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I am discusted as well becuase i know the main reason is oil, but we have all seen or heard of the movie/book/events of Black Hawk Down once we(americans) tried to help out for nothing in return. Well that screwed us over nicly so now when we(the government) wants to help some one they want to make sure the risk is worth it and billions of dollars worth of oil is worth it to them. So think of this next time you start up you car that son your friend lost was so you could get gas for 1.50 not the 1.90(it is now around me).

It's disgusted, not discusted.


Oh, and your lucky. It's over $2.05 here in Southern California.

i know that didnt look right well theres a place in maryland where i saw it for 1.45

I am discusted as well becuase i know the main reason is oil, but we have all seen or heard of the movie/book/events of Black Hawk Down once we(americans) tried to help out for nothing in return. Well that screwed us over nicly so now when we(the government) wants to help some one they want to make sure the risk is worth it and billions of dollars worth of oil is worth it to them. So think of this next time you start up you car that son your friend lost was so you could get gas for 1.50 not the 1.90(it is now around me).

What?

DisGusted. theres no C

So..... are you arguing..... for it? Or against it? I can not quite decipher this post.

Heh, I get excited now seeing gas at 1.75...in PA...

I doubt you'll find it anywhere in the nation for 1.50...I'm guessing you're not old enough to drive? Since watching the gas prices pre-Iraq war to now...oil prices as well..it is rather obvious that it is NOT about oil...please come up with another easy and catchy anti-war excuse...oil's gettin' real old.

The biggest reason for the hike in oil prices is OPEC is a bunch of Arab businesmen. They are good businesmen too, they know the US needs the oil and will pay for it, so they raise the prices. The thing is, the prices would go down considerably if oil companies were allowed in Alaska.

I can almost promise that gas prices will go down rather dramaticly in september or october. Why? A ploy by Bush to get the votes in, of course.

I've tried to tell people before what it's about..

* Reposition permanently based forces to Southern Europe, Southeast Asia and the Middle East;
* Modernize U.S. forces, including enhancing fighter aircraft, submarine and surface fleet capabilities;
* Develop and deploy a global missile defense system, and develop a strategic dominance of space;
* Control the "International Commons" of cyberspace;
* Increase defense spending to a minimum of 3.8 percent of gross domestic product, up from the 3 percent currently spent.


It's called "PNAC" and it's the most evil thing to happen to the world since Hitler!

Did you know that gas stations are prohibited from showing pre-tax costs of gasoline?

Hey if you think gas prices are high for you guys, imagine how we feel in Canada.

Where I live, average gas price is... $0.85 or so. Sounds low? Now remember, this is in Litres. So equivalent price to you guys, $3.40, which is probably about $2.60 to you guys.

[QUOTE=Tango Urilla]I am discusted as well becuase i know the main reason is oil,[QUOTE]
There's a difference between your oppinions and facts.

Even though you think the main reason is oil, it isn't necessarily a fact.

The biggest reason for the hike in oil prices is OPEC is a bunch of Arab businesmen. They are good businesmen too, they know the US needs the oil and will pay for it, so they raise the prices. The thing is, the prices would go down considerably if oil companies were allowed in Alaska.

opec is almost at full capacity
whats really raising the prices is adding in the terror factor.
russia yukos oil giant is under risk of bankrupcy in less then a month, constant attack to iraqi oil pipelines, and now risk to saudi arabias pipelines, and also rising demand in china, and the worldwide global demand.

right now when you cost in inflation, we still pay less then we did leading up to the gulf war in 1990, less then 1980, and less then the 70's

So contrary to popular belief, this is not sum huge plot to take over the oil world. Its just the market in action which is not favoring us.

What people don't seem to realize, is that oil is a very important thing in this situation. Now, out of Iraq's total exports, about 85-90% is oil. So, when they sell oil, that money goes into their economy, which raises their standard of living, and history has shown that poverty is prime breeding grounds for offensive dictatorships. So, yes, we can get oil from them, maybe a little bit cheaper, hey it's good for us, but ALSO, the money we spend on their oil helps them rebuild. This, my friends, is what's called win-win.


If you say that we shouldn't buy their oil, then you must not want their people to enjoy good fortunes, and live good lives, and be a bit happier then they were, as a whole. Also, oil was not the only reason for this war, in fact, it wasn't a reason at all, but it's a definite bonus, for us and them both.


I could go on about even more of all this, but this bit here is what's important to the current debate.

(sorry for going off like this, but I'd think this would be fairly common sensical, or something, to anyone that's taken an economics class or some such...)

....you must not want their people to enjoy good fortunes, and live good lives, and be a bit happier then they were, as a whole. Also, oil was not the only reason for this war, in fact, it wasn't a reason at all, but it's a definite bonus, for us and them both..so...the War was good for the average Iraqui? Lets make War with all oil countries...ITS A WIN_WIN SITUATION <sarcasm>

I think that anyone should never have invade iraq,there was no need for that the only thing that they want is the oil and wanted power over that area of the world.

In Oregon it's anywhere from 1.82 to 2.19. Mostly 2+.

I am discusted as well becuase i know the main reason is oil, but we have all seen or heard of the movie/book/events of Black Hawk Down once we(americans) tried to help out for nothing in return. Well that screwed us over nicly so now when we(the government) wants to help some one they want to make sure the risk is worth it and billions of dollars worth of oil is worth it to them. So think of this next time you start up you car that son your friend lost was so you could get gas for 1.50 not the 1.90(it is now around me).

Yes mr moorer. i'll beleive anything you say.

if anyone thinks the only reason we went in was for oil has to be simple minded. to think that we would stop our war on terror and attack poor irac because they are the only country that has oil and sadam never ever used gas to kill the curds is insane.

I think that anyone should never have invade iraq,there was no need for that the only thing that they want is the oil and wanted power over that area of the world.



I'd like to see you live someplace where your government tells you who to support, and any dissent from that, even in the privacy of your own home, will get you killed, and then say, "No, we don't want help, we're fine like this." Because I know I couldn't do that.

If America invaded Irag for oil would it not make better since for prices to be low instead of high as they have been.

Yes mr moorer. i'll beleive anything you say.

if anyone thinks the only reason we went in was for oil has to be simple minded. to think that we would stop our war on terror and attack poor irac because they are the only country that has oil and sadam never ever used gas to kill the curds is insane.

Yes because it's an evil thing to kill a curd!!
Save them to grow up and put into Poutine!!!
:)