NationStates Jolt Archive


The word "uber"

Southern Industrial
13-08-2004, 06:45
People have started using the word "uber" more and more. This greatly upsets me, in part becuase I have doubts of whether its proper German, but also, THAT'S MY WORD!!!!!

I started using it wwwaayyy before anybody else.
Insane Troll
13-08-2004, 06:46
People have started using the word "uber" more and more. This greatly upsets me, in part becuase I have doubts of whether its proper German, but also, THAT'S MY WORD!!!!!

I started using it wwwaayyy before anybody else.

Man, I've been saying uber since before you were born.
Dalekia
13-08-2004, 06:47
People have started using the word "uber" more and more. This greatly upsets me, in part becuase I have doubts of whether its proper German, but also, THAT'S MY WORD!!!!!

I started using it wwwaayyy before anybody else.

Why are you telling us this NOW, instead of the copyright authorities years ago?
Lunatic Goofballs
13-08-2004, 06:47
I once wrote a poem in 5th grade about a giant potato I called 'The Uber Tuber.'
Southern Industrial
13-08-2004, 06:49
Man, I've been saying uber since before you were born.
How do you know when I was born?
Avia
13-08-2004, 06:51
I've been saying Uber since 6th grade.

and there is no way that it could be "your" word.
germans have been saying it for evvvver... ahem... *taps foot and takes a bit of pride in her lineage*
Lunatic Goofballs
13-08-2004, 06:51
How do you know when I was born?

I posted photos on the internet. I'm very proud of the video of your conception. :D
Southern Industrial
13-08-2004, 06:53
I posted photos on the internet. I'm very proud of the video of your conception. :D

"Yo Momma"... Updated for the 21st century.
Insane Troll
13-08-2004, 06:55
I posted photos on the internet. I'm very proud of the video of your conception. :D

Very high quality indeed.
Lunatic Goofballs
13-08-2004, 06:59
"Yo Momma"... Updated for the 21st century.


;)
Draechon
13-08-2004, 06:59
Hey, guess what? I hate it when people use that. It's a prefix in German that's "über," not "uber." Notice the umlauts (I don't know if that's right, but the sideways colon on top), which make it a hard e, "ee" sound, not "oo." It means over, above, or greater than, but if you're going to use it, spell it or write it correctly, PLEASE.
Homocracy
13-08-2004, 07:00
This greatly upsets me, in part becuase I have doubts of whether its proper German,

Uber, in the sense of great or greatest, above everything else, isn't what the normal German use of it is(BTW it's supposed to have an umlaut, two dots above the U). The word means above in a spatial sense(And takes the accusative, but if you cared you'd probably know that), but Nietzsche used it in the compound Uebermenschen(Above Men) which he said were men born with superior qualities and driven to succeed. This is the root of it's usage in net speak.
Lunatic Goofballs
13-08-2004, 07:01
Hey, guess what? I hate it when people use that. It's a prefix in German that's "über," not "uber." Notice the umlauts (I don't know if that's right, but the sideways colon on top), which make it a hard e, "ee" sound, not "oo." It means over, above, or greater than, but if you're going to use it, spell it or write it correctly, PLEASE.

But... It's Tres Chic. :D
Southern Industrial
13-08-2004, 07:01
Hey, guess what? I hate it when people use that. It's a prefix in German that's "über," not "uber." Notice the umlauts (I don't know if that's right, but the sideways colon on top), which make it a hard e, "ee" sound, not "oo." It means over, above, or greater than, but if you're going to use it, spell it or write it correctly, PLEASE.

