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A child's question ...

Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 01:40
So, my 6 year old daughter just got back from "meet the teacher" night and the first question out of her mouth was (looking at my arm against hers) ...

"Daddy, how come you're so much more brown than I am?"

I gave my answer, but I am curious to see how others here would answer.

No right or wrong, just a curiosity. I'm not giving my answer on purpose.
Opal Isle
13-08-2004, 01:47
The situation wouldn't happen to me. However, I might get the opposite question: "Daddy, how come I'm more brown than you?"

I don't know how I would respond. I'm only 18 and am not ready to give Daddy-esque answers to children.
BastardSword
13-08-2004, 01:59
So, my 6 year old daughter just got back from "meet the teacher" night and the first question out of her mouth was (looking at my arm against hers) ...

"Daddy, how come you're so much more brown than I am?"

I gave my answer, but I am curious to see how others here would answer.

No right or wrong, just a curiosity. I'm not giving my answer on purpose.
well, are you with a white woman and you are black?
If so then that is a different answer than reverse.
"Well you mommy is (what color) and I am (your color) and you are less than me and more like your mommy."
That is just one suggestion.

If this a jerry springer moment where you are black and wife is black but daughter white then your wife cheated.
Hmm, I guess say "sometimes people look different so we can tell them apart"
Von Witzleben
13-08-2004, 02:01
"Daddy, how come you're so much more brown than I am?"

Tanning studio.
Colodia
13-08-2004, 02:02
We should make a parody out of this

"Daddy, why you are more browner than me?"

Republican Answer: Because God made it that way

Socialist Answer: Hey....why AM I more browner than you? How can we split up the brown....?

Jerry Springer Answer: Because the DNA results are in and I'm not really your Daddy


etc etc
Von Witzleben
13-08-2004, 02:03
Jerry Springer
I realy hate that guy.
Opal Isle
13-08-2004, 02:04
We should make a parody out of this

"Daddy, why you are more browner than me?"

Republican Answer: Because God made it that way

Socialist Answer: Hey....why AM I more browner than you? How can we split up the brown....?

Jerry Springer Answer: Because the DNA results are in and I'm not really your Daddy


etc etc

Australian Answer: W T F mate?

(see the end of the world video?)
Colodia
13-08-2004, 02:05
Australian Answer: W T F mate?

(see the end of the world video?)

I GAVE you the link
Sparltopia
13-08-2004, 02:11
As I like to think in the scientific sense, I'd probably be tempted to try to explain genes and alleles and the like to her, but nah.

Given your situation, really, I guess I would say that since she was both my and her mother's child, she was a mix of the two of us. Some things she got from her mother, others from me, and some blended together.

Tough question to answer on the spot though.
Avia
13-08-2004, 02:14
well... is she a different color because of race or because of tan stuff? i'm a bit confused there.
Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 02:16
Just to let folks know ... I am Native American and my wife is Italian ...

That's not the point, though.

Every human being on the planet are differnt shades of "brown" ... nobody is "white" and nobody is "black" ....

My question is to how you'd answer this question.

If you need my response before you answer, ok .... here it is:

"Because the world is full of color."

Now ... what would you have answered?
Sapphie
13-08-2004, 02:17
"So, my 6 year old daughter just got back from "meet the teacher" night and the first question out of her mouth was (looking at my arm against hers) ...

"Daddy, how come you're so much more brown than I am?"

I gave my answer, but I am curious to see how others here would answer.

No right or wrong, just a curiosity. I'm not giving my answer on purpose."



