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Euro or Dollar?

Seosavists
15-08-2004, 19:25
Euro Is Better That Dollar!
Colodia
15-08-2004, 19:27
Dollar pwns

http://www.personal.psu.edu/mcc171/dollar.jpg

I mean look at it!
Sugar Free Lollypops
15-08-2004, 19:32
The pound is the best because it's the strongest currency. There are almost 2 dollars in a pound and nearly 1.5 euros in a pound. Euro's all look the same because they're all circular and have silver and brass in.

£££££££££££££££Keep the pound£££££££££££££££££££££
Borgoa
15-08-2004, 19:34
I voted for the euro, as that's how i voted in the referendum here a few months ago.
We lost though, so it's still crowns for now.
Seosavists
15-08-2004, 19:34
http://www.cortland.edu/flteach/euro-1.jpg
The Brotherhood of Nod
15-08-2004, 19:40
Euro coins are gold & silvercolored, nice and shiny :)
Divine Caandolos
15-08-2004, 19:42
Well, the Euro is currently worth more than the dollar, so I pick the Euro.
Kwangistar
15-08-2004, 19:43
The dollar
Seosavists
15-08-2004, 19:43
Euro's all look the same because they're all circular and have silver and brass in.

And thats different than any other currency how?
Conceptualists
15-08-2004, 19:43
The pound is the best because it's the strongest currency. There are almost 2 dollars in a pound and nearly 1.5 euros in a pound. Euro's all look the same because they're all circular and have silver and brass in.
Sterling looks all the same because they're all circular and have silver and Brass in.

£££££££££££££££Keep the pound£££££££££££££££££££££
One word question. Why?

And please do not use the following.
Keep the pound because the pound is British.
Because I have always known the pound.
Anything relating to losing sovereignty and being run by Brussels.
Seosavists
15-08-2004, 19:46
Sterling looks all the same because they're all circular.

Except 20p WOW IT HAS SIDES
Awesomefullness
15-08-2004, 19:48
Ok, Obviously, the dollar has to win. Who cares that a pound is worth 1.8 something dollars, all that means is harder international transactions. The dollar wins becasue it is backed purely by the might of the US army. The dollar is worth what its worth because WE say so, and I dare any of you to dispute that.
Purly Euclid
15-08-2004, 19:48
I'd have to say the dollar. It's the currency of choice for quite a few transactions across the world, as it is backed up by the world's most lucrative market. China's even pegged the yuan to the dollar, which I don't agree with, but shows the power of the dollar.
The euro may in fact be better, but it's relatively new, and untested. The dollar has remained stable through many crises in decades past, and was often used as a hedge for overseas investors. As for the yen? That's a very great currency, but I can't understand how it was allowed to stay at that value, even with the economic boom Japan had over the last few decades.
The Anathema
15-08-2004, 19:49
I voted for the Euro, because it's worth more then the dollar currently and the bills sure are an improvement over the ol' Dutch guilders in the looks department. And of course because I live here...

Still I think that the Brits would do well to stick to their own currency.
Conceptualists
15-08-2004, 19:49
Except 20p WOW IT HAS SIDES
From http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=circular

cir·cu·lar ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sûrky-lr)
adj.
1. Of or relating to a circle.

2 a Shaped like or nearly like a circle; round.
b Moving in or forming a circle.

You could have also used a 50p, but what the hey. I think you would agree that a 20p piece is shaped like or nearly like a circle.
Seosavists
15-08-2004, 19:53
yeah your right http://sidereus.org/library/sterling.jpg
Sugar Free Lollypops
15-08-2004, 19:56
Sterling looks all the same because they're all circular and have silver and Brass in.


One word question. Why?

And please do not use the following.
Keep the pound because the pound is British.
Because I have always known the pound.
Anything relating to losing sovereignty and being run by Brussels.

Actually you are completely wrong. Sterling are either brass, silver or gold colour and come in a range of shapes.

http://www.vs-rattelsdorf.bnv-bamberg.de/EProjekt/E37.jpg

We should keep the pound because we changed once in the 70s and changing again would cause more inflation. Another reason is that we shouldn't let our economy be affected by other european economies which are weaker
Seosavists
15-08-2004, 19:58
its craptacular and thats still circular
Conceptualists
15-08-2004, 20:02
Actually you are completely wrong. Sterling are either brass, silver or gold colour and come in a range of shapes.

