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Italy or Spain. Maybe the south of France.

Iceland.

aussie, or the states

russia

Sweden or the english countryside.

Spain or the Netherlands cause i would like to learn another language and these places are both pretty cool places to do so (not to mention that fact that the Dutch have many beautiful women and copious amounts of ganja).

Spain or the Netherlands cause i would like to learn another language and these places are both pretty cool places to do so (not to mention that fact that the Dutch have many beautiful women and copious amounts of ganja).

Beautiful women, eh? ;) That's exactly why I picked Thailand. That's where my beautiful woman lives. :D

Noone does blondes quite like the Dutch :)

Toss up ... Australia or Okinawa.

I think Australia

Probably England.

Noone does blondes quite like the Dutch :)

Ah, you're into blondes, eh? ;)

if i had to go FAST
mexico
otherwise id move to aruba. tiny island just a bit north of venezuela
a great cross between the laid back attitude of the islands and the societal know how of the dutch. its clean, prosperous, well run, peaceful and has great windsurfing and diving. what more could an expatriot want?

Hmmmm if I had to move to another country, it'd probably be ... I'm tempted to say America (since I actually am moving there in 2 years time), except that's kind of a lame answer. So therefore, I'm going with...

Britain or Italy.

If I weren’t so lazy I’m move to Australia. But seeing as though I am lazy I’d probably just wind up in Canada. It’s closer than any other state boarder anyways I believe. Maybe I’ll just go to Ireland. I don't want to have to learn another language, otherwise I might go to Japan. But everything there is made for short people and I hate seafood, so that's definitely out of the question. So Canada, Australia or Ireland. Tough call so I quess I'll will have to dig deeper. Canada has French as a second language. Most of the French Canadians that I have previously dealt with were assholes. So lets get rid of Canada. Ireland now lets see. Snakes. There are apparently no snakes in Ireland. So screw that idea. Australia, lots of snakes, nice beaches, toilets flush in the other direction, easy to find an area of seclusion. Australia it is, even though I‘m lazy.

I'd move to New Zealand. They give their prostitutes instruction manuals.

I'd move to New Zealand. They give their prostitutes instruction manuals.

Are you serious? :eek:

Canada, I guess. I'm pretty happy in the US--and from what I've seen, Canada seems very similar.

Well, I've already been plannin' on it for a few years..so I'll say Canada. And no, not to dodge the draft. :-p

Are you serious? :eek:

I'd love to see the troubleshooting guide. ;)

Irish Republic.. or maybe the UK.. (but not Ulster in the UK, being a Protestant with sympathies for the N. Irish Catholics, i'd probably get kneecapped by the Prot. militias)

Cuase i admire bush so much ill move to the country of africa

Are you serious? :eek:


Well prostitution is legal, so yeah they can print guides if they like.

I live in New Zealand, I'd probably go to Canada.

I'd love to see the troubleshooting guide. ;)

You can download the PDF here
http://www.osh.dol.govt.nz/order/catalogue/235.shtml

Its a safety and health guide more than anything else but apparently it is explicit so if thats what floats your boat then go ahead.

Move to Australia: home of beer, cricket and 6/10 of the world's deadliest snakes!

If I had to leave Aus, I'd go to Scotland or Canada

HMMMMMM,
I would say America or Canada,
But everythings so cheap in Thailand (Yes,including that)
But I like most things Japanese,and I think it would be cool to live there

I would head to Australia or Switzerland

Or just any country that allows you to carry or own a gun. I think that is one right that we are seriously missing out on

I would head to Australia or Switzerland
Any reasons?swiss cheese?

Probably England.
Any reason?

Canada, I guess. I'm pretty happy in the US--and from what I've seen, Canada seems very similar.
Except they shoot each other a lot less.

Ireland or China.
I love Ireland, but I have always been fascinated with China, such an old culture. I could study wing chun with some of the best.
The most beautiful women are Chinese.
I am not really concerned with politics, i know it is rough, I just speaking Idealy.
Ireland is just awesome, the people are friendly and warm and it is like some strange Norman Rockwell dream.
I loved it there.
Barring those too I would head straight for Mexico.

