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What are your thoughts on a single government for the world? And would you accept it?

As long as it was a Republic or Democracy with the ability to enforce it's decisions on areas that refused to comply, be it with warfare, severe sanctions, blockades. It would also have to be tolerant of religion. With that kind of power, we can't have one belief system ruling over all under the dirrection of mankind. We're too stupid/evil.

-R. S. of UC

It would have to be different than nations democracy more then one person should rule say 10 or 20. too much power for 1

As long as it was a Republic or Democracy with the ability to enforce it's decisions on areas that refused to comply, be it with warfare, severe sanctions, blockades. It would also have to be tolerant of religion. With that kind of power, we can't have one belief system ruling over all under the dirrection of mankind. We're too stupid/evil.

-R. S. of UC
Perhaps if we did have a democracy, but we censored many things...including but not limited to:

- History (Re-write history so people don't think it's wrong to have a one-world government, but a way of life. Rome conquered Europe and Northern Africa as well as the Middle-East. Then other imperial nations built up such as America, Imperial Japan, and Russia. And eventually, they all joined together.
- Burn books (think, Farenheit 451. Destroy other's opinions to give a man only one opinion, or better yet...none at all)
- Censor the internet excluding government-approved websites (we don't want people exposing secrets now do we?)
- Revamp the education system to brainwash the next generation



etc etc

A single world government would never work at present. Some countries can't even obey the exisiting limited international laws and UN resolutions.

A single world government would never work at present. Some countries can't even obey the exisiting limited international laws and UN resolutions.
thing is, there would be no UN or international laws.

If it could be successfully installed, it might be the best thing ever; for all the world to be one nation. Unfortunately, I think people have too many differences and selfish interests for it to happen quickly, if ever.

It would be good news for the poor and oppressed, and bad news for the wealthy, which is probably why it has little chance of succeeding.

thing is, there would be no UN or international laws.
So, basically you are arguing for the disolution of national governments with no replacement? Would that not be anarchy.

What are your thoughts on a single government for the world? And would you accept it?
You do realize that this is Biblical and analogous with the Apocalypse, right?

thing is, there would be no UN or international laws.
It's not like the UN does anything anyway. ;)

one would government will be fine after the space aliens invade, until then, we are too contentious with each other for it to work

Isn't that what the Illuminati has been trying to do for a while? Create a Satanic Singal Government to rule the world? Sorry, i like to Ramble.

World Governments? Bah, i say! There would be no fighting and no invasions. Besides, it would probably be riddled with corruption.

The world is too diverse to fit under one set of laws and regulations. It would only work if each region could define their own laws and customs, in which case it isn't all that different from what we have now; the "world leader" would be little more than a figure head.

I very much doubt it'd work. One centralised government? -- think of all the administrative staff, it'd take up a landmass the size of China...

i think SWG is innevitable, its like the countries of the world are kids at a some kind of terrestrial discotheque, as the night goes on and the punch gets flowing they mix together more, until eventually they all go home together and form a world-wide governing council.
/mixed metaphor
but personally i would enjoy it, there'd be no wars, (until someone finds some ETs to fight), free borders, (hence free exchange of ideas and culture) and a feeling of being part of something bigger than a nation with a history of tyrants.

If such a central goverment cannot be installed, wouldn't this discussion be a moot point? :) Anyway, I think human nature wouldn't allow for it. Unity of this magnitude is well nigh impossible

I would support it if America, Isreal, Australia, and Britain was the overlords and enslaved the rest.

You better be joking and if you where trying to make it so it shows all the naionalities of the people here you failed

You do realize that this is Biblical and analogous with the Apocalypse, right?
I don't know much about Christianity, but isn't the anti-Christ the guy who turns the world into one, whole government?

Kinda sad if someone from NS becomes that guy, eh?

The Bible mentions that a figure will arise that will initiate peace in the middle east between the Jews and the Arabs. It will be a false peace lasting for three and a half years. The person who set up the agreement will break it himself, installing himself as God in the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. Hence the whole anti-christ stuff. It sort of makes sense to me that the person who does this would be upgraded to top of the world, leading to a one world government.

