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Just wondering how people stand on keeping Israel as an "ally" of the United States.

Remain allied, but pressure them to move the settlements.

Continue to support them in all ways in their defense against terrorism and Europeon attacks.

Ok i fucked up the poll. The first two should be no, then for their reasons, and the second two should be yes for their reasons. my bad.

We should fully support Israel in the face of terrorists and dictatorships.

I say support them to kill any they want except Americans.

we should cease our unwavering and blind support for anything they do until they cease to be run by people who are no better than the "terrorists" they "fight"

Someone needs to help Israel, and the U.S. appears to be the only ones willing to do so. Europe hates Israel, and Russia hates Israel even more. China would be strong but has no apparent interest in the area. Therefore, especially since the U.S. needs an ally in the Middle East, and Bush seems to be content to piss off the Iranians, who could prove useful if they ever kick out the damn Ayatollah, Israel will have to do. Besides, there ought to be a primarily Jewish state somewhere in the world, and due to history, the Middle East seems logical even if Quebec would be more peaceful for them.

I say support them to kill any they want except Americans.

Nice.. very nice..

Someone needs to help Israel, and the U.S. appears to be the only ones willing to do so. Europe hates Israel, and Russia hates Israel even more. China would be strong but has no apparent interest in the area. Therefore, especially since the U.S. needs an ally in the Middle East, and Bush seems to be content to piss off the Iranians, who could prove useful if they ever kick out the damn Ayatollah, Israel will have to do. Besides, there ought to be a primarily Jewish state somewhere in the world, and due to history, the Middle East seems logical even if Quebec would be more peaceful for them.
We should always support them, but we should get them to put their house in order vis-a-vis the settlements. Then if anyone attacks them they could retaliate freely and the rest of the world would just have to deal with it.

Someone needs to help Israel, and the U.S. appears to be the only ones willing to do so. Europe hates Israel, and Russia hates Israel even more. China would be strong but has no apparent interest in the area. Therefore, especially since the U.S. needs an ally in the Middle East, and Bush seems to be content to piss off the Iranians, who could prove useful if they ever kick out the damn Ayatollah, Israel will have to do. Besides, there ought to be a primarily Jewish state somewhere in the world, and due to history, the Middle East seems logical even if Quebec would be more peaceful for them.


How about a primarily white state?

We had a primarily white continent (Europe) we also had the USA 92% white in the 1950s. But then in 1965 with the Immigration Reform Act of 1965, the jews through open the gates and allowed the 3rd world scum to swarm in at such a rate, in just 40 years, we've gone from 92% white to 65% white. It is happening to europe now. It'll consume you all.

How about a primarily white state?

We had a primarily white continent (Europe) we also had the USA 92% white in the 1950s. But then in 1965 with the Immigration Reform Act of 1965, the jews through open the gates and allowed the 3rd world scum to swarm in at such a rate, in just 40 years, we've gone from 92% white to 65% white. It is happening to europe now. It'll consume you all.
Nobody has ever tried to exterminate all the whites. A jewish state was a safeguard against another genocide attempt. If someone tried to kill off all the jews in europe again, they would have somewhere to run to. Remember that nobody wanted to take jewish refugees who tried to flee the nazis.

Someone needs to help Israel, and the U.S. appears to be the only ones willing to do so. Europe hates Israel, and Russia hates Israel even more. China would be strong but has no apparent interest in the area. Therefore, especially since the U.S. needs an ally in the Middle East, and Bush seems to be content to piss off the Iranians, who could prove useful if they ever kick out the damn Ayatollah, Israel will have to do. Besides, there ought to be a primarily Jewish state somewhere in the world, and due to history, the Middle East seems logical even if Quebec would be more peaceful for them.
you do realise israel doesnt count as an ally in the middle east because the muslims and arabs HATE the israelis for what they are doing to the palestinians, fellow muslims and arabs

How about a primarily white state?

We had a primarily white continent (Europe) we also had the USA 92% white in the 1950s. But then in 1965 with the Immigration Reform Act of 1965, the jews through open the gates and allowed the 3rd world scum to swarm in at such a rate, in just 40 years, we've gone from 92% white to 65% white. It is happening to europe now. It'll consume you all.
SHADDUP!

