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Come on you know you do our counrty(the us der :P ) was doing great then sure he got a little freaky in the oval office but i'll bet my wooden teeth so did lincon *wink*

Man when Clinton was in Office we had a Surplus now when Bush went into office 8 Months later we had a Deficate (much to late to be spelling).


BUSH/CHENEY ARE TERRORISTS TG if you want to know y.

dont worry otupia every one deficates its natural and healthy

Man when Clinton was in Office we had a Surplus now when Bush went into office 8 Months later we had a Deficate
Projected surplus.

8 years of more-or-less peace, after the Gulf War, Cold War etc. I say, bring him back for another 8.

I like him and I would most definatly prefer him over GWB, but I still support the term limits. So yay Clinton, but he can't come back.

Clinton is considered to be one of the most effective Presidents of the latter Century....

Bush will one day considered to be one of..if not THE worst.

I like him and I would most definatly prefer him over GWB, but I still support the term limits. So yay Clinton, but he can't come back.
Clinton definitely was a better president than Bush II. will ever be. Clinton is so much more human than the monster the D$A currently have rubbing his fat lazy ass on the throne of the US empire.

Clinton definitely was a better president than Bush II. will ever be. Clinton is so much more human than the monster the D$A currently have rubbing his fat lazy ass on the throne of the US empire.


whats with this "D$A" thing?

okay, I've seen "D$A" several times now, what does it mean?

okay, I've seen "D$A" several times now, what does it mean?
Divided $tates of America. Divided because it is very far from "United" on just about all issues and $tates because of the rampant capitalism and oppression of the people by those who have money.

Divided $tates of America. Divided because it is very far from "United" on just about all issues and $tates because of the rampant capitalism and oppression of the people by those who have money.


Holy crap!

You win the Oscar for "Most Stereotypical Generalization Ever".

Holy crap!

You win the Oscar for "Most Stereotypical Generalization Ever".
Prove me wrong then.

well, now I understand where D$A came from

Prove me wrong then.


Very well.

I make less than 15,000 dollars year, and cant afford to financially repress anyone.


Nice to do business with ya.

Very well.

I make less than 15,000 dollars year, and cant afford to financially repress anyone.


Nice to do business with ya.
"oppression of the people by those who have money"
too bad you are among the 95% who cant oppress someone else due to being obscenely rich. Consider yourself lucky... or unlucky.. depending on what you'd like to do.

"oppression of the people by those who have money"
too bad you are among the 95% who cant oppress someone else due to being obscenely rich. Consider yourself lucky... or unlucky.. depending on what you'd like to do.


woah woah woah.....

Are you calling me obscenely rich?

No. You are not obscenely rich,thus why you cant oppress anyone.

Okay.

Gotcha.

The only people I can financially opress are bums, and even if I tried, they'd just likely throw thier own feces at me, and scare me off.

Man when Clinton was in Office we had a Surplus now when Bush went into office 8 Months later we had a Deficate (much to late to be spelling).


BUSH/CHENEY ARE TERRORISTS TG if you want to know y.
lol the frist year bush was in affice we where running under clitons budget. what do you have to say about that?

lol the frist year bush was in affice we where running under clitons budget. what do you have to say about that?

It's been downhill ever since?

Currently, we have the lowest unemployment rate in the past 10 years. And our unemployment rate is lower now than it was 10 years ago.

Currently, we have the lowest unemployment rate in the past 10 years. And our unemployment rate is lower now than it was 10 years ago.

You do realize you just said two different things. We either have the lowest unemployment rate in 10 years (which means of every year since, we have the lowest rate), or that the rate is lower than in 1994 (which may or amy not be true, I do not have the unemployment figures for 1994 on hand).

Divided $tates of America. Divided because it is very far from "United" on just about all issues and $tates because of the rampant capitalism and oppression of the people by those who have money.

So tell me how the rich are oppressive? do tell :rolleyes:

So tell me how the rich are oppressive? do tell :rolleyes:
"Haves and Have-nots" or as Bush says "Haves and Have-Mores". Seriously, if you cant see how mankind is being exploited by more and more blatantly aggressive corporations with HQs in the U$, then I dont know what else you need.

[QUOTE=The Sword and Sheild]You do realize you just said two different things. We either have the lowest unemployment rate in 10 years (which means of every year since, we have the lowest rate), or that the rate is lower than in 1994 (which may or amy not be true, I do not have the unemployment figures for 1994 on hand).

Eh I did not word it properly, The unemployment rates of 94 were higher than those of 98 but so far in 04 they are lower than 98. I suppose the 94 unemployment rates wernt needed.

"Haves and Have-nots" or as Bush says "Haves and Have-Mores". Seriously, if you cant see how mankind is being exploited by more and more blatantly aggressive corporations with HQs in the U$, then I dont know what else you need.