Until that point which I believe is coming soon, a one world government will never work, there are too many selfish people in this world for that to happen.

The Bible mentions that a figure will arise that will initiate peace in the middle east between the Jews and the Arabs. It will be a false peace lasting for three and a half years. The person who set up the agreement will break it himself, installing himself as God in the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. Hence the whole anti-christ stuff. It sort of makes sense to me that the person who does this would be upgraded to top of the world, leading to a one world government.

Until that point which I believe is coming soon, a one world government will never work, there are too many selfish people in this world for that to happen.
hmm....so when I tell people I'm going to rule the world, I should probably not mention how I will do it.


I'm a Muslim myself, I would never place myself as a God.

Ahh well. I learned a new thing today.

Let's ditch the UN, because they are basically hogtied and hopeless...and form a similar organisation that is truly democratic....each country gets a vote (or number of votes depending on their population...OH NO! That would mean a majority rule!!! ARGGGHHHH!!!!!) and no one has power of veto. Countries would still retain sovereignty, but must live up to their commitments once they ratify an agreement. Of course, we might be looking at a global police force (Yuck) to make sure countries like the Sudan aren't involved in genocide...and to make sure no one nation can just move in on it's own and invade a country....and who would be in charge of that army...yuck...but we need to do something to stop these rogue nations (like the US :D ) from running around and ordering everything to suit themselves only...

Let's ditch the UN, because they are basically hogtied and hopeless...and form a similar organisation that is truly democratic....each country gets a vote (or number of votes depending on their population...OH NO! That would mean a majority rule!!! ARGGGHHHH!!!!!) and no one has power of veto. Countries would still retain sovereignty, but must live up to their commitments once they ratify an agreement. Of course, we might be looking at a global police force (Yuck) to make sure countries like the Sudan aren't involved in genocide...and to make sure no one nation can just move in on it's own and invade a country....and who would be in charge of that army...yuck...but we need to do something to stop these rogue nations (like the US :D ) from running around and ordering everything to suit themselves only...
Perhaps we can learn from the very people you wish to stop in their tracks and have a bipartisan (sp?) system. In which we have one house in which Senators (or whatever we'll call em) vote, 1 or 2 per nation. Regardless of national population.
And another house with representatives, which there are more representatives per population of a country. Of course, nations like China and India would have more power. But it balances out power, better than before.


Although I really wish the U.S. would do itself and us (me = US Citizen) and get out of the UN.

I wouldn't rule it out. It's certainly more likely with the wave of globalization. Even politics, economics, and cultures are beginning to mesh with one another. It's almost inevitable at our pace. Of course, I'd never accept it if it weren't a republic, not even if it were a pure democracy.

It would be terrible. I would fight it to the end.

I wouldn't rule it out. It's certainly more likely with the wave of globalization. Even politics, economics, and cultures are beginning to mesh with one another. It's almost inevitable at our pace. Of course, I'd never accept it if it weren't a republic, not even if it were a pure democracy.
What is a "pure democracy" anyway? That would be a direct democracy where every decision is done by a direct majority vote. No country practises that, not even Switzerland, although the have the most referendums. In theory it would be possible today via the Internet of course, hehe.
But anyway: it would be irresponsible to do that. We after all have our daily lives and simply don´t have time to research everything. So we simply need experts to make decisions - proffessional politicians. Not because we - the normal people - are stupid but because we don`t have the oversight.
I´m actually in favour of more expert commissions and the increased role of parliamentarian commitees (like in the US).
Probably we see in future an increased role of such commitees which may more decision themself rather than the hole parliament. Anyway: does comitees are already preparing the decision which are usually taken over by the entire parliament later.