If abandoning Israel because you hates Jews is an option, where's supporting them because you hate Arabs? I don't like some of Israel's actions, but as a group I think less of the Palestinians than just about any other. They seem to be everything that's wrong about the Middle East only more, popping out babies and blowing people up and screaming fanatically, plus a corrupt, impotent government that's a bit crazy itself. I'm sure there are sane, reasonable people there, but they don't seem to do much. Anyway, I don't think we should totally support a hardline Israeli position (they own the West Bank) or a hardline Palestinian position (push Israel into the sea). We should be applying more pressure for Israel to move on a definitive, permanent solution (besides Israel owning the West Bank), without just giving the Palestinians everything. Sharon actually seems to be kind of sort of maybe doing that, in a less than perfect way, but we need to steer him some and get the rest of the Israeli government to cooperate.

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Sharon actually seems to be kind of sort of maybe doing that, in a less than perfect way, but we need to steer him some and get the rest of the Israeli government to cooperate.

You will never be able to steer Sharon. Sharon steers you.

People on here saying that Europe hates Israel are incorrect. Europe and Israel are allies. The EU is Israel's largest trading partner.

However, Europe does not support Israel's targeted assisination policy, its policy of illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories and its human rights abuses.

How about No, because then Israel will have to adopt sensible international relations and stop pissing off the entire middle east with their expansionism and brutality, instead of relying on the US to veto resolutions against them, give them lots of money to spend on tanks and jets, and invade tinpot dictators who oppose them.

I say the States shouldn't have taken sides in the first place and, then they get all surprised when Arabs start hating them. It's always best to stay neutral in situations like this.

Ok i fucked up the poll. The first two should be no, then for their reasons, and the second two should be yes for their reasons. my bad.

Yeah and in your third option you could have avoided the word "radical" since not all critical muslims are "radical". What makes you think that someone that speaks out against US support is a "radical" or worse anti semite? Very bad poll, and you fucked up indeed. :rolleyes:

Just wondering how people stand on keeping Israel as an "ally" of the United States.

I think that allying ourselves to raving lunatics makes us look bad in the eyes of the other raving lunatics.

Perhaps we should stop allying ourselves with raving lunatics at all. You know, just for a switch. ;)

The US should take a less one-sided approach to resolving the conflict with the Palestinians. They should remain an ally of Israel, but cease providing them with billions in military aid.

Look at Spain. They are an ally of the US and they have a terrorist problem. The US relationship with Israel should be a bit more like that with Spain.

I say support them to kill any they want except Americans.
Are your posts serious? All of them seem to be very extreme.

I say the States shouldn't have taken sides in the first place and, then they get all surprised when Arabs start hating them. It's always best to stay neutral in situations like this.

Bingo... You hit the nail right on the head..

Just wondering how people stand on keeping Israel as an "ally" of the United States.

Israel is a big boy. It doesn't need Mommy (i.e., the U.S.) to hold its hand anymore.

We should continue our support, even if it means Israel keeps its settlements. They should be dismantled, but I don't see it as a major issue. Israel provides great intelligence, and was pivotal to dettering a Soviet takeover of the area. Israel should be rewarded in this manner. However, being allies doesn't exactly mean unconditional support for eachother's actions.

Moreover, we should bring home all our troops from every country they're in, abandon all our foreign bases, pull out of every entangling alliance, bring an immediate and complete end to every kind of foreign aid, and then remain 100% neutral in every world conflict.

The relationship between Israel and the United States is not as "allies."
It's more like master and slave between Israel and the USA, respectively.

Remain allied, but pressure them to move the settlements.


I'd have to agree with this guy :rolleyes:

The relationship between Israel and the United States is not as "allies."
It's more like master and slave between Israel and the USA, respectively.
I welcome our Jewish masters :D.

I welcome our Jewish masters :D.

So you are a Jew yourself?

So you are a Jew yourself?
No, actually. I'm just a lover of lox.

No, actually. I'm just a lover of lox.
Christian Zionist??
Negro living off welfare created by Zionist occupied government????

Since you agree that the Jews are holding America a slave, what is your reasoning to support them as a goy?

Christian Zionist??
Negro living off welfare created by Zionist occupied government????

