NationStates Jolt Archive


The Truth about Republican Principles

The Simple Semples
05-08-2004, 15:52
The Republicans of the United States believe in a Free Market system with little restrictions in order to allow for growth in the innovation of Technology to be spawned by the private sector rather than by the Government, which in turn helps lead to a stronger economy,

If one just looks at the many European nations that have stagnant economies due in large part to their overly expansive social policies, incredibly strong Unions, and a very Hands on Approach by some of these countries respective Governments, one would see the difference between our markets and theirs

If the Conservative leadership is so backwards? Then why would the U.S. still be the leaders of the world in technological innovation?

Republicans believe that individuals should be responsible for their own lives rather than the Government being responsible for theirs

Republicans believe that the most important purpose of the Government is to protect Individuals Rights and maintain the security of the Nation.

We believe in a small efficient central government (though this may never happen) and more State Rights, (because how the hell does a bureaucrat in D.C. exactly know what’s going on in Topeka Kansas?).

Im not some extreme libertarian, I do believe in certain social programs that work and are necessary, yet I ask why Federal government needs to duplicate and administer social programs that the States can handle themselves? The biggest problem with social programs is the large inefficient Bureaucracies which administers them and in part eats a large portion of the
funding. The challenge of administrating social programs is finding the best way to get the money directly to the people whom most need the help. (Who I personally believe are the disadvantaged children)

Republicans believe that everyone is equal and should be treated as such. Wouldn’t it lower ones self esteem to be accepted because of their skin color instead of on the quality of their work?

The Republican party is a strong coalition of Moderates and Conservatives. Rudy Gulianni, representing the Moderate, and Senator Wayne Allard who introduced the Federal Marriage Amendment, representing the conservative. Moderates and Conservative tend to differ on such social issues as Stem Cell Research, Gay Marriage, and so forth. Yet they usually agree on the foriegn policy and economic issues. Governor Bill Owens (R) of Colorado has said that about 30 percent of the Republican party are pro-choice, whether you believe that or not is obviously for you to decide, but I think he knows more than most about his own party.

I applaud anyone who has decided to read my rant, because that means your obviously as bored as I currently am. Whether Republican principles are being enforced by the Current Administration, well that’s a whole other debate.
Terra - Domina
05-08-2004, 15:56
The polorization of the American public into two camps, being either Democrat or Republican, is a compleate and utter mockery of what true democracy believes.
Chess Squares
05-08-2004, 16:04
The Republicans of the United States believe in a Free Market system with little restrictions in order to allow for growth in the innovation of Technology to be spawned by the private sector rather than by the Government, which in turn helps lead to a stronger economy,
aka they believe that rich people run the world

If one just looks at the many European nations that have stagnant economies due in large part to their overly expansive social policies, incredibly strong Unions, and a very Hands on Approach by some of these countries respective Governments, one would see the difference between our markets and theirs
yeah ours has out of control rampant corporations lying and stealing and cheating their way to the top at the expense of every member of society

If the Conservative leadership is so backwards? Then why would the U.S. still be the leaders of the world in technological innovation?
thats right, japan doesnt exist

Republicans believe that individuals should be responsible for their own lives rather than the Government being responsible for theirs
meaning, its not the governments job to do its job, and its also funny ebcause conservatives have all tehse watch dog groups

Republicans believe that the most important purpose of the Government is to protect Individuals Rights and maintain the security of the Nation.
which is funny because those are contradictory objectives as appleid to republicans

We believe in a small efficient central government (though this may never happen) and more State Rights, (because how the hell does a bureaucrat in D.C. exactly know what’s going on in Topeka Kansas?).
they believe they shouldnt be doing their job again (and the same way i know whats going on in topeka kansas, i woudl read the news)

Im not some extreme libertarian, I do believe in certain social programs that work and are necessary, yet I ask why Federal government needs to duplicate and administer social programs that the States can handle themselves? The biggest problem with social programs is the large inefficient Bureaucracies which administers them and in part eats a large portion of the
funding. The challenge of administrating social programs is finding the best way to get the money directly to the people whom most need the help. (Who I personally believe are the disadvantaged children)
yes beauarcarcy sucks, good job, you get one point, but hte way you state it is funny again, the challenge is getting moeny to the people, but you believe in giving the power to the states, giving the moeny ot the states is falling on the hard side of getting money to the people

