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At the end of Signs did the alien even try to fight back?

Klonor
15-08-2004, 16:29
I'm referring to the end of the movie Signs where the brother of Mel Gibson is beating the crap out of the alien with a baseball bat. They circle each other for a while, he hits the alien, the alien gets back up and they circle each other again, then he hits the alien again, then it starts all over again. Eventually he learns that water kills them and ends the fight with the dozens of water cups lying around (the daughter of Mel Gibson conveniently gives them an excise to have the room filled with water).

My question: During that scene does the alien fight at all? You don't see it throw any punches, or kicks, or use any weird alien technology or fighting style. It just stands there and lets itself get the crap beaten out of it.

He didn't even try that poison thing that he used on M.G.'s son.
Revolutionsz
15-08-2004, 16:54
You don't see it throw any punches, or kicks, or use any weird alien technology or fighting style. It just stands there and lets itself get the crap beaten out of it.I the whole movie I dont see them using a waepon...

Lets see they Invade a planet...with no weapons???

I mean...WTF...their only weapon is a pissing finger...with a range of about 4 feet(1 meter)...that what i used to kill ants when I was 5 years old..

I mean in Faluhah ...this "Invaders" would be the main course in the World largest Barbecue contest :D
The Force Majeure
15-08-2004, 21:45
what a horrid movie

Water kills them - so they invade a planet that is 70% H2O

They have mastered intersteller travel, but need crop circles to find their way around earth...not to mention they can't find their way out of a closet.

M. Night Shamylam (or whatever) ought to be ashamed of himself
Revolutionsz
15-08-2004, 22:01
They have mastered intersteller travel, but need crop circles to find their way around earth...not to mention they can't find their way out of a closet.
LOL this reminds me of ScaryMovie3
"They have mastered interstellar travel, but cant break a wooden door?"
Enodscopia
15-08-2004, 22:01
Also the fact that they invaded without being shot. I would like to see those aliens try to take America. If they invaded without lasers and things every person with a gun would be running around saying "AHAHAHA I'm killin me some a these aliens".
Greater Valia
15-08-2004, 22:31
The whole movie didnt make any sense, why start with the ending? I think that Maddox said it best that even though they're killed by water wouldnt they need enviroment suits to protect themselves from the moisture in our atmosphere? And why would they start to be defeated by water usage in a region that is almost entirely desert? Bad. Fucking. Movie.
Unashamed Christians
15-08-2004, 22:41
From a purely sci-fi point, the movie is dubious. What I do like is that it is a story about a man who regains his faith, and it shows an invasion from the point of view of where we would probably experience it, isolated except for our televisions and radios.
Klonor
16-08-2004, 02:56
All these posts and nobody even bothers to answer my original question. For shame........
Dontgonearthere
16-08-2004, 02:59
Maybe the aliens are physically weak or something, I mean, it was having trouble with the door, and apparently has no bones in its fingers (knife scene).
Or maybe the water makes them weak, in its gas form.

I think they should have just made a movie based on X-Com :)
Franken4Prez
16-08-2004, 03:00
I liked it- if you thought about it, it totally destroyed the premise. But if you just went along with it, it was a fun film!
Klonor
16-08-2004, 03:04
It is a simple question requiring a simple 'Yes' or 'Non' answer. Is that so hard?
Dontgonearthere
16-08-2004, 03:05
Non, then.
:)
Letila
16-08-2004, 03:08
I know. They made a lot of rather irritating mistakes.
BackwoodsSquatches
16-08-2004, 03:10
The answer is:

No. It didnt.

It just gets clubbed in the head and then we repeat the process.

Its a good thing that Earth was invaded by the dumbest aliens in the galaxy.

Alien Commander: "Excellent, although we cant use doorknobs, and water kills us outright...lets attack this planet thats covered with over 70% of the very stuff wich kills us."

Alien: "But Sir....what if they fight back.......at all."

Commander: "Lets not get carried away, son, that would never happen."
Foolish Pesants
16-08-2004, 03:37
Jiggle the Handles!!!