But all the shapes are circular. Their is only one with Gold in it. I was right, all sterling coin are made of brass and silver with maybe one exception (although iirc £ coin does have brass in it), and they are all circular.

They may come in a range of shapes (3), but all the shapes are circular.

http://www.vs-rattelsdorf.bnv-bamberg.de/EProjekt/E37.jpg

Thank you, but I don't need it. I have some real life examples here in my pocket.


We should keep the pound because we changed once in the 70s and changing again would cause more inflation.

I'm sure this is fallacious. (Non sequiter?)

Care to cite/prove this?

Another reason is that we shouldn't let our economy be affected by other european economies which are weaker

How will other nations do this to a greater extent then they can do now?
Sugar Free Lollypops
15-08-2004, 20:04
its craptacular and thats still circular

I care not for the definitions of the word circular. However I believe that Euros are quite hard to tell apart from each other because they do look much more similar than Sterling.

Just compare the photos http://sidereus.org/library/sterling.jpg and http://sidereus.org/library/sterling.jpg while bearing in mind they are both roughly the same size.
Purly Euclid
15-08-2004, 20:06
So, no one else likes the dollar? If nothing else, admit that they look cool. It's green, and with the currency revamping coming up, it'll have a splash of blue and peach.
Suicidal Librarians
15-08-2004, 20:08
¤The dollar, just because.¤
Jonothana
15-08-2004, 20:09
££££££££££££££ Keep The Pound (Conservatives) £££££££££££££££££££££

We should keep the pound because the pound is stronger. And its Brittish blah blah blah. Anyway, the Brittish people (including me) don't want the Euro (or the dollar for that matter).
Seosavists
15-08-2004, 20:12
I care not for the definitions of the word circular. However I believe that Euros are quite hard to tell apart from each other because they do look much more similar than Sterling.

Just compare the photos http://sidereus.org/library/sterling.jpg and http://sidereus.org/library/sterling.jpg while bearing in mind they are both roughly the same size.
They arent that alike and you have the same picture twice
Sugar Free Lollypops
15-08-2004, 20:14
££££££££££££££ Keep The Pound (Conservatives) £££££££££££££££££££££

We should keep the pound because the pound is stronger. And its Brittish blah blah blah. Anyway, the Brittish people (including me) don't want the Euro (or the dollar for that matter).

Here here! As for you Conceptualists, read all about it here!

http://www.royalmint.com/talk/goingdecimal.asp
Sugar Free Lollypops
15-08-2004, 20:15
They arent that alike and you have the same picture twice

Sorry, the second picture should be http://www.cortland.edu/flteach/euro-1.jpg
Conceptualists
15-08-2004, 20:15
I care not for the definitions of the word circular.

Why did you use it then?

However I believe that Euros are quite hard to tell apart from each other because they do look much more similar than Sterling.

Agree.
Conceptualists
15-08-2004, 20:17
Here here! As for you Conceptualists, read all about it here!

http://www.royalmint.com/talk/goingdecimal.asp
And this proves what exactly?
Sugar Free Lollypops
15-08-2004, 20:22
http://www.royalmint.com/talk/goingdecimal.aspAnd this proves what exactly?

This proves that my previous quote:-

"We should keep the pound because we changed once in the 70s and changing again would cause more inflation."

is not fallacious.
Seosavists
15-08-2004, 20:22
you can tell euros apart by the numbers on the coins!
Conceptualists
15-08-2004, 20:27
http://www.royalmint.com/talk/goingdecimal.asp

This proves that my previous quote:-

"We should keep the pound because we changed once in the 70s and changing again would cause more inflation."

is not fallacious.
How?

The website you posted only timelines the switch to decimal, does not contain the word inflation. Nor does it prove that switching to the Euro will cause inflation.