I didn't feel like going through the trouble of opening up the character map and all that. Is it really that important?
Opal Isle
13-08-2004, 07:02
Uber, in the sense of great or greatest, above everything else, isn't what the normal German use of it is(BTW it's supposed to have an umlaut, two dots above the U). The word means above in a spatial sense(And takes the accusative, but if you cared you'd probably know that), but Nietzsche used it in the compound Uebermenschen(Above Men) which he said were men born with superior qualities and driven to succeed. This is the root of it's usage in net speak.
Actually, to be specific, it means "Over Men," not "Above Men" and it'd look more like "Overmen" Besides, it is spelled ubermensch...also, untermensch means "Undermen"
Southern Industrial
13-08-2004, 07:05
Actually, to be specific, it means "Over Men," not "Above Men" and it'd look more like "Overmen" Besides, it is spelled ubermensch...also, untermensch means "Undermen"

So, for example, (and I know I'm refearing to a terrible national history) the Nazis would have refeared to the Jews as "untermensch"?

Anyways, this has been more than I ever expected to learn about german...
Opal Isle
13-08-2004, 07:06
So, for example, (and I know I'm refearing to a terrible national history) the Nazis would have refeared to the Jews as "untermensch"?

Anyways, this has been more than I ever expected to learn about german...
No. They referred to the Slavs as untermensch. They didn't recognize the Jews as human at all.
Jack-a-nape
13-08-2004, 07:10
Man, I've been saying uber since before you were born.

I invented the word, dammit. So there. Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, and so forth.
Opal Isle
13-08-2004, 07:11
I invented the word, dammit. So there. Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, and so forth.
whoa...jeeziz yer old.
Homocracy
13-08-2004, 07:15
Actually, to be specific, it means "Over Men," not "Above Men" and it'd look more like "Overmen" Besides, it is spelled ubermensch...also, untermensch means "Undermen"

Actually, to spell it in the German way, you have to spell it with an umlaut above the U or with a E after the U. So it's spelt Übermensch or Uebermensch, but Ubermensch is incorrect.

Uber means over and/or above, and I understand both terms as the same in this context, so I see no reason to split that hair. Also, Mensch means person, not man. Der Mann, die Frau, das Mensch.
Insane Troll
13-08-2004, 07:16
Deutschland über alles.
Southern Industrial
13-08-2004, 07:16
whoa...jeeziz yer old.

Yeah, History give Attila such a bad name-- but the truth is that modern Europeans are just pussys to the Romans...
Opal Isle
13-08-2004, 07:18
Actually, to spell it in the German way, you have to spell it with an umlaut above the U or with a E after the U. So it's spelt Übermensch or Uebermensch, but Ubermensch is incorrect.

Uber means over and/or above, and I understand both terms as the same in this context, so I see no reason to split that hair. Also, Mensch means person, not man. Der Mann, die Frau, das Mensch.
I don't feel like figuring out how to put the dots over the U and the e looks gay. You know what I'm talking about and I was correcting the "mensch" part of the word anyway. No reason to split that hair, etc.

Mensch means "men" as in "That's one small step for man." Not specifically a male human, but man in the more collective human race type term, not person in the individual sense...but I guess, also, no reason to split the hair...
EDIT: Err...I don't speak German...so it may be used different in the German language today, however, that's how it was used when Nietzsche was writing--and we're talking about Nietzsche...so...yea...
Sharina
13-08-2004, 07:19
Want to talk about annoying words or language?

I nominate Leet / L33t speak to be the worst and lamest language ever concieved. It's annoying as hell. Trust me.
Southern Industrial
13-08-2004, 07:22
To get any character, you have to (on a wintel) go to Start>Programs>Acc>Charater Map

Take a look. Its kind of a drag (I haven't bothered), but it works.
Opal Isle
13-08-2004, 07:23
To get any character, you have to (on a wintel) go to Start>Programs>Acc>Charater Map

Take a look. Its kind of a drag (I haven't bothered), but it works.
Is there a point? If I type Uber, do you know what I'm talking about? I think yes. Thanks.
Oscarina
13-08-2004, 07:26
Sorry, Opal Isle, but I think Homocracy speaks more Deutsh than you - 'Uebermensch' would be the singular, 'Uebermenschen' the plural:

Das Uebermensch;

Die Uebermenschen.
Southern Industrial
13-08-2004, 07:28
Is there a point? If I type Uber, do you know what I'm talking about? I think yes. Thanks.