I need better answers than blatantly aggressive corparations, I need examples.

This went off-topic quickly :)

I need better answers than blatantly aggressive corparations, I need examples.
Corporations strong-arm politicians in other countries just like in the US. It is "either give us cheap workforce or we will move elsewhere". At the rate the US and European countries are losing jobs, China and the like must be a work paradise right now. Corporations want profit, nothing else. Rich people want to see their money increase on its own, nothing else. Rich people will save the grants they get from weak governments and poor people will have no benefit from so called "tax cuts". The oppression is that you must work for whatever price a corporation is willing to pay you, or starve. Many countries have slowly collapsing welfare programs to reduce the most horrible suffering - death from starvation. Corporaitons do not care at all how poor living conditions of their workers are nor how struggling an economy is. They want profit, at least cost. Its modern slavery, nothing else. Government enforced slavery which grows ever stronger, the more globalized the world economy becomes.

[QUOTE=The Sword and Sheild]You do realize you just said two different things. We either have the lowest unemployment rate in 10 years (which means of every year since, we have the lowest rate), or that the rate is lower than in 1994 (which may or amy not be true, I do not have the unemployment figures for 1994 on hand).

Eh I did not word it properly, The unemployment rates of 94 were higher than those of 98 but so far in 04 they are lower than 98. I suppose the 94 unemployment rates wernt needed.

This is mis-leading however, becuase the Unemployment rate in 1998 was falling (it was at 5.8% afaik, today it is 5.5%), from the massive unemployment rates of Reagan/Bush I, today, it is not coming down from anything, it's rising.

Corporations strong-arm politicians in other countries just like in the US. It is "either give us cheap workforce or we will move elsewhere". At the rate the US and European countries are losing jobs, China and the like must be a work paradise right now. Corporations want profit, nothing else. Rich people want to see their money increase on its own, nothing else. Rich people will save the grants they get from weak governments and poor people will have no benefit from so called "tax cuts". The oppression is that you must work for whatever price a corporation is willing to pay you, or starve. Many countries have slowly collapsing welfare programs to reduce the most horrible suffering - death from starvation. Corporaitons do not care at all how poor living conditions of their workers are nor how struggling an economy is. They want profit, at least cost. Its modern slavery, nothing else. Government enforced slavery which grows ever stronger, the more globalized the world economy becomes.

1. Who gives the government the right to strong-arm a corparation. To make them stay in one place.
2. It's not the corparations responsibility to curb poverty, Its the governments.
3. Not everyone works for a corparation.
4. Enlighten me as to what you would do with the rich?

1. Who gives the government the right to strong-arm a corparation. To make them stay in one place.
2. It's not the corparations responsibility to curb poverty, Its the governments.
3. Not everyone works for a corparation.
4. Enlighten me as to what you would do with the rich?
I'm against the uncontrolled capitalism that grips the world more and more. I'd welcome a communist system that is well thought out and encourages humans to work for the "greater good". Star Trek has a good system - the removal of money would be a good start.

Yes, it did go off topic. And i have a few things to say. Im not gonna bad mouth Clinton. He was a good president. So dont say that I said I hated him. He did get us a surplus. He got us jobs. *But* he wasnt a good predident for anything past 9/11. Lets face it, he was a wimp. He had plenty of warnings to terrorist attacks, or so i heard in another link, and he did very little or nothing to stop it. Now i cant say Bush was the greatest president either, but he at least did something, unlike Clinton would have done. Ill admit, sometimes he didnt have the best judgement at times, but look at yourselves! Your running simulations! And dont say thats pointless, because its not. If your accually trying on your simulations and your country is crap you shouldnt say anything. Seriously. Because what do you know? Bush wasnt a bad president, neither was Clinton.

I'm against the uncontrolled capitalism that grips the world more and more. I'd welcome a communist system that is well thought out and encourages humans to work for the "greater good". Star Trek has a good system - the removal of money would be a good start.

Money = Incentive to work and shows your merits. Human nature does not allow communism to exist because humans are naturally greedy and will not settle for fairness for all, all it takes is one charasmatic person to sway the masses against you if things start to go south.

Im a fair person... Though I guess Ive never been exactly normal...

