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The oil price is testing the 45 $ a barrel mark. What does that really mean? To most people 45 $ a barrel is just a number, but truth of the matter is it's more than just a number. It is almost close in importance as the DJIA (Dow Jones Industry Avg) slipping below 10000 percentage points, or NASDAQ falling below the 2000 mark.

The reason(s): there are so many and they all work in sync with one another. The newscasters all have their theories, yet they don't seem very unison in their reasoning and predictions.

1. China's economic bloom has led to increase in demand for resources; i.e. oil. - This demand for oil is not only limited to either the industry or consumer side. But the entire country as a whole. It is logical to think with the enormous population of China a fractional demand for anything will effect beyond the borders of China.

2. Continuing sabotage activities conducted by terrorists in key oil producing areas. - Peace has not been implemented in Iraq. Contuing unrest in Iraq has a double negative effect. Stops in production keeps denting the oil supply. Oil supply demands a continuous and fluent production. It has to be as predictable as possible. Oil pumped today has either already been sold or will be sold in one to six months from today at a fixed price. This staccato oil production effects the oil price up. In addition it will create insecurity and dramatic unpredictability which will force oil merchants to "bake in" an extra cost to an already dangerously high oil price.

3. According to newscasters; oil production is running at full steam, the supply lines just can't transport more than they already do. This will also create a higher oil price.

4. Temporary and minor events around the world effects the oil price, the almost oil strike in Norway, the political "push and shove" and election in Venezuela, major corporation versus the state; i.e. Russia.

D.O.O. continues.

Please post opinions, problems and solutions.

PM Kwanza Parranoyd.

A company called Changing World Technologies has the solution. They can make high quality oil and natural gas from garbage and sewage. They have a plant in operation in Misouri USA that processes waste from an industrial Turkey farm and are building one in the Philadelphia PA (USA) area to convert sewage into oil.

RAISE THOSE PRICES!

I say get them as high as possible! 100$ a barrel! No, higher! Create social unrest and a public outcry for alternative fuel sources that can't be silenced or bought out!

A company called Changing World Technologies has the solution. They can make high quality oil and natural gas from garbage and sewage. They have a plant in operation in Misouri USA that processes waste from an industrial Turkey farm and are building one in the Philadelphia PA (USA) area to convert sewage into oil.

But will that really suffice? I mean sure we have ALOT of garbage and waste but is it enough oil to sustain our needs.
Another important point how expensive is this recycling?

The US is the world's leader in garbage production. Producing oil from it and establishing laws that enforce fuel efficiency will suffice.

The US is the world's leader in garbage production. Producing oil from it and establishing laws that enforce fuel efficiency will suffice.

Granted that the US is THE no.1 garbage producer, I'm sure the EU isn't lagging very much behind. The key issues to your solution really are: volume and price. Will Ethopia or Myanmar or Nicaragua or any developing countries be able to 1. have access to this technology. 2. afford this technology.

the time is now for the beginning of truly viable alternative energies. we can create nanotechnology, a microcomputer the size of a cell, and can;t come up to an alternative to the combustible engine? the problem is right now there are no viable alternatives other than nuclear energy for electricity. the good thing about oil being over 40 dollars a barrel, r/d becomes more feasible, and in my opinion, research in oil alternatives is now a national security issue. the answer isn;t forcing what's known as "zero-return" energies, quite simply, there isn;t a viable alternative that now exists. western governments, especially the US, need to start right away in investing real monies and giving tax breaks for r/d into alternatives to the combustible engine...want to know why i am harping on the engine? 2/3 of oil cponsumed by americans is at the gas pump, in refined oil known as gasoline.....and a fringe benefit no one seems to care about is cleaner air and much less greenhouse gases...anyway, my point is, there isn;t an alternative that is viable yet, but action toward true investment in finding one should start now......

I agree with you Antileftism with the fact that the need to research in alternatives should even must become a matter of national security. The longer we wait can result in terrifying scenarioes.
However the concept of research an alternative is a daunting task. What is the most benificiary but also realistic approach? What about the outcome? An example; gas. it's proven profitable. It's very accessible, making the production side easy. The conversion from gas to something you can fill your car is within reach, it's somewhat expensive but with time that will without a doubt be possible IF we choose gas. But the outcome, even though gas is better than oil enviromentally we are still "killing our planet... softly with our energy dependancy." So what then. Sci-fi solutions? Huge stellar sails... beaming energy to earth. It's about money. How much can we afford to spend on an alternative?

