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Michael Moore vs. Ann Coulter: Who's the bigger bitch?

Siljhouettes
07-08-2004, 00:53
Is it Michael "conservatives are greedy and evil" Moore or do you choose Ann "all liberals are 'potentially treasonable' [not a word] and should be shot" Coulter?

Who's the bigger bitch?

You decide.
Goed
07-08-2004, 00:55
Coulter.

Peopel call Moore fat.

Other people are deathly afraid that Coulter will kill them xD
Mentholyptus
07-08-2004, 00:55
Ann Coulter. And I'd tell it to her face, but I'm afraid she'd tear my throat out with her bare hands. Then shoot me. Cause she's a psychotic bitch.
The Parthians
07-08-2004, 01:00
Is it Michael "conservatives are greedy and evil" Moore or do you choose Ann "all liberals are 'potentially treasonable' [not a word] and should be shot" Coulter?

Who's the bigger bitch?

You decide.

Moore is a little sissy bitch. Coulter is the most qualified person to be president, ever.
Luciferius
07-08-2004, 01:03
Moore is a little sissy bitch.


This site exposes almost every lie in 9/11:http://bowlingfortruth.com/
Johnistan
07-08-2004, 01:06
I'd fuck Coulter, she's probably the hottest nazi conservative ever.

I wouldn't have sex with Moore.
Spoffin
07-08-2004, 01:07
I'd fuck Coulter, she's probably the hottest nazi conservative ever.
I wouldn't, I'd be afraid for the safety of my penis. (frostbite hazard.)
The Parthians
07-08-2004, 01:08
I'd fuck Coulter, she's probably the hottest nazi conservative ever.



She's not a Nazi but she is f**king hot.

And she loves conservatives... I'm conservative as hell.
Kwangistar
07-08-2004, 01:09
I don't think Coulter is extremely hot... and I don't like her personality at all but heh seems like most people here wouldn't care about that ;)

Moore gets my vote
Biff Pileon
07-08-2004, 03:55
Who is the biggest bitch?

Moore man, that dude is fucking HUGE!! I mean he is just a walking coronary waiting to happen. His blood pressure must be through the fucking roof!
Lunatic Goofballs
07-08-2004, 03:59
I don't know about bitch...

But Coulter definitely has larger testicles than Moore. ;)
East Coast Federation
07-08-2004, 04:00
Coulter is a physco, sadistic ,ugly whore.

Moore is fat, So what? At least he doesn't beat down right wingers and much as he SHOULD.
Knight Of The Round
07-08-2004, 04:00
I'd fuck Coulter, she's probably the hottest nazi conservative ever.

I wouldn't have sex with Moore.


hahaha that is funny.
Roach-Busters
07-08-2004, 04:01
If by 'bigger' you mean in terms of size...Moore, all the way. DAMN, is he one fat b@$t@rd!

If, by 'bigger' you mean in terms of b****iness...I'd say it's a tie.
Doluria
07-08-2004, 04:04
Coulter is a physco, sadistic ,ugly whore.

Moore is fat, So what? At least he doesn't beat down right wingers and much as he SHOULD.

What're you babbling about? Moore is a moron. Coulter is freakin' awesome.
East Coast Federation
07-08-2004, 04:10
Coulter is ugly.
I'd rather chop off my balls than have sex with her.


On another note. SHES A FRIGGEN NAZI!
MKULTRA
07-08-2004, 04:11
She's not a Nazi but she is f**king hot.

And she loves conservatives... I'm conservative as hell.
sure shes hot---if you like MEN that is. Did she ever think of shaving that adams apple?
Druthulhu
07-08-2004, 04:22
Ann Coulter is the most pronounced anti-American pundit the right has produced in generations. She would bring back McCarthyism and use it against all who disagree with the one-party system that she thinks is the American way. She is the poster child for the "conservatives are the only real Americans" movement. Sometimes I think Cold Hard "this is why all liberals should be killed" Bitch is Ann Coulter's screen name here.

I would fuck her, if she would consent to four-point restraints... and I would need a volenteer to put in the ball gag.
Kernlandia
07-08-2004, 04:25
I would fuck her, if she would consent to four-point restraints... and I would need a volenteer to put in the ball gag.

if you weren't referring to ann coulter, that statement would be really hot. since it is about her, i am horrified to the depths of my soul.
Druthulhu
07-08-2004, 04:26
if you weren't referring to ann coulter, that statement would be really hot. since it is about her, i am horrified to the depths of my soul.

Damn... no more devil faced smiley :(
Druthulhu
07-08-2004, 04:28
Oh but we do know this: Coulter's penis is bigger than Moore's ;)
Mentholyptus
07-08-2004, 04:33
I would fuck her, if she would consent to four-point restraints... and I would need a volenteer to put in the ball gag.