It only says that in the past half century there has been a switch to decimal currency, which I knew already.
Disco pimp
15-08-2004, 20:28
of course the dollar has to win. worldwide it is the most recognizable and accepted form of currency. Also, as mentioned, the might of one nation stands behind the dollar. The Euro exists only as a last-ditch effort for the independent European nations to have some economic equallity with the US. Sure, the Euro is worth more at the moment, but what would each countries' original currency be valued at if their economys' had to go head-to-head with the US again?
Conceptualists
15-08-2004, 20:32
of course the dollar has to win. worldwide it is the most recognizable and accepted form of currency. Also, as mentioned, the might of one nation stands behind the dollar. The Euro exists only as a last-ditch effort for the independent European nations to have some economic equallity with the US. Sure, the Euro is worth more at the moment, but what would each countries' original currency be valued at if their economys' had to go head-to-head with the US again?
You may as well reverse the arguement to make the Euro the better currency.
Seosavists
15-08-2004, 20:35
well the irish pound would be worth more than the dollar by about 50c since it was worth more than the euro. and what do you mean 'last ditch effort'
Von Witzleben
15-08-2004, 20:37
you can tell euros apart by the numbers on the coins!
:eek: hehehe..clever. :D :D
Seosavists
15-08-2004, 20:40
yay euro's wining 14-13-2
Kwangistar
15-08-2004, 20:41
How will other nations do this to a greater extent then they can do now?
Because now the value of your currency isn't effected by their regular breaching of the Growth and Stability pact - when their economies are bad, they're going to deficit spend. Also, if the British economy is doing well while continental (particularly France and Germany's) economies are doing not so well, monetary policy at the ECB could go contrary to Britain's interests.
Clam Fart Ampersand
15-08-2004, 20:41
Ok, Obviously, the dollar has to win. Who cares that a pound is worth 1.8 something dollars, all that means is harder international transactions. The dollar wins becasue it is backed purely by the might of the US army. The dollar is worth what its worth because WE say so, and I dare any of you to dispute that.

I dispute it, even though I'm American. So what if the dollar is backed by the might of the US Army? It's not like anybody's going to doubt what little a dollar's worth, or care for that matter. I can't remember which president took us off the gold standard--wasn't it Nixon?--but that was a pretty stupid idea, because we went from that to silver to our delightful new system of credit. The British pound is way better. Gold standard pwns j00 back.
Conceptualists
15-08-2004, 20:43
Because now the value of your currency isn't effected by their regular breaching of the Growth and Stability pact - when their economies are bad, they're going to deficit spend. Also, if the British economy is doing well while continental (particularly France and Germany's) economies are doing not so well, monetary policy at the ECB could go contrary to Britain's interests.

Not to hard.

Actually, this is one of the arguements which kinda keeps me on the side of the pound (still undecided though).

Just wanted to move the debate away from "The Pounds British" etc.
Clam Fart Ampersand
15-08-2004, 20:44
of course the dollar has to win. worldwide it is the most recognizable and accepted form of currency. Also, as mentioned, the might of one nation stands behind the dollar. The Euro exists only as a last-ditch effort for the independent European nations to have some economic equallity with the US. Sure, the Euro is worth more at the moment, but what would each countries' original currency be valued at if their economys' had to go head-to-head with the US again?

Good point, but then, what about Britain? Everybody's currency sucks next to the pound, which reigns as the most stable, and valuable, currency around.
Conceptualists
15-08-2004, 20:44
I dispute it, even though I'm American. So what if the dollar is backed by the might of the US Army? It's not like anybody's going to doubt what little a dollar's worth, or care for that matter. I can't remember which president took us off the gold standard--wasn't it Nixon?--but that was a pretty stupid idea, because we went from that to silver to our delightful new system of credit. The British pound is way better. Gold standard pwns j00 back.
Isn't Britain off the Gold standard too?
FallschrimmJager
15-08-2004, 20:48
The pound is the best because it's the strongest currency. There are almost 2 dollars in a pound and nearly 1.5 euros in a pound. Euro's all look the same because they're all circular and have silver and brass in.

£££££££££££££££Keep the pound£££££££££££££££££££££
While I am an American and the dollar owns most world currency in appearence--it is physically stronger.

The pound, is a economically the badass.
I hope the EU doesnt ruin that.
Clam Fart Ampersand
15-08-2004, 20:49
Isn't Britain off the Gold standard too?

I don't think so. I could be wrong, though.
Gigatron
15-08-2004, 20:57
€€€ Euro €€€
Its new, its strong, its beautiful.

And it can singlehandedly "oppose" the U$ dollar. Old, outdated, overused, weak. It is time to rid the world of it. The British pound never played much of a role.
Josephland
15-08-2004, 20:58
This whole question is moot. Currency is worth nothing; it's just pieces of paper or metal. The only thing that gives it value is people who think it's valuable.
Seosavists
15-08-2004, 21:03
yes lets go back to bartering ill give 10 chickens for your cow [sarcasm]
FallschrimmJager
15-08-2004, 21:07
€€€ Euro €€€
Its new, its strong, its beautiful.