Like most presidents, Clinton had his ups and downs. He was far from perfect. But he sure was horny. I respect that. :D

i think they should get him back 'cos now gwb is in power most of the world are starting to really hate america and that's all thanks to the goverment when mr clinton was in power america was liked by many gwb sets a bad example and is ruining america, it's crap for the people who live there what pisses me off the assasinated a good president an then gwb comes along an does worse an no one does anything not saying he should be killed but america needs a good president take this for example the yellow man is gwb :) :sniper: there we go america is free from him (i wish)

well if it was between clinton and bush i'd certainly rather
have clinton any blessed day of the week

but peter camejo, dennis kusenich or jerry brown are who i'd
really like to see.

more important then who is what, meaning policy,
international, energy, transportation, education,
environment (which energy and transportation are really
insepperable from), health and human services, even
constitution itself.

we need the voters to have the veto power, not some
president, other then in times of real emergency and even
then within limets, we need to NOT have our attourny general
being the president's pet.

we need a government that will conform to international law
and a u.n. with teeth to enforce it.

we need a u.n. that doesn't make the most militarily
powerful nations, our (u.s.) own included, more equal then
others

we need instant runnoff elections instead of an electoral
college, and if we're going to have electronic voting,
people should be able to do that from home over the
internet, in real time, all the time, including realtime
access to what is going on in congress and being able to
put our own two cents in.

we need lots of things
what we don't need is a world dictatorship
run by corporate feudalism
and mafia 'family' values
that mr shrubery seems to be the hood orniment
and poster child, of.

=^^=
.../\...

Well in Europeans it's quiet simple :
When Clinton came to belgium for giving a speach :
The hall was too small for all people who want to hear him speak.
When Bush came to Belgium for giving a speach :
The hall was too small for all the security that must keep the protesters outside.
Europe wants back to United States of America, europe don't like the United States of Agression.

well if it was between clinton and bush i'd certainly rather
have clinton any blessed day of the week

but peter camejo, dennis kusenich or jerry brown are who i'd
really like to see.

more important then who is what, meaning policy,
international, energy, transportation, education,
environment (which energy and transportation are really
insepperable from), health and human services, even
constitution itself.

we need the voters to have the veto power, not some
president, other then in times of real emergency and even
then within limets, we need to NOT have our attourny general
being the president's pet.

we need a government that will conform to international law
and a u.n. with teeth to enforce it.

we need a u.n. that doesn't make the most militarily
powerful nations, our (u.s.) own included, more equal then
others

we need instant runnoff elections instead of an electoral
college, and if we're going to have electronic voting,
people should be able to do that from home over the
internet, in real time, all the time, including realtime
access to what is going on in congress and being able to
put our own two cents in.

we need lots of things
what we don't need is a world dictatorship
run by corporate feudalism
and mafia 'family' values
that mr shrubery seems to be the hood orniment
and poster child, of.

=^^=
.../\... Electoral College is there to give smaller states representation and not letting larger states have all the powers its checks and balances. Most people have no idea about vetoing bills, and having an election on every bill that gos through congress would be ridicoulous and wouldnt be represented by the masses. Canejo and Kucinich are too liberal for America. ( I was amused by Canejo's speach about opening up the borders between California and Mexico)

i think they should get him back 'cos now gwb is in power most of the world are starting to really hate america and that's all thanks to the goverment when mr clinton was in power america was liked by many gwb sets a bad example and is ruining america, it's crap for the people who live there what pisses me off the assasinated a good president an then gwb comes along an does worse an no one does anything not saying he should be killed but america needs a good president take this for example the yellow man is gwb there we go america is free from him (i wish)
Oh my poor head! Please, people, use some thrice damned punctuation. Serj Tankien, that little rant needed something other than that rebellious comma resisting in hiding. I am sorry for griping, but the continual rattling of words just makes my skull feel like it has been filled with ADHD monkeys on cocaine highs and some half-wit decided to give them all jackhammers.

Come on you know you do our counrty(the us der :P ) was doing great then sure he got a little freaky in the oval office but i'll bet my wooden teeth so did lincon *wink*

In answer to your question "Who Wants Clinton Back?" I'll quote my friend Calvin:

"Not me, said the flea; not I, said the fly." :p

Ohh boy, you bet I want Clinton back.

Definately.

I'm going to stop talking before I actually start..

Projected surplus.
FACT:

http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/27/clinton.surplus/

President Clinton announced Wednesday that the federal budget surplus for fiscal year 2000 amounted to at least $230 billion, making it the largest in U.S. history and topping last year's record surplus of $122.7 billion.

"Eight years ago, our future was at risk," Clinton said Wednesday morning. "Economic growth was low, unemployment was high, interest rates were high, the federal debt had quadrupled in the previous 12 years. When Vice President Gore and I took office, the budget deficit was $290 billion, and it was projected this year the budget deficit would be $455 billion."

Why do people keep denying this happened?

lol the frist year bush was in affice we where running under clitons budget. what do you have to say about that?
Yeah and the last 3 years of RECORD deficits are ALL George W. Bush!!

Spend crazy Democrats huh?

http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/27/clinton.surplus/

Man when Clinton was in Office we had a Surplus now when Bush went into office 8 Months later we had a Deficate (much to late to be spelling).


BUSH/CHENEY ARE TERRORISTS TG if you want to know y.
I make a higher wage now then I did when willy was in office, the onyl surplus that interests me is my own bank account.