-08-2004, 21:22
Also agree … I had to look up the dates cause I saw NOTHING on tv. I mean not a SINGLE commercial nothing no real news stories besides the drugs thing…

Really? Because NBC has been milking the Olympics since, say, June.

Please disregard the above statement if you do not live in the US.n ;)
UpwardThrust
17-08-2004, 21:27
Really? Because NBC has been milking the Olympics since, say, June.

Please disregard the above statement if you do not live in the US.n ;)
I do ... minnesota
THOUGH I stick to mostly satalite channels now :) dont catch much from the "Biggies" anymore like NBC CBS ABC FOX UPN and such

SO I suppose :) Kind of glad
Only reason I would want to go to the Olympics would be an event to go to ... mostly want to tour Europe more then anything