Republicans believe that everyone is equal and should be treated as such. Wouldn’t it lower ones self esteem to be accepted because of their skin color instead of on the quality of their work?
which is why they support racial profiling and the capitalist class system, everyone is equal when they are poor
The Simple Semples
05-08-2004, 16:30
The patriot act, a bipartisan passed piece of legislation, preserves the rights of the individual as well as maintains the security of the nation. Give some evidence in where the Patriot act has been infringed on or civil liberties? After three years of being inacted can you give me any specific evidence or problem with the act? Have you actually ever read it?

Ah you have a problem with capatilism do you? How much of your own money have you distributed to everyone else? Those interpreted "rich" by the tax code are more thousand airs than the very few million airs who exist in this country, those who make 29,000 to 70,000 have 25 percent of every dollar they earn taxed by the Federal Government, then they have to deal with State taxes and so forth. You think these people are rich? Im sorry that Bushes tax cuts gave 90,000,000 people on average, about $1000 back into their pockets. When was giving money back the people such a crime?

And obviously you dont understand that its impossible to eliminate the govermnet beuarcracy because their needs to be some sort of mechnaisim to distribute the money. I believe in reforming them by triming it down and finding more effective ways for them to operate. Why not have state governments, who know their own state better that the federal government, do it themselves. And you obviously dont understand that State Goverments have their own programs that are unessesarily being duplicated and adminsitered by the Federal government.

And its also ironic that you want to get rid of beuracracy yet you believe in a system that only expands it. Command Economics only cause more people to exist in poverty, I.E. China which has adapted a Captalistic Form of economics because there was no way else of competing with the world as well as apeasing their own people other than by improving the Chinese peoples quality of life

Hmmm, lets look at the last Bastion of Communisim, North Korea. Oh yea theres a country in where peoples rights are respected and people live in properity, talk about a brutal society in where millions are starving and live in poverty, and anyone who dissents is thrown into work camps.

Yeah Communisim works, it only has killed 100 million people, lets give it another try.
Chess Squares
05-08-2004, 20:35
i am familiar with the patriot act and whats in it, it is the biggest threat to civil rights since the alien and sedition acts

and those people who make 70k and get taxes 25 cents per dollar they still have more than a majority of the people in that tax bracket



and he gave people money back. well good job, that would be great accept for the fact he decided to start spending twice as much as previous, and that was before starting a war. the tax break was a political move to make him look good, it hurts the nation and ultimately the people


i dont understand beuacracy? you suggest giving all money to the states instead of adminsitering it directly yet you shun adding more beauracracy and want to help people get the money, HELLO THESE IDEAS ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE

the best damn way to give money ditrectly to the peoplew h oneeds it most is TO GIVE MONEY DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT MOST. not the damned state governments and then sit back and pretend they will be fair and kind.

i say we streamline programs and cut unnecesary ones, you are the one suggesting we ignore that and jsut give money to the states and let them "fix it"

and how many people has capitalism killed? oh yeah its just as many if not more than communsi. and north korea is not communism, its communism like russia was: a fascist mockery of communsim used by the self righteous americans to play pretend that capitalism is so fucking great

and as a side note


is it just me or do republicans like to ignore the core problem and throw around guilt trips and general money programs to fix the thing they are completely ignoring and get their programs enacted
Antebellum South
05-08-2004, 20:38
thats right, japan doesnt exist

The USA has better science and higher education than Japan.
Sumamba Buwhan
05-08-2004, 20:43
The USA has better science and higher education than Japan.

source?
Geffland
05-08-2004, 20:49
source?
nationalism
West - Europa
05-08-2004, 20:58
I said it before and I'll say it again: economy isn't everything.
AnarchyeL
05-08-2004, 21:10
I said it before and I'll say it again: economy isn't everything.


Well said. I'm new to these boards, and I've been waiting for signs of rational thought for some time now...

Sooner or later, people (and that includes economists) will have to come to grips with the fact that there are real limits to growth, and the related fact that the entire world CANNOT live like the United States. In fact, the United States cannot even live like the United States for much longer without its waste and consumption running the planet to ruin.