The most beautiful women are Chinese.

They are quite beautiful, but no one's as beautiful as my girl (who's Thai). One thing I like about Chinese women is, even when they're in their 40s and early 50s they still look so young.

England!

Britain. Although I'm sure their culture would be odd to adjust to at first, me being American and hating the monarchy. Get a young King already! You look so disgraceful having an old bag be the symbol of your nation! Even I'M saying this!

Switzerland or britain sound good they are I would say on the top list with the USA or maybe Japan also and or canada or australlia I could take as well.

Reasons: Switzerland is a beautiful place and much freedom is to be enjoyed there they were at the top list of freedom in the world tied with the USA as was britain which is a place I think would be easy to get used to living in and is also a great country like the USA. I could stand australlia and somewhere like vancouver canada around there might be ok. Japan would be cool I am a big fan of alot of their culture and history etc.

Britain. Although I'm sure their culture would be odd to adjust to at first, me being American and hating the monarchy. Get a young King already! You look so disgraceful having an old bag be the symbol of your nation! Even I'M saying this!
We won't have to wait long.
Waddaya want us to do?
Shoot her?

We won't have to wait long.
Waddaya want us to do?
Shoot her?
tha'd be nice...she's nice n open when she does her little wave looking dazed

;P

Italy or Spain. Maybe the south of France.

Wow, hehe that is where I'd want to move too, but not Spain.. but the other two. It's funny cause Zeppistan and I were having this very conversation the other day. The two I came up with were Italy and the south of France..lol

Already did move to another country: from the UK to the US about eight years ago.

Spain or the Netherlands cause i would like to learn another language and these places are both pretty cool places to do so (not to mention that fact that the Dutch have many beautiful women and copious amounts of ganja).


Hell yeah!

Italy or Spain. Maybe the south of France.

Spain = Southern France.....get it right man

Canada. If not Canada, I'd just go down the list of English speaking countries. I might say Denmark or somewhere like that, but the idea of moving to another country in which I have zero knowledge of the language is not appealing. We've got a fair amount of Mexicans here who speak no English, and I don't want to live like that. I'd try to learn as quickly as I could, but that takes a while, during which I'd have to support myself.

I'd go for the UK, Canada, or maybe Australia. They seem the most similar to the states. If I took the effort to learn a new language, I'd probably go to Germany, Austria, or Switzerland- they all seem like great places, too.

i'm not sure. somewhere in europe for certain. i think maybe holland, with the whole legalized drugs thing, that could be fun, going out for some pot instead of out for a pint. perhaps sweden, world's highest standard of living and all.

the only thing is that i might have to go to the states for my carreer (well if i want to do anything really interesting in astrophysics) (and well, either that or south america, which i wouldn't mind either) and yeah, if i were to go to the states, i'd probably end up in hawaii, which seems like a groovy state to live in. perhaps i'd take up surfing...

Reasons: Switzerland is a beautiful place and much freedom is to be enjoyed there they were at the top list of freedom in the world tied with the USA

Just curious about such a list. Can it be found on the net?

perhaps sweden, world's highest standard of living and all.

On UNs last list over that type we where on second place, beaten by our neighboors Norway.

Anyway, I think I'd pick Denmark. The language is closely related to swedish, but I don't understand that much of it. But I think it wouldn't be that hard to learn if you heard it on a daily basis. Also, I am pretty sure I can get along very well with my english, eventho that would feel wierd. ;)

France, definitely. Probably down in the south. Why? Because the way of life is spot on - good food, good wine, loads of sunshine (especially in the south). The people are friendly and everything closes for 2 or 3 hours for lunch.

austrailia cause its sexy and I could surf my days. Or one of those tropical islands like canada.

