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Can anybody give me any info or a link to info about the Illuminati? I've recently dveloped a fascination with them.

Can anybody give me any info or a link to info about the Illuminati? I've recently dveloped a fascination with them.


http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm

Ewige Blumenkraft!

You might also try some encyclopedias. Wikipedia has some information, but actual reference books might be helpful as well, particularly if they can recommend reliable sources.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm

Thanks man! =)

You might also try some encyclopedias. Wikipedia has some information, but actual reference books might be helpful as well, particularly if they can recommend reliable sources.

Thanks.I always though Adam Weishaupt was born in 1723

What the hell is it??

What the hell is it??

A secret group who wish to rule the world with an invisible hand. They believed in "illumination", becoming enlightened through Hatha Yoga meditation.

Thanks man! =)


You are welcome.

Thanks but an invisible hand like how?? Like controlling people?? mentally?? Cause that would be sweet. OH!! Is it like Abes Oddesy for playstation where you can take control of enemies by meditating?? THAT would be freaking sweet.

Ewige Blumenkraft!
WTF? Flowerpower forever?

Thanks man! =)
In case you want a religouse POV. ;)
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/illumin.htm

Thanks but an invisible hand like how?? Like controlling people?? mentally?? Cause that would be sweet. OH!! Is it like Abes Oddesy for playstation where you can take control of enemies by meditating?? THAT would be freaking sweet.

Nothing as crude as that. The Illuminati were extremely wealthy people. They always governed indirectly, by having control of presidents, bankers, foreign relationship councillors. They were both cunning and wealthy. Maybe they still exist, maybe they don't.

The Patriots, anyone?


MGS:2 reference...

The Patriots, anyone?


MGS:2 reference...

I love that game, though if that is true, all the leaders have been dead for ages.

I love that game, though if that is true, all the leaders have been dead for ages.

Yeah, but like the Illuminati, they could have passed on the mantle to knew people. THey always work under cover-names, like the Knights Templar.

fnord

For good reading, try RAW's
Historical Illuminatus Chronicles
Like most of what he writes, truth & folly intertwined.
And MOST DEFINITELY
1, 2, and 3 of Cosmic Trigger.
ABOVE ALL,
Coincidance. That rocked.
Fnord, indeed.

Pu-lease

Seph, I think that link they gave you is inaccurate - Angels and Demons by Dan Brown has much more accurate facts about the Illuminati. I'll give you what I got from the book:

So the early Church is being its (formerly) tyrannical self, trying to supress all knowledge of science. Then Galileo comes along with his very convincing support of the Heliocentric Theory (now fact), so the Church condemns him to house arrest.

Now is when the Illuminati kick in:

While under house arrest, Galileo founds a secret society to topple the Church - The Illuminati. However, being the men of science that the Illuminati members were, they swore to take the Church down and bring about a New (and Secular) World Order through nonviolent political tactics (ever hear of Novus Ordo Seclorum, anyone?).

However because of the omnipresent Church, the Illuminati (in order to protect itself) mingled w/the other "outcasts" of Old Europe (IE Jews, Muslims, etc. They also used the Freemasons as a front). Joining the Illuminati was a bit of a quest - aspiring Illuminati first had to find this one passage in Diagramma (scientific thingie written by Galileo) - which would start them on their quest to find the Illuminati HQ in Rome - the Church of Illumination.

In order to find the CoI, one would have to follow the four tributes to science cleverly hidden as "Christian" tributes within four different Churches/Chapels (For the Four Elements: earth, air, fire, and water; the last one leading to the CoI). Supposedly, they form a kite when plotted on a map of Rome (However the true meaning behind that is the diagonals ironically form a Cross, and where they meet is the CoI)

The Illuminati supposedly dissapated in the 50s

Can anybody give me any info or a link to info about the Illuminati? I've recently dveloped a fascination with them.

enjoyed angels and demons?

I thought it was the same as the davinchi code.

Seph, I think that link they gave you is inaccurate - Angels and Demons by Dan Brown has much more accurate facts about the Illuminati. I'll give you what I got from the book:

So the early Church is being its (formerly) tyrannical self, trying to supress all knowledge of science. Then Galileo comes along with his very convincing support of the Heliocentric Theory (now fact), so the Church condemns him to house arrest.

