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Hi all,

I keep hearing America this (generally meaning the USA, and not North America, the continent), Europe that...

...Asia, Oceania, Africa, and South America (yes, the other America), speak up! There are several billion of us, after all. ;)

I can't tell you how many times I have criticised Bush or US foriegn policy online only to have it automatically assumed that I am European...well actually I can - twice :p - but still, I'm sure you get my menaing.

I just want to hear how many other NS members are not from "the big two"...

Let me start - I am from Australia...you know, that country that most Americans know nothing about except Crocodile Dundee, "A dingo stole my baby!", kangaroos, koalas and *shudder* Steve Irwin...

I live in a suburban house, not in the outback. In fact, around 95% or more of Australia's population live in suburban areas. I work in the commercial sector in telecommunications, not shearing sheep or hunting crocodiles. I don't wear an acoubra hat with corks dangling from it, or khaki shorts.

In fact, here's a little tidbit - Max Barry, creator of Jennifer Government and Nation States - is Australian. I'm reasonably sure he doesn't ride to work in the pouch of a kangaroo or wrestle crocs for fun, either :)

...so, who's next?

Don't forget AC/DC...They're austalian too...

And the ever so popular phrase "W T F mate?"

I've always considered Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa as parts of Europe. Don't ask me why, it's just they were in the British Commonwealth, and they were Western Civilization style nations. Well NZ and AU are okay today, but SA is currently a mess. I've also considered large parts of South America as the West, because the West isn't a location, it's a mentality. Western Mentality has been carried wherever Western man has gone and planted his flag.

And the ever so popular phrase "W T F mate?"
but they'll be dead soon....****ing kangaroos

Western Mentality has been carried wherever Western man has gone and planted his flag.

Sweet! That means the moon is ours!!!!

Sweet! That means the moon is ours!!!!


And Mars...Western Civilization has sent at least a Zillion dollar's worth of probes there...and what have we gotten back? A few fuzzy pictures...and a picture's only worth a thousand words...

So if one does the calculations, it comes out to about a billion dollars per word...WOW...

The citizens of western imperialist countries have always been loud and obnoxious. This is why there are so many of us posting in the forums, especially in threads that don't concern us and were specifically directed away from us.

I'm always getting mistaken for a limey or a yank.

The citizens of western imperialist countries have always been loud and obnoxious. This is why there are so many of us posting in the forums, especially in threads that don't concern us and were specifically directed away from us.

LOL

Hi all,

I keep hearing America this (generally meaning the USA, and not North America, the continent), Europe that...

...Asia, Oceania, Africa, and South America (yes, the other America), speak up! There are several billion of us, after all. ;)

I can't tell you how many times I have criticised Bush or US foriegn policy online only to have it automatically assumed that I am European...well actually I can - twice :p - but still, I'm sure you get my menaing.

I just want to hear how many other NS members are not from "the big two"...

Let me start - I am from Australia...you know, that country that most Americans know nothing about except Crocodile Dundee, "A dingo stole my baby!", kangaroos, koalas and *shudder* Steve Irwin...

I live in a suburban house, not in the outback. In fact, around 95% or more of Australia's population live in suburban areas. I work in the commercial sector in telecommunications, not shearing sheep or hunting crocodiles. I don't wear an acoubra hat with corks dangling from it, or khaki shorts.

In fact, here's a little tidbit - Max Barry, creator of Jennifer Government and Nation States - is Australian. I'm reasonably sure he doesn't ride to work in the pouch of a kangaroo or wrestle crocs for fun, either :)


...so, who's next?


Yeah ! What do the UK, European, Third World, Down Under also rans have to say !

The US is the world's only superpower !!! What do you peons have to say ?

Pfft. America Über Alles.

Steve Irwin kicks some serious booty. That's one of the few TV shows I find worth watching. And yes, it is extremely stupid.

Now, everyone's dead 'cept Australia... that kicks butt too.

Pfft. America Über Alles.

What he said !!!

