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Former governor of Maryland and allies state multiculturalism is "Crap" and "Bunk"

Decisive Action
14-08-2004, 08:50
About the former governor:

http://www.comp.state.md.us/main/about_the_comptroller/about_wds.asp

William Donald Schaefer has 48 years of public service including as mayor and councilman of Baltimore and governor of Maryland. A native of the state, Schaefer was born in Baltimore in 1921 and is currently the comptroller of Maryland. He served in the military during World War II and is a lawyer by training.




About what he said (Notice it only makes an obscure news site)

http://7am.com/cgi-bin/catwire.cgi?USA_1000_2004081202.htm

Md. Official Says Aliens Draining Health System
6:45 am PST, 12 August 2004

Maryland Comptroller William Donald Schaefer said Wednesday illegal aliens were draining health system resources, in what because his second criticism recently about immigration.


Schaefer made his comments during a Board of Public Works meeting in Annapolis, when he asked state health Secretary Nelson J. Sabatini how much the state spends on health care for illegal immigrants.

When told the figure was about $40 million, Schaefer replied, "Our own people, that is legitimate Americans, cannot get health care."

He added it would be a "tragedy" if the nation became bilingual, speaking English and Spanish.

Schaefer said he supports legal immigration but complained that some people who are not citizens do not have "green cards" ? which permit permanent residency ? and will not ask for one, The Washington Times reported.

The 82-year-old former governor was criticized for his comments by local Hispanic politicians and activists.

But Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., a Republican, came to Schaefer's defense.

Ehrlich has dismissed multiculturalism as "bunk" and "crap," and says immigrants should assimilate into U.S. culture.
BackwoodsSquatches
14-08-2004, 08:52
Will you shut the hell up you nazi swine?
Decisive Action
14-08-2004, 08:55
Will you shut the hell up you nazi swine?


No... No I won't shut up. And I resent the term "Nazi" and "Swine". I am neither, I'm simply an ordinary white man attempting to stand up for the land and race that I so love. Which is hardly a crime! Unless you'd like to be open about your ZOG police state and start opening the gulags that have been constructed throughout the USA over the last two decades!
BackwoodsSquatches
14-08-2004, 08:59
No... No I won't shut up. And I resent the term "Nazi" and "Swine". I am neither, I'm simply an ordinary white man attempting to stand up for the land and race that I so love. Which is hardly a crime! Unless you'd like to be open about your ZOG police state and start opening the gulags that have been constructed throughout the USA over the last two decades!


Oh whatever, your a white supremecist who delights in posting lies and half truths.

You people are never able to prove any of the filth you spew and you waste precious time and oxygen in doing so.
The Sword and Sheild
14-08-2004, 09:06
No... No I won't shut up. And I resent the term "Nazi" and "Swine". I am neither, I'm simply an ordinary white man attempting to stand up for the land and race that I so love. Which is hardly a crime! Unless you'd like to be open about your ZOG police state and start opening the gulags that have been constructed throughout the USA over the last two decades!

Dude, you don't have to worry about your local government imprisoning and silencing you, don't you know? The Alien Invasion will begin in 2012, the Government has already surrendered and is working with the aliens to create a hybrid alien/human to serve the aliens, since only these hybrids can survive the Holocaust that is to come.
The Island of Rose
14-08-2004, 09:09
I wonder what he thinks of Hispanics like myself :p
BackwoodsSquatches
14-08-2004, 09:13
I wonder what he thinks of Hispanics like myself :p


He hates you.

Becuase hes a small minded fool who was brainwashed by someone he once respected, and told that he ws "given the truth, and that it is US who are truly brainwashed, by the Jews.....half a world away."


But they can never prove it......so they make up lies and stories like this one.
Commie Bastard
14-08-2004, 09:14
He hates you.

Becuase hes a small minded fool who was brainwashed by someone he once respected, and told that he ws "given the truth, and that it is US who are truly brainwashed, by the Jews.....half a world away."


But they can never prove it......so they make up lies and stories like this one.