Now is when the Illuminati kick in:

While under house arrest, Galileo founds a secret society to topple the Church - The Illuminati. However, being the men of science that the Illuminati members were, they swore to take the Church down and bring about a New (and Secular) World Order through nonviolent political tactics (ever hear of Novus Ordo Seclorum, anyone?).

However because of the omnipresent Church, the Illuminati (in order to protect itself) mingled w/the other "outcasts" of Old Europe (IE Jews, Muslims, etc. They also used the Freemasons as a front). Joining the Illuminati was a bit of a quest - aspiring Illuminati first had to find this one passage in Diagramma (scientific thingie written by Galileo) - which would start them on their quest to find the Illuminati HQ in Rome - the Church of Illumination.

In order to find the CoI, one would have to follow the four tributes to science cleverly hidden as "Christian" tributes within four different Churches/Chapels (For the Four Elements: earth, air, fire, and water; the last one leading to the CoI). Supposedly, they form a kite when plotted on a map of Rome (However the true meaning behind that is the diagonals ironically form a Cross, and where they meet is the CoI)

The Illuminati supposedly dissapated in the 50s

Nope, it's called the US goverment.
>> Novus Ordo Seclorum = New World Order
>> The same NWO founded by George Bush Sr after Gulf War I ...
>> Look at the US 1 dollar bill!

Nope, it's called the US goverment
>> Look at the US 1 dollar bill!

Yes, I know there were Illuminati in the US govt - FDR's VP Henry Wallace was the Illuminatus who put Novus Ordo Seclorum on the dollar bill

Nope, it's called the US goverment.
>> Novus Ordo Seclorum = New World Order
>> The same NWO founded by George Bush Sr after Gulf War I ...
>> Look at the US 1 dollar bill!

except that novus ordo seclorum means "a new order of the ages"

Yes, I know there were Illuminati in the US govt - FDR's VP Henry Wallace was the Illuminatus who put Novus Ordo Seclorum on the dollar bill


he was just a mason godanmit!

not everything is a conspiricy

s-P

he was just a mason godanmit!

not everything is a conspiricy

s-P

Yes, I know FDR was the Mason- yet I have heard from many sources that his VP Wallace was an Illuminatus

Dob
Hashish
Kevin Mitnick
Ring any bells?

Can anybody give me any info or a link to info about the Illuminati? I've recently dveloped a fascination with them.

Here are some great books I could recommend:

1.Einige Originalschriften des Illuminatenordens (Munich, 1787);

2.Nachtrag von weiteren Originalschriften (Munich, 1787)

3.Die neuesten Arbeiten des Spartacus und Philo in dem Illuminatenorden (Munich, 1794)

4.Der Geheimbund der Illuminaten, Richard van Dülmen, ed. (Stuttgart-Bad Cannstatt: Frommann-Holzboog, 1977)

5.La Conjuration des Illuminés by Henry Coston (Paris: La Librairie Française, 1979).

6.Proofs of a Conspiracy Against All the Religions and Governments of Europe by John Robison (New York: George Forman, 1798; reprint edition, Boston: Western Islands, 1967)

7.Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism, 4 vols. by Abbé Augustin Barruel's (London: T. Burton, 1797-1798)

8.World Revolution by Nesta H. Webster (Boston: Small, Maynard and Co., 1921) reprinted with an index and bibliography (Devon, England, 1971)

9.Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, also by Webster (London: Boswell, 1924)

10.Fire in the Minds of Men: The Origins of the Revolutionary Faith by James H. Billington (New York: Basic Books, 1980)

11."Croquis ou Project de Revolution de Monsieur de Mirabeau" from Mystäres de la Conspiration (Paris 1791)

12."Les Idées de Mirabeau sur la Franc-Maconnerie" from Révolution Française (October 1882)

13.Scheme for the Political Penetration of Freemasonry, also by Mirabeu (Transactions of the Quatuor Coronati Lodge, vol. LVII, 1944, pp. 138-148)

Hope you're fluent in French and German. ;)

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yet I have heard from many sources that his VP Wallace was an Illuminatus
Like?

Now is when the Illuminati kick in:

While under house arrest, Galileo founds a secret society to topple the Church - The [b]Illuminati[/b

Wrong. The Illuminati was founded by Adam Weishaupt, and it was founded in 1776, long after Galileo's time.

Wrong. The Illuminati was founded by Adam Weishaupt, and it was founded in 1776, long after Galileo's time.
Not according to Dan Brown :eyesroll:

Which seems to be where he is getting all his information from.