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Jesus did drugs

MKULTRA
14-08-2004, 22:21
the book of Antiquities by Josephus there's a small mention of Jesus chewing hashish to kill the pain of an ankle injury as a teenager!
Joey P
14-08-2004, 22:22
Charlie Manson did drugs too.
Enodscopia
14-08-2004, 22:24
LOL where do you find this stuff MKULTRA.
MKULTRA
14-08-2004, 22:25
Charlie Manson did drugs too.
I know--he has a swastika tatoo on his forehead LOL
Im sure that scores alotta points with the Parole board :rolleyes:
MKULTRA
14-08-2004, 22:26
LOL where do you find this stuff MKULTRA.
*from obscure scources
MKULTRA
14-08-2004, 22:27
hash cookies are godly
Automagfreek
14-08-2004, 22:28
Did you get it from DemocracyNow?
DHomme
14-08-2004, 22:32
I know--he has a swastika tatoo on his forehead LOL
Im sure that scores alotta points with the Parole board :rolleyes:
Dont ever insult charlie manson in front of me. the man is a genius.

Helter Skelter
DHomme
14-08-2004, 22:34
oh yeah, before i forget. you got the chapter number for this, MKULTRA?
Arenestho
14-08-2004, 22:50
Jesus committed all 7 of the Deadly Sins (http://www.freewebs.com/see_the_truth/sinning%5Fnazarene.html) regularily, it's not surprising that he did other unsavoury things.
United Seekers
14-08-2004, 22:57
Are you sure it was Jesus the Christ and not another Jesus?
Josephus mentions many Jesuses in his writings and only one is assumed Jesus the Christ. Jesus was a very common name during the 1st Century.
Davistania
14-08-2004, 22:59
Jesus committed all 7 of the Deadly Sins (http://www.freewebs.com/see_the_truth/sinning%5Fnazarene.html) regularily, it's not surprising that he did other unsavoury things.

I find it funny/sad how a site can complain that Christians don't read their Bibles while at the same time doing the most piss-poor job of interpreting Gospel passages.

If Jesus committed all 7 of the Deadly Sins, then Animal Farm is a book about talking pigs, no more.
Arenestho
14-08-2004, 23:05
I find it funny/sad how a site can complain that Christians don't read their Bibles while at the same time doing the most piss-poor job of interpreting Gospel passages.

If Jesus committed all 7 of the Deadly Sins, then Animal Farm is a book about talking pigs, no more.
But there is proof that he did in those passages. It doesn't matter how you interpret the passages or why he did them, he has been recorded as committing all 7 Deadly Sins in the Bible.
MKULTRA
14-08-2004, 23:05
Did you get it from DemocracyNow?
no- it was from an AOL chatroom :cool:
MKULTRA
14-08-2004, 23:07
Dont ever insult charlie manson in front of me. the man is a genius.

Helter Skelter
what exactly does helter skelter mean?
MKULTRA
14-08-2004, 23:08
oh yeah, before i forget. you got the chapter number for this, MKULTRA?
ill look
MKULTRA
14-08-2004, 23:10
Jesus committed all 7 of the Deadly Sins (http://www.freewebs.com/see_the_truth/sinning%5Fnazarene.html) regularily, it's not surprising that he did other unsavoury things.
unsavoury is a loaded word
Davistania
14-08-2004, 23:11
But there is proof that he did in those passages. It doesn't matter how you interpret the passages or why he did them, he has been recorded as committing all 7 Deadly Sins in the Bible.

No. The authors are interpreting scripture in that way to make a biased point. But when you take parts of scripture that prove you absolutely WRONG, and then claim that they make you absolutely RIGHT, that's just dumb.
MKULTRA
14-08-2004, 23:11
Are you sure it was Jesus the Christ and not another Jesus?
Josephus mentions many Jesuses in his writings and only one is assumed Jesus the Christ. Jesus was a very common name during the 1st Century.
its common now too among certain ethnic groups but how many Jesuses are from Nazareth?
Communist Mississippi
14-08-2004, 23:12
the book of Antiquities by Josephus there's a small mention of Jesus chewing hashish to kill the pain of an ankle injury as a teenager!