(that last sentece was making fun of something britney spears said if ya dont know)

Scotland, of course. I love Edinburgh; I'd move into Edinburgh Castle tomorrow if it was for rent. I love bagpipe music & I have a serious thing for a guy (any guy, to be honest) in a kilt. I even like haggis.

mmm living in Italy I would never leave (mainly because of food and wine I guess)... if I trully had to then my choices are:

#1 France (food, wine, culture, women)
#2 Finland (women, but the weather... ;) )
#3 Canada (culture, but the weather... :rolleyes: )
#4 Greece (food, but the women... :p )

.... perhaps sweden, world's highest standard of living and all.

Actually, the average black in the US has a higher standard of living than the average swede.

Actually, the average black in the US has a higher standard of living than the average swede.


yeah, right. based on?

Actually, the average black in the US has a higher standard of living than the average swede.

Considering Sweden has the second highest standard of living in the world, I doubt it.

So Monkeypimp? Sweden has the 2nd highest standard of living...ok.
Buggard was just saying the average black in the US has higher standard of living than average swede. The average black american thus has the highest standard of living in the world, that's all. MLK would be happy now.

Well: I would be of course most comfortable to move to another country with the same language. In that respect only Austria or Switzerland is an option. Swiss German is more different though than Austrian German but it is a neutral country which managed to stay out of all troubles in Europe in the last 200 years. Besides of the fact that it has low taxes, the bank secret and good cheese.
And of course a high standard of living which outweighs the high cost of living a bit.
Outside of that only an English-speaking country would be an option. I actually like South Africa. But as a white it might not be wise to settle in this region permanently.
I could imagine moving to Ireland (Dublin) or the UK (somewhere around London) or the US (but rather in the north-east (New-England states (Boston) or Pensylvania). I haven´t been to Australia or New Zealand yet, but that might be an option as well.

So Monkeypimp? Sweden has the 2nd highest standard of living...ok.
Buggard was just saying the average black in the US has higher standard of living than average swede. The average black american thus has the highest standard of living in the world, that's all. MLK would be happy now.

Which would mean that every other American would be well below the rest of the OECD on average.

So Monkeypimp? Sweden has the 2nd highest standard of living...ok.
Buggard was just saying the average black in the US has higher standard of living than average swede. The average black american thus has the highest standard of living in the world, that's all. MLK would be happy now.

Hehe. ;)

That was my point Pimp. I'm glad to see the average black american does so well, while USA is only the 8th in the UN standard of living index.

OH! and apparently most black americans reside in Norway, since Norway is on top of that list.

Maybe France, maybe Sweden, possibly Japan or even Britain.

Read a newspaper article some time ago. Couldn't find that one, but a generic google search came up with this:

According to a recent study, however, the cat is out of the bag. Relative to household in the United States, Swedish family income is considerably less. In fact, the study concludes, average income in Sweden is less than average income for black Americans, which comprise the lowest-income socioeconomic group in this country.

http://www.mises.org/fullstory.aspx?control=955

OK, it was the average income and not living standard.

Now guys, can you document your claim that sweden has the second highest living standard in the world?

Japan, followed by Norway and Canada

Sure Buggard. This is the list usually getting most media coverage: http://www.undp.org/hdr2003/indicator/indic_8_1_1.html
The full report you can find in UN pages.

Bear in mind it was initially designed to assess the needs of 3rd world countries though. But i guess it can be used to feel good about ourselves in the west too. "Standard of living" could of course be measured in various other ways too.

What you said about average income in Sweden compared to americans is probably true, but i'd imagine it's b'cos the swedes pay so much in taxes in order to get social benefits like free schooling and medicare (i doubt it's gross income they were comparing).

I live in Belgium, Europe.

If I had to move I would go to Switzerland, Canada, NoCal, the south of France, or Japan. In no particular order.

Sure Buggard. This is the list usually getting most media coverage: http://www.undp.org/hdr2003/indicator/indic_8_1_1.html

The HDI is not living standard either. It is just a measure of development based on GDP, life expectancy and education. That means if the country is rich, gices you free education and enough drugs to keep you alive in a hospital bed for many years when you're old, the land will get a high HDI.

Norway, my country, on top of the list actually spends 55% of the national budget on health care and welfare payments alone! And still we have people giving birth in hospital corridors, can't provide the elderly with single rooms etc.