It wasn't an invasion of the millitary aliens, but those pesky kid aliens.
Hajekistan
16-08-2004, 04:58
Signs was okay, but it would have been better had they never shown the aliens. Damn those things looked silly.
Anyway, in the final scene, I want you to think about it from the viewpoint of the alien:
Your alone on a planet filled with hostile organisms after your companions left you behind. Further, you've only got one hand. Now, out of no where, Mel Gibson runs into the room and starts trying to tenderize your cranium with a baseball bat.
You might have some problems reacting to the situation yourself.
Klonor
16-08-2004, 05:06
Actually, it's like this.

You're alone on a planet filled with hostile organisms after your companions left you behind. Further, you've only got one hand. Now, out of nowhere, you take Mel Gibson's son, hold him hostage, and shoot poison into his face. You then toss him aside and stand there as Mel Gibson's brother takes the time to collect a baseball bat off the wall and proceeds to beat the crap out of you.
Georgeton
16-08-2004, 08:34
Pffft I'm surpirsed he managed to hit it, no one in Iowa can swing a bat to save their life...literally
The Sword and Sheild
16-08-2004, 08:43
Pffft I'm surpirsed he managed to hit it, no one in Iowa can swing a bat to save their life...literally

Which is fine, since they are in Pennsylvania afaik
Gigatron
16-08-2004, 10:33
Let me guess... the president of the aliens was "Beorge W. Gush".
JiangGuo
16-08-2004, 11:37
Overall, a terrible movie that has massive christian faith propaganda overtones.

What would they want with human bodies if water is dangerous substance to them? Human cells on average is nearly %70 water by mass (don't quote me on that).

All the other points other posters have made, regarding the lack of weaponry, and entering a hostile environment where the very atmosphere is fatal to them.

JiangGuo
JiangGuo
16-08-2004, 11:39
Which also brings up the point, if H2O in its liquid form is fatal to them on contact. How does it survive in AIR? Air isn't perfectly dry, it has atmoshperic moisture, even in the Shara Desert, let alone places like Brazil and Eastern U.S

JiangGuo
Georgeton
16-08-2004, 11:57
Which is fine, since they are in Pennsylvania afaik
Hmmm I thought all aliens and crop circles happen in Iowa...I withdraw my previous statement, *cowers in corner*
Dontgonearthere
16-08-2004, 14:33
Sudden inspiraption...
In Men in Black Two 'J' says he fended off some alien race, but 'K' dismisses the race as the 'Backstreet Boys of the Galaxy', I forgot what the race was actually called, anybody want to draw some conclusions?
Zaikuu
16-08-2004, 14:39
Let me guess... the president of the aliens was "Beorge W. Gush".

*Snickers*

Most likely.
Hajekistan
16-08-2004, 15:36
Actually, it's like this.

You're alone on a planet filled with hostile organisms after your companions left you behind. Further, you've only got one hand. Now, out of nowhere, you take Mel Gibson's son, hold him hostage, and shoot poison into his face. You then toss him aside and stand there as Mel Gibson's brother takes the time to collect a baseball bat off the wall and proceeds to beat the crap out of you.
But it is much more entertaining to think of Mel Gibson a just randomly running in and reducing your gray matter to a fine silt. While, you just stand there thinking "Well, damn. Thats the second time this week!" Crazy aliens!

And about the water, WHO FUGGING CARES!?! They were aliens, they invade things as a hobby.
They didn't bring weapons because, being aliens, they just got drunk in a bar one night and then one of them said "Hey guys," of course he said it in Oobixian, or whatever the hell these aliens speak "You know what would be really wild? If we invaded Earth."
To which another replied "But wait, we don't have weapons, and our cheif navigator just passed out in a puddle of his own vomit."
"I don't care! We'll get there by using, um, crop circles. Yeah, we'll use crop circles and mebbe get Mel Gibson's autograph while were at it." (Because, as everyone worth anything knows, spraying poison in the face of someone's child is the universal sign for "I want your autograph and/or baseball bat")
"Um, OK"
"Besides, if it doesn't work we'll just run away and never come back."
Revolutionsz
16-08-2004, 15:56
...Yeah, we'll use crop circles and mebbe get Mel Gibson's autograph while were at it." (Because, as everyone worth anything knows, spraying poison in the face of someone's child is the universal sign for "I want your autograph...LOL...Maybe It was not even Poison...It WAS ASMA MEDICATION...the Alien was a doctor...that why he wasent able to defend himself...Doctors sux at streetfigthing....I know....once I kicked some doctors ass.
Revolutionsz
16-08-2004, 16:01
LOL...Maybe It was not even Poison...It WAS ASMA MEDICATION...the Alien was a doctor...that why he wasent able to defend himself...Doctors sux at streetfigthing....I know....once I kicked some doctors ass.They did not came to take over the World...they sent thier doctors to help us cure...some deseases that we havent mastered....