I'm really getting tired of how you spam the forum up with 1000 topics that nobody really wants to hear. But alas, tis your right to do so, so long as you avoid violating the rules. Just be glad this isn't a communist dictatorship, or you'd be censored by the NKVD (CIA) or the KGB (NSA) or the MVD (ATF)
Luquillo
14-08-2004, 23:13
HELTER SKELTER!!!! beatles song greatest song ever!!! LOL
MKULTRA
14-08-2004, 23:14
I find it funny/sad how a site can complain that Christians don't read their Bibles while at the same time doing the most piss-poor job of interpreting Gospel passages.

If Jesus committed all 7 of the Deadly Sins, then Animal Farm is a book about talking pigs, no more.
it is about talking pigs--everything else is all interepretation
Abdeus
14-08-2004, 23:14
Dont ever insult charlie manson in front of me. the man is a genius.

Helter Skelter

There is a very thin line between genius and insanity, there is only one determining factor that divides the two. that is success. Yes charlie manson was a genius. mainly because he set his goals small.
Geomania
14-08-2004, 23:25
I wonder if the purpose of this thread was to bash Christianity....
Meatopiaa
14-08-2004, 23:56
Well it's good to see you follow in his footsteps then MKUltra.

However, I don't think Jesus just sat around the house all day doing nothing but smoke dope till his brain turned to mush... MKUltra :rolleyes:
Josh Dollins
14-08-2004, 23:58
the book of Antiquities by Josephus there's a small mention of Jesus chewing hashish to kill the pain of an ankle injury as a teenager!

So? it worked correct? He wasn't some strung out junkie abusing the junk now was he? I have nothing against people using things for medicinal purposes or responsibly
Harmino
15-08-2004, 00:08
I find it funny/sad how a site can complain that Christians don't read their Bibles while at the same time doing the most piss-poor job of interpreting Gospel passages.

If Jesus committed all 7 of the Deadly Sins, then Animal Farm is a book about talking pigs, no more.

I haven't read the bible, but as far as I've heard the 7 dealy sins aren't in it. Neither is hell. I've been told that those two things were added at about the same time the Catholic chruch was charging people money for confesional and communion.
_Susa_
15-08-2004, 00:10
the book of Antiquities by Josephus there's a small mention of Jesus chewing hashish to kill the pain of an ankle injury as a teenager!
Yea, but the book of Antiquities is not in the Bible. So I do not believe that is true. And hashish on its own is not a drug.
Euroslavia
15-08-2004, 00:10
But there is proof that he did in those passages. It doesn't matter how you interpret the passages or why he did them, he has been recorded as committing all 7 Deadly Sins in the Bible.


Whoever wrote this piece of crap website obviously manipulated the Bible to be whatever he thought it should be. If you actually read the full stories about Jesus, you'd understand. You can't just take out certain 'quotes'.
Lunatic Goofballs
15-08-2004, 00:11
the book of Antiquities by Josephus there's a small mention of Jesus chewing hashish to kill the pain of an ankle injury as a teenager!


LOL! WWJD? :D
Arenestho
15-08-2004, 00:42
Whoever wrote this piece of crap website obviously manipulated the Bible to be whatever he thought it should be. If you actually read the full stories about Jesus, you'd understand. You can't just take out certain 'quotes'.
Whether you take selective quotes or know the whole story, it doesn't change the fact that these events were recorded.
Davistania
15-08-2004, 00:57
Whether you take selective quotes or know the whole story, it doesn't change the fact that these events were recorded.

Yeah, but it does change the entire meaning of those events.
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 01:34
I'm really getting tired of how you spam the forum up with 1000 topics that nobody really wants to hear. But alas, tis your right to do so, so long as you avoid violating the rules. Just be glad this isn't a communist dictatorship, or you'd be censored by the NKVD (CIA) or the KGB (NSA) or the MVD (ATF)
But I just got done being gagged for a whole week and one day :gundge:
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 01:36
There is a very thin line between genius and insanity, there is only one determining factor that divides the two. that is success. Yes charlie manson was a genius. mainly because he set his goals small.
I think they should free the manson chicks
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 01:37
I wonder if the purpose of this thread was to bash Christianity....
no--it was to show that drugs are holy--and Jesus wasnt a Christian either btw ;)
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 01:40
So? it worked correct? He wasn't some strung out junkie abusing the junk now was he? I have nothing against people using things for medicinal purposes or responsiblywe should do everything in respectable doses
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 01:41
I haven't read the bible, but as far as I've heard the 7 dealy sins aren't in it. Neither is hell. I've been told that those two things were added at about the same time the Catholic chruch was charging people money for confesional and communion.
makes sense--the church cause the dark ages
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 01:43
Yea, but the book of Antiquities is not in the Bible. So I do not believe that is true. And hashish on its own is not a drug.
the Book of Antiquities is just as reliable as the Bible
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 01:45
Whoever wrote this piece of crap website obviously manipulated the Bible to be whatever he thought it should be. If you actually read the full stories about Jesus, you'd understand. You can't just take out certain 'quotes'.why not? christian fundies do it alla time to manipulate what they want the Bible to say...
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 01:47
LOL! WWJD? :D
whats WWJD?
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 01:49
Yeah, but it does change the entire meaning of those events.
how many interpretattions can there be for chewing hash?
Ecyjo2
15-08-2004, 01:53
whats WWJD?
what would jesus do?