I personally don´t believe in a world government. The world is too big for it.
By the way: just remember the story of Babylon. There was supposedly one government and one language. And they built a big tower which should reach heaven. God than confused their languages so they couldn´t understand each other any more. And that was the end of it.
That created diversity, languages, nationalities. And they are not going to disappear. I don´t believe that.
Many people speak English for business, travelling, being able to talk to other nationals. That includes myself. But that doesn´t stopp me from speaking in my own language, which I always do except here or when I´m abroad.
A lingua franca is not an unusal thing. In the European middle age the lingua franca was Latin. From the 16 th to 19 th century it was French (on the European continent). That has not lead to the disappearance of the other languages. Today it is English. I don´t see why that should lead to the disappearance of other languages as well.
And I can´t believe that all languages, nationalities and cultures unite into one government. They may be more regional unions (like Nafta, EU, ASEAN, or others). And the members may unite closer together. But I can´t see those organisation fusion with each other (which would be realistically the only way such a thing could be formed).

The world won’t unite unless it has a reason to do so. Such as going to war with an extraterrestrial species. Or if a single power conquered the entire world. Other than that I don’t see world unification happening any time soon. And to that I say good. We need to keep fighting each other to help reduce population growth until we're able to colonize other worlds.

A one world Government will inevitably happen, though not in our lifetime. The world is 'shrinking' due to increased population, decreases in available resources and advances in technology and travel. Issues won't stay inside national borders, it is no longer an option to isolate yourself. The people of the world really are being forced to work with each other on global issues, eventually that will expand to cover more and more of how we govern ourselves. Soveriegnty probably won't disappear, at least not in initial unification, just another layer or authority added over current governments, an evolved UN or something along that lines.

A side note, one thing that will hasten the inevitable is contact with some other intelligent lifeform. The people of the Earth will unite soon after this happens if they haven't by that time. Nothing unites like a big scary unknown.

What is a "pure democracy" anyway? That would be a direct democracy where every decision is done by a direct majority vote. No country practises that, not even Switzerland, although the have the most referendums. In theory it would be possible today via the Internet of course, hehe.
But anyway: it would be irresponsible to do that. We after all have our daily lives and simply don´t have time to research everything. So we simply need experts to make decisions - proffessional politicians. Not because we - the normal people - are stupid but because we don`t have the oversight.
I´m actually in favour of more expert commissions and the increased role of parliamentarian commitees (like in the US).
Probably we see in future an increased role of such commitees which may more decision themself rather than the hole parliament. Anyway: does comitees are already preparing the decision which are usually taken over by the entire parliament later.

That's exactly what I mean. Californians do it. They vote for less taxes, but more spending. Morons.
I personally don´t believe in a world government. The world is too big for it.
By the way: just remember the story of Babylon. There was supposedly one government and one language. And they built a big tower which should reach heaven. God than confused their languages so they couldn´t understand each other any more. And that was the end of it.
That created diversity, languages, nationalities. And they are not going to disappear. I don´t believe that.
Many people speak English for business, travelling, being able to talk to other nationals. That includes myself. But that doesn´t stopp me from speaking in my own language, which I always do except here or when I´m abroad.
A lingua franca is not an unusal thing. In the European middle age the lingua franca was Latin. From the 16 th to 19 th century it was French (on the European continent). That has not lead to the disappearance of the other languages. Today it is English. I don´t see why that should lead to the disappearance of other languages as well.
And I can´t believe that all languages, nationalities and cultures unite into one government. They may be more regional unions (like Nafta, EU, ASEAN, or others). And the members may unite closer together. But I can´t see those organisation fusion with each other (which would be realistically the only way such a thing could be formed).
The world is a smaller place, both in communications and in transportation. In the past two centuries, most languages in Europe died from lack of speakers. Not only that, but I see cultural diffusion as now more inevitable than ever. It may be that some diversity will always exist, but in this new global age, it'll shrink. Look at right now. I'm talking to someone thousands of miles from me. This medium alone, the internet, has a lot of potential for diffusion, much like the TV did to Italy in the 1960s, when it forced the country to speak Italian.

What are your thoughts on a single government for the world? And would you accept it?

No. Different governments suit different types of people, so trying to have every person on the planet under the same type of government wouldn't be a good idea. Besides, think of the enormous potential for abuse of power that government would have.