I HAVE TOLD MY CHILD THAT SHE NEEDS TO BE PROUD OF THE DIFFERENCE. WHAT A BORING WORLD IT WOULD BE IF WE WERE ALL THE SAME. YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL ANYONE APART. EVERYONE WOULD BE CALLED BOB. AS IN, "HI BOB" "HEY BOB", MEET MY WIFE BOB, BOB" "NICE TO MEET YOU BOB, THIS IS MY WIFE BOB AND OUR TWO CHILDREN BOB AND BOB".
"OH WAIT! ARE THOSE YOUR BOB'S OR MINE?" "HEY BOB, I THINK I'VE LOST MY BOBS"....THAT WAS THE END OF THAT AND CAUSED A GOOD FEW GIGGLES.
LOVE MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND.....
Von Witzleben
13-08-2004, 02:18
I HAVE TOLD MY CHILD THAT SHE NEEDS TO BE PROUD OF THE DIFFERENCE. WHAT A BORING WORLD IT WOULD BE IF WE WERE ALL THE SAME. YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL ANYONE APART. EVERYONE WOULD BE CALLED BOB. AS IN, "HI BOB" "HEY BOB", MEET MY WIFE BOB, BOB" "NICE TO MEET YOU BOB, THIS IS MY WIFE BOB AND OUR TWO CHILDREN BOB AND BOB".
"OH WAIT! ARE THOSE YOUR BOB'S OR MINE?" "HEY BOB, I THINK I'VE LOST MY BOBS"....THAT WAS THE END OF THAT AND CAUSED A GOOD FEW GIGGLES.
LOVE MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND.....
Turn off the caps.
BastardSword
13-08-2004, 02:18
Well that is simpler, tell her about your ancestrery.
How you come from the Native American people and hers of Italians.
Native American people are "browner" than those from Italy and so you are a mixture of us and got more of your mother in you too. THus you are lwess "brown" than me.
Avia
13-08-2004, 02:20
ahh now i understand.

well, does she know about how babies are made and stuff? and how everyone looks a little like their mom and a little like their dad?
i would have said "my skin is this color and your mom has that color skin... and when they got all mixed together, the color you are was made.. everyone is like that."

or something like that.
Isist
13-08-2004, 02:22
So, my 6 year old daughter just got back from "meet the teacher" night and the first question out of her mouth was (looking at my arm against hers) ...

"Daddy, how come you're so much more brown than I am?"

I gave my answer, but I am curious to see how others here would answer.

No right or wrong, just a curiosity. I'm not giving my answer on purpose.

It's all depending on your and your wife's relationship or situation.

1. Racial differences answer- Sweety, you know how milk is white and chocolate is dark brown but together they make a lighter brown? Well that is like you!

2. Tanning- I work outside all day and the sunlight will make your skin brown.

3. General- Everyone looks different from each other, some are a little lighter than others but we are all still people.
Sapphie
13-08-2004, 02:27
Oh christ. There's always the one twat who stands out from the crowd. You have your say and instead of reading it and allowing your opinion or debating it, they do something so petty you wonder why their parents bothered raising them....they criticize your spelling, handwriting, CAPS anything but your opinion.....love makes the world go round........
Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 02:28
Well that is simpler, tell her about your ancestrery.
How you come from the Native American people and hers of Italians.
Native American people are "browner" than those from Italy and so you are a mixture of us and got more of your mother in you too. THus you are lwess "brown" than me.

Heh ... good luck explaining that to a 6 year old child.

She doesn't understand "America" and "Italy"!

Mostly I was just curious.

Yeah, the reason I had this curiosity was because of the way the forum has been going lately ... "My culture is better than yours because ... " ... and because I am curious to see if anyone who is "ethnocentric" can answer this question ....

I am brown ... my wife is brown (though not as brown) ... we make a baby ... what happens when the baby is curious about the brown?
Von Witzleben
13-08-2004, 02:29
Oh christ. There's always the one twat who stands out from the crowd.
No need for namecalling.
Sapphie
13-08-2004, 02:38
No need for namecalling.

he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he
Glad to see you're paying attention. CAPS alright for you?
PS. Jerry Springer ROCKS!!!!! It's the loser's on his show that make us all feel a little better about our morbid, pointless, shallow little lives.....
Just for that half hour, we seem so normal/functional. Our children are perfect, our relationships - idyllic, our finances optimum. Ever noticed how many ugly (inside and out) people go on the show....makes us feel like supermodels hey???

Deep down we all love voyeurism (sic) it's like the beer bottle goggles of a barfly. Except we turn them on ourselves.

Have a fantastic weekend. Gotta go and deal with a snot nose.....
Von Witzleben
13-08-2004, 02:44
Deep down we all love voyeurism (sic) it's like the beer bottle goggles of a barfly.
Depends on the kind of voyeurism. I'd love to see the girl nextdoor in the shower. But something like Springer and his adultering, crossdressing, partners who switch partners cause the new partner has a bigger trailer guests I can do without.
ModAlert
13-08-2004, 02:47
Just to let folks know ... I am Native American and my wife is Italian ...