It is America uber Alles !!! Ha Ha Ha !!!

its "Deutschland über alles" Colonists! :mad:

its "Deutschland über alles" Colonists! :mad:



Deutschland ! Ha ! nutcase Krauts... couldn't even make a atom bomb ! Talk about Bikini...

http://www.bikiniatoll.com/

I keep hearing America this (generally meaning the USA, and not North America, the continent), Europe that...

...Asia, Oceania, Africa, and South America (yes, the other America), speak up! There are several billion of us, after all. ;)



does the remainder of north america count for anything?

oh and as for australian people, in a fix has an australian guy who's a carpenter. i like australian accents and slang. *swoons*

its "Deutschland über alles" Colonists! :mad:
No, it was California Über Alles, but I was feeling witty. Krauts!

Deutschland ! Ha ! nutcase Krauts... couldn't even make a atom bomb ! Talk about Bikini...

http://www.bikiniatoll.com/
Depends... the Germans maybe didnt think that having atombombs would be useful since they are so blatantly antihuman and massdevastating that nobody in their right mind would use them anyway. Alas the Americans in their endless wisdom and experience, proved the world wrong and used them on civilians.

"Deutschland über Alles" is quite fitting, alas it does not mean the rule of Deutschland over every other nation in the world. It rather means the unification of Germany which was the dream of the German people (and of Fallersleben who wrote the Deutschlandlied) back in the 19th century, when Germany was not united but rather a bunch of kingdoms, provinces, states etc.

Using this phrase for America is maybe good, but it should be "United States of America über Alles" then, to properly display your imperialistic nature. If you didnt know yet, the U$ are the only (young) nation left over to go through their imperialistic phase. You too will learn that spreading too much will eventually cause problems which result in the collapse of the country.

Deutschland ! Ha ! nutcase Krauts... couldn't even make a atom bomb ! Talk about Bikini...

http://www.bikiniatoll.com/

Please refrain from flamebaiting... There are many Germans on this forum who I'm certain will not appreciate that.

I'm always getting mistaken for a limey or a yank.
Limies rock! :) :p :) ;) :p ;) :) :p ;) :cool:

I think there is a little misunderstanding here:

"Deutschland Uber Alles" was Germany's national anthem, which I believe was changed after WW2...

"California Uber Alles" is a Dead Kennedy's song which draws it's title from parodying Germany's national anthem, and applying it to a state of America.

All clear now? ;)

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P.S. Of course the rest of North America counts for something - I have quite a lot of Canadian friends. But Canadian voices aren't quite as rare on these forums as some from other continents I listed.

P.P.S. Geography really isn't my strong suit - sorry if I've neglected to mention anyone else...

I think there is a little misunderstanding here:

"Deutschland Uber Alles" was Germany's national anthem, which I believe was changed after WW2...
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No it wasn't changed, just outlawed.


It had been their national anthem since the mid 1800s and it was just outlawed, because "Nationalism is bad".

Australia Uber Alles. :p

No it wasn't changed, just outlawed.


It had been their national anthem since the mid 1800s and it was just outlawed, because "Nationalism is bad".

Are you sure it was outlawed?

Some friends of mine whose family are from Germany told me that the song remains, but some of the lines had been chaged...

Are you sure it was outlawed?

Some friends of mine whose family are from Germany told me that the song remains, but some of the lines had been chaged...


Last time I checked, it is outlawed. As is flying any flag used by the German Government, Armed forces, etc, from 1914-1918, and 1933-1945.

Depends... the Germans maybe didnt think that having atombombs would be useful since they are so blatantly antihuman and massdevastating that nobody in their right mind would use them anyway. Alas the Americans in their endless wisdom and experience, proved the world wrong and used them on civilians.


America saved lives with the bomb. Ironic? Entirely. Killing the few so the many can live is a perfectly logical, amoral decision. The only real complaint I'd have was that the targets needn't have been quite so populous; merely the show of power should have been enough to force the Japanese military into surrender.

I feel sad for the world. So many hate the US "Imperialist state" for its wealth and power, either of spite for their own collapsed empire or envy of what they have never and will never have. The problem is that the US is so entrenched in world affairs that if it was to collapse, or even withdraw into a self-driven isolationist nation, it would cause havoc.