And it can singlehandedly "oppose" the U$ dollar. Old, outdated, overused, weak. It is time to rid the world of it. The British pound never played much of a role.
Oppose the Dollar?
The yen opposed the dollar, not anymore but it did.
The only currency that has consistantly out valued the dollar is the Pound.
The almighty pound.
The only currency that will ever consistantly out value the dollar is the pound, and that is only true if the Brits dont let the EU and the Euro ruin their economy.
Von Witzleben
15-08-2004, 21:08
yes lets go back to bartering ill give 10 chickens for your cow [sarcasm]
I'll give you 10 cows for your daughter. :D
Josephland
15-08-2004, 21:08
yes lets go back to bartering ill give 10 chickens for your cow [sarcasm]
I'd rather kill you and take your chickens. [sarcasm?]
El Aguila
15-08-2004, 21:10
I believe the old Iraqi Dinar WAS worth more than a U.S. Dollar also. Did this make the Iraqi Dinar better than the Dollar?

If it was; how come hypocrite Saddam Hussein had hordes of U.S. Dollars?
Gigatron
15-08-2004, 21:12
Oppose the Dollar?
The yen opposed the dollar, not anymore but it did.
The only currency that has consistantly out valued the dollar is the Pound.
The almighty pound.
The only currency that will ever consistantly out value the dollar is the pound, and that is only true if the Brits dont let the EU and the Euro ruin their economy.
The € outperforms the U$ dollar since quite some time. Just wait when we overtake your ex-leadership role in the currency department... muahahahaha!!!
Conceptualists
15-08-2004, 21:14
I'll give you 10 cows for your daughter. :D
I was in Egypt with a friend and asked by a shop owner if he could buy her for 50 camels.
Seosavists
15-08-2004, 21:15
This whole question is moot. Currency is worth nothing; it's just pieces of paper or metal. The only thing that gives it value is people who think it's valuable.
I was responding to that
Predalia
15-08-2004, 21:19
of course the dollar has to win. worldwide it is the most recognizable and accepted form of currency. Also, as mentioned, the might of one nation stands behind the dollar. The Euro exists only as a last-ditch effort for the independent European nations to have some economic equallity with the US. Sure, the Euro is worth more at the moment, but what would each countries' original currency be valued at if their economys' had to go head-to-head with the US again?

That would be the military might. Anarchy still rules the world, the guy with the biggest gun has the final word, i would like to see US cities on fire and bombs raining just so they could be in the wrong end for once, hell, i must even admit i smiley at 9/11, it was sick, but, they deserved it dammit!
Gigatron
15-08-2004, 21:20
That would be the military might. Anarchy still rules the world, the guy with the biggest gun has the final word, i would like to see US cities on fire and bombs raining just so they could be in the wrong end for once, hell, i must even admit i smiley at 9/11, it was sick, but, they deserved it dammit!
Word!
El Aguila
15-08-2004, 21:31
I believe the old Iraqi Dinar WAS worth more than a U.S. Dollar also. Did this make the Iraqi Dinar better than the Dollar?

If it was; how come hypocrite Saddam Hussein had hordes of U.S. Dollars?
If a better currency is based on the exchange rate...which it is not. Then some of the select few countries that have a "better" currency than the U.S. TODAY are:

Bahrain
The Euro
Cyprus
Jordan
Kuwait
Latvia
Malta
Oman
Tajikistan
U.K.

For you "Europhiles" the following countries have a "better" currency than yours:

Bahrain
Cyprus
Jordan
Kuwait
Latvia
Malta
Oman
Tajikistan (Same As)
U.K.

And for you "UKphiles" the following countries have a "better" currency than yours:

Bahrain
Cyprus
Kuwait
Latvia
Malta
Oman

QUESTION: Does having a "better" exchange rate mean your currency is REALLY better?
El Aguila
15-08-2004, 21:35
That would be the military might. Anarchy still rules the world, the guy with the biggest gun has the final word, i would like to see US cities on fire and bombs raining just so they could be in the wrong end for once, hell, i must even admit i smiley at 9/11, it was sick, but, they deserved it dammit!
Envy is the root of all evil.
Enodscopia
15-08-2004, 21:37
Dollars all the way. GOD BLESS AMERICA
Swedish Dominions
15-08-2004, 21:48
SWEDISH CROWN ALL THE WAY!!!!!