She'd probably enjoy that...and then tie you up and sodomize you.
Druthulhu
07-08-2004, 04:35
She'd probably enjoy that...and then tie you up and sodomize you.

See that's the point of the restraints... by the time she's loose I'm miles away from there.
Taka
07-08-2004, 04:36
I have multiple personalities, an ultra-conservative who seems to think that I'm a multi-billionair and that Bush will look out for my interests, and an ultra-liberal, who seems to think that I'm a black, single mother of three and that Kerry is interested in looking out for my intrests. I decided to pose this question to them and see if we could get an answer, but they both started to yell and scream, then the biting and kicking started, and then they both started to defecate in thier hands and throw it at each other. I was a little worried but then I realized this is what happens whenver you get people into debates about politics. How about this, we all agree that no matter who we elect, we'll get raped, and just do our civic duty to pick the one we think will represent us the best reguardless of what party they are members of. As for who is the bigger bitch, I say we put them both into a room and let em have it out in open debate. I disagree with everything that Ann says, but at least she's got the balls to get up and speak her convictions. She doesn't speak for America, or at least I would hope that the majority of you are intelegent enough to understand taht conservatives and liberals *well at least those who aren't so wacked out that they would rather bomb the opposition than listen to them, Conservatives, I'm looking at you too, Liberals, you are just as bad, stop laughing.* both want this country to become a better place for Americans in general. Has Bush made mistakes? Certainly, he's a human being. If elected, will Kerry make mistakes? Of course. Does this mean that Kerry/Bush is going to destroy this country and only Bush/Kerry can save it? of course not. Michael Moore's predictions are extreme, and yes, he skews his views to try and draw assumptions in your mind that don't really have any basis, but everything he says, if not everything he insinuates, has evidence to back it up. Before you jump down my throat, I suggest that you read "Dude, Where's My Country" and check out the sources page. Don't take his word for it, look them up yourself. Don't take Bowling for Truth's word for it, research, and research every source. Durring the Iraqi War, I got my news from four sources, CNN, Fox, NPR, and Al Jazeera. Now, do I trust any of them to be telling me the truth, the whole truth and nohting but the truth so help them God? of course not, I'm not stupid. All of them have biases, all of them have reason to slant the news one way or the other. Generaly if I adverage between Fox and Al Jazeera I'll come up with numbers more akin to NPR and CNN, so it works, and I stay more or less informed as to whats going on. Enough for tonight, I'll remove myself from my soap box for tonight. Play nice kiddies, Conservatives, Liberals, if I hear one more peep out of either of you then I'll put the conservative into a Communist rehabilitation room, and the liberal into a Corporative relearning camp.

but, thats just my oppinion, I could be wrong.

Peace with you all.
The Parthians
07-08-2004, 05:11
Ann Coulter is the most pronounced anti-American pundit the right has produced in generations. She would bring back McCarthyism and use it against all who disagree with the one-party system that she thinks is the American way. She is the poster child for the "conservatives are the only real Americans" movement. Sometimes I think Cold Hard "this is why all liberals should be killed" Bitch is Ann Coulter's screen name here.

I would fuck her, if she would consent to four-point restraints... and I would need a volenteer to put in the ball gag.

Coulter is not Anti-American, she loves America. And secondly if you don't know about the Verona papers you wouldn't know that Mc Carthy was right, there was a communist conspiracy.
Independant Turkeys
07-08-2004, 05:29
I see that another "liberal" has started another thread to try and pass off lies as truths. Liberals do not like Ann Coulter because she tears their half truths and lies to shreds with FACTS.

I see the Nazi label is back and I see that the people who use it do not even know the proper definition of it. So, why don't you MOOREONs go back to your little caves and play with your shiny rocks.
Berkylvania
07-08-2004, 05:36
I see that another "liberal" has started another thread to try and pass off lies as truths. Liberals do not like Ann Coulter because she tears their half truths and lies to shreds with FACTS.

Oh good grief, Coulter wouldn't know a fact if it tried to shove a cheesburger into her emaciated, hate-smeared mouth.
Independant Turkeys
07-08-2004, 05:39
Oh good grief, Coulter wouldn't know a fact if it tried to shove a cheesburger into her emaciated, hate-smeared mouth.

So you don't like bony people or just conservative bony people?
Berkylvania
07-08-2004, 05:42
So you don't like bony people or just conservative bony people?

I don't like Coulter and I'm willing to use any ammunition I've got against her.
Kerubia
07-08-2004, 05:48
This thread sucks, but it's still funny.

I say Moore.
Independant Turkeys
07-08-2004, 05:56
I don't like Coulter and I'm willing to use any ammunition I've got against her.

So, far I have only seen blank ammunition.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
07-08-2004, 05:58
So, far I have only seen blank ammunition.
Not like the ammunition the Turkish Troops used while killing kurdish, cypriot and armeinian civilians eh?
Berkylvania
07-08-2004, 06:00
So, far I have only seen blank ammunition.