Out of curiousity, are you from upstate New YorK? (I hope you won't be offended -- it's just the first place that comes to mind where I know there is a large Italian and a large Native American population.)
Spoffin
13-08-2004, 02:53
I'd love to see the girl nextdoor in the shower.
I'm sure Jerry Springer would run a (rather tame) show for PERVERTS like you!!flame disclaimer: this is a joke
Von Witzleben
13-08-2004, 02:56
I'm sure Jerry Springer would run a (rather tame) show for PERVERTS like you!!flame disclaimer: this is a joke
You haven't seen her. ;)
Sapphie
13-08-2004, 02:56
Depends on the kind of voyeurism. I'd love to see the girl nextdoor in the shower. But something like Springer and his adultering, crossdressing, partners who switch partners cause the new partner has a bigger trailer guests I can do without.

Fair enough...but doesn't it make you feel like you are a better person???? At least better than they are? I mean, people like us wouldn't be seen dead on Jerry Springer airing all the dirty details and carrying on like trash. So, we get to be all self righteous about it or we get to laugh at all the losers in the world, and take from the experience some small enrichment for our lives.


As for the girl in the shower....there's a law against that isn't there? lol

At the end of the day he's getting rich off of these losers, and filling the demand of his producers. The last people who count are the ones who get dished up this crud during prime time viewing. People like me with a seriously twisted sense of humour who watch sometimes to cure depression......
Sapphie
13-08-2004, 02:59
I'm sure Jerry Springer would run a (rather tame) show for PERVERTS like you!!flame disclaimer: this is a joke


s'not perverted to watch...s'perverted to use a watch......
Von Witzleben
13-08-2004, 02:59
Fair enough...but doesn't it make you feel like you are a better person???? At least better than they are?
Not realy. It just bores me. And Springer, Mr. know it all, pisses me off.

As for the girl in the shower....there's a law against that isn't there? lol

Probably. But I still would like to see her.
Live Dreams
13-08-2004, 03:01
I would probably grab a high school biology textbook and turn to the chapter on genetics. I might even go so far to make her a Punnett (sp?) square.

This would either result in a satisfactorily answered question or a daughter who will know to direct all future questions to her mom. Either way is fine with me.

Springer seems to be a hit or miss situation as far as voyeurism goes. At least 70% of the shows I've watched only have people that I would not want to see uncensored.
Sapphie
13-08-2004, 03:05
Okay.. I get your point. You're pretty well adjusted then.

Hey good luck with the shower girl....
Kernlandia
13-08-2004, 03:05
I would probably grab a high school biology textbook and turn to the chapter on genetics. I might even go so far to make her a Punnett (sp?) square.

This would either result in a satisfactorily answered question or a daughter who will know to direct all future questions to her mom. Either way is fine with me.

Springer seems to be a hit or miss situation as far as voyeurism goes. At least 70% of the shows I've watched only have people that I would not want to see uncensored.

that punnett square would be immense-i don't think pigmentation is the result of one particular gene, unlike the punnett square with the bean leaves and all. if you know what i'm talking about.
Live Dreams
13-08-2004, 03:10
that punnett square would be immense-i don't think pigmentation is the result of one particular gene, unlike the punnett square with the bean leaves and all. if you know what i'm talking about.

I get it. I'm just going off of vague memories from my freshman biology class, which was almost ten years ago.
Sapphie
13-08-2004, 03:14
Springer seems to be a hit or miss situation as far as voyeurism goes. At least 70% of the shows I've watched only have people that I would not want to see uncensored.

And I don't disagree, my point is not that we enjoy watching Springer. We don't love or envy the characters. Quite the opposite. We despise and are annoyed by them. We find them petty, churlish, pathetic creatures and hardly pity them. They are so totally undesirable that they create a sense of satisfaction with our own lifestyles/lives. That is what I'm trying to say...sheesh...so with the bad there is some good........

Oh what is a Punnet Square? (I ask out of sheer ignorance on the subject?)
Kernlandia
13-08-2004, 03:17
And I don't disagree, my point is not that we enjoy watching Springer. We don't love or envy the characters. Quite the opposite. We despise and are annoyed by them. We find them petty, churlish, pathetic creatures and hardly pity them. They are so totally undesirable that they create a sense of satisfaction with our own lifestyles/lives. That is what I'm trying to say...sheesh...so with the bad there is some good........

