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Kerry straddles both sides of the issues! OMGWTFLOL

Franken4Prez
16-08-2004, 02:57
The Bush camp and all his neo-con buddies have been spewing the same drivel for months:

Kerry is the most liberal member of the senate!! Americans dont want his ideas!!! they are out of the mainstream!!!

Kerry is a flip-flopper!! He is an indecisive person who takes all sides of the issues!!!


If he WAS the most liberal member of the senate, that means he stood by his liberal guns constantly.... but THEN they tell me that he takes both sides of the issues. So which is it, Bushies? I am very confused at this- perhaps you could enlighten me with more of your facts?

Flip-flopper or diehard liberal: He cant be both.
Sydenia
16-08-2004, 02:59
Flip-flopper or diehard liberal: He cant be both.

He can be a diehard liberal who tells people what they want to hear to get elected; a.k.a. "flip-flopping'. Just playing Devil's Advocate mind you, not suggesting that is the actual situation.
Purly Euclid
16-08-2004, 03:04
He can flip-flop if he was consistently liberal in the Senate, but is now doing a boogie to the center.
CSW
16-08-2004, 03:06
He can flip-flop if he was consistently liberal in the Senate, but is now doing a boogie to the center.
Just like Bush is a diehard Conservative but is now doing a boogie to the center. It's called politics ladies and gentlemen. Get over it.
Purly Euclid
16-08-2004, 03:09
Just like Bush is a diehard Conservative but is now doing a boogie to the center. It's called politics ladies and gentlemen. Get over it.
I don't see Bush doing that, however. He's sorta been staying right. It's part of the reason why I've lost faith in Bush.. He hasn't done it.
The Mime
16-08-2004, 03:11
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16-08-2004, 03:14
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Dempublicents
16-08-2004, 03:16
I don't see Bush doing that, however. He's sorta been staying right. It's part of the reason why I've lost faith in Bush.. He hasn't done it.

Is he going back to the center? I pay him very little attention these days. He was pretty much dead-on center in the last election (or at least lieing so that he would appear to be). Since then, he's seemed to be moving further and further right.
Purly Euclid
16-08-2004, 03:17
Is he going back to the center? I pay him very little attention these days. He was pretty much dead-on center in the last election (or at least lieing so that he would appear to be). Since then, he's seemed to be moving further and further right.
He hasn't really. He's staying to the right. I'd admire that in a candidate, though: one that sticks to his guns. It'd make the centrist idea obsolete should Bush win this year.
Dempublicents
16-08-2004, 03:18
He hasn't really. He's staying to the right. I'd admire that in a candidate, though: one that sticks to his guns. It'd make the centrist idea obsolete should Bush win this year.

Do you also admire the fact that he lied on many of his positions so that he could get elected in the first place?
Purly Euclid
16-08-2004, 03:21
Do you also admire the fact that he lied on many of his positions so that he could get elected in the first place?
All politicians do it. Kerry's probably doing it right now. This time, Bush doesn't seem to be lying. His campaign speeches seem consistent with his past four years, so it's pretty safe to assume he'll carry them out, should he get another four years.
Dempublicents
16-08-2004, 03:35
All politicians do it. Kerry's probably doing it right now. This time, Bush doesn't seem to be lying. His campaign speeches seem consistent with his past four years, so it's pretty safe to assume he'll carry them out, should he get another four years.

It's also pretty safe to assume he'll go even farther than his campaign speeches (because he'll have nothing to worry about then). The past four years (and the threat of them continuing even farther into stupidity) are what scares me about Bush.
Purly Euclid
16-08-2004, 03:38
It's also pretty safe to assume he'll go even farther than his campaign speeches (because he'll have nothing to worry about then). The past four years (and the threat of them continuing even farther into stupidity) are what scares me about Bush.
And the next four years, should he be reelected, are what excites me about Bush, for the reason you stated.
Druthulhu
16-08-2004, 03:57
He hasn't really. He's staying to the right. I'd admire that in a candidate, though: one that sticks to his guns. It'd make the centrist idea obsolete should Bush win this year.

Before "election" Bush believed that gay marriage was a state issue, that abortion was a woman's private decision, and that the U.S.A. should not get involved in nation building.

It has ceased to amaze me how his supporters can be such blind unthinking sheep.