Oh, I didn't realize this was a debating thread. I thought it was all about one liners and opinionated statements completely divorced from supporting detail.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
07-08-2004, 06:02
Oh, I didn't realize this was a debating thread. I thought it was all about one liners and opinionated statements completely divorced from supporting detail.

Well, The title 'Who's the bigger bitch' doesn't really leave much room for debate :)
Berkylvania
07-08-2004, 06:04
Well, The title 'Who's the bigger bitch' doesn't really leave much room for debate :)

See, that's what I thought. :)
Independant Turkeys
07-08-2004, 06:11
Oh, I didn't realize this was a debating thread. I thought it was all about one liners and opinionated statements completely divorced from supporting detail.


A standard LIBERAL thread.
Independant Turkeys
07-08-2004, 06:17
Not like the ammunition the Turkish Troops used while killing kurdish, cypriot and armeinian civilians eh?


Not even close. It all stinks.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
07-08-2004, 06:26
Not even close. It all stinks.

Yeh, pity we rejected the Annan Plan now, and your going to come into the EU... When was it? Ahh thats right 2090!
Independant Turkeys
07-08-2004, 06:32
Yeh, pity we rejected the Annan Plan now, and your going to come into the EU... When was it? Ahh thats right 2090!

Who has time to read that stuff except the nut cases that wrote it?
Goed
07-08-2004, 07:14
A standard LIBERAL thread.

Fucking liberals, trying to have entertainment at the expense of famous people!
Straughn
07-08-2004, 07:38
I have multiple personalities, an ultra-conservative who seems to think that I'm a multi-billionair and that Bush will look out for my interests, and an ultra-liberal, who seems to think that I'm a black, single mother of three and that Kerry is interested in looking out for my intrests. I decided to pose this question to them and see if we could get an answer, but they both started to yell and scream, then the biting and kicking started, and then they both started to defecate in thier hands and throw it at each other. I was a little worried but then I realized this is what happens whenver you get people into debates about politics. How about this, we all agree that no matter who we elect, we'll get raped, and just do our civic duty to pick the one we think will represent us the best reguardless of what party they are members of. As for who is the bigger bitch, I say we put them both into a room and let em have it out in open debate. I disagree with everything that Ann says, but at least she's got the balls to get up and speak her convictions. She doesn't speak for America, or at least I would hope that the majority of you are intelegent enough to understand taht conservatives and liberals *well at least those who aren't so wacked out that they would rather bomb the opposition than listen to them, Conservatives, I'm looking at you too, Liberals, you are just as bad, stop laughing.* both want this country to become a better place for Americans in general. Has Bush made mistakes? Certainly, he's a human being. If elected, will Kerry make mistakes? Of course. Does this mean that Kerry/Bush is going to destroy this country and only Bush/Kerry can save it? of course not. Michael Moore's predictions are extreme, and yes, he skews his views to try and draw assumptions in your mind that don't really have any basis, but everything he says, if not everything he insinuates, has evidence to back it up. Before you jump down my throat, I suggest that you read "Dude, Where's My Country" and check out the sources page. Don't take his word for it, look them up yourself. Don't take Bowling for Truth's word for it, research, and research every source. Durring the Iraqi War, I got my news from four sources, CNN, Fox, NPR, and Al Jazeera. Now, do I trust any of them to be telling me the truth, the whole truth and nohting but the truth so help them God? of course not, I'm not stupid. All of them have biases, all of them have reason to slant the news one way or the other. Generaly if I adverage between Fox and Al Jazeera I'll come up with numbers more akin to NPR and CNN, so it works, and I stay more or less informed as to whats going on. Enough for tonight, I'll remove myself from my soap box for tonight. Play nice kiddies, Conservatives, Liberals, if I hear one more peep out of either of you then I'll put the conservative into a Communist rehabilitation room, and the liberal into a Corporative relearning camp.

but, thats just my oppinion, I could be wrong.

Peace with you all.
Right on man. An amusing idea of Coulter in bondage ... why not amyl nitrate her and Moore in an intimate bonding setting and see who's really the moral of them?
Straughn
07-08-2004, 07:40
Oh good grief, Coulter wouldn't know a fact if it tried to shove a cheesburger into her emaciated, hate-smeared mouth.
Berk ROCKS!!
BackwoodsSquatches
07-08-2004, 07:44
Ann Coulter is evil.

She hates anyone not like her.

"They should be BOMBED, thier leaders killed, and thier people converted to christianity!"
-Ann Coulter, talking about the people of Afghanistan.


She honestly believes this.
Soviet Haaregrad
07-08-2004, 07:52
Moore makes witty movies.

Coulter is a disease upon humanity and deserves to get flogged to death over many days.
The Black Forrest
07-08-2004, 07:56
Annie hands down.

At least you can punch out moore. Ann? well even with her mouth, it's still wrong to punch her out.....