it's supposed to be a reminder to christians to as what jesus would do is he were in their posision. i have a feeling that the real meaning was not that person's intention, though.
Ecyjo2
15-08-2004, 01:55
how many interpretattions can there be for chewing hash?
meaning not interpretation
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 01:56
what would jesus do?

it's supposed to be a reminder to christians to as what jesus would do is he were in their posision. i have a feeling that the real meaning was not that person's intention, though.
Jesus would chew drugs--that is why God created them in the first place
Ecyjo2
15-08-2004, 01:58
Jesus would chew drugs--that is why God created them in the first place
man created drugs out of plants that god created for good
Ecyjo2
15-08-2004, 02:03
if y'all will excuse me, i have to go give my baby brother his medication and i have to clean my mom's iv tubes. but feel free to contact me through the game and i will finish debating.
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 02:33
man created drugs out of plants that god created for good
and getting high is good yes it all adds up
Garkle
15-08-2004, 02:36
Very intersting posts, guys. Whatever happened to good ol' porn for a topic?
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 02:36
if y'all will excuse me, i have to go give my baby brother his medication and i have to clean my mom's iv tubes. but feel free to contact me through the game and i will finish debating.
those tubes scare me :(
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 02:37
Very intersting posts, guys. Whatever happened to good ol' porn for a topic?
porn is more of a non verbal topic
Sock Gnomes
15-08-2004, 02:45
Please note that the majority of the bible was written several hundred years after the death of Jesus, by people who didn't even speak his language. The writers of the bible father's father's weren't even born yet when Jesus lived. Plus the bible has been translated how many times? by how many govenments and kings (with their own agendas) over the past 1500 years? How accurate can it be to begin with?
Lunatic Goofballs
15-08-2004, 02:47
Please note that the majority of the bible was written several hundred years after the death of Jesus, by people who didn't even speak his language. The writers of the bible father's father's weren't even born yet when Jesus lived. Plus the bible has been translated how many times? by how many govenments and kings (with their own agendas) over the past 1500 years? How accurate can it be to begin with?

Especially if they'd all been doing hashish all that time! :D
Davistania
15-08-2004, 02:48
Please note that the majority of the bible was written several hundred years after the death of Jesus, by people who didn't even speak his language. The writers of the bible father's father's weren't even born yet when Jesus lived. Plus the bible has been translated how many times? by how many govenments and kings (with their own agendas) over the past 1500 years? How accurate can it be to begin with?

Several hundred years? No. The entire thing had been finished by at least 100 a.d.
Galtania
15-08-2004, 03:02
Several hundred years? No. The entire thing had been finished by at least 100 a.d.

This is correct, the other poster is wrong.

The last book of the Bible to be written was Revelation, c. 95 AD.

Also, Antiquities is not part of the Bible.

Some people need to get their facts straight.
Arenestho
15-08-2004, 03:12
Yeah, but it does change the entire meaning of those events.
How many meanings could Jesus and his disciples stealing corn have? Or stating that he is more important than one's own mother, father, sister, brother etc.?

MKULTRA, use the god damned edit button, foo.
Davistania
15-08-2004, 03:16
How many meanings could Jesus and his disciples stealing corn have? Or stating that he is more important than one's own mother, father, sister, brother etc.?

MKULTRA, use the god damned edit button, foo.

If he's Jesus Christ, then he *IS* more important than one's own mother, father, sister, brother, etc. That's not pride or vanity.

Could you *read* the passage about eating the corn? Because it proves you *exactly wrong*. The entire passage.
Nothern Homerica
15-08-2004, 03:19
Don't fuck with the Jesus!
Jobell
15-08-2004, 03:21
you've got to consider when things happen. back then, taking hash was like taking an asprin, and everybody drank wine because it was better and cleaner than water. now, doing stuff like that is un-christian (whatever you think that is)
Rhyno D
15-08-2004, 04:44
the book of Antiquities by Josephus there's a small mention of Jesus chewing hashish to kill the pain of an ankle injury as a teenager!