http://w1.435.telia.com/~u43505984/100kr-1987f.jpg

http://www.billigast.se/bilder/100kr.jpg

http://svt.se/content/1/c6/11/84/18/kronor_290.jpg
FallschrimmJager
15-08-2004, 21:49
The € outperforms the U$ dollar since quite some time. Just wait when we overtake your ex-leadership role in the currency department... muahahahaha!!!
I said the pound is the ONLY currency to consistantly out value the dollar.
For decades.
A another nations currency might rise above the dollar on occasion, but the pound, has it ever been worth less then the dollar?
The Viking Warlords
15-08-2004, 21:51
EURO owns the pound or dollar

:sniper: :mp5:
Seosavists
15-08-2004, 21:51
The Euro will should be used more than the $. Except oil maybe.
The Force Majeure
15-08-2004, 21:54
I don't think so. I could be wrong, though.

The pound is not backed by gold
The Force Majeure
15-08-2004, 21:57
I said the pound is the ONLY currency to consistantly out value the dollar.
For decades.
A another nations currency might rise above the dollar on occasion, but the pound, has it ever been worth less then the dollar?

It's all relative - you can't really compare currencies...look at how many yen a dollar is worth. So what?
Zeppistan
15-08-2004, 22:11
Call me crazy, I'm partial to the one with the best sport in the world on the back....

http://www.coins-and-banknotes.com/bilder/S21395.jpg

But, of course, when travelling in this hemisphere I carry those dull green things from south of the border. They are more universally accepted.

Let's face it - currency is only as good as where you want to use it. In Britain I carry sterling. In Europe the Euro, etc.
Ageofdunedeath
15-08-2004, 22:14
That would be the military might. Anarchy still rules the world, the guy with the biggest gun has the final word, i would like to see US cities on fire and bombs raining just so they could be in the wrong end for once, hell, i must even admit i smiley at 9/11, it was sick, but, they deserved it dammit!

Why exactly did we deserve it? It would be bad enough if it was just the Pentagon that got hit, but when you factor in the World Trade Center towers...THAT we did not deserve. I am not saying we deserved the Pentagon attack, but at least it didn't wipe as many INNOCENT CIVILIANS out. The people in the WTC did not do ANYTHING except live in the U.S. Is that such a bad thing? Sounds like massive national hate issues here. Please, don't say stuff like that....it is cruel.
Moose In A Tin
15-08-2004, 22:57
i prefer the euro - its like monopoly money so you don't feel guilty spending it :D
Colodia
15-08-2004, 23:02
Why exactly did we deserve it? It would be bad enough if it was just the Pentagon that got hit, but when you factor in the World Trade Center towers...THAT we did not deserve. I am not saying we deserved the Pentagon attack, but at least it didn't wipe as many INNOCENT CIVILIANS out. The people in the WTC did not do ANYTHING except live in the U.S. Is that such a bad thing? Sounds like massive national hate issues here. Please, don't say stuff like that....it is cruel.
I agree. People like that are among the sickest people in the world.

I wanted to see the Iraqi government, I NEVER wanted to see Iraqi sities on fire and being rained upon by bombs.

The person you quoted deserves what he wants to happen to America. Hell, he probably doesn't even deserve his own shit. But I'm a nice guy.
Mr Basil Fawlty
15-08-2004, 23:12
The pound is the best because it's the strongest currency. There are almost 2 dollars in a pound and nearly 1.5 euros in a pound. Euro's all look the same because they're all circular and have silver and brass in.

£££££££££££££££Keep the pound£££££££££££££££££££££

Let me say you that an expensive currency is not the same as a good one.
The £ does not do well regarding the BNP of the UK and it's doomed position against the €. The pound is expensive and that hits the UK exports and it's citizens have problems to buy homemade products because they are to expensive, cuz of the £.