Last year we had net decrease in GDP!

A third of our export is raw oil, and we're the third largest oil exporters in the whole world. And we're just around 5 million people.

No wonder we're on top. :)


The full report you can find in UN pages.

Here's the latest: http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2004/


What you said about average income in Sweden compared to americans is probably true, but i'd imagine it's b'cos the swedes pay so much in taxes in order to get social benefits like free schooling and medicare (i doubt it's gross income they were comparing).
Which means they have less freedom to spend their money as they like.

And even with much more freedom, the US is not far behind, on 8th.

It's also worth noting that all the top nations are small nations with few people, or relatively few people but with enourmous land area. The two exceptions are the US and Japan.

mmm living in Italy I would never leave (mainly because of food and wine I guess)... if I trully had to then my choices are:

#1 France (food, wine, culture, women)
#2 Finland (women, but the weather... ;) )
#3 Canada (culture, but the weather... :rolleyes: )
#4 Greece (food, but the women... :p )

Not all parts of Canada have bad weather.... the west coast has a very moderate climate.

I couldn't agree much more Buggard. As i stated, it depends on how you want to measure "standard of living". the UN chooses to do it based on GDP, life expectancy and education, because it suits their purposes - which in this case is to assess 3rd world countries. Their report just happens to be the one most ppl refer to.

If one wants to argue that freedom to spend your money how you want and not pay taxes is the best way to measure standard of living, i'm sure the average black american does better than a swede (and most Europeans for that matter... maybe ppl living in Monaco have it better).

I'm fully aware of the problems in your hospitals, cos i some 7 years back lost a girlfriend going to work in a norwegian hospital - cos you ppl are too good to work in the health care branch. (hehe)

I couldn't agree much more Buggard. As i stated, it depends on how you want to measure "standard of living". the UN chooses to do it based on GDP, life expectancy and education, because it suits their purposes - which in this case is to assess 3rd world countries. Their report just happens to be the one most ppl refer to.

I know, and I understand. But I think people should be a little more carefull before idealising the nordic countries.

As mentioned, I live in Norway. And I'm grateley thankful that I do. At the moment Norway is in a golden age. Thanks to the marshall help and good work ethics after WWII followed by the discovery of oil along the coast line. But it won't last. Our good fortune today may very well be our downfall tomorrow. Because we have all the oil and a lot of other nature resources, we're rich. But at the same time we've created an extraordinary large public (as in not private, but state financed) service sector (the largest in the world per capita.) A total of 74% of norwegians work in the service sector (private and public), and the industrial sector is suffering. We have very high payment rolls and costs, making it very expensive to keep up the high employment rate and the export industries are suffering. And the oil wells will dry, then what?




I'm fully aware of the problems in your hospitals, cos i some 7 years back lost a girlfriend going to work in a norwegian hospital - cos you ppl are too good to work in the health care branch. (hehe)
Ohh... I think that sounded worse than how you ment it, because to me that sounded like norwegian hospitals killed her. :eek:

Read a newspaper article some time ago. Couldn't find that one, but a generic google search came up with this:


http://www.mises.org/fullstory.aspx?control=955

OK, it was the average income and not living standard.

Now guys, can you document your claim that sweden has the second highest living standard in the world?

http://hdr.undp.org

285 pages, but most medias prolly took notice about it and wrote an article around the 15th of July.

And about your site... Only numbers it presents, are these:

The study used "fixed prices and purchasing power parity adjusted data," and found that "the median household income in Sweden at the end of the 1990s was the equivalent of $26,800, compared with a median of $39,400 for U.S. households." Furthermore, the study points out that Swedish productivity has fallen rapidly relative to per capital productivity in the USA.

Now, what would be really intresting to know would be to see how many incomes the median household actually has. If the Swedish median household has 2 incomes, wich I find most likely, it means they have an income of 8375 SEK each(counting on 1USD=7,50SEK). as sweden has workweeks of 40hours that leaves you on an income at 78SEK/hour or 10,4USD/hour. This low hourly income is kind of just given to jobs such as retail(stores selling food etc). And then when you don't have any experience of this job. But when for every year you have worked you get a raise. Think the limit after 5 years make you end up on 90+SEK/hour. And also, when you work out of ordinary hours(weekdayevenings, saturdays after 12 and sundays) you get extra money for that.