While I like the idea, it seems a bit too unrealistic to enforce. I like the idea of the UN, where all the nations of the world can come together to better the world

The world is a smaller place, both in communications and in transportation. In the past two centuries, most languages in Europe died from lack of speakers. Not only that, but I see cultural diffusion as now more inevitable than ever. It may be that some diversity will always exist, but in this new global age, it'll shrink. Look at right now. I'm talking to someone thousands of miles from me. This medium alone, the internet, has a lot of potential for diffusion, much like the TV did to Italy in the 1960s, when it forced the country to speak Italian.
I would be interested. What languages really died???? Some dialects probably or the languages of indigenous people in America or Africa. Or Irish (almost died) due to the long English dominance.
But we see today also many other tendencies. For example Catalan in Spain is spoken in Catalonia and the regional seperatism is rising. So: there is not only a centralising tendency in Europe but also a regionalising tendency (away from the national governments to the regional level).
Or the language Serbocroat split into Serbian and Croat in Jugoslavia (they are actually still close but of course the differences are underlined).
Some small languages in Africa may die out but none of the larger languages is going to die.
The fact that there is a lingua franca - a common language - for business, trade and other things - doesn´t mean that other languages die out. Latin was in that position for almost a thousand years in Europe up until the end of the middle ages. That did not lead to the end of other languages.
The same is the case for the time French was the lingua franca (16 th to 18 th century in Europe). Didn´t lead to the end of Russian, Polish or German.
I see rather a tendency of regionalisation. If you look to international developments you see increased of cross-national trade. BUT: inter-regional trade (within one region) is growing much faster than cross-regional trade.
So we may see rather the development of trade blocks (like Nafta, EU, ASEAN, and others) going to play a dominant role in the economic field.
Maybe they are going to negotiate "bilateral" deals between them.
But I can´t see a fusion of them.

I would be interested. What languages really died???? Some dialects probably or the languages of indigenous people in America or Africa. Or Irish (almost died) due to the long English dominance.
But we see today also many other tendencies. For example Catalan in Spain is spoken in Catalonia and the regional seperatism is rising. So: there is not only a centralising tendency in Europe but also a regionalising tendency (away from the national governments to the regional level).
Or the language Serbocroat split into Serbian and Croat in Jugoslavia (they are actually still close but of course the differences are underlined).
Some small languages in Africa may die out but none of the larger languages is going to die.
The fact that there is a lingua franca - a common language - for business, trade and other things - doesn´t mean that other languages die out. Latin was in that position for almost a thousand years in Europe up until the end of the middle ages. That did not lead to the end of other languages.
The same is the case for the time French was the lingua franca (16 th to 18 th century in Europe). Didn´t lead to the end of Russian, Polish or German.
I see rather a tendency of regionalisation. If you look to international developments you see increased of cross-national trade. BUT: inter-regional trade (within one region) is growing much faster than cross-regional trade.
So we may see rather the development of trade blocks (like Nafta, EU, ASEAN, and others) going to play a dominant role in the economic field.
Maybe they are going to negotiate "bilateral" deals between them.
But I can´t see a fusion of them.
Well, many Italian dialects, including Sicilian, have given way to Italian. Basque is dying. Gaelic and Irish are pretty much dead.
In the Americas, many languages are dying, too. 2/3 of Indian languages are still spoken in the US, but most of their speakers are aging, and not teaching it to their young. Indigeonous languages are pretty much dead in Australia and New Zealand. And as the media gets more expansive, more languages will die. I personally want to see the world speaking a short list of languages. Maybe just English, Spanish, French, Mandarin, Japanese, Hindi, Arabic, Hebrew, Russian, and German. That may actually happen, if the electronic media continues to grow.

What are your thoughts on a single government for the world? And would you accept it?

Only if I could be in charge of it. :mp5:

Irish are pretty much dead.
Is amadán tú translation from IRISH you are an fool
10% of ireland speaks irish in the gaeltacht. AND I go to an all Irish school where we do almost all subjects in Irish (exception english). So you are wrong