Of course the now irrelivant pound will no longer exist in the era of the €,$, Yen and Chinese currency. ;) :p
Gaupe
15-08-2004, 23:30
I do no know if this picture has been shown before in this debate - if it has not, now you will forever see that picture on the eurocoins, and if it has been shown previously, it is just so funny that......

so - I go for euro and Norway to join :D
Hajekistan
16-08-2004, 05:17
Does the Euro come in paper form? I'm to lazy to sort through all the "pr0n" and "By kool stuf for free (just give us your credit card number, we swear we won't use it)" ads to find the answer through a web search.
If the answer is no, than the Euro gets my vote!
When I look for a prefered currency I try to find the one that, when stuffed into a sock, makes a good bludgeoning weapon. The only way to kill someone with paper money is to shove it down their throat 'til the choke or burying them in money and then setting fire to it Even then you have to be sure you bind them with chains first. It is so annoying to bind them with ropes and then have the ropes burn off, allowing them to run wall over the place, getting ash and mess all over the floor.
Vasily Chuikov
16-08-2004, 05:46
I believe its a strategy that you can weaken you're currency so as to make trade more favorable to you... remember, in 2001 I believe, the Euro was down to 88 cents. It had started at about 1.5 $, correct me if I'm wrong please. So that rate could change yet again and the dollar would be worth more. It really doesn't matter... the $ is used because the United States has the cultural, economic, and mindset centers, and is very stable. The fact that Europe has just formed a full fledged currency union works against it, it would have to be stable for decades.

Anyway, I like the pound sterling, it used to be worth 4 US dollars back in the day.. (the day being the 1940's)


But honestly...how about the Swiss Franc? Their stable, prosperous, and they offend no one. Let's hear a cheer for Switzerland!
Sileetris
16-08-2004, 06:48
Pick your poison:

http://truthseeker.realisticpolitics.com/img/freemasonry03.gif

http://www.nok-benin.co.uk/Imagenok/Amex_mason.jpg
EvilGnomes
16-08-2004, 08:33
Next person to refer to the US dollar as "the dollar" must face my ninja.
:mp5: :mp5:

It's currenciest. What about the Australian Dollar? the New Zealand Dollar? Many countries call their currency "The Dollar"

Call ut US$ of U$ if you can't be bothered to type it.

And for all you "The Almighty Pound" people, calm down. You're getting a little bit too aroused over the thought of currency.
Colodia
16-08-2004, 08:43
Pick your poison:

http://truthseeker.realisticpolitics.com/img/freemasonry03.gif

http://www.nok-benin.co.uk/Imagenok/Amex_mason.jpg
ever played Kingdom Hearts? The badguy's name is Ansem (pronounced: Anson)

if you word the words in the circles correctly....hmm...

Kingdom Hearts = Jews?
Yarahistan
16-08-2004, 09:39
I voted "other" because both the US dollar and the euro are performing pretty badly. Both the German mark and the Dutch guilder were stronger, but unfortunately they don't exist anymore.

If I have to choose between the US dollar and the euro, right now the euro is undeniably stronger. A year from now that may change, but for now the US become cheaper every day for me (as a European). The fact that the US have a stronger army doesn't change that.
Gigatron
16-08-2004, 10:04
I voted "other" because both the US dollar and the euro are performing pretty badly. Both the German mark and the Dutch guilder were stronger, but unfortunately they don't exist anymore.

If I have to choose between the US dollar and the euro, right now the euro is undeniably stronger. A year from now that may change, but for now the US become cheaper every day for me (as a European). The fact that the US have a stronger army doesn't change that.
The German Mark was not stronger. The value of DM to Euro is 1,96:1
The Communazi Party
16-08-2004, 10:26
I`ll fight tooth and nail to keep the Pound Sterling.....down with the Euro may it crash and burn in hell!!!!!
Gigatron
16-08-2004, 10:30
I`ll fight tooth and nail to keep the Pound Sterling.....down with the Euro may it crash and burn in hell!!!!!
Ditto for the British pound!!!! Burn in Hell Fucking Pound Sterlingstinks!!!!
Dalradia
16-08-2004, 10:44
What's all this balls about "the pound is stronger because it's worth $2"? True, the pound is very strong today, but the strength of a given currency varies daily, so what? That doesn't make it a better or worse currency.

The dollar is almost certainly the currency of choice at present, as oil, gold and most other international markets are priced in dollars.

The Euro is an ascending currency however, and there is talk of shifting trade from the dollar to the Euro in future, certainly in the oil market. This is largely due to the USA's antagonistic foreign policy upsetting the international community, who now wish to move away from dependence on the dollar. The Euro is an obvious choice, as it has been set up as an international currency.