Talking about yourself? Hostile as always Woody. :)
The Island of Rose
14-08-2004, 09:17
Ironic thing is, one of my best friends is a Facist, though he's not racist he just believes a right-wing dictatorship is better.
BackwoodsSquatches
14-08-2004, 09:28
Talking about yourself? Hostile as always Woody. :)


Pffft!

No sir.

Im am most certainly not talking about myself.

Im am speaking about this white supremecist, and many others.
You see, they almost often fall into a pattern.

I have spent many many hours speaking to them, and debating them on this very forum.
I havent lost one yet, but thats hardly the point...

The point is.....they spew and spew...with little substance.
THE LOST PLANET
14-08-2004, 11:22
Pffft!

No sir.

Im am most certainly not talking about myself.

Im am speaking about this white supremecist, and many others.
You see, they almost often fall into a pattern.

I have spent many many hours speaking to them, and debating them on this very forum.
I havent lost one yet, but thats hardly the point...

The point is.....they spew and spew...with little substance.Hey squatch, what's up. I was reading the original post and was wondering what immigration issues have to do with multiculturalism. Don't these wack jobs realize one is not the other. Narrow minds never bother to read the definitions.
Stolen Pies
14-08-2004, 11:47
Dude, you don't have to worry about your local government imprisoning and silencing you, don't you know? The Alien Invasion will begin in 2012, the Government has already surrendered and is working with the aliens to create a hybrid alien/human to serve the aliens, since only these hybrids can survive the Holocaust that is to come.

*waits for newspaper articles about digestive juices*
Stolen Pies
14-08-2004, 11:49
Hey squatch, what's up. I was reading the original post and was wondering what immigration issues have to do with multiculturalism. Don't these wack jobs realize one is not the other. Narrow minds never bother to read the definitions.

The original post was kind of incoherent anyhow. I'd say it's open to interpretation.
Hajekistan
15-08-2004, 06:04
This thread is a desperate cry for help, help and cake.
Enodscopia
15-08-2004, 06:33
I support brutally killing all the illegals along with murders, rapists, and and child molesters. I hate multiculturalism, one of the ONLY things I hate about America is how much the white race is discriminated against. I have no problem with legal immigration as long as they learn fluent english and don't try to shove the BS culture down my throat. This is why I support annexing Mexico and Canada.
Communist Mississippi
15-08-2004, 06:38
I support brutally killing all the illegals along with murders, rapists, and and child molesters. I hate multiculturalism, one of the ONLY things I hate about America is how much the white race is discriminated against. I have no problem with legal immigration as long as they learn fluent english and don't try to shove the BS culture down my throat. This is why I support annexing Mexico and Canada.


You do realize if we annexed Mexico and Canada, tens of millions of non-whites would become US citizens overnight and they'd be able to move about the entire US "Empire" at their leisure. (There are millions of non-white immigrants in Canada) and Mexico has over 80 million people.
Doomduckistan
15-08-2004, 06:41
I support brutally killing all the illegals along with murders, rapists, and and child molesters. I hate multiculturalism, one of the ONLY things I hate about America is how much the white race is discriminated against. I have no problem with legal immigration as long as they learn fluent english and don't try to shove the BS culture down my throat. This is why I support annexing Mexico and Canada.
Thoughts going through my mind as I read this, sentence by sentence.

[1] Meh. The death penalty is already in place. Anything more brutal is inefficient. I'd rather forcibly castrate rapists and molesters, anyhow. Preferrably cauterizing it with a hot object, too, if I were feeling like doing a Capital Punishment Torture suggestion. But that's too cruel, anyhow.
[2] White race discriminated against? Maybe. We don't get to make racist jokes while everyone else can, but that's about it. And sometimes we get refused to college for an equal or slightly less deserving person of a different race. Not much discrimination.
[3] To each his own- some people don't like other cultures. I agree with the English comment, if only out of pragmatism- translators are too complicated.
[4] ...Bwuh? Annexing... Canada... and Mexico? Where in the nonexistant God did that come from? Why? Wouldn't taht just make your anti-multiculturalism problem worse? Unless you're advocating the extermination of all Mexicans and Canadians, of course.
Ice Hockey Players
15-08-2004, 06:46
I support brutally killing all the illegals along with murders, rapists, and and child molesters. I hate multiculturalism, one of the ONLY things I hate about America is how much the white race is discriminated against. I have no problem with legal immigration as long as they learn fluent english and don't try to shove the BS culture down my throat. This is why I support annexing Mexico and Canada.