I think there is a little misunderstanding here:

"Deutschland Uber Alles" was Germany's national anthem, which I believe was changed after WW2...

"California Uber Alles" is a Dead Kennedy's song which draws it's title from parodying Germany's national anthem, and applying it to a state of America.

All clear now? ;)

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P.S. Of course the rest of North America counts for something - I have quite a lot of Canadian friends. But Canadian voices aren't quite as rare on these forums as some from other continents I listed.

P.P.S. Geography really isn't my strong suit - sorry if I've neglected to mention anyone else...
Pfft. The Germans stole it from the Dead Kennedys, because it was so good. Notice the lack of the apostrophe.

;)

Yep, the world never recovered from the fall of the Roman empire or Colonial Britian either, did it? *rolls eyes*

Most of the rest of the world really isn't jealous of the USA you know...most of the animus is from the countries who been politically, militarily or economically screwed by the USA in the last century or so...

Depends... the Germans maybe didnt think that having atombombs would be useful since they are so blatantly antihuman and massdevastating that nobody in their right mind would use them anyway. Alas the Americans in their endless wisdom and experience, proved the world wrong and used them on civilians.

"Deutschland über Alles" is quite fitting, alas it does not mean the rule of Deutschland over every other nation in the world. It rather means the unification of Germany which was the dream of the German people (and of Fallersleben who wrote the Deutschlandlied) back in the 19th century, when Germany was not united but rather a bunch of kingdoms, provinces, states etc.

Using this phrase for America is maybe good, but it should be "United States of America über Alles" then, to properly display your imperialistic nature. If you didnt know yet, the U$ are the only (young) nation left over to go through their imperialistic phase. You too will learn that spreading too much will eventually cause problems which result in the collapse of the country.
You're right, Germany probably didn't want nukes anyway. I'm sure human life was Hitler's first concern.

Speaking of Hitler, we kicked his ass. Oh say can you see . . .

http://www.ci.cambridge.ma.us/~CFD/images/American%20flag.jpg

Pfft. The Germans stole it from the Dead Kennedys, because it was so good. Notice the lack of the apostrophe.

;)

Mia maxima culpa - pfft, I was always more of a Black Flag and Misfits fan anyways ;)

No American's aren't pushy - I mean, it's not like a thread titled "Non-American-non-Europeans: let your voice be heard! " would end up with a giant image of an American flag in it...err....:p

Mia maxima culpa - pfft, I was always more of a Black Flag and Misfits fan anyways ;)

Of course it is. How can you make a mistake like that.

Looks like Ol' Glory is getting a bit tattered in that picture.

Yep, the world never recovered from the fall of the Roman empire or Colonial Britian either, did it? *rolls eyes*

Most of the rest of the world really isn't jealous of the USA you know...most of the animus is from the countries who been politically, militarily or economically screwed by the USA in the last century or so...
Well, lemme think about that one. After Rome's decline Europe fell apart, and then later they had that Dark Ages dealy. I suppose it helped them religiously, or something. Britain's former possessions in the Middle East and Africa sure are doing well. India's so sparsely populated and well fed, and South Africa's certainly not having any crime problems. I know how well democracy's doing in Hong Kong now that they're part of China.

Yep, the collapse of the world order never hurt anyone.

Of course it is. How can you make a mistake like that.

Looks like Ol' Glory is getting a bit tattered in that picture.

Yeah, I noticed that.

And what the? It only has 49 stars!

Yeah, I noticed that.

And what the? It only has 49 stars!

I count 50. 6x5+5x4=50

I count 50. 6x5+5x4=50

Haha, you fell for it! :D

Haha, you fell for it!
Ha!

Yeah, I noticed that.

And what the? It only has 49 stars!
Quiet you, erm, America hater! Take your beef to the Cambridge fire department. I just used Google.

Quiet you, erm, America hater! Take your beef to the Cambridge fire department. I just used Google.

Haha. Got another one.