Britain should of course keep the pound. Current interest rates in the euro zone is half that of the UK. Because of the structure of the British financial markets our economy will overheat if interest rates are halved. It is necessary for Britain to keep control of interest rates, and therefore keep control of the economy.
Dragons Bay
16-08-2004, 10:52
Euro, mainly because the design looks better than the US dollar.
Yarahistan
16-08-2004, 11:47
The German Mark was not stronger. The value of DM to Euro is 1,96:1

The strength of a currency is not how much it's worth but how stable it is. The Mark and the Guilder were both rock solid. The Euro is all over the place.
Superpower07
16-08-2004, 11:57
I'm going with the Euro 'cause it's stronger (economic-wise) than the American Dollar.
The Saucy Islands
16-08-2004, 11:59
pound
Contranua
16-08-2004, 12:00
Ok, Obviously, the dollar has to win. Who cares that a pound is worth 1.8 something dollars, all that means is harder international transactions. The dollar wins becasue it is backed purely by the might of the US army. The dollar is worth what its worth because WE say so, and I dare any of you to dispute that.

i support the pound!! dollar and euro sux european union is s**t usa army is just a vast pile of s**t and they all think they are john wayne for f**k sake and keep killing their ALLIES :mad: george bush is dangerously stupid (but tony blair is an ass hole)
Purevle
16-08-2004, 12:02
I'm Scottish and support us moving to the Euro, yet Blair won't, that's why I say Scotland should get indipendance!

*On topic.

I think the Euro is the best idea because it unties (most) of Europe, so you can go abroad without bothering to change currency (especially good news for backpackers).

Also, what dollar are you talking about? Canadian, Austraillian, American (I'm sure there's more, like New Zealand, but I can't think of any).

Also, if you look at the front of a 1 Euro coin (the map of the EU) you'll notice, as Norway isn't/wasn't (I'm not sure) part of the EU, it gives Scandinavia an unsettling shape (thanks Have I Got News For You).
Contranua
16-08-2004, 12:04
Ditto for the British pound!!!! Burn in Hell Fucking Pound Sterlingstinks!!!!your such a dickwad, from my experiance all german ppl i have met are self loving pompous wankers that have no friends
Dacowookies
16-08-2004, 12:20
the best currency is the one that's most stable at the time, and we keep sterling because it is so, also we are an island and always feel slightly removed from the rest of europe, made worse from the ridiculous laws (how straight a cucumber should be etc.) coming from brussels. we will have the euro in the uk one day but not for some time yet. i'm also surprised blair hansn,t suggested we use the us dollar, seeing how far up bush's ringpiece he is :)
Seosavists
16-08-2004, 12:29
also we are an island and always feel slightly removed from the rest of europe, made worse from the ridiculous laws (how straight a cucumber should be etc.) coming from brussels.
I pretty sure those laws are nothing but urban legends and absolutely false and Ireland is an Island and its got the Euro.
Seosavists
16-08-2004, 12:32
Does the Euro come in paper form?
Coins= 1c 2c 5c 10c 20c 50c €1 €2
Paper= €5 €10 €20 €50/ not so common €100 €200 €500

YES I THE POLL SHOULD BE US $
Dacowookies
16-08-2004, 12:34
true, and i visit ireland often and they had no problem introducing the euro, but the thought of it scares many in the uk, epecially the older population; personally i would like to see it here because i do business with europeans and it would make trade much easier...
Dalekia
16-08-2004, 13:06
true, and i visit ireland often and they had no problem introducing the euro, but the thought of it scares many in the uk, epecially the older population; personally i would like to see it here because i do business with europeans and it would make trade much easier...
The general populace in Italy seems to think that prices have skyrocketed after the euro replaced the lire. Much of it seems to be hype and I don't know if they can blame the euro for it. Maybe the fault lies with the Italians themselves. Besides, no business can just arbitrarily hike up prices, except Microsoft.

The dollar certainly is more important at the moment, but I thoroughly support the Euro. One on the bigger problems with the Euro are some of the European governments who couldn't care less about the Stability Pact, which has an impact on the Euro as well.
Alarian Mountain
16-08-2004, 15:05
I voted "other" because both the US dollar and the euro are performing pretty badly. Both the German mark and the Dutch guilder were stronger, but unfortunately they don't exist anymore.

If I have to choose between the US dollar and the euro, right now the euro is undeniably stronger. A year from now that may change, but for now the US become cheaper every day for me (as a European). The fact that the US have a stronger army doesn't change that.

they killed the mark?????