Just thought you should know how scary that is. I am no illegal alien; I am a U.S. citizen, but "brutally killing" illegals along with rapists is more than just a little extreme. I should add that i oppose the death penalty in all forms and believe that legal immigration should be more readily available as an option for those who are willing to be productive members of society, cultural preference be damned. People in some God-forsaken region of New Mexico are hardly hurting me by speaking Spanish, and if people in San Francisco want to speak Chinese, it isn't hurting me a bit. Multiculturalism is hardly a stain on the U.S.

Also, annexing Mexico and Canada is simply madness. Aside from the fact that the entire world would oppose it and may even go to war with us over it, it's insane. What's the use? U.S. imperialism and the "white race" be damned, because rest assured it isn't being discriminated against any more than it is discriminated in favor. Whites have the money, and money talks in the U.S. far more than skin color. White and black matters to some extent, but green matters far more, and it just so happens whites have more of it. That's just how history falls. Personally I don't give a damn about my "race", since I didn't pick it. I didn't pick my country of birth, but I can sure as hell pick a country to identify with. I just happened to choose my own, at least for now. Racial divisions and birthrights don't mean jack; it's choices that are all-important, and identifying as "white" at the expense of all other races (and I have yet to meet anyone who is actually pro-white without being anti-nonwhite for real) is completely bogus. People need to mind their own business and actually deal with things that hurt them.
Enodscopia
15-08-2004, 06:50
You do realize if we annexed Mexico and Canada, tens of millions of non-whites would become US citizens overnight and they'd be able to move about the entire US "Empire" at their leisure. (There are millions of non-white immigrants in Canada) and Mexico has over 80 million people.

I never said make them citizens just make the US nationals but make them pay taxes.
Doomduckistan
15-08-2004, 06:59
Just thought you should know how scary that is. I am no illegal alien; I am a U.S. citizen, but "brutally killing" illegals along with rapists is more than just a little extreme.

Whoah, wait, he said kill all illegal immigrants along with rapists, murderers, and child molesters? I take back my "Meh" on my earlier post and change it to "William Tare Fox?/Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?/Wakumi Tiunor Flo?"
The Sword and Sheild
15-08-2004, 07:01
I never said make them citizens just make the US nationals but make them pay taxes.

Becuase it worked so well for the British in that colony of theirs.... what was it called?
Enodscopia
15-08-2004, 07:05
Becuase it worked so well for the British in that colony of theirs.... what was it called?

Thats cause they were fighting against Americans no one can beat Americans.
Doomduckistan
15-08-2004, 07:06
Thats cause they were fighting against Americans no one can beat Americans.

There were no Americans until 1776.
The Sword and Sheild
15-08-2004, 07:06
Thats cause they were fighting against Americans no one can beat Americans.

The Canadians did, twice, and burnt our capitol, and that was the only two times we've fought them.
Enodscopia
15-08-2004, 07:08
The Canadians did, twice, and burnt our capitol, and that was the only two times we've fought them.

They didn't beat us now did they, thats why it is the United States of America not the United States of Canada.
Doomduckistan
15-08-2004, 07:08
They didn't beat us now did they, thats why it is the United States of America not the United States of Canada.

Duh, if we lost, you'd have no America to brag about. The chances of a country that exists losing a battle in the past is 0:1.
The Sword and Sheild
15-08-2004, 07:09
They didn't beat us now did they, thats why it is the United States of America not the United States of Canada.

Every single US invasion of Canada was a failure, and when the Canadians came down here (with the British) they laid waste to our capitol. They were simply to nice to invade the entire US, even if they could it's an awful lot of trouble that they didn't need. But the fact stands, the Canadians have beaten us in two wars, and they weren't even our main opponents.
Enodscopia
15-08-2004, 07:09
There were no Americans until 1776.