;)
The Ground State
07-08-2004, 09:02
I'm gonna go with Coulter, seeing as (AFAIK) Moore doesn't even preach ONE murder, let alone a full on memocide (what's that mean? similar to genocide but exterminating based on ideas and beliefs rather than physical traits).
BackwoodsSquatches
07-08-2004, 09:26
Heres some more classic Coulter:

"[Clinton] masturbates in the sinks."---Rivera Live 8/2/99

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01

The "backbone of the Democratic Party" is a "typical fat, implacable welfare recipient"---syndicated column 10/29/99

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."---MSNBC

"Women like Pamela Harriman and Patricia Duff are basically Anna Nicole Smith from the waist down. Let's just call it for what it is. They're whores."---Salon.com 11/16/00

Juan Gonzales is "Cuba's answer to Joey Buttafuoco," a "miscreant," "sperm-donor," and a "poor man's Hugh Hefner."---Rivera Live 5/1/00

On Princess Diana's death: "Her children knew she's sleeping with all these men. That just seems to me, it's the definition of 'not a good mother.' ... Is everyone just saying here that it's okay to ostentatiously have premarital sex in front of your children?"..."[Diana is] an ordinary and pathetic and confessional - I've never had bulimia! I've never had an affair! I've never had a divorce! So I don't think she's better than I am."---MSNBC 9/12/97

"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."---Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99

"I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote."---Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01

"If you don't hate Clinton and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country."---George, 7/99

"We're now at the point that it's beyond whether or not this guy is a horny hick. I really think it's a question of his mental stability. He really could be a lunatic. I think it is a rational question for Americans to ask whether their president is insane."---Equal Time

"It's enough [to be impeached] for the president to be a pervert."---The Case Against Bill Clinton, Coulter's 1998 book.

"Clinton is in love with the erect penis."---This Evening with Judith Regan, Fox News Channel 2/6/00

"I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don't need any more." Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, "Well, before the New Deal...[The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start."---Politically Incorrect 5/7/97

"If they have the one innocent person who has ever to be put to death this century out of over 7,000, you probably will get a good movie deal out of it."---MSNBC 7/27/97

"If those kids had been carrying guns they would have gunned down this one [child] gunman. ... Don't pray. Learn to use guns."---Politically Incorrect, 12/18/97

"The presumption of innocence only means you don't go right to jail."---Hannity & Colmes 8/24/01

"I have to say I'm all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the 'hood to be flogged publicly."---MSNBC 3/22/97

"Originally, I was the only female with long blonde hair. Now, they all have long blonde hair."---CapitolHillBlue.com 6/6/00

"I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn't."---TV Guide 8/97

"Let's say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married."---Rivera Live 6/7/00

"Anorexics never have boyfriends. ... That's one way to know you don't have anorexia, if you have a boyfriend."---Politically Incorrect 7/21/97

"I think [Whitewater]'s going to prevent the First Lady from running for Senate."---Rivera Live 3/12/99

"My track record is pretty good on predictions."---Rivera Live 12/8/98

"The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals."---Washington Post 8/1/00

On Rep. Christopher Shays (d-CT) in deciding whether to run against him as a Libertarian candidate: "I really want to hurt him. I want him to feel pain."---Hartford Courant 6/25/99

"The swing voters---I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster. "---Beyond the News, Fox News Channel, 6/4/00

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."---MSNBC 2/8/97

"You want to be careful not to become just a blowhard."---Washington Post 10/16/98
Goed
07-08-2004, 09:38
actually, the Emancipation Proclamation and the New Deal are two entirely different things.


...yeah, that's it :p
Zerahemnon
07-08-2004, 09:47
Ooooo . . . how fun is this. Another poll just to count liberals/conservatives.

As a conservative, I find Moore and his slanderous drivel to be a waste of time, while I find Ann Coulter to be one of the funniest conservative writers around.

My best friend is flaming liberal (Go figure. Opposites attract), and he see's Coulter as a cold hearted bitch, while Moore is the most enlightened and entertaining people of all time.

Once again it all boils down to one question. Who the hell cares?
BackwoodsSquatches
07-08-2004, 09:53
Ooooo . . . how fun is this. Another poll just to count liberals/conservatives.

As a conservative, I find Moore and his slanderous drivel to be a waste of time, while I find Ann Coulter to be one of the funniest conservative writers around.

My best friend is flaming liberal (Go figure. Opposites attract), and he see's Coulter as a cold hearted bitch, while Moore is the most enlightened and entertaining people of all time.

Once again it all boils down to one question. Who the hell cares?


Michael Moore is an award winning film maker, and a Best selling author....

apparently....lots of people care.
Zerahemnon
07-08-2004, 10:05
Michael Moore is an award winning film maker, and a Best selling author....

apparently....lots of people care.