*cries*

Baka European union.. sigh.. i knew it was a bad idea.. stealing national identity.. always a bad thing!!
Kwangistar
16-08-2004, 15:09
The general populace in Italy seems to think that prices have skyrocketed after the euro replaced the lire. Much of it seems to be hype and I don't know if they can blame the euro for it. Maybe the fault lies with the Italians themselves. Besides, no business can just arbitrarily hike up prices, except Microsoft.

If the lire was for some reason artificially high, then the Euro came in, imported products and even domestic products that used imported material would be more expensive, its not (usually) a matter of companies trying to take advantage of the switch.
Alarian Mountain
16-08-2004, 15:26
That would be the military might. Anarchy still rules the world, the guy with the biggest gun has the final word, i would like to see US cities on fire and bombs raining just so they could be in the wrong end for once, hell, i must even admit i smiley at 9/11, it was sick, but, they deserved it dammit!

noone deserved this.. all it did was serve as a wakeup call.. a very bad.. wake up call.. to a new wave of very bad things.. I once found a saying..

The us invariably does the right thing.. after first examining every other alternative.

unfortunately.. it led to a serious overkill of the other alternative path.. and their were plenty of non americans in those towers too..

no.. noone deserved it, just like noone ever deserves any of the evil that happens to them.
Hajekistan
16-08-2004, 16:02
After careful consideration, I have decided to go with the original currency, thats right, I want my economy based on . . .
HUMAN SOULS!
Yes it may be a bit of a stretch. Yes, it is hard to collect when the pay is due and it is kind of hard to produce at your local WAR-MART. However, think of it, an entire economy based on HUMAN SOULS. Everyone would have some amount of money, at least until they've used up their HUMAN SOUL, and then you just need to go out looking for a few beggars to use. The only problem would be if to many HUMAN SOULS flooded the market, causing the caust of Immortality to rise exponentionally. However, as proven by many fine sources (such as Faust) the fluctuation in value of the HUMAN SOUL can be kept under careful control by having people followed around by hideous demons who annoy the crap out of them and make them unhappy for the rest of their lives. I don't know how this helps, but it does, and I could use the work.
Seosavists
16-08-2004, 16:08
Yes that would fall under other lol
Ceurope
16-08-2004, 16:11
Ceuro!
Seosavists
16-08-2004, 16:33
Worldo
Alf Ganistan
16-08-2004, 17:04
Let me say you that an expensive currency is not the same as a good one.
The £ does not do well regarding the BNP of the UK and it's doomed position against the €. The pound is expensive and that hits the UK exports and it's citizens have problems to buy homemade products because they are to expensive, cuz of the £.

Of course the now irrelivant pound will no longer exist in the era of the €,$, Yen and Chinese currency. ;) :p

We do not have a doomed position towards the euro. We have 5 economic targets to reach before we will consider joining. Waiting a few years to see whether it is successful might be seen as a wise decision.
Gigatron
16-08-2004, 17:11
We do not have a doomed position towards the euro. We have 5 economic targets to reach before we will consider joining. Waiting a few years to see whether it is successful might be seen as a wise decision.
The € exists since 5 years now and it is successful whereas the american dollar is losing importance worldwide - no wonder with an impotent and bloated country behind it.
Alf Ganistan
16-08-2004, 17:11
true, and i visit ireland often and they had no problem introducing the euro, but the thought of it scares many in the uk, epecially the older population; personally i would like to see it here because i do business with europeans and it would make trade much easier...

A beer in Ireland cost u about 4 or 5 euros. What's goin on there
Seosavists
16-08-2004, 17:16
Tax!!!
Purevle
20-08-2004, 21:12
made worse from the ridiculous laws (how straight a cucumber should be etc.)

Have I got News For You?
Taesville
20-08-2004, 21:42
I like the Pound. I don't want English money to end up as Euros.. It's just not right. I want our country to stay individual. ^^


x Kori x
Conceptualists
20-08-2004, 22:13
made worse from the ridiculous laws (how straight a cucumber should be etc.)

I have always thougth that stuff like this was Urban Myth, as I haven't seen any reports of it outside of the Sun et al (I realise that doesn't mean it hasn't been done).

However one thing I think is stupid, are the new Fire Extinguishers regulations. Instead of the old style (Red Can = Water, Black = CO2, etc) it is now the whole can is red, with 5% of the surface area colour coded.

I just thought which genius thought of that.

For example. New style:
http://www.safelincs.co.uk/images/home.jpg
Old:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/student_life/images/fire_extinguisher_150.jpg

Maybe it is just me, but the old style are easier to distinguish