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I'm wondering if how many direct examples between different world religions there are of things that flatly contradict one another. Like, if it says in the Bible that god takes many forms, but it says in the Qu'ran that god is indivisble. More obvious examples are having only one god in Judaisism, Christianity and Islam, and multiple or many-faceted gods in Hinduism. Sortof like, if you accept the claim tham that all religions are right (spiritual relativism), what examples are there that prove this false?

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there are more contradctions than there are religions.

Hell, they even contradict themselves.

Religion is not the door to spirituality... it is a path and all paths lead up the same mountain. Some are just a little faster and others dont quite reach the top.

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I don't see it...

Spoken like someone who thinks they know everything. I find this flaw in your logic. Christianity leads to Heaven (your mountain), yet Satanic Cults lead to Hell (the opposite of Heaven). I fail to see how these are leading to the same thing. Way to contradict yourself.

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neither do i.


of course this is the same guy who insists that hindhus preform human sacrifice...

All roads lead to Rome.

ok, first (really obvious) contradiction, this one goes out to everyone who's ever claimed that Jews, Christians, and Muslims all believe in the same god.

The origins of the Jewish god are found in earlier mesopotamian pantheism. While Ba'al was worshipped foremost among the pantheon, he was not senior- that role belonged to El. Ba'al was god of the Kings, god of grain.. the guy you worshipped to make sure you didn't starve. Disenfranchised, the earliest Jews turned their attention to El. Name changes happened later.

So we've established that there were many gods recognized by the oldest of the major monotheistic religions. Very well.

Christianity, as you all certainly know, claims the same god, but splits him up into three parts. Why you need the Holy Ghost, I still don't know. But apparently the other gods recognized by early Jews (though not revered by them) never existed, and one god was actually three-in-one. Note too that Ba'al was not forgotten- everyone remember Baelzebub? I thought so. Nice transistion, Christians.

And Islam? Allah isn't even close to starting in the same place. Allah was part of a family of gods, worshipped at a shrine in Mecca. That shrine was owned by Mohammed's relatives... any guesses what it was? Large, black, stone, still there... that's right! It's the Kaaba was a pagan shrine first. Mohammed picked Allah, and his family (god-wife and god-kids, actually) got forgotten fairly quickly.

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I absolutely love his first analogy.

Saying that other religions might have a point is exactly like asking your pilot to slam the plane into a wall.

First, there are monotheist religions and polytheist religions. First contradiction: Is there one or many god?

Second, reincarnation vs resurection. You can't very well come back in a different body and be resurected at the end of time. If the both are true, how do you choose your body when it's time to resurect?

Third, is the god all-encompassing and everywhere (catholicism) or is he inside of us and should be purified (buddhism).

Fourth, is he a vengefull god (old testament) or a benevolent god (new testament)?

More to follow when I have the time to look into it.

Buddhism is actually a nontheistic belief, in the sense that they don't worship a God or gods. However, the existence of God or the gods can easily fit into their doctrine if you want; it's just not important. In the end of the day, Buddhism is about releasing your grasp on the material and trivial to avoid suffering, about the inter-connectedness of all things and adopting a way of Meditation, morality and Wisdom. Creationism, fate or whatever doesn't really matter; if you need the answer, you'll find it through thought and consideration.

In that respect, it could very much co-exist with other religious doctrines. So... Wewt. ^^

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Oh, blah. I didn't realize this was Jack Chick before I clicked on it. While I'm not opposed to some good humor once in awhile, I have to be in the mood. Warn a guy next time. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go boil my eyeballs in hydrochloric acid.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not try to work together as equals with unbelievers, for it cannot be done. How can right and wrong be partners? How can light and darkness live together? How can Christ and the Devil agree? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? How can God's temple come to terms with pagan idols? For we are the Temple of the living God!

And Islam? Allah isn't even close to starting in the same place. Allah was part of a family of gods, worshipped at a shrine in Mecca. That shrine was owned by Mohammed's relatives... any guesses what it was? Large, black, stone, still there... that's right! It's the Kaaba was a pagan shrine first. Mohammed picked Allah, and his family (god-wife and god-kids, actually) got forgotten fairly quickly.

you obviously havnt read the Qu'ran have you? The Ka'aba was a pagan shrine. Than Gabriel told Muhammed that the only true god was Allah...so muhammed purified the stone. And here's a thing...It says in the qu'ran that Islam is just a continuation of Christianity and Judaism...It corrects what they had wrong.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not try to work together as equals with unbelievers, for it cannot be done. How can right and wrong be partners? How can light and darkness live together? How can Christ and the Devil agree? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? How can God's temple come to terms with pagan idols? For we are the Temple of the living God!

That is misguided. I'm sorry, yes it's scripture, but you have to work together with your audience in order to truly evangelise. Besides, Light and darkness thrive on the presence of each other, Christ and the Devil agreed when Satan said that Jesus was the "Son of God" during the period of temptation and believers and unbelievers are connected through their birth in humanity. I can't refute the Temple/Pagan difference, since that's kinda against doctrine and all that, but christians need to realise that working together with unbelievers is the only way to resolve and/or accept their differences.

That is misguided. I'm sorry, yes it's scripture, but you have to work together with your audience in order to truly evangelise. Besides, Light and darkness thrive on the presence of each other, Christ and the Devil agreed when Satan said that Jesus was the "Son of God" during the period of temptation and believers and unbelievers are connected through their birth in humanity. I can't refute the Temple/Pagan difference, since that's kinda against doctrine and all that, but christians need to realise that working together with unbelievers is the only way to resolve and/or accept their differences.


2 Corinthians 6:14 Do NOT try to work together as equals with unbelievers, for it cannot be done. How can right and wrong be partners? How can light and darkness live together? How can Christ and the Devil agree? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? How can God's temple come to terms with pagan idols? For we are the Temple of the living God!

Why look at contradictions between religions when you can look at the contradictions in one religion? If you look at the contradictions between two different religions you can have an endless list.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Do NOT try to work together as equals with unbelievers, for it cannot be done. How can right and wrong be partners? How can light and darkness live together? How can Christ and the Devil agree? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? How can God's temple come to terms with pagan idols? For we are the Temple of the living God!

Then update your dogma once every two thousand years or so. What is God to you? Some sort of divine J.D. Salinger who drops a work of great importance on us some two thousand years ago and then hasn't been heard from since?

And Islam? Allah isn't even close to starting in the same place. Allah was part of a family of gods, worshipped at a shrine in Mecca. That shrine was owned by Mohammed's relatives... any guesses what it was? Large, black, stone, still there... that's right! It's the Kaaba was a pagan shrine first. Mohammed picked Allah, and his family (god-wife and god-kids, actually) got forgotten fairly quickly.

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I find no conflict between the three divine religions or within Islam.. Please catch me on MSN if you would like so we can discuss this further.. I love discussing these subjects, and finding flaws within other peoples' arguments (and possibly within my own).

Then update your dogma once every two thousand years or so. What is God to you? Some sort of divine J.D. Salinger who drops a work of great importance on us some two thousand years ago and then hasn't been heard from since?
That is based on the Religion. My religion is a Living one(Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints), we have a prophet and get God's words. After all, the Cross shouldn't be the focus. I'd say the Open Tomb was way more important.
Its not that he died but that HE LIVES!

Oh and my personal belief is the Holy Ghost is the collective Consciousness of Heaven: after all if you've been in Heaven then you know the way there.