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Everyone here, I hope, knows what woman's sufferage is. If not, in the USA (go america!) it's the right of women to cast their votes along side men. It's not that incredible of an idea and there are plenty of different kinds of sufferage: Black sufferage, non-land owners sufferage, ect.

Easily, this is one of the most important things to happen to women in America since the creation of the self cleaning oven.

So, I decided to test this and it went something like this:

I was at the local Quiznos (not a bad place) and there were two girls, one a slim hispanic girl who seemed to be completely representative of the valley she grew up in. The other was a slightly overweight but still attractive-ish girl with dyed black hair and a nose ring or four.

While ordering my bad ass BLT (hold the lettuce though, I don't like the crunch) with extra ranch sauce I asked them the following question:

What do you think of the current sufferage of women in America?

Granted, it's a slightly misleading question but if any one payed attention during seventh grade civics class it should be pretty damn obvious. Like asking someone the difference in weight between a ton of feathers and a ton of dog shit.

Nose ring girl made a graceful yet utterly moronic response: I've never really been discriminated against for being a women, you know? I don't suffer too much and this is an okay job.

The hispanic girl from the valley was comedic gold. She said: I've also never been discriminated (she mispronounced the word a few times before getting it right, the dumbass.) against. I mean, I've been discriminated against for being mexican and being a lesbian but never for being a woman.

Well damn, stunned silence from this peanut gallerey. I mean:

A) How is it that the American education system is so backwards that I should meet two people as dumb as this?

B) An attractive lesbian from the valley?

C) Are they really this stupid or are they screwing with me?

Another 10 minutes of conversation concluded that they were indeed that stupid. I left them, BLT in hand, with one final question:

So do you think we need to work to remove all womans sufferage from American soil?

They both gave me a vehement 'YES'

That's funny.

Why do you feel the need to try to feel so superior to these people by belittling them?
Honestly, that's not cool man.

I don't care what point you're trying to prove, you're not going to be able to prove it honorably or decently if you go about it by mocking people.

"Be genuine, not condescending."

Actually, Sufferage is now considered "Universal".
Womens Sufferage no longer technically exists.
So you asked a question that made no sense what so ever.
Perhaps if really understood what you were talking about instead of just managed to wrap your feeble mind around the similarities between suferage and suffering you might have been able to engage two teen agers in an enlightening experience.
Instead, you merely demonstrated that you are smart enough to make a fool of yourself while trying to make a fool of teenage girls(what a hard target I might add).

Oh sure, blame the educational system.

Erm...dude


you asked two Hispanics at a Quiznos. Chances are, they either haven't finished High School, or only finished High School and not go to college.

Or they just don't pay attention.

Oh, and we don't get seventh grade civics. I've just completed 8th grade in California and if I were those girls, probably would've said the same.

Meh *shrugs*


And our educational system needs a lotta help.

Heh, yes, people really are that stupid. You hear a lot of stories about stopping people on the street and asking them random trivia questions about anything - politics, science, marine biology - and if they aren't hilarious they're really, really sad.

Why do you feel the need to try to feel so superior to these people by belittling them?
Honestly, that's not cool man.

I don't care what point you're trying to prove, you're not going to be able to prove it honorably or decently if you go about it by mocking people.

"Be genuine, not condescending."

The beautiful thing is that I didn't mock them. The entire conversation was polite and pleasant. Like I said, they were reasonably attractive and I go that extra length to contain my assholishness for the reasonably attractive women out there.

Do you feel they weren't stupid for not having a clue about their most important civil liberty? The answers they gave me should be grounds for having your knee caps broken regardless of the gender. You shouldn't be allowed to reach voting age and not be able to answer that question.

....or maybe they don't think women should be able to vote?

Oh, and I forgot to mention their ages. They both attend Monterey Penninsula college so I can wager that they were between 19 and 21.

Only the one I mentioned was hispanic was hispanic.