Coulter is also a best selling author. Does that mean all of them care about Moore being the bigger 'bitch'?

Let me rephrase in a form you might understand.

Who cares about who is the bigger bitch? It all comes down to whether or not you are liberal or conservative. 99% of all liberals will say Coulter, and 99% of all conservatives will say Moore. Its a null point.
BackwoodsSquatches
07-08-2004, 10:15
Coulter is also a best selling author. Does that mean all of them care about Moore being the bigger 'bitch'?

Let me rephrase in a form you might understand.

Who cares about who is the bigger bitch? It all comes down to whether or not you are liberal or conservative. 99% of all liberals will say Coulter, and 99% of all conservatives will say Moore. Its a null point.


You'd be amazed at what I "might understand".
Buggard
07-08-2004, 10:20
I'm not an US citizen and I don't know to much about Ann Coulter. But if she's something like a conservative counterpart of Moore, she has to be something to really stay away from.

I support Bush in what he's doen in Afghniatsan and Iraq, but I don't support anything like the dishonest bullshit of Moore. So if Coulter is like Moore... well.... Shut up bitch! You make everyone supporting Bush look bad.
West - Europa
07-08-2004, 10:20
"Duuh Michael Moore is fat."
So fucking what. Is that all you got?

Coulter is also a best selling author. Does that mean all of them care about Moore being the bigger 'bitch'?

Let me rephrase in a form you might understand.

Who cares about who is the bigger bitch? It all comes down to whether or not you are liberal or conservative. 99% of all liberals will say Coulter, and 99% of all conservatives will say Moore. Its a null point.


Ann Coulter is a best selling author. In the U.S.

Michael Moore is a best selling author and successful film maker. In the whole world.

Every now and then I see Coulter written as "Coultier". Is that her real name? Did she get it changed because it sounds too French?
Znitia
07-08-2004, 10:24
Coulter is also a best selling author. Does that mean all of them care about Moore being the bigger 'bitch'?

Let me rephrase in a form you might understand.

Who cares about who is the bigger bitch? It all comes down to whether or not you are liberal or conservative. 99% of all liberals will say Coulter, and 99% of all conservatives will say Moore. Its a null point.

Then let me be part of the 1%! I won't state what I am. Moore takes literary license and edits his books and documentaries and things within them to convey his point and opinion in the way he thinks. Now, he does NOT do this with everything. It has been found that he tends to be 50-50 on hardcore fact and things that could be considered "frauded". Does this make Moore a liar? No. Deceiver, maybe, but not a liar. Why? The "fraudulant" portions of what he makes is only meant to back his fact for his own good. The Bush Administration has done the same things with things stated about Kerry. No one really goes to do the research or dig the facts in America, and therefore many people believe it all, or just go with their "far right" or "far left" sided views without even caring if it's fact or not and immediately calling it lies.

On the other hand, Coulter does hold some good points. Now, people are calling her a Nazi. This is quite incorrect. She is no Nazi. Nazi does not fit. What all of you misbeguided people whom call her a Nazi mean is that she is fascist. Yes, she is fascist. I am friends with many hardcore liberals and conservatives. Most every conservative has heard of Coulter and has read her books. Even they admit that she is fascist if I myself or others state that she is. This cannot be denied unless you are what I like to call an "extremist" in your political position due to not having your own actual opinion, but a backing that won't be changed due to ignorance or some other sort of random blissful stupidity. Coulter is quite extreme in her views. If she would get off of Clinton and liberal bashing for once, maybe she'd take the time to bash conservatives who have screwed up royally as well. The same applies to Michael Moore bashing liberals who have screwed up, although I have heard him do such in the past. Coulter is too one-sided.

They both have flaws, though Coulter seems to have more than Moore. All the same, people should research and get their facts, or maybe read the books, research material within the books, and do the same with the movies before conveying their opinions onto forums or to others.
Buggard
07-08-2004, 10:24
"Duuh Michael Moore is fat."
So fucking what. Is that all you got?

Since you're asking. He's fat, ugly and dishonest. But he's not stupid, he is smart enough to make a lot of money telling mooreonic Bush-haters what they want to hear.
BackwoodsSquatches
07-08-2004, 10:30
Since you're asking. He's fat, ugly and dishonest. But he's not stupid, he is smart enough to make a lot of money telling mooreonic Bush-haters what they want to hear.


Thats funny, since his last book "Dude, wheres my country" has 27 pages of quotes and sources to back up his claims.
Buggard
07-08-2004, 10:37
Thats funny, since his last book "Dude, wheres my country" has 27 pages of quotes and sources to back up his claims.
So what? Telling just a selected part of the truth supporting your view while leaving out everything opposing your view, is dishonest.

It's dishonest because Moore makes reality look like something he*know is wrong.

Moores is a very skilled manipulator. He knows what he's doing, so he's not stupid. And since he's not stupid, he knows when he's only telling parts of the truth and when he's twisting reality. Therefore he's dishonest.