I feel sad for the world. So many hate the US "Imperialist state" for its wealth and power, either of spite for their own collapsed empire or envy of what they have never and will never have. The problem is that the US is so entrenched in world affairs that if it was to collapse, or even withdraw into a self-driven isolationist nation, it would cause havoc.

Oh Please.
Only an American could possibly say that and believe it.

No American's aren't pushy - I mean, it's not like a thread titled "Non-American-non-Europeans: let your voice be heard! " would end up with a giant image of an American flag in it...err....:p

New Fubaria, you're right. This is a place for NON-Americans to speak! I should respect that and go create a like-minded thread titled "Americans only! You others should keep your opinions to yourselves." Because that's the good, moral thing to do.

Haha. Got another one.
Yep, me calling you an America hater just proves you got me. I was aiming that post mainly at the tattered remark. :p

America saved lives with the bomb. Ironic? Entirely. Killing the few so the many can live is a perfectly logical, amoral decision. The only real complaint I'd have was that the targets needn't have been quite so populous; merely the show of power should have been enough to force the Japanese military into surrender.

I feel sad for the world. So many hate the US "Imperialist state" for its wealth and power, either of spite for their own collapsed empire or envy of what they have never and will never have. The problem is that the US is so entrenched in world affairs that if it was to collapse, or even withdraw into a self-driven isolationist nation, it would cause havoc.

But the problem is that America didn't kill the few, they bombed some mondominous cities. They may have done it so more could live, but dag-nam. You know, it's not called terrorism when America does it. On the same level, I don't think it is called terrorism when any Country does it. Maybe it is. And when you say it is an amoral decision, I am fairly certain that means that there were no morals used.

I feel sad for the world too: so many people affected negatively by the USA. Yeah, there are people who will swear by how great it is, but they are like, usually American, so they are already set in their mindstate.

Countries and Nationalism are funny. Funny indeed. Calling your neighbours better than my neighbours? Nice. Ha ha ha, If you wish to study a granfaloon, just take the skin off a toy baloon! You haven't a choice in family or compatibility, just company. I'm going to sleep.

New Fubaria, you're right. This is a place for NON-Americans to speak! I should respect that and go create a like-minded thread titled "Americans only! You others should keep your opinions to yourselves." Because that's the good, moral thing to do.

...um, you did get from the smiley that I was joking, right? ;)

Hang about, I'll just modify the title of this hijacked thread...;)

(psst, that was a JOKE, also)

Yep, me calling you an America hater just proves you got me. I was aiming that post mainly at the tattered remark. :p
Have at you!

http://www.civitas-stl.com/Tutorial/pictures/UN%20flag.jpg
http://www.touchwood-fr.com/images/french%20flag.jpg
http://lordofthecows.com/images/flagphotos/canadian_flag.jpg

And now that I have sufficiently weakened your resolve,

http://patrick.wattle.id.au/cameron/walks/bridges/0847b.jpeg
http://www.abcasiapacific.com/nexus/images/ep95_icons_01.jpg
http://www.pacific-destinations.com/australia/Images/ausflag.jpg

New Fubaria, you're right. This is a place for NON-Americans to speak! I should respect that and go create a like-minded thread titled "Americans only! You others should keep your opinions to yourselves." Because that's the good, moral thing to do.

Sorry to say this, but you, like most Americans encountered anywhere on the planet, seem to have the annoying habit of force feeding the rest of the world your habits/politics/opinions whether we want them or not.

Without meaning to offend... the American culture is like a virus - coming in and devouring/destroying/taking over the existing culture of any other society. I can say this because I am Australian and we are in mortal danger of becoming one of your vassal states (much to our horror).
The Australia/US trade agreement on the table at the moment is evidence of this.

I was in showlwater bay training area working with your red roosters in 99. You guys got a beautiful country thier in australia, even the outback where we were was quite the adventure. We went to a rodeo near rocky and I must say I like that bundemberg rum quite much, g'day m8 from the usa. :)

Here's a poll that may be a little more what I was trying to get across...