Actually, without even a years experience, you would make about 12,000 SEK or 1600 USD a month. With 2 incomes like that you end up at 38400 USD for one year.

Therefor I find these numbers presented on that site very dodgy and unreliably as it indicates that the swedish median household has an income that is equal to 70% of what 2 persons who just got a job in a lowpayed sector that they have less then a years experience from. I don't say that the numbers are made up, it might be something like that the median american household has 2 incomes(and has to support 4) and the median swedish one only has one income(and has to support 1) wich would twist the favour to the swedes. Such facts about the median households in the both contries aren't presented and are actually, imo atleast, very needed to establish that swedes in some way would be poor.

Ohh... I think that sounded worse than how you ment it, because to me that sounded like norwegian hospitals killed her. :eek:

Yeah, well... the result for me was the same. But don't worry, I'm quite over that now and harbor no ill-will towards Norway.

Yeah well... not much difference to me at the time. But don't worry, I'm quite over that now and harbor no ill-will towards Norway.

Meh Norway are big on their whaling, which can be a bad thing. They have oil though, and that smooths over any international disagreement.

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Ireland, Scotland, Italy or Japan, with Ireland being in the lead.

America

Iceland, I suppose.

Canada, Peru, Holland

Probably Japan, because it would be neat and I could definitely find a biotech company to work for. Other wish-list places would be Australia or Greece.

Maybe (the English-speaking) part of Canada, perhaps Belgium just so I can still speak Dutch and go back to Holland whenever I want to, or else Scandinavia. Everything south of Belgium has inhumane temperatures in the summer :)

Live in sweden, would move to norway or denmark.

Live in Canada. I'm already planning a move to England. My lady lives there.

Switzerland.

I would like to live in France if not my own country, because I can speak the language, and it is such an interesting country.

Currently in America.
Would rather live in any of the following countries:

- Singapore
- Greece
- Switzerland

Canada or Europe would be nice

OK, it was the average income and not living standard.

Now guys, can you document your claim that sweden has the second highest living standard in the world?
Americans earn more money than Swedes, but that's because they get hardly any holidays and work longer hours, not to mention lower US tax rates.

Anywhere is fine versus death that is. ;)

Fantasy says being a novelist in Venice sounds nice.
Primates in Africa.
I kind of liked Stockholm.
Running a pub in York or Ireland. ;)

Hawaii

OK, it was the average income and not living standard.


Oh, btw, you do know the differance between the median of something and the average of something?

Switzerland, for the environment. i like these mountains..
Jamaica.

Germany,Italy,Greece,or Aussieland(Australia)

Probably England.

Why England? it's a shithole

Where do you live,hippy?
:mp5:

Canada, Thailand, Netherlands, the South of France, or New Zealand

England, without a doubt :D ! I love it there.

I don't see any problem in learning a new language, if you really put effort into it you normally should speak a language fluently after a year.

There are many countries I wold move to, the problem is to decide where...

Ireland, Hawaii, New Zealand, a mediteranian country, or should it be Japan, China, Eastern Europe, South Africa or the Maldives? :confused:

Still trying to decide between Canada and Germany

Ukraine, Belarus, or most likely Russia.

Ah, what a question! Czech Republic, for Prague. :)

I would want to go to Japan, Switzerland, or Israel. I like the cultures and laws and geography.

Norway, Ireland, Canada, Fiji, or Italy. Maybe the Netherlands...

I would want to go to Japan, Switzerland, or Israel. I like the cultures and laws and geography.

Believe me, you dont want to go to Israel.

New Zealand because it is beautiful and I can understand the language.

Britain or Australia, because I speak the language (sort of), and they're both beautiful (well, some parts, at least).

Third choice: Mexico, because I speak Spanish and have spent a lot of time there already and know the culture. Some of the nicest people I've ever met live there or are from there.