And some people think that just because some of the facts the dishonesty is built uppon can be documented, it has to be all true and honest. That's just plain mooreonic.
Rosthern
07-08-2004, 11:05
Some food for thought…

Moore is sloppy in his methods and needlessly "plays loose" with facts to advance his points. In that manner, he may be doing more harm than good to the cause that he wishes to advance. Ms. Coulter is just as guilty of doing the same thing. HOWEVER…

In the “wishing for the pain and death for others” department, Coulter has Moore beat hands down. Bill O’Reilly recently asked Moore (on “The O’Reilly Factor) if Michael wished for his death. Moore was quite clear that although he disagreed with Bill’s politics, he did not want him killed.

Coulter, on the other hand, has repeatedly expressed wishes for pain and/or death for her ideological opposites.
The-Libertines
07-08-2004, 11:10
Moore is not the one that wanted to arm school children Coulter is...She was even stupid enough to proclaim that it would prevent another Columbine, yeah alot of children trained with small firearms getting into shoot outs with each other, great idea.
GMC Military Arms
07-08-2004, 11:12
Michael Moore is an award winning film maker, and a Best selling author....

apparently....lots of people care.

'Comrade Stalin is supported by millions, he must be a just and fair leader!'

Love the Appeal To Popularity.
The-Libertines
07-08-2004, 11:14
'Comrade Stalin is supported by millions, he must be a just and fair leader!'

Love the Appeal To Popularity.

Apart from the fact that Moore has no plans to obliterate all who speak against him, Stalin did and Coulter would.
BackwoodsSquatches
07-08-2004, 11:14
So what? Telling just a selected part of the truth supporting your view while leaving out everything opposing your view, is dishonest.

It's dishonest because Moore makes reality look like something he*know is wrong.

Moores is a very skilled manipulator. He knows what he's doing, so he's not stupid. And since he's not stupid, he knows when he's only telling parts of the truth and when he's twisting reality. Therefore he's dishonest.

And some people think that just because some of the facts the dishonesty is built uppon can be documented, it has to be all true and honest. That's just plain mooreonic.



Let me get this straight....

So, according to you...even if Moore's book has 27 pages of nothing but quotes and sources to back up everything he says, and even though anyone can easily look them up for themselves and see that what he says is true..

That hes a liar.

Your living in a cave arent you?

The difference is the context he is writing.

If he mentions a thing that Bush did, he will show you an article in a major newspaper, or television newscast, and give the date that it appeared.

So that you can see for yourself.

If he mentions WHY Bush did the same thing..THATS his own opinion, then isnt it?

It doesnt change the fact that Bush absolutely did the very (hypothetical) thing.
The Most Glorious Hack
07-08-2004, 11:25
If he mentions a thing that Bush did, he will show you an article in a major newspaper, or television newscast, and give the date that it appeared.

Or he'll take a headline for a letter to the editor and photoshop and make it look like a front page headline.

And get sued for it: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000590756
GMC Military Arms
07-08-2004, 11:30
Apart from the fact that Moore has no plans to obliterate all who speak against him, Stalin did and Coulter would.

Um, that'd be the Extended Analogy fallacy.
BackwoodsSquatches
07-08-2004, 11:30
Or he'll take a headline for a letter to the editor and photoshop and make it look like a front page headline.

And get sued for it: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000590756


Right.

Hes getting sued by this paper for the total sum of one dollar.
GMC Military Arms
07-08-2004, 11:39
Right.

Hes getting sued by this paper for the total sum of one dollar.

. <-------The point.


:confused: <---------You
Carinthe
07-08-2004, 11:47
NEW YORK The Pantagraph newspaper in Bloomington, Ill., has sent a letter to Michael Moore, drafted by its lawyer, citing him for copyright infringement, admonishing him for his "unauthorized ... misleading" use of the paper in his film "Fahrenheit 9/11," and asking for an apology.

It is also seeking compensatory damages of exactly one dollar.

"While we are highly flattered to be included in the movie," said the newspaper's President and Publisher Henry Bird, "we are a bit disturbed that our pages were misrepresented."

The size of the compensation was beside the point.
Meulmania
07-08-2004, 11:51
Moore genuinely funny sometimes.

Coulter just scary.
Druthulhu
07-08-2004, 16:03
Coulter is not Anti-American, she loves America. And secondly if you don't know about the Verona papers you wouldn't know that Mc Carthy was right, there was a communist conspiracy.

What... I would need to know about the Verona papers to know that there were soviet spies? Geeze... is that what tipped you off? :rolleyes:

BTW, those papers show that the Rosenbergs did not steal atomic secrets, only that Julius was a spy for non-nuclear matters. But I guess framing and executing them was a patriotic act after all, right?

Of course you probably believe our present situation justifies pissing all over the fifth and sixth Ammendments, since you "love America" and all that. Right?