I agree with you.
Opal Isle
13-08-2004, 07:28
hrm

okay, I just posted that I don't speak the language. that's enough spammish attempts at adding up your post count for the night. thanks anyway.
Amyst
13-08-2004, 07:30
Want to talk about annoying words or language?

I nominate Leet / L33t speak to be the worst and lamest language ever concieved. It's annoying as hell. Trust me.


It's better than Esperanto.
Free Soviets
13-08-2004, 07:33
Actually, to be specific, it means "Over Men," not "Above Men" and it'd look more like "Overmen" Besides, it is spelled ubermensch...also, untermensch means "Undermen"

of course, it all comes from the proto-indo-european word 'uper', which is where we get both the words 'super' and 'over', which mean essentially the same thing as 'uber'. though 'super' comes from the latin influence on english and 'over' comes from the germanic.

kind of interesting that we are still making essentially the same sound as our distant ancestors did to mean 'over'.
Dalekia
13-08-2004, 07:36
Is there a point? If I type Uber, do you know what I'm talking about? I think yes. Thanks.
is it ok if i writ lik ths. nd it savs tim.
Gigatron
13-08-2004, 08:23
Small hint. Mensch is a male noun. Thus it is "der Mensch", "der Übermensch", "die Menschen", "die Übermenschen". "Uber" is the "americanized" version of the German "über", since "ü" is not existant in the american alphabet and for ease of typing in internet speech, the umlaut has been replaced with the normal "u".

You may use the word as you like, but you cannot take German words and say they are the property of anyone. If anyone owns this word then its Germany and her people. Without its original German meaning, the americanized version would be meaningless.
Opal Isle
14-08-2004, 06:12
Can you start capitalizing "America" and all forms of that word, please?
Erinin
14-08-2004, 06:14
Man, I've been saying uber since before you were born.
I am 30 years old.
I have been using Uber, for a while.
So I agree with the InsaneTroll, since before you were born.
Opal Isle
14-08-2004, 06:16
That's impressive. I've been using "wewt" (and the 6 thousand other forms of that word) since before I was born.
Keruvalia
14-08-2004, 07:33
To get any character, you have to (on a wintel) go to Start>Programs>Acc>Charater Map

Take a look. Its kind of a drag (I haven't bothered), but it works.

Actually, you can use ALT codes ...

Hold ALT and, on the num pad (numlock on) type the ANSI code, then release the ALT key.

ALT 154 = Ü

See?
Opal Isle
14-08-2004, 08:11
I'm on a laptop.
Gigatron
14-08-2004, 08:26
Can you start capitalizing "America" and all forms of that word, please?
No. In my opinion the U$ are not worthy of being mentioned in capital letters. I'll continue using the small version "american" and "america". If it was possible, I'd actually write it "depreciated".
Keruvalia
14-08-2004, 08:27
I'm on a laptop.

Well then get a real computer. :p
Sharina
14-08-2004, 16:26
No. In my opinion the U$ are not worthy of being mentioned in capital letters. I'll continue using the small version "american" and "america". If it was possible, I'd actually write it "depreciated".

How would you feel if people started using lower case Germany, German, and Germans?
_Susa_
14-08-2004, 16:27
People have started using the word "uber" more and more. This greatly upsets me, in part becuase I have doubts of whether its proper German, but also, THAT'S MY WORD!!!!!

I started using it wwwaayyy before anybody else.
OK. I guess you pwn that word then.
_Susa_
14-08-2004, 16:28
Small hint. Mensch is a male noun. Thus it is "der Mensch", "der Übermensch", "die Menschen", "die Übermenschen". "Uber" is the "americanized" version of the German "über", since "ü" is not existant in the american alphabet and for ease of typing in internet speech, the umlaut has been replaced with the normal "u".