For one, I don't use that book...

Two, chewing something to stop pain and purposefully getting high are different things.
Keep in mind that his first recorded miracle was turning water to wine. The point is not that the drug itself is wrong, but getting high/drunk.
Kryozerkia
15-08-2004, 05:15
*from obscure scources
Direction citation please.
HadesRulesMuch
15-08-2004, 05:27
I find it funny/sad how a site can complain that Christians don't read their Bibles while at the same time doing the most piss-poor job of interpreting Gospel passages.

If Jesus committed all 7 of the Deadly Sins, then Animal Farm is a book about talking pigs, no more.


Well said.

That said, drinking wine is never called a sin. Drunkeness is however, a sin. Same as eating food is not a sin. However, gluttony is a sin. For those who don't understand the word gluttony, it is eating in excess.

That said, Davistania has already said everything else.
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 08:33
Please note that the majority of the bible was written several hundred years after the death of Jesus, by people who didn't even speak his language. The writers of the bible father's father's weren't even born yet when Jesus lived. Plus the bible has been translated how many times? by how many govenments and kings (with their own agendas) over the past 1500 years? How accurate can it be to begin with?
whats the oldest book in existence?
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 08:35
Especially if they'd all been doing hashish all that time! :Dthat can explain alotta biblical passages :rolleyes:
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 08:37
For one, I don't use that book...

Two, chewing something to stop pain and purposefully getting high are different things.
Keep in mind that his first recorded miracle was turning water to wine. The point is not that the drug itself is wrong, but getting high/drunk.
if he turned water to wine then Jesus was pro-high--wine also happens to go very good with hash
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 08:39
Direction citation please.
from the book of Antiquities
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 08:41
Well said.

That said, drinking wine is never called a sin. Drunkeness is however, a sin. Same as eating food is not a sin. However, gluttony is a sin. For those who don't understand the word gluttony, it is eating in excess.

That said, Davistania has already said everything else.but its impossibel to drink wine-even if its just one glass-and not have it not effect you at all
Freakin Sweet
15-08-2004, 09:50
Wow I am totally up for finding flaws in the bible but that jesus commiting the seven sins thing was the biggest crap ive ever read that was so funny. Its so funny how you can misslead people so easily by putting just part of a scripture. Also does anyone else seem to notice that when people read something online they immediately present it as PRROOOFF OH MY GOD I HAVE PROOFF!!
Keruvalia
15-08-2004, 09:53
the book of Antiquities by Josephus there's a small mention of Jesus chewing hashish to kill the pain of an ankle injury as a teenager!

Yep ... it was called "kaneh-bosm" in the Bible. Christian idiots tranlsated it to say "marsh reed", but it's actually cannabis and God demands it be used, accepting it above all other sacrifices.

Yet, it's illegal in the US. Stupid Christians.
Freakin Sweet
15-08-2004, 09:57
Heres the worlds oldest book NOT THE BIBLE which was written in scrolls. And Hashish was created in the thirteenth century... look it up.

http://www.antique-antiques.com/old-books-worlds-oldest-book.shtml
Freakin Sweet
15-08-2004, 10:01
One the bible goes from jesus being twelve to thirty, he at no point is recorded as a teenager. And god demanded animal sacrifices while he still demanded sacrifices. Infact read about why cain was jealous of able. God favored Able because he sacrifised a lamb while Cain sacrifised his crops.
Freakin Sweet
15-08-2004, 10:06
to correct myself saying that this other nonreliable source is correct. The earliest hash was eight hundred years after jesus.
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 18:27
Yep ... it was called "kaneh-bosm" in the Bible. Christian idiots tranlsated it to say "marsh reed", but it's actually cannabis and God demands it be used, accepting it above all other sacrifices.

Yet, it's illegal in the US. Stupid Christians.
self righteus christian hypocrite types ruin all the fun in America since the days of the Puritans
MKULTRA
15-08-2004, 18:29
Heres the worlds oldest book NOT THE BIBLE which was written in scrolls. And Hashish was created in the thirteenth century... look it up.

http://www.antique-antiques.com/old-books-worlds-oldest-book.shtmlwow-it was written in 24 karat gold