Thats why instead of sending their bomber warplanes to Washington and moscow....they sent their unarmed doctors to Farms and villages in Brazil, Africa, India, etc
Allied Alliances
16-08-2004, 16:13
Okay, first, they just wanted the humans, not the planet. They may have been trying to synthesize something to make it so they don't react to water the way they do from human cells. Also, remember was Morgan said. That they have no use for their physical body and they use their brains for everything. Plus, the alien did try to fight back. If you look closely at the scene where Bo is looking through the window, you can see the alien shoot a puff of poison at Merryl. It didn't get very far, but it did try to fight back. And they got through the atmosphere via spacecraft, so it was no problem with humidity.
Demented Hamsters
16-08-2004, 16:30
What no-one here has pointed out is that the Aliens are highly evolved and intelligent species. So maybe fisticuffs (or being brained by a basebat weilding Mel Gibson) is way below their level.
Maybe they settle fights with witty reparte, bon motes and double entendres. So there he was preparing for a battle of wits with big Mel (along the lines of 'pull my finger' maybe, cause it was one helluve big finger) and Mel starts cracking him with a bat! Very uncouth.
I think the Alien let Mel beat him to death to prove he was above such brutal and animalistic urges, and in so doing actually won the fight. Humans hae not yet evolved beyond their base instincts of lashing out when cornered he would have smugly thought as he passed on in a pool of brain matter, blood, pus and other viscous fluids.

On another note, why did it take so long to find out that water killed them? Surely someone would've pissed themselves (literally) as soon as they saw one of them aliens. The rapidly expanding pissy puddle would've wasted them.
Allied Alliances
16-08-2004, 19:17
And it wasn't Mel Gibson holding the bat, it was his brother. Joaquin Phoenix.
Dontgonearthere
17-08-2004, 01:24
What no-one here has pointed out is that the Aliens are highly evolved and intelligent species. So maybe fisticuffs (or being brained by a basebat weilding Mel Gibson) is way below their level.
Maybe they settle fights with witty reparte, bon motes and double entendres. So there he was preparing for a battle of wits with big Mel (along the lines of 'pull my finger' maybe, cause it was one helluve big finger) and Mel starts cracking him with a bat! Very uncouth.
I think the Alien let Mel beat him to death to prove he was above such brutal and animalistic urges, and in so doing actually won the fight. Humans hae not yet evolved beyond their base instincts of lashing out when cornered he would have smugly thought as he passed on in a pool of brain matter, blood, pus and other viscous fluids.

On another note, why did it take so long to find out that water killed them? Surely someone would've pissed themselves (literally) as soon as they saw one of them aliens. The rapidly expanding pissy puddle would've wasted them.

Drive by arguements?

"Hey! I DISAGREE! HAHAHAHHAHA!"
Wowcha wowcha land
17-08-2004, 01:28
I'm referring to the end of the movie Signs where the brother of Mel Gibson is beating the crap out of the alien with a baseball bat. They circle each other for a while, he hits the alien, the alien gets back up and they circle each other again, then he hits the alien again, then it starts all over again. Eventually he learns that water kills them and ends the fight with the dozens of water cups lying around (the daughter of Mel Gibson conveniently gives them an excise to have the room filled with water).

My question: During that scene does the alien fight at all? You don't see it throw any punches, or kicks, or use any weird alien technology or fighting style. It just stands there and lets itself get the crap beaten out of it.

He didn't even try that poison thing that he used on M.G.'s son.

I don't really know. He was injured and there fore left behind. Maybe because it was being sprayed with water? I thought it was cool that you had no idea what the hell they were about. And the water had something to do with fate.