NationStates Jolt Archive


Ex-Lover Wants Contact With Letourneau

_Susa_
04-08-2004, 23:59
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,127974,00.html


What the hell?
Spoffin
05-08-2004, 00:02
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,127974,00.html


What the hell?
Erm, what case is there for not letting her?
Purly Euclid
05-08-2004, 00:05
Erm, what case is there for not letting her?
She's a convicted sex offender, and that's her victim. At the age of their affair, this kid was probably emmotionally underdeveloped, like many eleven year-olds. He feels dependency towards her, and any child psychologist will tell you that's dangerous. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, but it is the legal implications of statutory rape in the US.
Spoffin
05-08-2004, 00:07
She's a convicted sex offender, and that's her victim. At the age of their affair, this kid was probably emmotionally underdeveloped, like many eleven year-olds. He feels dependency towards her, and any child psychologist will tell you that's dangerous. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, but it is the legal implications of statutory rape in the US.
Yeah, but he's not a child now, right?
Incertonia
05-08-2004, 00:07
There;s nothing illegal about any contact they would have now--he's 21 and she's done her time. If it were a condition of her parole that she stay away from him, that would be a different story, but she's not on parole now, as faras I understand. She's just done her time. So if they want to get together, that's their business.
Johnistan
05-08-2004, 00:09
Jesus, he just wants to fuck his teacher.

I think we've all been there. There's always a really hot teacher you want to fuck.
Purly Euclid
05-08-2004, 00:10
Yeah, but he's not a child now, right?
Yeah, but as far as I know, a condition of her release was no further contact between the two. It was probably concieved by the judge more as an extension of the sentence, I believe. But that's just what I'm seeing.
Colodia
05-08-2004, 00:11
Jesus, he just wants to fuck his teacher.

I think we've all been there. There's always a really hot teacher you want to fuck.
get...outta...MY HEAD!

*smacks self*

whew...that's better
Sumamba Buwhan
05-08-2004, 00:12
i think its an interesting love story.

I hope they get to see each other. What bad could come from it?
Johnistan
05-08-2004, 00:13
get...outta...MY HEAD!

*smacks self*

whew...that's better

I don't know about you, but I my Chemistry teacher was Ms. Cito. One hot 26 year old, one really hot 26 year old.
Purly Euclid
05-08-2004, 00:14
i think its an interesting love story.

I hope they get to see each other. What bad could come from it?
A lot of juicy tabloid stories?
Colodia
05-08-2004, 00:14
i think its an interesting love story.

I hope they get to see each other. What bad could come from it?
well uh...disturbed neighbors, four children of the teacher before this relationship that're now disturbed as well...as well as two kids from that former 12 year old who are living with their Grandmother...you can imagine how THEY feel....

Well what the hell....who knows what they feel? They're both over 18 now...
Incertonia
05-08-2004, 00:24
I've read the story three times now and I have to admit I'm still confused--I don't understand how a judge can issue a non-contact order when both parties are adults and wish to see each other. The story says that LeTourneau was released from prison but doesn't say whether it was because she finished her time or if she's on parole--that's a pretty significant detail to leave out of a story like this. The inference is that she's served her time, since they date the offence to 1997 and say she was sentenced to seven and a half years.

About the only thing I can figure is that there must be some law that applies strictly to sex offenders that allows a judge to keep them from contacting their former victims, which makes sense--but if the victim wants the contact, I can't see how a judge can force them to be apart.

It's a royally fucked up situation, that's for certain.
Sliders
05-08-2004, 00:32
well uh...disturbed neighbors, four children of the teacher before this relationship that're now disturbed as well...as well as two kids from that former 12 year old who are living with their Grandmother...you can imagine how THEY feel....

Well what the hell....who knows what they feel? They're both over 18 now...
I think it would be good for their kids to be raised by their two parents...Although at this point they are getting pretty old...They're both adults, who's the government to say that they shouldn't see each other?
Meatopiaa
05-08-2004, 00:32
it's just another episode of Jerry Springer.

move along folks, nothing to see here
Katganistan
05-08-2004, 00:34
As a teacher....


EWWWWWWWWWWW! What kind of immature, mentally unstable person wants to be with an eleven year old child? Heck, sometimes *adult* males are too immature for words!

What kind of whack job goes to prison for six months, then is caught having relations in her car with the child she was sent to prison for having sexual relations with????

This woman -- and her "partner" -- need some heavy duty counseling.
Galtania
05-08-2004, 00:38
I don't think it is constitutional for the government to keep them apart, if both want to be together. However, would some of the people who agree with me still feel the same way if the convicted sex offender were a man and the victim a woman?
Incertonia
05-08-2004, 00:42
I don't think it is constitutional for the government to keep them apart, if both want to be together. However, would some of the people who agree with me still feel the same way if the convicted sex offender were a man and the victim a woman?For me, the genders of the people involved are irrelevant. The question has to be one of personal desire. If the two people want to see each other, fucked up as that may be, then there oughtn't be any law keeping them apart, as long as both are of age. If a victim wants to keep the offender far, far away, then the victim ought to have that right, considering how heinous the crime of child rape is.
Galtania
05-08-2004, 00:57
For me, the genders of the people involved are irrelevant. The question has to be one of personal desire. If the two people want to see each other, fucked up as that may be, then there oughtn't be any law keeping them apart, as long as both are of age. If a victim wants to keep the offender far, far away, then the victim ought to have that right, considering how heinous the crime of child rape is.

I agree. I just brought up the gender reversal because it does give some people pause; more insight into the nature of the crime, I guess.
_Susa_
05-08-2004, 01:00
Erm, what case is there for not letting her?
I have no beef with any of those people, but the fact that the guy who got raped wants to be back with her? That is so weird!
_Susa_
05-08-2004, 01:01
Jesus, he just wants to fuck his teacher.

I think we've all been there. There's always a really hot teacher you want to fuck.
LOL! Hot for teacher!
Incertonia
05-08-2004, 01:05
I have no beef with any of those people, but the fact that the guy who got raped wants to be back with her? That is so weird!It was rape in the statutory use of the word, but by all indications, it was still consensual sex, as consensual as sex with a sixth grader can be, that it. (Please don't jump on me for that statement--I know that no child can fully consent to that kind of relationship. I'm just saying the sexual contact was not forcible.) It's a mindfuck of a situation.
Enodscopia
05-08-2004, 01:15
I think if he wants to meet her let him hes a full grown adult.
_Susa_
05-08-2004, 01:19
It was rape in the statutory use of the word, but by all indications, it was still consensual sex, as consensual as sex with a sixth grader can be, that it. (Please don't jump on me for that statement--I know that no child can fully consent to that kind of relationship. I'm just saying the sexual contact was not forcible.) It's a mindfuck of a situation.
Yes, I guess you are right. But that is one helluva story.
Purly Euclid
05-08-2004, 01:43
Yes, I guess you are right. But that is one helluva story.
Indeed. This is even weirder than what some of those soap operas can think of. And I'm sure that some psychologist close to the case has built an entire career around this incident.
_Susa_
05-08-2004, 01:43
Indeed. This is even weirder than what some of those soap operas can think of. And I'm sure that some psychologist close to the case has built an entire career around this incident.
Yea, not even a tabloid could make up something this weird.