Ann Coulter's attitudes about what patriotism is and who (three guesses) are the true Americans would make Hitler proud. Not that conservatives are not true Americans and not that saying "one nation under God" is not a form of patriotism, but the problem is that in her jingoistic little world, they are the ONLY ones that are Americans and the ONLY way to be patriotic. I saw her interviewed once and she said that anyone who criticizes the President during a time of war is a traitor and should be treated as one. Does anyone here believe for a 100th of a second that she would have said that if a Democrat had been in office when the planes hit?

The only thing more unamerican than her one-party round-up-the-liberals-who-are-all-criminals-&/or-insane ideology would be a move to return to being a protectorate of the British Crown. If ideas, as she seems to think, could be treason, she should be on death row for her antiamerican drivel. To say that she "loves America" is like saying that the old time slave owners
love freedom". Well yeah, they love their freedom, as I am sure Ann loves the idea of a land where white conservative "Christians" can tell everybody else what family values are and use the Constitution as ass-paper.
The-Libertines
07-08-2004, 17:53
Um, that'd be the Extended Analogy fallacy.

Well it is still true however.
Soffish
07-08-2004, 18:13
Well personally, I would rather listen to someone with more extremist opionons, but correct facts, than someone like Micheal Moore, who has as you liberals say "less extreme views," but is a little wrong and minupulitive with his facts. Check out www.moorelies.com If you search that site you will find countless documented lies by Fatty McFatfat.(Thats Micheal Moore, incase you didnt know;-))
Objectivisism
07-08-2004, 18:22
i'd have sex w/ coulter anyday!
Chess Squares
07-08-2004, 18:25
oh yeah coulter is pro-american, just un-patriotic

if you defy the great ann coulter you are a lying democrap and you are un-american
Avia
07-08-2004, 18:32
Coulter wants to wipe out
Moore wants to change

I'd say Coulter was a bigger bitch.
I can see her definately being one of those girls in 7th grade who backstabbed everyone and was every girls worst nightmare, played teachers pet, and snogged all the guys, then claimed she didn't. Who knows if that actually happened. Just what I can imagine her doing...
Buggard
07-08-2004, 20:48
Let me get this straight....

So, according to you...even if Moore's book has 27 pages of nothing but quotes and sources to back up everything he says, and even though anyone can easily look them up for themselves and see that what he says is true..

That hes a liar.

I have never claimed he's a liar. I say he's dishonest. Moore is not stupid enough to tell downright lies. What he does is tell only half truths, tells the what without the why, tells things out of context, put things in the wrong context etc.

Not downright lies, but very dishonest.


Your living in a cave arent you?

At least it has a nice view.


It doesnt change the fact that Bush absolutely did the very (hypothetical) thing.
Bush did talk about fighting terrorism before turning right to his golf swing. 99.9% of those watching thought it was in relation to 9/11 terrorist attack or al-Qaida. But it was not.

Moore did not lie, he put the truth into the wrong context giving a false impression. That's being dishonest.

How many people do you really think go through all the 27 pages of references? Hardly anybody. But some of those who did have made webpages telling the truth behind the false impressions Moore gave.

In short, if you believe the impressions given by Moores books or movies, you're naive and gullible. Or with a word, a mooreon.
Buggard
07-08-2004, 20:51
Coulter wants to wipe out
Moore wants to change

He does? As far as I can see, Bush created change, and Moore wanted none of that.

Has Moore any real sollutions to anything? (Like Oprah Winfrey for president?)
Getin Hi
07-08-2004, 21:02
Pointless and frankly idiotic threads like this should be deleted.
Grow up everyone.
QahJoh
07-08-2004, 21:59
She's not a Nazi but she is f**king hot.

And she loves conservatives... I'm conservative as hell.

She's neither a Nazi nor hot. She's a psycho-conservative nutjob who looks like her last meal was in 1982.

What're you babbling about? Moore is a moron. Coulter is freakin' awesome.

"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

Oh yeah, nothing says "Awesome" like saying liberals should be intimidated with the threat of execution. :rolleyes:
Bottle
07-08-2004, 22:02
from http://zombiedeathkoala.blogspot.com, a review of Coulter's recent book, Treason:

Ann Coulter isn't even worth insulting. According to pretty much everybody, Coulter is "the leading right-wing pundit" of our time, and if that's true then all I can say is: whoa, sucks to be the right-wing. The woman does nothing more than link various neo-con slogans together into a book-length production and then use her supposedly attractive picture on the cover to get people to pay money for the privilege of reading them. While I admire her ability to make money off the gullibility of the public, I really can't respect anything about her work. As my friend Mike would put it, Coulter isn't funny "ha-ha", she's funny "uh-oh."

