NationStates Jolt Archive

Options:

UFOs only - you believe that extra-terrestrials have visited our planet (excluding people who believe that there may be intelligent non-terrestrial life, but we've never met it. This category is for certified, UFOs in the night-sky, aliens abducted me - believers)

Religion only - you belive in God, Allah, Buddah or some form of deity and/or afterlife. For simplicity's sake, this includes all non-athiests.

Both - both of the above

Neither - neither of the above

;)

Definatly religon.

Although I don't have a crystal ball or whatever you use to see into the past. So I'm stuck here. :P

Well, I'm a fairly gullible person (actually, gullible (and I know I'm spelling that wrong...) is the wrong word, but works, cause I don't fall for silly pranks BUT) and I'll believe in almost anything...I don't like to rule anything out of possibility, just in case it exists...besides, that's so close minded!!!

Atheism itself is not about proving anything. The hole idea of
atheism is
not about proving that god exists its simply seeing no reason for
him to exist.
There requires absolutely no proof to believe something doesn't
exist. I
don't believe there is a pony standing in front of me. I have no
real proof it
doesn't exist and theoretically i could be being deceived. The
analogy,
therefore, translates over to the idea about god and religion. I
have no reason to
believe a supreme being who sits above the clouds exists.
Moreover, just
because you experience incredible and amazing things doesn't mean
it is not
physical. Classifying the experience as physical does not demean
the experience
nor do we have any reason to doubt the power of physical things.
The very idea
that a bunch of cells creates a human sentience is incredible in
itself, but
we know when we hurt those cells in a physical manner they change
and that
sentience can dissappear. The other argument for religion is
often based on
desire for it. People say it makes my life whole, it gives
meaning, it provides
stability and comfort and i don't doubt it. Unfortunately want
for something
does not make it a reality. I can really want to have a million
dollars in my
pocket but it doesn't mean i have it. After all, if god exists it
would be the
greatest coincidence of all time. He solves all our problems. He
takes the
fear of death away, he punishes the people who are bad even if
they escape in
life, he helps the poor, tells people that each person is part of
something
greater, that they have a vocation, and he solves our very need to
believe in
something better and grand. That's the reason some form of him,
different
everywhere, has developed. They're different because of different
societies but
they all deal with our humanity and what we truly desire. Not to
mention
everything we didn't know about was solved in the bible. Is the
world flat, what's
above those clouds, what are those other planets. The more
science comes up
with the more we see that this was wrong. The truth of the matter
is if you
think of it objectively the burden of proof is on the believers.
I know this
sounds incredibly withdrawn and unsoulful, but its the truth. You
need "proof"
to believe something you don't need proof not to. Faith is
another issue.

I believe in God and that there is intelligent life outside of Earth or Earth-related stuff (space stations, etc.). C'mon, seriously. Don't you think it's rather unlikely that in all the universe, Earth is constantly just "happened upon" by visitors from outer space? What's the likelihood of that?

I believe in God and that there is intelligent life outside of Earth or Earth-related stuff (space stations, etc.). C'mon, seriously. Don't you think it's rather unlikely that in all the universe, Earth is constantly just "happened upon" by visitors from outer space? What's the likelihood of that?

*tsk tsk* You didn't read option 1 properly, did you.

I'm talking about people who belive Earth has been visited by intelligent ETs, not those who belive that in the inifinity of space, there is probably other life forms out there...

I am not sure whether I was correct in voting for "religion", as I believe that consciousness is more than what science can explain it as, and in a rather vague spiritual force beyond the obvious, but have never considered myself religious and remain agnostic. Anyway, I don't think we've had extraterrestrial visitors to Earth, so moose on that.

I very much believe that religions exist, and that there are indeed flying objects that are unidentified.