Oh what is a Punnet Square? (I ask out of sheer ignorance on the subject?)
a punnett square is a square documenting possible combinations of genes based on the parent's genes. they're quite interesting.
Communist Mississippi
13-08-2004, 03:19
Just to let folks know ... I am Native American and my wife is Italian ...

That's not the point, though.

Every human being on the planet are differnt shades of "brown" ... nobody is "white" and nobody is "black" ....

My question is to how you'd answer this question.

If you need my response before you answer, ok .... here it is:

"Because the world is full of color."

Now ... what would you have answered?


I would say because the white genes are typically recessive compared to non-white genes, and that she more likely has had the recessive genes present in you (the father) become dominant after mixing with the genes from her mother that are recessive when mixed with non-white genes.
Kernlandia
13-08-2004, 03:20
I would say because the white genes are typically recessive compared to non-white genes, and that she more likely has had the recessive genes present in you (the father) become dominant after mixing with the genes from her mother that are recessive when mixed with non-white genes.
that is bad, bad science.
Sapphie
13-08-2004, 03:21
Voyeurism is a disorders of sexual arousal. It involves the act of observing unsuspecting individuals, usually strangers, who may be naked or in the process of disrobing. Even engaging in sexual activity. Masturbation usually occurs during, or shortly after, voyeuristic activities. A variation of voyeurism entails listening to erotic conversations; e.g. telephone sex.

UMM...I THINK I MANY HAVE USED THE WRONG WORD..............TOLD YOU I WAS IGNORANT....
Von Witzleben
13-08-2004, 03:22
I would say because the white genes are typically recessive compared to non-white genes, and that she more likely has had the recessive genes present in you (the father) become dominant after mixing with the genes from her mother that are recessive when mixed with non-white genes.
Assuming a 6 year old knows what a gene or recessive is. :rolleyes:
Von Witzleben
13-08-2004, 03:23
Voyeurism is a disorders of sexual arousal.
Where did you get that? The Bible?
Sapphie
13-08-2004, 03:24
a punnett square is a square documenting possible combinations of genes based on the parent's genes. they're quite interesting.

Thanks..were can I find out more?
Sapphie
13-08-2004, 03:26
Where did you get that? The Bible?

The what?
Communist Mississippi
13-08-2004, 03:27
that is bad, bad science.


It's the truth, read Gobineau, Chamberlain, or Stoddard.
Communist Mississippi
13-08-2004, 03:28
Voyeurism is a disorders of sexual arousal. It involves the act of observing unsuspecting individuals, usually strangers, who may be naked or in the process of disrobing. Even engaging in sexual activity. Masturbation usually occurs during, or shortly after, voyeuristic activities. A variation of voyeurism entails listening to erotic conversations; e.g. telephone sex.

UMM...I THINK I MANY HAVE USED THE WRONG WORD..............TOLD YOU I WAS IGNORANT....

American Heritage Dictionary
voy·eur (voi-yûr“) n. 1. A person who derives sexual gratification from observing the naked bodies or sexual acts of others, especially from a secret vantage point.

American Heritage Cultural Dictionary
voyeurism (VOY-uhr-iz-uhm)Anthropology, Psychology, and Sociology: Deriving sexual satisfaction by secretly watching others undress or engage in sexual activity.
Johnistan
13-08-2004, 03:29
"Because you're mommy was knocked up by a black man."

At least, that's what my friend's answer would be.
Anticarnivoria
13-08-2004, 03:31
Just to let folks know ... I am Native American and my wife is Italian ...

That's not the point, though.

Every human being on the planet are differnt shades of "brown" ... nobody is "white" and nobody is "black" ....

My question is to how you'd answer this question.

If you need my response before you answer, ok .... here it is:

"Because the world is full of color."

Now ... what would you have answered?

personally, I think that's a brilliant answer for a girl her age! I probably would've gone into genetics and skin pigmentation...I was a weird kid, I expected my mother to explain particle physics when I asked what something was made of - but if she's not the analytical type, then the answer you gave was really awesome.
Undecidedterritory
13-08-2004, 03:33
for alll the rhetoric and phycho babble I can speak from experience in this matter.........
be honest with the child and make emphasis that it does not matter and should not matter, but that all people are different outside but we are almost all the same inside.
Bedou
13-08-2004, 03:34
So, my 6 year old daughter just got back from "meet the teacher" night and the first question out of her mouth was (looking at my arm against hers) ...