Since you agree that the Jews are holding America a slave, what is your reasoning to support them as a goy?
I'm none of the above. I'm a neocon, and I don't truely agree about this Jewish shit. I just see them as doing our dirty work in the Middle East, and see people like you standing in their way. In all honesty, however, I like thinking of the world as Jewish dominated, even though I'm not Jewish. I'm a Christian.

I'm none of the above. I'm a neocon, and I don't truely agree about this Jewish shit. I just see them as doing our dirty work in the Middle East, and see people like you standing in their way. In all honesty, however, I like thinking of the world as Jewish dominated, even though I'm not Jewish. I'm a Christian.

Doing our dirty work? They've dragged the White people into a conflict over whether Jews deserve to declare a piece of land already inhabited theirs using US dollars and blood. I agree Israel has the right to exist and Jews and Mohammedans can just keep blowing each other up as they please but White Christians should have nothing to do with it.

You seem to recognize the Jewish problem yet enjoy it, rather strangely.
Exactly what type of Christian are you?
Pat Robertson/ Jerry Falwell-style Zionist?
A neocon is essentially an ultrafanatical Zionist.

I'm starting to like you, Tenete Traditiones, so let me tell you more.
I'm actually a Lebanese Roman Catholic. I feel that degenerates like you are full of hot air. The master race, the Jews, have taken over large sections of society. Soon, the Jews will have one superstate, with their citizens as either slaves, or Jews themselves. It's time to let the New Jewish World Order in!

Doing our dirty work? They've dragged the White people into a conflict over whether Jews deserve to declare a piece of land already inhabited theirs using US dollars and blood. I agree Israel has the right to exist and Jews and Mohammedans can just keep blowing each other up as they please but White Christians should have nothing to do with it.

You seem to recognize the Jewish problem yet enjoy it, rather strangely.
Exactly what type of Christian are you?
Pat Robertson/ Jerry Falwell-style Zionist?
A neocon is essentially an ultrafanatical Zionist.
I'm starting to like you, Tenete Traditiones, so let me tell you more.
I'm actually a Lebanese Roman Catholic. I feel that degenerates like you are full of hot air. The master race, the Jews, have taken over large sections of society. Soon, the Jews will have one superstate, with their citizens as either slaves, or Jews themselves. It's time to let the New Jewish World Order in!

I'm starting to like you, Tenete Traditiones, so let me tell you more.
I'm actually a Lebanese Roman Catholic. I feel that degenerates like you are full of hot air. The master race, the Jews, have taken over large sections of society. Soon, the Jews will have one superstate, with their citizens as either slaves, or Jews themselves. It's time to let the New Jewish World Order in!

And antipope Karol Wojityla (aka john paul II) will head the New World Order?
You are a not a Roman Catholic as the Roman Catholic Church does not tolerate Jews.

I really dont know what kind of propaganda got into your head to turn a Lebanese Christian into a Jewish slave...
Disappointing as I support the Lebanese Nader for president if only to rid us of Israeli control.

I sense some possible Jewish deception in such an idiotic post. Your last two sentences lead me to believe you are really a Jew, or an idiot.

And antipope Karol Wojityla (aka john paul II) will head the New World Order?
You are a not a Roman Catholic as the Roman Catholic Church does not tolerate Jews.

I really dont know what kind of propaganda got into your head to turn a Lebanese Christian into a Jewish slave...
Disappointing as I support the Lebanese Nader for president if only to rid us of Israeli control.

I sense some possible Jewish deception in such an idiotic post. Your last two sentences lead me to believe you are really a Jew, or an idiot.
In any case, it's best to have Jewish domination. What's wrong with that?

Support them fully in all their endeavours.

In any case, it's best to have Jewish domination. What's wrong with that?
WHY?!

Just make sense of all you're ridiculous claims.
Unless you have some valid reasoning, you're either a Jew, a Zionist or a form of neo-Nazi who pretends to enjoy Jewish control as a form of propagation (in which case you are wasting your time with me).

Neither yes nor no; I have more issue with American international conduct than with Israeli. The Israelis do what they feel like they have to in order to survive (they are wrong, and the Palestinians get fucked, and so do the Israelis; meanwhile, American business makes huge profits). America should stop being an international terrorist state, not make Israel a scapegoat like Europe does.

WHY?!

Just make sense of all you're ridiculous claims.
Unless you have some valid reasoning, you're either a Jew, a Zionist or a form of neo-Nazi who pretends to enjoy Jewish control as a form of propagation (in which case you are wasting your time with me).
I'm not a Jew. Just someone who finds Israeli policy extremely attractive, and able to be applied throughout the world. Of course, we need the Jewish touch to do it.
And I'm not a neo-Nazi. Maybe I am a Zioniist. Okay, I'm a bit of one.

I'm not a Jew. Just someone who finds Israeli policy extremely attractive, and able to be applied throughout the world. Of course, we need the Jewish touch to do it.
And I'm not a neo-Nazi. Maybe I am a Zioniist. Okay, I'm a bit of one.
Are you a Zionist because the media tells you to be?
Or because your fake pope is a Zionist? What is your real religion?
What causes Goyim to worship the Jews?!!

Maybe we should open the Jewish holy book, the Talmud:

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
So I assume you and all of your children accept being animals.

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Watch out goy...

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
Well this one is just sick...

Much more Talmudic fun where those come from.

Are you a Zionist because the media tells you to be?
Or because your fake pope is a Zionist? What is your real religion?
What causes Goyim to worship the Jews?!!

Maybe we should open the Jewish holy book, the Talmud:

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
So I assume you and all of your children accept being animals.

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Watch out goy...

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
Well this one is just sick...

Much more Talmudic fun where those come from.
It's cool, man. They're just Jews wishing to have a good time. What have they done to you?

Lousy poll options! They have discriminated against a group of people by building that wall and not giving them freedom! That so-called security barrier is not really any better than the ones that the Germans surrounded Jewish ghettos with, after all, it's cut off many Palestineans from their livelihoods.

It's cool, man. They're just Jews wishing to have a good time. What have they done to you?

Your posts are getting increasingly asinine and annoying at this point. Each time you fail to make any sense, lacking any facts or answers backing up or at least justifying your bunch of ridiculous statements. I am almost sure you are a Jew or a Falwellian Zionist.

Your posts are getting increasingly asinine and annoying at this point. Each time you fail to make any sense, lacking any facts or answers backing up or at least justifying your bunch of ridiculous statements. I am almost sure you are a Jew or a Falwellian Zionist.
Your statements are also getting more asinine as the debate continues. Your last statement is very assuming. You're the pot calling the kettle black.

Your posts are getting increasingly asinine and annoying at this point. Each time you fail to make any sense, lacking any facts or answers backing up or at least justifying your bunch of ridiculous statements. I am almost sure you are a Jew or a Falwellian Zionist.
And I'm almost sure that you are just really some board teenager, on a computer in their room, pretending to be some anti Semite, aren't you? You're just trying to get my goat.
But seriously, what's wrong with global Jewish domination?

Your statements are also getting more asinine as the debate continues. Your last statement is very assuming. You're the pot calling the kettle black.
Asinine is the most accurate word to use for the whole lot of zionist slaves.
What statements are you referring to?
And what exactly do you mean in your last statement?

And I'm almost sure that you are just really some board teenager, on a computer in their room, pretending to be some anti Semite, aren't you? You're just trying to get my goat.
But seriously, what's wrong with global Jewish domination?

I am truly tired of this. All of your kind love to sit on computers making idiotic statements over and over again. Do you have no life besides spamming forums about how much you love "global Jewish domination?" Try explaining yourself for a change.

Asinine is the most accurate word to use for the whole lot of zionist slaves.

Now you're starting to sound like a bloody racist! Stop it since this is a public forum and people will get offended by such derogatory language. You might as well call them "kikes" and be done with it, same difference!

What statements are you referring to?
And what exactly do you mean in your last statement?
Well, you accused people of wasting time in this thread and being ignorant, when you are guilty of the same thing.

But seriously, what's wrong with global Jewish domination?
The same thing that's wrong with Islamic global domination and American global domination... I DO NOT WANT SOME RELIGIOUS FREAK OVERLORD ME LIFE! :D

Now you're starting to sound like a bloody racist! Stop it since this is a public forum and people will get offended by such derogatory language. You might as well call them "kikes" and be done with it, same difference!


Well, you accused people of wasting time in this thread and being ignorant, when you are guilty of the same thing.

Here we are again with the abstract statements. Give me the exact examples of me "calling the kettle black" on an issue.