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6771948&posted=1#post6771948

P.S. Sorry to anyone who was offended by my topic title without bothering to actually read what it was there for...;)

is there one player up here who's NOT from the first world? third world junkies like me?

I think there is a little misunderstanding here:

"Deutschland Uber Alles" was Germany's national anthem, which I believe was changed after WW2...

"California Uber Alles" is a Dead Kennedy's song which draws it's title from parodying Germany's national anthem, and applying it to a state of America.

All clear now? ;)

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P.S. Of course the rest of North America counts for something - I have quite a lot of Canadian friends. But Canadian voices aren't quite as rare on these forums as some from other continents I listed.

P.P.S. Geography really isn't my strong suit - sorry if I've neglected to mention anyone else...

Sorry, it wasn't actually canged or banned. They just dropped the first verse and now they start on verse 2 "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit fur das Deutsche Vaterland" usw.

Sorry, it wasn't actually canged or banned. They just dropped the first verse and now they start on verse 2 "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit fur das Deutsche Vaterland" usw.

Sorry, I meant CHANGED. I wonder what canged is?

A thought or two on this subject matter:

The 'Non-American-Non-Europeans' are not replying to this post not because they're few in number - it's just that they probably have no access to this forum, because they don't have access to the 'Net, probably because they don't have access to a computer, which is a moot point when 2/3 of the world don't have access to reliable safe electricity! Or for that matter, more basic things like sufficient nutrition, basic security, and basic healthcare!

The 1/3 of the world's population we're a part of, we should be glad - no matter how bleak and nasty things look from your end, someone in Indonesia ,Somalia or Mongolia would probably give his/her mortal soul for a few months of our lifestyle.

Just a few thoughts. I'm not going to back up my figures, they're just rough estimates.

JiangGuo

All hail from South Africa! It's not so bad, I like it here. Since actually having lectures on how the counrty is run and also playing NationStates I can see how hard it must be to take over a country and try to get everything sorted. It takes a while but we'll get there!

Also it doesn't help to have big countries like America playing with our currency and making a profit from people less fortunate than themselves. Since 9/11, our currency and economy have stabilised no end...

Yeah ! What do the UK, European, Third World, Down Under also rans have to say !

The US is the world's only superpower !!! What do you peons have to say ?


The European Union is fast becoming a superpower to rival the US. Anyway, if George Bush wins the presidential election again the US won't be a superpower for much longer...

All hail from South Africa! It's not so bad, I like it here. Since actually having lectures on how the counrty is run and also playing NationStates I can see how hard it must be to take over a country and try to get everything sorted. It takes a while but we'll get there!

Also it doesn't help to have big countries like America playing with our currency and making a profit from people less fortunate than themselves. Since 9/11, our currency and economy have stabilised no end...

South Africa eh? How 'bout that Schalk Burger?

Sorry, it wasn't actually canged or banned. They just dropped the first verse and now they start on verse 2 "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit fur das Deutsche Vaterland" usw.
Right, except that "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" is verse 3 and not 2.
The anthem was chosen in 1922 as anthem of the Weimar Republic. Or three verses were equal. Between 1933-45 only the first one was used. In 1952 the Federal Republiv of Germany chose to declare it again to the national anthem however only to use verse 3. East Germany created a new anthem (Auferstanden aus Ruinen - Rebuild from ruins). In 1990 after the reunification it was declared as the anthem of the reunified country.

Please refrain from flamebaiting... There are many Germans on this forum who I'm certain will not appreciate that.



Calling Germans Krauts is not flamebaiting ! You're a political correctness nutcase ! I used to live with nazi's over in Germany. One elderly lady lamented the fact that the The Third Reich failed to kill all the Gypsies. Ha ! Just for your information KRAUT is like LIMEY ! Germany was so devastated that frequently Germans survived upon meals of cabbage or kraut even long after the war. So...
I suppose next we shall not be able to call UK's Limey ! Soon there shall be no difference bewteen any of us and we may as well just be mass produced computer chips babel-ing on a faker than Hollywood message forum that does not even have enough reality to spread peanut butter !
Myrth-- you are a politically correct nutcase censor and you should have been a member of the Gestapo or NKVD-- I hope someone packs you off to a gulag some where and works you like a slave until you become a good comrade. In fact, I'm going to see if that 'assain' Anarchy 2 that posts here will 'assain'-in-ate you ! HA ! HA ! HA ! You need to be thumped as the anti-free speech thought police-like communist censor you are ! Stick political correctness in your ear, Stalin ! You're at the back of a long line with Hitler, Mau, and Rameses way in front of you ! I'm sure someone will come and defend your right to be a Politically Correct CENSOR ! Ha ! You're probably a Limey !!!