"Daddy, how come you're so much more brown than I am?"

I gave my answer, but I am curious to see how others here would answer.

No right or wrong, just a curiosity. I'm not giving my answer on purpose.
Belief in God being a large part of my life and the life of my family,
I simply say that "God made as many differences between people as He did between flowers, so no matter who we met or where we went we would see a new beauty."
Thats just me though.
Undecidedterritory
13-08-2004, 03:34
Belief in God being a large part of my life and the life of my family,
I simply say that "God made as many differences between people as He did between flowers, so no matter who we met or where we went we would see a new beauty."
Thats just me though.

that is wonderful
Communist Mississippi
13-08-2004, 03:37
This is one of the sad truths of racially mixed children, they will lack a real sense of identiy, not knowing whether they should be loyal to race A or race B. The kids from race A will shun them as they are too race B, and the kids from race B will shun them as they are too race B. They'll exist outside the happy medium most children experience when they decide who they are. Instead existing in constant chaos and inner-turmoil attempting to find an identity.
Bedou
13-08-2004, 03:38
Thanks, I answered then I started reading the thread backwards and felt really ...uneducated with all these people getting scientific and everything.
Communist Mississippi
13-08-2004, 03:39
Belief in God being a large part of my life and the life of my family,
I simply say that "God made as many differences between people as He did between flowers, so no matter who we met or where we went we would see a new beauty."
Thats just me though.


That's just it though. God never made "Mixed races" he made people and it was the people who created mixed races. I always thought if God wanted people to be mixed, we'd have been made so.

I thought God made the different peoples so we could all be unique and different and worship Him in our own specific ways. Not so we could all merge into one indistinguishable mass that He Himself would not even recognize.
BackwoodsSquatches
13-08-2004, 03:46
Just to let folks know ... I am Native American and my wife is Italian ...

That's not the point, though.

Every human being on the planet are differnt shades of "brown" ... nobody is "white" and nobody is "black" ....

My question is to how you'd answer this question.

If you need my response before you answer, ok .... here it is:

"Because the world is full of color."

Now ... what would you have answered?



I would have gotten a cup of coffee and shown it to her, and then put some milk in it, and then shown her that.
Then said something like...

"People are kind of like that too. You are a mix of your mommy and daddy."

and the answer you gave goes nicely along those same lines.
Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 13:37
This is one of the sad truths of racially mixed children, they will lack a real sense of identiy, not knowing whether they should be loyal to race A or race B. The kids from race A will shun them as they are too race B, and the kids from race B will shun them as they are too race B. They'll exist outside the happy medium most children experience when they decide who they are. Instead existing in constant chaos and inner-turmoil attempting to find an identity.

Well, unfortunately for me and my "race", your "race" came along and slaughtered 90% of us ... but, then, I married for love, not for "race".

Or are you saying one of the human race should not have babies with one of the bovine race? In that case, I agree.
Temujinn
13-08-2004, 13:47
This is one of the sad truths of racially mixed children, they will lack a real sense of identiy, not knowing whether they should be loyal to race A or race B. The kids from race A will shun them as they are too race B, and the kids from race B will shun them as they are too race B. They'll exist outside the happy medium most children experience when they decide who they are. Instead existing in constant chaos and inner-turmoil attempting to find an identity.
What!!???
um Yeah ok.
I will bet my bottom dollar you got some diversity in your woodshed.
Hopefully we have none in common or I might be in possesion of the a$$h0le gene as well.

Keruvalia, I am Tsis tsis tas(and Irish).
What are you if I may ask.
Dacowookies
13-08-2004, 13:51
maybe in a 1000 yrs, we will all be mixed and dicsussions like this will be irrelavent, til that day comes, all we can do is be sensible parents and make the kids realise that race doesn't matter and they are as good as the next man, and no-one is "better", after all, we are not born racist, just taught to be by those with few brain cells

:)
Keruvalia
13-08-2004, 13:51
Keruvalia, I am Tsis tsis tas(and Irish).
What are you if I may ask.

I'm Kadohadacho (Caddo)