The first thing I noticed while reading Treason [Coulter's latest work] was that the three quotes used in the inner flap blurb were all from the first 5 pages of the book; this suggests that even the reviewers, who claimed the book was "even more controversial and prescient" than Coulter's break-out hit Slander, could not keep awake long enough to finish the second half of the first chapter. I know my eyelids started to sag when she accused liberals of "treating enemies like friends and friends like enemies." I guess nobody told Coulter about Bush's "you're with us or against us" speech or his alienation of our allies in the Middle East when he drew the borders of his Axis of Evil with an indiscriminate hand. She must be likewise unaware of that little Republican snafu called the Iran Contra affair, where our Republican administration financially supported a few of America's enemies. Her criticism of liberals for lifting trade sanctions is likewise snore-worthy, since Bush was the one who asked the UN to lift the sanctions against Iraq. Though I suppose that doesn't count any more, since we have accomplished our mission and nobody is dying in combat in Iraq any more, right?

As if all these snoozers weren't enough to leave you begging for the mercy of a quick death, Coulter even pouts about how liberals write nasty things about conservatives in the paper...clearly forgetting that she herself has a column that is pretty much dedicated to saying nasty things about liberals.

I did perk up long enough to laugh out loud when Coulter claimed that "liberals never wage war," however. I'm a little rusty on my history, but I am pretty sure it was Harry Truman, one of those loathsome Democrats, who was the only human being EVER to drop two atomic bombs on a foreign nation. Perhaps that doesn't qualify as warfare...?

There are, of course, the obligatory several chapters spent calling all liberals (or people who agree with liberals, ever) Communists. Coulter takes plenty of time explaining how Joe McCarthy was a true saint for defending America from the godless pinkos, and he has been smeared by an evil liberal conspiracy to doctor history books and vilify him. She re-writes a little history by claiming it was liberals who stopped McCarthy's crusade, when it was actually President Eisenhower who pushed to get the McCarthy hearings televised so the public could see Joe's tactics, and it was the Republican Senate that shut McCarthy down in the censure investigation. She also repeatedly states that the term "McCarthyism" is a made-up liberal buzzword, and "'McCarthyism' never existed," despite the fact that it was the title of McCarthy's own book.

One of the cutest parts of the entire book for me was when, I think in chapter 3, Coulter tries to support her view of history by saying that there is plenty of evidence for the Communist threat to America, thereby vindicating McCarthy and his tactics. The funny part is that said evidence consists of, in Coulter's words, "the detailed accounts given in sworn testimony by various ex-Communists...Chambers’s Pumpkin Papers...Soviet defectors who brought reams of KGB documents with them, identifying Soviet agents in America...There were confessions of arrested spies..." So after spending a chapter and a half talking about how horrid and immoral Communists are, Coulter rests her case entirely upon the word of--you guessed it--COMMUNISTS.

I dozed off and on through several more chapters on the godless Commie lefties, and I think she re-edited our history of the Vietnam War for a chapter or two as well. I won't bore you with more details, since it's pretty much all the same sort of material as I've already covered, except to share the final giggle of the whole story: Coulter concludes her little 14-chapter temper tantrum with the blithe assertion that "Liberals instinctively vote for anarchy and against civilization." I find that interesting, since she dedicated at least a full three chapters to accusing liberals of supporting totalitarianism (in the form of Communism). Very odd, this woman.

I was completely under whelmed by Miss Coulter, having expected more from the "foremost conservative pundit" than the same sort of blathering I heard from some of my classmates in freshman civics. Honestly, her book almost made me convert to liberalism, if only to distance myself as much as possible from such a shoddy writer; I certainly will never call myself a member of any party that can't come up with better than Coulter for a spokeswoman.
Druthulhu
07-08-2004, 22:51
I have never claimed he's a liar. I say he's dishonest. Moore is not stupid enough to tell downright lies. What he does is tell only half truths, tells the what without the why, tells things out of context, put things in the wrong context etc.

Not downright lies, but very dishonest.


At least it has a nice view.


Bush did talk about fighting terrorism before turning right to his golf swing. 99.9% of those watching thought it was in relation to 9/11 terrorist attack or al-Qaida. But it was not.

Moore did not lie, he put the truth into the wrong context giving a false impression. That's being dishonest.

How many people do you really think go through all the 27 pages of references? Hardly anybody. But some of those who did have made webpages telling the truth behind the false impressions Moore gave.

In short, if you believe the impressions given by Moores books or movies, you're naive and gullible. Or with a word, a mooreon.

OK so Moore is a politician ... one who *gasp* spins truth to the advantage of his own views. Coulter is just a rabid lying demogogue.
Miratha
10-08-2004, 03:50
Who?
Purly Euclid
10-08-2004, 03:54
Moore is not only an idiot, but he also makes himself look like a fool in the process. Ann Coulter is also an idiot, but she makes her points in a more sinister, less funny manner than Moore, and looks like Barbie doing it. So I'd have to say that Coulter's the bigger bitch.