Officialy, but they were Americans in mind from the second the first shots wrang out at Concord and Lexington.
OnyxRose
15-08-2004, 07:11
Hate to tell you this and burst your bubble and all, but *looks around* this country, the United States, it was founded on multi-culturalisim. Yes sadly it is true. I know it breaks my heart to tell you that. Have you heard of those evil Amish, they speak *gasp* a language called Pennslyvania Dutch and You have Those Cajun's that well no one can rightly tell what they are saying. And Those damn Idjuns that are trying to keep their language alive why hell Lets just shoot them. What the hell them damn fools wanna go an do dat fer any ways...

*rolls her Eyes*

Look this country has no, none, zip true culture of its own. It is a combination of a melting pot. Why because the we do not really speak english, we speak a form of english. Trust me after talking to someone from England... American English is nothing close to British English. But we are Multi Cultural in our very fiber. The Native population, the first settlers, the next group and so on. That is what makes this a great place. Is everyone that comes here adds to it.

This is not a "white country" nor is it a "christian" Country... sorry my grampa's folks were here way before any of those light skin bible thumpers got here.. lol Spainish influence, French influence, African, Dutch, etc.... etc... it has been here since this country started... it didnt just all of a sudden spring up.

It is just now we are not forceing anyone to try to conform by saying ok you can no longer speak your language or practice your customs. Which to me is a good thing. My family knows the horrors of what happens when the government tries to force people to conform and blend in and lose thier self. it aint pretty. :(

I do agree that all legal forms should be in English, that you should have to learn the language if you want to immigrate, to get aide, etc. Most ESL class I have seen are free.. But at the same time it has to be done in a diplomatic way not in a way of... ok your here now you can never use your langage again. also it has to be made availible to them when they can use it... I know in my area.. there are alot of farm workers... they leave at sun up come home sun down... not alot of time in between especially when you have a family.
Communist Mississippi
15-08-2004, 07:13
This is not a "white country" nor is it a "christian" Country... sorry my grampa's folks were here way before any of those light skin bible thumpers got here.. lol Spainish influence, French influence, African, Dutch, etc.... etc... it has been here since this country started... it didnt just all of a sudden spring up.




You do realize that the French, Dutch, and Spanish are all Europeans and are part of the white race. Do you not?


Naturalization Act of 1790:

March 26, 1790 - The U.S. Congress, in the Act of March 26, 1790, states that "any alien, being a free white person who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for a term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof."
Enodscopia
15-08-2004, 07:15
Hate to tell you this and burst your bubble and all, but *looks around* this country, the United States, it was founded on multi-culturalisim. Yes sadly it is true. I know it breaks my heart to tell you that. Have you heard of those evil Amish, they speak *gasp* a language called Pennslyvania Dutch and You have Those Cajun's that well no one can rightly tell what they are saying. And Those damn Idjuns that are trying to keep their language alive why hell Lets just shoot them. What the hell them damn fools wanna go an do dat fer any ways...

*rolls her Eyes*

Look this country has no, none, zip true culture of its own. It is a combination of a melting pot. Why because the we do not really speak english, we speak a form of english. Trust me after talking to someone from England... American English is nothing close to British English. But we are Multi Cultural in our very fiber. The Native population, the first settlers, the next group and so on. That is what makes this a great place. Is everyone that comes here adds to it.

This is not a "white country" nor is it a "christian" Country... sorry my grampa's folks were here way before any of those light skin bible thumpers got here.. lol Spainish influence, French influence, African, Dutch, etc.... etc... it has been here since this country started... it didnt just all of a sudden spring up.

It is just now we are not forceing anyone to try to conform by saying ok you can no longer speak your language or practice your customs. Which to me is a good thing. My family knows the horrors of what happens when the government tries to force people to conform and blend in and lose thier self. it aint pretty. :(

I do agree that all legal forms should be in English, that you should have to learn the language if you want to immigrate, to get aide, etc. Most ESL class I have seen are free.. But at the same time it has to be done in a diplomatic way not in a way of... ok your here now you can never use your langage again. also it has to be made availible to them when they can use it... I know in my area.. there are alot of farm workers... they leave at sun up come home sun down... not alot of time in between especially when you have a family.

They shouldn't be allowed to work until they have mastered the English language. And are you one of the people who say indians bear more claim to the land than me.