I agree, it's not the nicest thing to do

But I can't help it - it was a hilarious scenario, and well played. I would have done the same in all likelihood :)

Hmmm, cheap shot.



But damn, it's funny to take the piss out of morons...

Actually, Sufferage is now considered "Universal".
Womens Sufferage no longer technically exists.
So you asked a question that made no sense what so ever.
Perhaps if really understood what you were talking about instead of just managed to wrap your feeble mind around the similarities between suferage and suffering you might have been able to engage two teen agers in an enlightening experience.
Instead, you merely demonstrated that you are smart enough to make a fool of yourself while trying to make a fool of teenage girls(what a hard target I might add).

Universal sufferage? Sorry, doesn't exist. There are a lot of people who aren't allowed to vote, by law, in the US. And as for my 'feeble' mind, yes I'm aware of the phonetic semblence between suffering and sufferage. They are two distinct ideas, however. Sufferage has NEVER in the history of the language meant 'to suffer'. It means the responsibility to vote. Don't defend stupid people.

Funny, but it's been done many times.

Like I said, they were reasonably attractive and I go that extra length to contain my assholishness for the reasonably attractive women out there.

Usually the attractive ones....

A.)deserve the assholic treatment

B.)are dumber than a bag of rocks

C.)both

Usually the attractive ones....

A.)deserve the assholic treatment

B.)are dumber than a bag of rocks

C.)both

Like I said, the REASONABLY attractive girls.

I mentally label the ones that obviously wasted the better half of their morning on cosmetics as stupid right from the get go.

Yes, they're stupid and yet you walked out the door with a pork sandwich and extra ranch sauce, aka "Heart attack on Bun."

Yes, they're stupid and yet you walked out the door with a pork sandwich and extra ranch sauce, aka "Heart attack on Bun."

Yes, a true heart attack if you live a sedentary life. However, given my prediliction towards running around 20-30 miles a week, I think I'll be okay.

gee hun, maybe they were just being NICE to the stupid american boy who thought that the word was SUFFRAGE instead of suffering. (especially if you pronounced it like you spelled it.)

gee hun, maybe they were just being NICE to the stupid american boy who thought that the word was SUFFRAGE instead of suffering. (especially if you pronounced it like you spelled it.)

I misspelled it? Well, I'll be. Thanks, I'm better educated now. Fortunately the word hasn't any large phonetic difference so I doubt that was what they were doing.

Nope, they were being stupid. I know it in my heart. The same place where Jesus is, in fact.

i personnally don't feel that this was a fair test
why didn't you ask two guys aswell see if they were just as dumb? or were you afraid of a similar response?

i personnally don't feel that this was a fair test
why didn't you ask two guys aswell see if they were just as dumb? or were you afraid of a similar response?

Okay, I'll go do that real fast. It's a good point.

What would an intelligent person be doing working at a Quiznos?

Subway is where it's at. :D

They both knew.

One was 19, entered the navy just after graduating highschool a little while ago and hasn't attended any classes in between.

One was 22, aspiring actor, college student.

Thank god for Ashmoria. I was getting sadder and sadder with each repetition of the word "sufferage" as opposed to "suffrage". Now I have hope for humanity again.

I misspelled it? Well, I'll be. Thanks, I'm better educated now. Fortunately the word hasn't any large phonetic difference so I doubt that was what they were doing.

Nope, they were being stupid. I know it in my heart. The same place where Jesus is, in fact.
well you did use it in a very odd manner
its not like you asked them about womens suffrage

Usually the attractive ones....

A.)deserve the assholic treatment.
If you say so.. :D

Universal sufferage? Sorry, doesn't exist. There are a lot of people who aren't allowed to vote, by law, in the US. And as for my 'feeble' mind, yes I'm aware of the phonetic semblence between suffering and sufferage. They are two distinct ideas, however. Sufferage has NEVER in the history of the language meant 'to suffer'. It means the responsibility to vote. Don't defend stupid people.

