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Stalin's Quotes

Mr Basil Fawlty
15-08-2004, 00:59
I'd like to know Stalin's famous quotes if there are any?

Also, I'd like to confirm if Stalin ever said something like "in order to defeat your enemy, you must hate him from the bottom of your heart?"

Thanks.
Mr Basil Fawlty
15-08-2004, 01:00
After the war,English diplomat said to Stalin that he should't be so harsh against religion.Stalin said-how many division does the pope have?.
Mr Basil Fawlty
15-08-2004, 01:04
-It requires a brave man to be a coward in the Red Army".... Regarding the NKVD-Army relationship... :-p

-"You can't make a revolution with silk gloves"

-"Now everything that Marx and Lenin helped to create is gone". Words of the Comrade after he was informed of the Nazi invasion in 1941.
Luquillo
15-08-2004, 01:07
Finally a stalin quote forum. I'm tired of the Churchill one's

Didn't he say "one death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic"?
Mr Basil Fawlty
15-08-2004, 01:09
"To choose ones victims, to prepare ones plans minutely, to slake an implacable vengeance, and then to go to bed - there is nothing sweeter in the world"

"I trust no one any more, not even myself"

Here you can see some more http://www.randomhouse.co.uk/features/harris/stalin.html

Regards
Mr Basil Fawlty
15-08-2004, 01:10
Finally a stalin quote forum. I'm tired of the Churchill one's

Didn't he say "one death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic"?

*gives Luquillo a bottle of Krug, the most expensive Champagne*

Great, without Google?

BTW saw you are on the Dutch topic, learning Dutch?
Maless
15-08-2004, 01:11
" Nobody respects a country with a poor army, but everybody respects a country with a good army. I raise my toast to the Finnish Army."
Stalin, 1948

Probably something to do with the Finnish army's performance in the Russo-Finnish war, and again when the Red Army tried to attack after the seige of Leningrad was lifted.
The Sword and Sheild
15-08-2004, 01:12
"Die, but do not retreat"

"A single death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic"

"And how many divisions does the Pope have?"

"Ideas are more dangerous than guns, if we do not want or enemies to have guns, why would we let them have ideas?"

"A sincere diplomat is like dry water or wooden iron"

"History shows that there are no invincible armies"

"Deaths solves all problems - no man, no problem"

"Everyone imposes his own system as far as his armies can reach"

"In the Red Army, it takes more courage to retreat than advance"

"Print is the strongest weapon of this Party"

"When we hang the capitolists, they will sell us the rope"
Lunatic Goofballs
15-08-2004, 01:15
"Die, but do not retreat"

"A single death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic"

"And how many divisions does the Pope have?"

"Ideas are more dangerous than guns, if we do not want or enemies to have guns, why would we let them have ideas?"

"A sincere diplomat is like dry water or wooden iron"

"History shows that there are no invincible armies"

"Deaths solves all problems - no man, no problem"

"Everyone imposes his own system as far as his armies can reach"

"In the Red Army, it takes more courage to retreat than advance"

"Print is the strongest weapon of this Party"

"When we hang the capitolists, they will sell us the rope"

I wish I had a daughter so I could forbid her to marry him. ;)
Colodia
15-08-2004, 01:19
Finally a stalin quote forum. I'm tired of the Churchill one's

Didn't he say "one death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic"?
he did


Call of Duty...mwahahahaha

there's a million of em
Mr Basil Fawlty
15-08-2004, 01:20
I've always liked the pragmatic logic of this one: "How many divisions has the Pope? I have 300."
Colodia
15-08-2004, 01:21
Here's a couple

"Death solves all problems - no man, no problem."

"In the Soviet army it takes more courage to retreat than advance."
Mawhaw
15-08-2004, 01:23
Finally a stalin quote forum. I'm tired of the Churchill one's

Didn't he say "one death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic"?

I think he did, but I know for sure that he said it in Red Alert, the cutscene between missions 5 and 6 as far as I can remember.

He goes on to say:

"They call me killer, but I live only to serve the people. The peoples history will judge me. Where Rome has failed, I will succeed, for a united Russia is our destiny. Russias borders will stretch from coast to coast" (close enough)

I think you get promoted to field Captain there too. Did Stalin smoke a pipe? If he did then the researchers of RA deserve a gold star.

Incidently Maless, Finland trained Alpine troops who were more mobile and topographically aware than their russian counterparts who lost dispite having numerical advantages. Nothing beats a good pair of skis.
Mr Basil Fawlty
15-08-2004, 01:24
Here's a couple



"In the Soviet army it takes more courage to retreat than advance."