The European Union is fast becoming a superpower to rival the US. Anyway, if George Bush wins the presidential election again the US won't be a superpower for much longer...


No doubt, Kathlonianton ! The EU will beTHE superpower once they get their 'horns' in order. So what ! Like a European superpower is something new? How about the Roman Empire ? The EU will be just like a faker than Hollywood re-run with feet of clay ! Ha ! At least America is an original ! USA !!! USA !!!

Hi all,

I keep hearing America this (generally meaning the USA, and not North America, the continent), Europe that...

...Asia, Oceania, Africa, and South America (yes, the other America), speak up! There are several billion of us, after all. ;)

I can't tell you how many times I have criticised Bush or US foriegn policy online only to have it automatically assumed that I am European...well actually I can - twice :p - but still, I'm sure you get my menaing.

I just want to hear how many other NS members are not from "the big two"...

Let me start - I am from Australia...you know, that country that most Americans know nothing about except Crocodile Dundee, "A dingo stole my baby!", kangaroos, koalas and *shudder* Steve Irwin...

I live in a suburban house, not in the outback. In fact, around 95% or more of Australia's population live in suburban areas. I work in the commercial sector in telecommunications, not shearing sheep or hunting crocodiles. I don't wear an acoubra hat with corks dangling from it, or khaki shorts.

In fact, here's a little tidbit - Max Barry, creator of Jennifer Government and Nation States - is Australian. I'm reasonably sure he doesn't ride to work in the pouch of a kangaroo or wrestle crocs for fun, either :)

...so, who's next?

Your not the only one you know every major country is stereotyped by the rest of the world, get over it

America saved lives with the bomb. Ironic? Entirely. Killing the few so the many can live is a perfectly logical, amoral decision. The only real complaint I'd have was that the targets needn't have been quite so populous; merely the show of power should have been enough to force the Japanese military into surrender.

I feel sad for the world. So many hate the US "Imperialist state" for its wealth and power, either of spite for their own collapsed empire or envy of what they have never and will never have. The problem is that the US is so entrenched in world affairs that if it was to collapse, or even withdraw into a self-driven isolationist nation, it would cause havoc.

The U.S. is just the scape goat for places with real beauty, power, and wealth like Siberia, Sweeden, and Switzerland. Iron Man Rickenbacker US Ace of Aces in WW I, one time proprietor of the Indy 500, and Black Jack's chaufer even went back to Switzerland before he died. America is just a hell bent for leather frontier country that can kick arse on the rest of the world for the moment. Stand in the street at the turn of a joke and curse that black powder smoke ! DRAW !!!

Now Uncle Sam is just an old man in Iraq that no one believes
says he's a gunfighter, the last of the breed
and there are oil war ghosts in the street seeking revenge
calling him out to the gas pump and the lunatic fringe
now he's out in the superpower traffic checking the sun
and he's killed by an EU car as he goes for his gun...

http://countrysongslyrics.com/c/clarkguy/thelastgunfighterballad.html

Oh, yeah... the Red Chinese and Russians will fight soon, but we all know what happens to Magog, Tubal,and Rosh. HA HA HA !

Its a little complicated where im from, but lived in India most of my life.

Your not the only one you know every major country is stereotyped by the rest of the world, get over it

Thanks for your kind words...the smilies kinda escaped you, huh? Thanks for trying to understand though...:)

Sorry, I meant CHANGED. I wonder what canged is?

Maybe a typo, oh great internet spellchecker! *sheesh* ;)