What about using Hemp as an alternative source to oil. While it may not completly replace oil, it has the capability to completely change world industries. The pulp of the plant can be made into methenol, which can be used to power cars. Not only that, but pure pressed hemp seed oil can run deisel engines with some minor conversions. The answer is already there, the US needs to end its prohibition of hemp. heres some more hemp info Click (http://www.cannabis.com/faqs/hemp1.shtml)

Please participate in my ongoing discussion regarding Dependancy On Oil. The opinions, problems and solutions will eventually result in a suggestion for a resolution.

PM Kwanza Parranoyd.

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What about using Hemp as an alternative source to oil. While it may not completly replace oil, it has the capability to completely change world industries. The pulp of the plant can be made into methenol, which can be used to power cars. Not only that, but pure pressed hemp seed oil can run deisel engines with some minor conversions. The answer is already there, the US needs to end its prohibition of hemp. heres some more hemp info Click (http://www.cannabis.com/faqs/hemp1.shtml)
Mmmm...hemp...

Sorry man, but hemp dosn't do anything to you. Industrial Hemp has such a low amount of THC in it that it is impossible for someone to get a buzz off of it. However, hemp seeds are very good for you, even better than that soy crap!

Sorry man, but hemp dosn't do anything to you. Industrial Hemp has such a low amount of THC in it that it is impossible for someone to get a buzz off of it. However, hemp seeds are very good for you, even better than that soy crap!
But still hemp is the rawmaterial of the stuff that dreams are made of.

But will that really suffice? I mean sure we have ALOT of garbage and waste but is it enough oil to sustain our needs.
Another important point how expensive is this recycling?
for our fuel supplies alone negating the needs of the rest of the world? should cover it plenty fine. and that is just garbage, garbage is a renewable source: old fruit, vegetables, HUMAN WASTE, etc, all can be converted, and how much more expensive can it be?

What about using Hemp as an alternative source to oil. While it may not completly replace oil, it has the capability to completely change world industries. The pulp of the plant can be made into methenol, which can be used to power cars. Not only that, but pure pressed hemp seed oil can run deisel engines with some minor conversions. The answer is already there, the US needs to end its prohibition of hemp. heres some more hemp info Click (http://www.cannabis.com/faqs/hemp1.shtml)
everyone knows the benefits of hemp, but remember, we work in system called capitalism, shit doesnt happen unless big business profits, it will cost big business money to research, switch to and start producing hemp based material

Is anyone thinking of Back To the Future? Or is it just me, remember the Doctor hada car that ran on garbage lol.

But we need to use alternative energy, the dual energy of gas + electric is good. And less and less gas is used because of this.

What about using Hemp as an alternative source to oil. While it may not completly replace oil, it has the capability to completely change world industries. The pulp of the plant can be made into methenol, which can be used to power cars. Not only that, but pure pressed hemp seed oil can run deisel engines with some minor conversions. The answer is already there, the US needs to end its prohibition of hemp. heres some more hemp info Click (http://www.cannabis.com/faqs/hemp1.shtml)
Switchgrass would work just as good. The problem, however, is that no good sources of biofuels are currently grown on a massive scale anywhere in the world. It'd take at least thirty years before the US could grow enough of anything to supply its own energy needs.

Alternative Energy, Conservation, etc.

My two main interests are space-based microwave energy relay stations(a bit sci-fi), and a newish technology called Thermal Depolymerization.

Thermal Depolymerization is an EXISTING technology that can break down anything to useable and sterile components. It's particularly efficient at breaking down wet carbon-based refuse. Tyson has a thermal depolymerization prototype at one of it's turkey rendering plants. It processes tens of thousands of pounds of turkey guts weekly, and the only thing coming out of it is oil(funtionally identical to heating oil), natural gas, sterile water, and trace minerals(for fertilizer). The Tyson Plant, thanks to heat reclaimers, is actually self-sufficient, producing enough natural gas to power itself!!

Alternative Energy, Conservation, etc.

My two main interests are space-based microwave energy relay stations(a bit sci-fi), and a newish technology called Thermal Depolymerization.

Thermal Depolymerization is an EXISTING technology that can break down anything to useable and sterile components. It's particularly efficient at breaking down wet carbon-based refuse. Tyson has a thermal depolymerization prototype at one of it's turkey rendering plants. It processes tens of thousands of pounds of turkey guts weekly, and the only thing coming out of it is oil(funtionally identical to heating oil), natural gas, sterile water, and trace minerals(for fertilizer). The Tyson Plant, thanks to heat reclaimers, is actually self-sufficient, producing enough natural gas to power itself!!
Well at least America can know we'll still have our turkey :D.