Like I said in the same way :)
-It requires a brave man to be a coward in the Red Army".... Regarding the NKVD-Army relationship... :-p
The Sword and Sheild
15-08-2004, 01:28
I think he did, but I know for sure that he said it in Red Alert, the cutscene between missions 5 and 6 as far as I can remember.

He goes on to say:

"They call me killer, but I live only to serve the people. The peoples history will judge me. Where Rome has failed, I will succeed, for a united Russia is our destiny. Russias borders will stretch from coast to coast" (close enough)

I think you get promoted to field Captain there too. Did Stalin smoke a pipe? If he did then the researchers of RA deserve a gold star.

Incidently Maless, Finland trained Alpine troops who were more mobile and topographically aware than their russian counterparts who lost dispite having numerical advantages. Nothing beats a good pair of skis.

In the winter anyway, Finland ultimately loses that war when winter ends.
Greenmanbry
15-08-2004, 01:37
I think you get promoted to field Captain there too. Did Stalin smoke a pipe? If he did then the researchers of RA deserve a gold star.

Yes.. Stalin did, in fact, smoke a pipe.

The pipe is a trademark of Stalin just as much as the cigar is a trademark of Churchill..

And I agree the detail in RA is awesome, even beautiful.. But it's not uncommon knowledge that Stalin smoked a pipe.. ;)

It's nice they paid attention to details though.
Kahrstein
15-08-2004, 02:18
Finally a stalin quote forum. I'm tired of the Churchill one's

Didn't he say "one death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic"?

Yes, but Marx had beaten him to it. Stalin wasn't the brightest of evil dictators.
Surreal Architecture
15-08-2004, 02:29
"Those who have no interest in strategy would do well to be aware that strategy always has an interest in them." - Stalin
Maless
15-08-2004, 02:31
Well if you compare the relative size of the Finnish vs Red Army, I think you can see who will win eventually, but still it was pretty impressive.
Fascist Scotland
15-08-2004, 02:34
"I shall wave my little finger and there will be no more Tito."
Lunatic Goofballs
15-08-2004, 02:36
"I shall wave my little finger and there will be no more Tito."

If he's referring to Tito Jackson, then that's the first sensible thing he has said that I've heard so far.
Fascist Scotland
15-08-2004, 02:39
If he's referring to Tito Jackson, then that's the first sensible thing he has said that I've heard so far.
Actually Josip Broz Tito, Dictator of Yugoslovia, and he was completely wrong about it.
Luquillo
15-08-2004, 03:47
*gives Luquillo a bottle of Krug, the most expensive Champagne*

Great, without Google?

BTW saw you are on the Dutch topic, learning Dutch?

YEAH free champagne!!!!!! ya i'm trying to learn because of a girl LOL she's a close friend of mine
Kahrstein
16-08-2004, 21:23
"Those who have no interest in strategy would do well to be aware that strategy always has an interest in them." - Stalin

Did he say that before or after killing most of his best generals?
Von Witzleben
16-08-2004, 23:23
A sincere diplomat is like dry water or wooden iron.

Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.

Gratitude is a sickness suffered by dogs.

Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.

The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do.

Die, but do not retreat.

Death is the solution to all problems. No man - no problem.
Strensall
16-08-2004, 23:45
After the Winter War of 39-40 with Finland, one of the USSR's generals said "We have won almost enough land to bury our dead".

Russian losses were half a million dead. Finland only had to give up what the USSR had demanded before the war.

Did Britain and the USA declare war on Finland when Finland joined the Axis to right Russia after Germany declared war?
Von Witzleben
17-08-2004, 12:32
Did Britain and the USA declare war on Finland when Finland joined the Axis to right Russia after Germany declared war?
Just the UK. Not the US. And strangely enough Finnish Jews fought in the Finnish army against the Soviets.
Kanabia
17-08-2004, 12:41
Yes, but Marx had beaten him to it. Stalin wasn't the brightest of evil dictators.

Marx wasn't a dictator. He was an economist and theorist.
Demented Hamsters
17-08-2004, 13:38
The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do.


Proof that the Bush Admin are in fact Stalinists? ;)
Zigfurth
17-08-2004, 13:47
And strangely enough Finnish Jews fought in the Finnish army against the Soviets.

Not just the Jews, but also socialists and even some communists... And in the end of WW2 Finland fought against Germany, to get rid of this ex-sort-of-ally's troops in northern Finland. It wasn't necessary, as they were withdrawing anyhow, but Stalin demanded it. No war, no peace was the deal.