To my point of American Suffrage being Universal.
Suffrage:
18 years of age; universal
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html

I am far more inclined to accept the CIAs perspective on the matter then that of someone who takes some strange gratification in belittling women(behind their backs no less, and in broad generalizing terms).
So YES American Suffrage IS universal whether or not you agree.
As far as defending stupid people, I dont.
I never attempted to defend you at all.

Sufferage and Suffrage I am arguing with Nigh and I misspelled the word as well.
It doesnt change the fact that he or I can use it correctly in a sentence.
While I disagree with him, his thread isnt a grammar lesson.
If it was I would have posted, knowing I would make a complete fool of myself.
Nigh you will have to excuse my slights on your character as the impersonal nature of the internet turns me into a snot.

On the first season of The Man Show, they put up a booth on a busy street with petitions to "End Womens Sufferage" ...

Lots of women signed it (men too) and they even got a couple of women to help get the petition signed.

It was hilarious.

Seventh grade civics, eh? I'm going into 9th grade and I didn't know what Women's Sufferage was. I think "seventh grade civics" has been moved up into high school, buddy.

Heh, yes, people really are that stupid. You hear a lot of stories about stopping people on the street and asking them random trivia questions about anything - politics, science, marine biology - and if they aren't hilarious they're really, really sad.

yeah, those shows are very sad.
have you ever seen rick mercer's talking to americans? he goes to the states and tells people that canada just fot electric light bulbs and the like and they congratulate us for getting electricity, cars, for having a giant igloo for the parliment building... one kid actually caught on when he was saying how most canadian grade schoolers didn't know the names of their governors or the capitals of all the states... the kid knew that canada had provinces while his mother was deploring the ignorance of canadian children.
he also spoke to bush and gore previous to the 2000 election. bush believed that the prime minister's name was jean poutine, as did his aides and gore believed that toronto was the nation's capital.

Usually the attractive ones....

A.)deserve the assholic treatment

B.)are dumber than a bag of rocks

C.)both

by which i take it you never stand a chance in hell with anyone remotely attractive, jackass.
i'm sure i could massacre you in an intelligence test.

Everyone here, I hope, knows what woman's sufferage is. If not, in the USA (go america!) it's the right of women to cast their votes along side men. It's not that incredible of an idea and there are plenty of different kinds of sufferage: Black sufferage, non-land owners sufferage, ect.

Easily, this is one of the most important things to happen to women in America since the creation of the self cleaning oven.

So, I decided to test this and it went something like this:

I was at the local Quiznos (not a bad place) and there were two girls, one a slim hispanic girl who seemed to be completely representative of the valley she grew up in. The other was a slightly overweight but still attractive-ish girl with dyed black hair and a nose ring or four.

While ordering my bad ass BLT (hold the lettuce though, I don't like the crunch) with extra ranch sauce I asked them the following question:

What do you think of the current sufferage of women in America?

Granted, it's a slightly misleading question but if any one payed attention during seventh grade civics class it should be pretty damn obvious. Like asking someone the difference in weight between a ton of feathers and a ton of dog shit.

Nose ring girl made a graceful yet utterly moronic response: I've never really been discriminated against for being a women, you know? I don't suffer too much and this is an okay job.

The hispanic girl from the valley was comedic gold. She said: I've also never been discriminated (she mispronounced the word a few times before getting it right, the dumbass.) against. I mean, I've been discriminated against for being mexican and being a lesbian but never for being a woman.

Well damn, stunned silence from this peanut gallerey. I mean:

A) How is it that the American education system is so backwards that I should meet two people as dumb as this?

B) An attractive lesbian from the valley?

C) Are they really this stupid or are they screwing with me?

Another 10 minutes of conversation concluded that they were indeed that stupid. I left them, BLT in hand, with one final question:

So do you think we need to work to remove all womans sufferage from American soil?

They both gave me a vehement 'YES'


People have done similar things for years now.