I am truly tired of this. All of your kind love to sit on computers making idiotic statements over and over again. Do you have no life besides spamming forums about how much you love "global Jewish domination?" Try explaining yourself for a change.
Fine, then. I am a Zionist. I love the fact that Israel has been reestablished, and love how they've opposed the Soviet Union. However, through intimidation of OPEC by the Mossad, they forced these nations to lower world oil prices in the eighties. They saved the global economy from the Arabs. I believe that if they are in charge of the whole world, our economy can do truely wonderful things. As the old Jewish saying goes, "Think Yiddish, dress British."
PS: I believe this.

As the old Jewish saying goes, "Think Yiddish, dress British."

teehee... it even rhymes!

Fine, then. I am a Zionist. I love the fact that Israel has been reestablished, and love how they've opposed the Soviet Union. However, through intimidation of OPEC by the Mossad, they forced these nations to lower world oil prices in the eighties. They saved the global economy from the Arabs. I believe that if they are in charge of the whole world, our economy can do truely wonderful things. As the old Jewish saying goes, "Think Yiddish, dress British."
PS: I believe this.

And the question still remains...WHY?!!
How do you benefit?

And the question still remains...WHY?!!
How do you benefit?
I benefit because I have the satisfaction of knowing that I helped the world's greatest people get to power. Besides, with the Mossad, they'll dramatically improve the global economy, meaning more cash for me. It's the bling bling, baby!

Now, the only problem with telling Israelis to leave those settlements is that those disputed areas were all taken by Jews AFTER the Arabs attacked them. In several different wars the Israelis were attacked by numerous Arab nations, and in all of those wars the Israelis seriously whupped the Muslims. If the Muslims want to keep the Jews out of their land, stop giving them an excuse to take it! It is similar to if Canada attacked the US and lost, and as a result we Americans took, oh, say, Quebec as punishment.

Now, the only problem with telling Israelis to leave those settlements is that those disputed areas were all taken by Jews AFTER the Arabs attacked them. In several different wars the Israelis were attacked by numerous Arab nations, and in all of those wars the Israelis seriously whupped the Muslims. If the Muslims want to keep the Jews out of their land, stop giving them an excuse to take it! It is similar to if Canada attacked the US and lost, and as a result we Americans took, oh, say, Quebec as punishment.
Good! They're your problem now!

I benefit because I have the satisfaction of knowing that I helped the world's greatest people get to power. Besides, with the Mossad, they'll dramatically improve the global economy, meaning more cash for me. It's the bling bling, baby!
Okay I am tired of entertaining your comments. If you seek entertainment go and drool over Queer Eye or some other new propaganda released by the Jewish media. Here you just look foolish.

It's cool, man. They're just Jews wishing to have a good time. What have they done to you?


Are you insane? The man just said their books allow them to rape children!

Are you insane? The man just said their books allow them to rape children!
What book is that?

Okay I am tired of entertaining your comments. If you seek entertainment go and watch Queer Eye or some other new propaganda released by the Jewish media. Here you just look foolish.
You are certainly the most gullible person I've ever seen. I just wanted to lead you on, see where you'd stop. I never expected you to be so gullible. Although this is obviously all a ruse on your part, isn't it?

You are certainly the most gullible person I've ever seen. I just wanted to lead you on, see where you'd stop. I never expected you to be so gullible. Although this is obviously all a ruse on your part, isn't it?

Does it ever stop with you, goldberg?
If you're not going to have a serious discussion then go watch MTV!

What book is that?

The Talmud.

The Talmud.
o...k... what part? Direct citation please.

Does it ever stop with you, goldberg?
If you're not going to have a serious discussion then go watch MTV!
Ah, so you are serious about this stuff concerning Jews, aren't you?

MTV!



Owned by Sumner Redstone. Birth name: Sumner Murray Rothstein.



He also owns Nickelodeon and Viacom, along with VH1.

o...k... what part? Direct citation please.

Sanhedrin 54b
...Pederasty with a child below nine years of age is not deemed as pederasty with a child above that.

All that says is that the level of offense is not the same. It is worse to commit pederasty with a child under nine. Dumass.

All that says is that the level of offense is not the same. It is worse to commit pederasty with a child under nine. Dumass.
???????

Senseless posts are all too common around here.

All that says is that the level of offense is not the same. It is worse to commit pederasty with a child under nine. Dumass.


Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

All that says is that the level of offense is not the same. It is worse to commit pederasty with a child under nine. Dumass.


Oh so a 10 year old girl is fair game... Is that what you're saying? You freak!

Maybe we should open the Jewish holy book, the Talmud:

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
So I assume you and all of your children accept being animals.

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Watch out goy...

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
Well this one is just sick...

Much more Talmudic fun where those come from.

And I'm sure you took the time to look those up in the actual Talmud, right? :rolleyes: Or maybe you took them from Stormfront, Michael Hoffmann, Radio Islam, or some other asinine anti-semitic website. Real objective and knowledgable sources.

The "quotes" you have given are not accurate. They have all been thoroughly debunked by David Maddison and others.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/

http://groups.msn.com/Mishpocha/thetalmudpart1.msnw

Enjoy.

I say we remain indifferent, and Call each side on thier BS and btw the guy saying that the Talmud says all those things, Its not like the Koran doesnt have a few things promoting killing the infidels.

Nooo! Nooo! Don't do that! Don't leave us! YOU'RE THE ONLY GODDAMN THING WE'VE GOT! If it wasn't for you, the UN would have probably decided to dismantle us ages ago...

And if there's a single country out there who would always, always be by your side, that's us. Don't leave us, USA. We love you. :)

It was written long, long ago and is irrelevant(sp?) for modern life.
Jews keep it out of respect.
I mean, read the bible.
You don't burn sheep for god, do you? But according to it, you must.

It was written long, long ago and is irrelevant(sp?) for modern life.
Jews keep it out of respect.
I mean, read the bible.
You don't burn sheep for god, do you? But according to it, you must.

Well, first, the Talmud quotes that have been posted here, are, as I said, not accurate. Second, for Orthodox Jews, the Talmud is indeed relevant, but the majority of Jews on earth are not Orthodox. Third, the Talmud is indeed holy and sacred, but it is not inerrant; it is mostly composed of rabbinical dialectic and debate. The "Oral Law" is considered the Divine Word, but the rest of it- the DISCUSSION of it- is just a series of opinions. So even if one Rabbi did say something disrespectful about Gentiles (and some of them did), it is nothing short of dishonest for someone to try and extrapolate that to imply that this one guy's opinion is considered binding even to Orthodox Jews, much less the millions of non-Orthodox.

I say we remain indifferent, and Call each side on thier BS and btw the guy saying that the Talmud says all those things, Its not like the Koran doesnt have a few things promoting killing the infidels.

We were discussing the evils of the Jews. If you wish to start a thread about the Mohammedans then we can entertain that thought. The Talmud and Koran have many parallels.

The Talmud is the only holy book of any true Jew. Jews naturally hate God (Michael Newdow...) and the Talmud provides their golden calf.
Even Jews to the left of the Reform movement keep the Talmud in highest regard while the Torah is nothing but a joke used in the media.
The Talmud has many sick thoughts that Jews keep secret while they practice them in daily life. Since they control the entire western media, what can we expect?

The Talmud is the only holy book of any true Jew.

Prove it.

Jews naturally hate God

WTF? The Jews helped INVENT the idea of God.

the Talmud provides their golden calf.

Bullshit. I bet you've never even seen a copy of the Talmud.

Even Jews to the left of the Reform movement keep the Talmud in highest regard

Prove it. In my experience, many "lay" Reform Jews have little to no knowledge of the Talmud.

while the Torah is nothing but a joke used in the media.

Prove it.

The Talmud has many sick thoughts that Jews keep secret while they practice them in daily life.

Prove it. (And if it's "secret", how could you know about it?)

Since they control the entire western media, what can we expect?

The Jews who "control" the media are NOT studying the Talmud, idiot.

WTF? The Jews helped INVENT the idea of God.
Prove it.



Bullshit. I bet you've never even seen a copy of the Talmud.
The Talmud is very unGodly. Compiled entirely by man with no spiritual influence. Even though it violates Biblical law to add man's laws as part of God's scriptures, it's acceptable simply because the Rabbis says so...


Prove it. In my experience, many "lay" Reform Jews have little to no knowledge of the Talmud.
Knowledge is not needed to follow its rules which all Jews are well aware of in their daily lives.
Prove it.
The Talmud is well-above the Torah in the Jewish mind as the Torah lacks justifcation of Jewish superiority over the goyim.