Stalin wasn't maybe a military genious or such, but he sure knew the fine art of back-stabbing. Kept him in the lead.
Superpower07
17-08-2004, 14:40
Ya know, Stalin was not his actual last name. It was this really hard to pronounce name that I forget how to spell
Kanabia
17-08-2004, 14:45
Ya know, Stalin was not his actual last name. It was this really hard to pronounce name that I forget how to spell

Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili.

It doesn't have quite the same ring to it, does it?
Brutanion
17-08-2004, 14:47
'If we kill a million of them and they kill and million of us and we kill a million of them and they kill a million of us then we shall outlast them'
-Reportedly by Stalin on tactics during WW2.

His real name was Iosef Vissarionovich Djugashvili and it's quite easy to say if you use the right accent (Georgian).
Stalin means 'man of steel'. Guess why.
He wasn't always a psychopath but he was unstable and when his wife died he lost all love of life.
Drabikstan
17-08-2004, 14:57
'If we kill a million of them and they kill and million of us and we kill a million of them and they kill a million of us then we shall outlast them'
-Reportedly by Stalin on tactics during WW2.

His real name was Iosef Vissarionovich Djugashvili and it's quite easy to say if you use the right accent (Georgian).
Stalin means 'man of steel'. Guess why.
He wasn't always a psychopath but he was unstable and when his wife died he lost all love of life. I thought he murdered his wife.
Valdyr
17-08-2004, 15:07
Some info on Stalin's family life:

"Stalin's first wife was Ekaterina Svanidze, to whom he was married for just three years until her death in 1907. At her funeral, Stalin said that any warm feelings he had for people died with her, for only she could melt his heart. He later ordered Ekaterina's relatives shot. With her he had a son, Yakov, with whom he did not get along in later years. Yakov served in the Red Army and was captured by the Nazis. They offered to exchange him for a German officer of higher rank, but Stalin turned the offer down, and Yakov is said to have died running into an electric fence in the camp where he was being held.

He had two children by his second wife, Nadezhda Alliluyeva, who died in 1932; officially she died of an illness, but it believed by many that she committed suicide. With her he had a son, Vassili, and a daughter, Svetlana. Vassili rose through the ranks of the Soviet Air Force, but died an alcoholic in 1962. Stalin doted on his daughter, but she eventually adopted the name Alliluyeva and defected from the Soviet Union in 1967."

Sheesh. From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin
Drabikstan
17-08-2004, 15:12
I always found it interesting how Stalin was popular among Russians even though he was ethnic Georgian.
Kanabia
17-08-2004, 15:29
I always found it interesting how Stalin was popular among Russians even though he was ethnic Georgian.
Heh, I guess they didn't care. Trotsky was a Jew, and many of the USSR's premiers were Ukrainians.
The Sword and Sheild
17-08-2004, 17:17
I always found it interesting how Stalin was popular among Russians even though he was ethnic Georgian.

He downplayed this a lot while he was in power, which includes the changing of his name. He used his "history" with the Red Army (particularly the First Cavalry Army, which split with Trotsky) as the beginning, he never really mentioned his Georgian history.
Kanabia
17-08-2004, 17:27
He downplayed this a lot while he was in power, which includes the changing of his name. He used his "history" with the Red Army (particularly the First Cavalry Army, which split with Trotsky) as the beginning, he never really mentioned his Georgian history.

Not true. He owed is position in the party to his Georgian background; He was Commissar of Nationalities in the early days of the Union.
Zigfurth
17-08-2004, 18:26
He had two children by his second wife, Nadezhda Alliluyeva, who died in 1932; officially she died of an illness, but it believed by many that she committed suicide.

Edvard Radzinski claims in his book about Stalin that Nadezhda really did commit suicide (with a small caliber pistol which was a present from her brother). I remember him having some quite believable evidence about it, too.
Santa Barbara
17-08-2004, 18:52
"I and my monstrously large mustache will bury you!" (1941)

"An army is only as strong as it's dictator's mustache." (1940, referring to Hitler's thin 'stache)
Kahrstein
17-08-2004, 18:57
Marx wasn't a dictator. He was an economist and theorist.

In reply to:

"Yes, but Marx had beaten him to it. Stalin wasn't the brightest of evil dictators."

I said Stalin, mate. I know Marx was useless. ("Economist" is a bit of a stretch...more of a self important moron.)
Kanabia
18-08-2004, 11:19
In reply to:

"Yes, but Marx had beaten him to it. Stalin wasn't the brightest of evil dictators."

I said Stalin, mate. I know Marx was useless. ("Economist" is a bit of a stretch...more of a self important moron.)

I misinterpreted your point. Sorry.

But he was an economist. He and Engels understood how 19th century capitalism worked better than any of their contemporaries.