You may use the word as you like, but you cannot take German words and say they are the property of anyone. If anyone owns this word then its Germany and her people. Without its original German meaning, the americanized version would be meaningless.
Its called the English alphabet.
Misfitasia
14-08-2004, 17:18
Die Uebermenschen.

Why? What did those poor uebermenschen ever do to you that you want them dead? :p
CSW
14-08-2004, 17:48
or

& #220;

remove the space

Über.
Von Witzleben
14-08-2004, 17:56
Sorry, Opal Isle, but I think Homocracy speaks more Deutsch than you - 'Uebermensch' would be the singular, 'Uebermenschen' the plural:

Der Uebermensch;

Die Uebermenschen.
.
Von Witzleben
14-08-2004, 17:57
Actually, to spell it in the German way, you have to spell it with an umlaut above the U or with a E after the U. So it's spelt Übermensch or Uebermensch, but Ubermensch is incorrect.

Uber means over and/or above, and I understand both terms as the same in this context, so I see no reason to split that hair. Also, Mensch means person, not man. Der Mann, die Frau, der Mensch.
.
Mount Isist
14-08-2004, 21:20
I don't use "uber" much, I use "Uchre", I have been use that term for 10 years. It means basically the same thing as uber
Sjusoveri
14-08-2004, 21:31
What bothers me is not how english-speakers spell "über" but how they pronounce it. And what's wrong with "super" for god's sake? :( :rolleyes:
Mount Isist
14-08-2004, 21:40
What bothers me is not how english-speakers spell "über" but how they pronounce it. And what's wrong with "super" for god's sake? :( :rolleyes:
To some, super has been over used. I still use it to mean things less intense than I would with Uchre.
Sjusoveri
14-08-2004, 21:44
To some, super has been over used. I still use it to mean things less intense than I would with Uchre.

What's this word uchre? I've never heard of it and I can't find it in any lexicon either...
Free Soviets
14-08-2004, 22:24
What bothers me is not how english-speakers spell "über" but how they pronounce it. And what's wrong with "super" for god's sake? :( :rolleyes:

blame the popularity of nietzsche
Bodies Without Organs
14-08-2004, 22:38
Mensch means "men" as in "That's one small step for man."

However, even to this very day Neil Armstrong claims that he said "That's one small step for a man", but that a burst of static obscured the indefinite article.

Personally I don't believe he did say "a man", but I believe he intended to say it and just fluffed his prepared speech. Otherwise the sentence makes no sense, especially the way you claim to construe it, as "That's one small leap for man(kind), one giant leap for mankind".

The sentence only really works properly if he contrasts the specific small step taken by a man (singular individual) with the great leap forward taken by the human race.

The 'man' in Armstrong's speech shouldn't be rendered as 'Mensch' or as 'Menschheit' but instead as '(ein) Mann'.

Here endeth the lesson.
Sjusoveri
14-08-2004, 22:49
blame the popularity of nietzsche

Nietzsche is so over-rated.

If that wasn't off-topic so say...
Bodies Without Organs
15-08-2004, 03:31
Nietzsche is so over-rated.

If that wasn't off-topic so say...


Off-topic? Pah. I say full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes.


Care to elucidate on your slam of Nietzsche there?
Bodies Without Organs
15-08-2004, 03:33
Nietzsche is so over-rated.

If that wasn't off-topic so say...


Off-topic? Pah. I say full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes.


Care to elucidate on your slam of Nietzsche there? I would spring to his defence, but first I want to make sure you aren't saying something like "Nietzsche is over-rated compared to oxygen and water and food" (to which I would have to grudgingly agree). I assume your line of comparison involves other philosophers rather than just random objects...
Mr Basil Fawlty
15-08-2004, 03:33
uber die bergen :cool: