NationStates Jolt Archive


Texas: Yay or Nay

Free Soviets
13-08-2004, 08:18
because i keep misreading the other topic as this.
Unfree People
13-08-2004, 08:29
You too huh? Yeah, and I do hate Texans. They tend to piss on our state like it's their dumping ground and then steal our water...yeah Texans are great... not.
Northern Gimpland
13-08-2004, 08:32
Quote from George Bush:

"Don't mess with Texas!"

So quick, lets all vote Yay before we get arressted by the FBI.
THE LOST PLANET
13-08-2004, 10:35
I've been to Texas, I have no desire to return. Nay
Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 13:22
Quote from George Bush:

"Don't mess with Texas!"

Meh ... that's not from Bush ... it's our State's "don't litter" message.
Monkeypimp
13-08-2004, 13:31
Everythings bigger in Texas! Including the people.
Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 13:44
Everythings bigger in Texas! Including the people.

Well I am 6'4" (1.93m)...
New Raveena
13-08-2004, 13:47
Only good thing to come out of Texas is the concept for the Preacher graphic novels....think they're called comics in the US :cool:
Free Soviets
13-08-2004, 20:21
then steal our water

in texas' defense, they also want to pump water from my great lakes out to the deserts of arizona. thought of the day - if you live somewhere where you have to divert water from elsewhere, perhaps you should think about moving somewhere fit for human habitation.
Dakini
13-08-2004, 20:22
i thought this said taxes...

all i really know about texas is that ozzy osbourne is banned from there for taking a leak on the alamo.
Communist Mississippi
13-08-2004, 20:23
in texas' defense, they also want to pump water from my great lakes out to the deserts of arizona. thought of the day - if you live somewhere where you have to divert water from elsewhere, perhaps you should think about moving somewhere fit for human habitation.


My father was talking about the fuel shortages when the Texas oil barons said, "Let them yankees freeze!"


May father said "The texans can have all the water from our great lakes that they want... 50 bucks per barrel!"
Kerubia
13-08-2004, 20:25
Only steers and queers come from Texas.
Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 20:34
all i really know about texas is that ozzy osbourne is banned from there for taking a leak on the alamo.

Ozzy was banned from playing in San Antonio, not from the whole state, and the ban was only for 10 years. The ban has been lifted.
Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 20:36
Only steers and queers come from Texas.

Dork
Snub Nose 38
13-08-2004, 20:42
Forced to vote "Yay". My daughter's a grad student at SMU in Dallas.

Anywho, been to Texas and it's got some good stuff. And they were smart enough to export George Bush. I could forgive them all their other minor faults if they'd only take him back. :cool:
New Genoa
13-08-2004, 20:42
Didn't texas try to ban homosexuality?
Divine Caandolos
13-08-2004, 20:43
Dork

Flame.

Anyway, anyone seen Full Metal Jacket? Everytime I hear Texas, I think of that scene.

"Where in the hell you from anyway, private?"
Dakini
13-08-2004, 20:54
Ozzy was banned from playing in San Antonio, not from the whole state, and the ban was only for 10 years. The ban has been lifted.

oh. ok then.


well, then, he was banned from part of texas for peeing on the alamo.

i got the last part right at least, right?

oh, and i also know that sex toys are illegal in texas.
Demonic Furbies
13-08-2004, 20:57
ok,first of all, how would you know that. and second, no they're not.
Free Soviets
13-08-2004, 20:57
oh, and i also know that sex toys are illegal in texas.

was it mere posession or 'with intent to sell'? and was that case laughed out of court or not?
Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 20:59
Didn't texas try to ban homosexuality?

A great number of states had anti-sodomy laws until they were all repealed by the US Supreme Court.
Demonic Furbies
13-08-2004, 21:00
alright, so we're not the most accepting state.
Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 21:01
oh. ok then.


well, then, he was banned from part of texas for peeing on the alamo.

i got the last part right at least, right?

oh, and i also know that sex toys are illegal in texas.

Yes, he was banned for a time, but he took a leak on the Alamo ... sort of a State treasure, ya know? Not a very nice thing for him to do.

Sex toys are most certainly not illegal in Texas.
Free Soviets
13-08-2004, 21:14
Sex toys are most certainly not illegal in Texas.

selling them makes you guilty of 'criminal obscenity'. so does possessing 6 of them.
http://www.depts.ttu.edu/itts/documentation/laws/lpctexts/state2.html

to be fair, the entire south is just fuct up about this - the 11th circut court recently upheld an alabama law that makes selling sex toys a crime punishable by 1 year in prison.
Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 21:23
selling them makes you guilty of 'criminal obscenity'. so does possessing 6 of them.
http://www.depts.ttu.edu/itts/documentation/laws/lpctexts/state2.html


And yet ... there is a huge amount of adult shops in Texas - all of which are in possession of 6+ sex toys - that are massive neon-lit places and none of them ever get shut down ...

Plenty of old laws on the books that will never be enforced.
Unfree People
13-08-2004, 21:31
in texas' defense, they also want to pump water from my great lakes out to the deserts of arizona. thought of the day - if you live somewhere where you have to divert water from elsewhere, perhaps you should think about moving somewhere fit for human habitation.
The thing is, it's beautiful land, and since no one much wants to live here, it's relatively empty. (New Mexico, not Texas.)

The deal with stealing water is because when there's a bad drought, we dam up the Rio Grande a bit to water our fields and keep people alive, and then Texas and its big money comes in and sues us for not letting enough water through to West Texas. Being a poor state, we instead go on water rationing and dehydrate. Asshats...
Imperial Ecclesiarchy
13-08-2004, 21:32
You know, I can spend all day trash talking every state of the union, and every nation on Earth, as many of you are doing. I cannot help that a large percentage of Texans are 'strange'. But stop a second. Think about all of the bad things I can say about you and your home, as many of you are doing to MY adopted home. So watch this.

"California is the illegitimate state. Nuts and fruits down in H-Ashbury. You know, many people would honestly not care if the San Andreas fault cracked, and all of you gay socialists go live where there is no sunlight, forever."

You see? I might mean it, I might not. I will not continue on this RANT, this TIRADE, this FLAME, this EVIL. The moral of the story, children? Keep your dirty mouths shut until you have something constructive to say.

Good day to you.
Unfree People
13-08-2004, 21:44
You see? I might mean it, I might not. I will not continue on this RANT, this TIRADE, this FLAME, this EVIL. The moral of the story, children? Keep your dirty mouths shut until you have something constructive to say.
I'm not insulting you personally for living in Texas. I'm disparaging Texas' policies towards its neighbor state. Grow a thicker skin.
Imperial Ecclesiarchy
13-08-2004, 21:50
Unfree Peoples, I apologize for not directing my dissatisfaction more adeptly. I agree with the stupidity of Texas' position on water rights with New Mexico. It is greedy. What I do not like are the closed-minded children who use "steers and queers" just as my example of "fruits and nuts". It is inappropriate. Good day.
Dakini
13-08-2004, 21:53
Sex toys are most certainly not illegal in Texas.

some lady was arrested for havig a sex toy party at her house.
Unfree People
13-08-2004, 21:53
Hehheh, no worries. Just thought your reaction was a bit strong for a silly thread like this. We had a thread about NM once in here wherein most people agreed the state was too full of Mexicans....
Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 21:56
some lady was arrested for havig a sex toy party at her house.

Got a source on that somewhere?

I mean .... let me repeat myself: There are massive Adult/Porn mega-superstores all over the State of Texas. Just how in the hell can sex toys be illegal if those places are allowed to be in business?!?!
Imperial Ecclesiarchy
13-08-2004, 21:59
I live in a suburb of Dallas. Those stores are blatant about their existance. The radio is filled with such ads that I cannot listen at night with anyone young around.

As for their legality, I think it goes on by county or city. There are no such stores in Frisco, but they are everywhere in Dallas itself.
Free Soviets
13-08-2004, 22:00
And yet ... there is a huge amount of adult shops in Texas - all of which are in possession of 6+ sex toys - that are massive neon-lit places and none of them ever get shut down ...

Plenty of old laws on the books that will never be enforced.

no, these aren't old unenforced laws. those places don't sell sex toys - if you go ask them they deal exclusively in 'novelty massagers' or some such. same way bong shops sell 'tobabcco water pipes'.
Sumamba Buwhan
13-08-2004, 22:04
Source for woman arrested for sellign sex toys.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/02/11/obscenity.trial.reut/

(edit: read previous post wrong)
Free Soviets
13-08-2004, 22:04
Got a source on that somewhere?

almost certainly refering to this story (http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/02/11/obscenity.trial.reut/).
Sumamba Buwhan
13-08-2004, 22:09
yeah basically she got in trouble for explaining to the undercover officers (posing as acouple) on how to use them when they pressed her for information. if I remember it right. Thats what she gets for trying to help peolpe. Isn't that entrapment or something?
Imperial Ecclesiarchy
13-08-2004, 22:13
As much as I think the things are sick, it is a stupid law. That's what happens with the state with the Prestonwood Mall...I mean Church. Very silly.
Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 22:16
no, these aren't old unenforced laws. those places don't sell sex toys - if you go ask them they deal exclusively in 'novelty massagers' or some such. same way bong shops sell 'tobabcco water pipes'.

Ever been in those places in Texas? All the packaging seems to say "Monster Kong Dildo!" and "Ribbed Anal Love Beads" and "Realistic Vibrating Pussy" ....

Just to make sure I wasn't insane, I called two places ...

Call #1: Trooper Michael Kilnsman of the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS). I asked if sex toys were illegal in the State of Texas or if there was a limit on the number of sex toys an individual could own. He said, "Ummmm ... no, not at all ... but thanks for the oddest question I've had today."

Call #2: A prominant adult sex shop in my area (manager asked that I not name the store on the internet because he didn't want to be bothered with annoying phone calls). I asked the same questions. He said, "No, of course, not. How could I be in business if such things were illegal?" I then asked about dildos and limits and he said, "You can buy everything in my stock if you like and cart it home in a U-Haul. There is no limit on the amount you can buy and I don't have to use goofy names like they use in head shops."

So .... sorry kids ... but with the repeal of all sodomy laws by the US Supreme Court came freedom of owning 100 14" Kong Dongs.
Kerubia
13-08-2004, 22:22
So .... sorry kids ... but with the repeal of all sodomy laws by the US Supreme Court came freedom of owning 100 14" Kong Dongs.

Thanks, some of us were eating you know.
Sumamba Buwhan
13-08-2004, 22:26
They can SELL them but they canst say what they are used for. THey are basically sold as novelties.
Free Soviets
13-08-2004, 23:37
Call #1: Trooper Michael Kilnsman of the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS). I asked if sex toys were illegal in the State of Texas or if there was a limit on the number of sex toys an individual could own. He said, "Ummmm ... no, not at all ... but thanks for the oddest question I've had today."

So .... sorry kids ... but with the repeal of all sodomy laws by the US Supreme Court came freedom of owning 100 14" Kong Dongs.

it isn't unusual for cops to not know a damn thing about the law. here it is off the state of texas' website - http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.009.00.000043.00.htm

Definitions
...
(5) "Promote" means to manufacture, issue, sell, give,
provide, lend, mail, deliver, transfer, transmit, publish,
distribute, circulate, disseminate, present, exhibit, or
advertise, or to offer or agree to do the same.
(6) "Wholesale promote" means to manufacture, issue,
sell, provide, mail, deliver, transfer, transmit, publish,
distribute, circulate, disseminate, or to offer or agree to do the
same for purpose of resale.
(7) "Obscene device" means a device including a dildo
or artificial vagina, designed or marketed as useful primarily for
the stimulation of human genital organs.

...

ยง 43.23. OBSCENITY. (a) A person commits an offense
if, knowing its content and character, he wholesale promotes or
possesses with intent to wholesale promote any obscene material or
obscene device.
(b) Except as provided by Subsection (h), an offense under
Subsection (a) is a state jail felony.
(c) A person commits an offense if, knowing its content and
character, he:
(1) promotes or possesses with intent to promote any
obscene material or obscene device; or
(2) produces, presents, or directs an obscene
performance or participates in a portion thereof that is obscene or
that contributes to its obscenity.
(d) Except as provided by Subsection (h), an offense under
Subsection (c) is a Class A misdemeanor.
(e) A person who promotes or wholesale promotes obscene
material or an obscene device or possesses the same with intent to
promote or wholesale promote it in the course of his business is
presumed to do so with knowledge of its content and character.
(f) A person who possesses six or more obscene devices or
identical or similar obscene articles is presumed to possess them
with intent to promote the same.
...


and as i said earlier, according to the 11th circuit court sex toy laws still stand.
_Susa_
13-08-2004, 23:37
YEah Texas!
Avia
14-08-2004, 03:23
YAY!

i keep misreading the topic as this as well.

and i'm a texan.. well.. there is one city worth living in in texas.. luckily, i live in it.

hoorah!

its glorious here!
Nimzonia
14-08-2004, 03:25
Everythings bigger in Texas! Including the people.

Houston should be renamed 'Fat Bastardville'
Orders of Crusaders
14-08-2004, 03:31
of course Yay, without Texas we'd have less of those good Western movies, and more of those lame ones about a gold rush in california...
Kihameria
14-08-2004, 03:48
I am a Texan, and proud of it. I cant see how anyone cant like Texas. I could probably go on and on about Texas, but it would probably get into a flamewar.
East Coast Federation
14-08-2004, 03:52
Been to texas, Don't like it.
It's to hot and mostly republican.
To many people talking about god.

At least the city of pittsburgh normally goes liberal.
Nimzonia
14-08-2004, 04:10
of course Yay, without Texas we'd have less of those good Western movies, and more of those lame ones about a gold rush in california...

There are good western movies? Personally, I can't stand the genre.
Free Soviets
14-08-2004, 04:23
There are good western movies? Personally, I can't stand the genre.

westerns rule as long as there are space ships involved.
East Coast Federation
14-08-2004, 04:24
And Aliens.
Laskin Yahoos
14-08-2004, 08:53
When will you Texans stop bragging that you're the biggest state in the Union? That hasn't been true for decades. Oh yeah, and if you get mad and slice my state in half because you're 'Texas Tuff,' then you'll only be the third largest state.

Don't Mess With Alaska!
Free Soviets
14-08-2004, 09:18
Don't Mess With Alaska!

hahaha

somebody i know mentioned that they saw a shirt that read "texas - it's bigger than france". to which i decided that i need to make a shirt that says "kazakhstan - it's 4 times bigger than texas"
Vonners
14-08-2004, 09:56
I thought this was about taxes! DOH!
The Sword and Sheild
14-08-2004, 10:03
hahaha

somebody i know mentioned that they saw a shirt that read "texas - it's bigger than france". to which i decided that i need to make a shirt that says "kazakhstan - it's 4 times bigger than texas"

Reminds me of a shirt I got in Delaware. "Delaware..... we're bigger than Rhode Island"
Mr Basil Fawlty
14-08-2004, 12:47
of course Yay, without Texas we'd have less of those good Western movies, and more of those lame ones about a gold rush in california...


that were filmed in...Italy and Spain (the "spahetti" westerns with Clint from Sergio Leone).


Voted nay, to hell with them
Imperial Ecclesiarchy
14-08-2004, 15:57
Texas is by no means a 'republican state'. The governor directly before Bush was a democrat, Kay Bailey Hutchinson. It just so happens that there have been a series of EXTREMELY CLOSE losses for the democrats recently. But we also have Ross Perot. Hmm.
Kraknokistan
14-08-2004, 16:18
Texas used to be a Democratic state...But those good ol' days are long gone. Luckily I live in the only city in Texas where everone is either a Democrat or a Green. :D
The Sword and Sheild
14-08-2004, 19:12
Texas used to be a Democratic state...But those good ol' days are long gone. Luckily I live in the only city in Texas where everone is either a Democrat or a Green. :D

Corpus Christi? I hear there are a lot of democrats and greens there compared to the rest of the state.
Kraknokistan
14-08-2004, 20:17
Austin.
Free Soviets
14-08-2004, 20:37
Texas used to be a Democratic state...But those good ol' days are long gone. Luckily I live in the only city in Texas where everone is either a Democrat or a Green. :D

everywhere used to go solidly democratic. back when they were social democrats of a vaguely european flavor. but then the republicans broke up the coalition by appealing to southern racists and other 'cultural conservatives'. thank you mr. nixon.