Why would homosexuality be so supported by the Jews otherwise? Leviticus clearly condemns it. Is this part of the Jewish "self-interpretation" that lets you pick and choose parts of Bible and adapt it to your agenda? Interesting parallel with Protestantism in that regard I might add...




Prove it. (And if it's "secret", how could you know about it?)
Turn off TalmudVision.



The Jews who "control" the media are NOT studying the Talmud, idiot.

Studying? Why would they need to study? It says what they need it to say. They practice its warped laws each day when they decide what perverted programming to be put on talmudvision or what new wholesome Jewish character should be introduced next to guide the goyim animals...

I believe if you wish to remain allies with them, then you will remain targets. I believe that until there is some sort of peace brokered between Israel and Palestine the Americans should remain fair and neutral. Don't forget, Israel is a huge reason why you have half the middle east wanting to kill you. You have not been fair where Israel is concerned. Israel is no different then the terrorists. Both are as bad and both should be condemned.

The Jews helped INVENT the idea of God.Prove it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism

Judaism is the religion and culture of the Jewish people and the first recorded monotheistic faith.

Bullshit. I bet you've never even seen a copy of the Talmud.The Talmud is very unGodly. Compiled entirely by man with no spiritual influence.

The Talmud is filled with scriptural "influence", as it is a series of commentaries ON scripture. Furthermore, according to Orthodox theology, the Mishnah section of the Talmud- the actual "Oral Law"- was dictated to Moses at Sinai, along with the Written Torah. It doesn't get much more scriptural than that.

Even though it violates Biblical law to add man's laws as part of God's scriptures, it's acceptable simply because the Rabbis says so...

That is a gross oversimplification.

Prove it. In my experience, many "lay" Reform Jews have little to no knowledge of the Talmud. Knowledge is not needed to follow its rules which all Jews are well aware of in their daily lives.

What? That's absurd. How can you follow rules without knowing what they are? That's like saying "Knowledge about the American legal system isn't needed to follow the law which all Americans are aware of in their daily lives." Obviously, if you follow the laws, then you have KNOWLEDGE of them.

Furthermore, you have not proven your assertion. How do you know that "all Jews" are aware of Talmudic laws and guidelines, or, to address your earlier statement, that "all Jews hold the Talmud in highest regard"? There are plenty of unaffiliated Jews that have never even heard of the Talmud. I was raised as an unaffiliated Jew, and the first time I had ever heard of the Talmud was when I read it in a novel.

The Talmud is well-above the Torah in the Jewish mind as the Torah lacks justifcation of Jewish superiority over the goyim.

1. The Talmud does not state this.

2. The Talmud is not "well-above the Torah". Feel free to prove otherwise.

Why would homosexuality be so supported by the Jews otherwise?

Homosexuality is NOT supported by Orthodox Judaism, who, ironically, are the ones who DO study and venerate the Talmud.

Leviticus clearly condemns it. Is this part of the Jewish "self-interpretation" that lets you pick and choose parts of Bible and adapt it to your agenda? Interesting parallel with Protestantism in that regard

Yes, homosexuality is one issue on which many Jews engage in self-interpretation. However, this is NOT the same thing as Talmudic dialectic, which the Orthodox follow. And if you've done any research into Orthodox attitudes on homosexuality, you'd know they are far from supportive.

The Talmud has many sick thoughts that Jews keep secret while they practice them in daily life.Prove it. (And if it's "secret", how could you know about it?)Turn off TalmudVision.

How is this an answer to my question?


Since they control the entire western media, what can we expect?The Jews who "control" the media are NOT studying the Talmud, idiot.Studying? Why would they need to study? It says what they need it to say.

The whole POINT of the Talmud is that it is meant to be studied.

They practice its warped laws each day when they decide what perverted programming to be put on talmudvision or what new wholesome Jewish character should be introduced next to guide the goyim animals...

You know nothing of the Talmud or its laws, nor do you have any evidence suggesting that the secular Jewish media moguls are influenced by a book which, quite likely, they have never even read.

They're just as aggressive as those they are fighting. No one wants peace there--they want to win. And neither side will.

Get a different fuel source, and let the middle east blow itself up.

This poll is rather biased - what I would do is pressure Sharon to change his policies; they arent getting anywhere near towards peace