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You Have No Right To Say "Yo can't enforce your religous belifes

Vapmire
04-08-2004, 16:38
Really You cant becasue my religon machtes my Ethical Belifes So Here We Go, Cool Lets Go Legalize EVERTHING No Taxs Complete Anarchy Woot Party Down Excuse me While I MUg Bill Gates.
The-Libertines
04-08-2004, 16:42
*blink* Erm...Well yes we do as society and goverment should be secular to provent oppression of minority religions.
Berkylvania
04-08-2004, 16:42
Hey Ma! Look at me! I'm on the Internet!!!!
Wehling
04-08-2004, 16:45
Hey Ma! Look at me! I'm on the Internet!!!!
hey me too
BoogieDown Production
04-08-2004, 16:46
You cant enforce your ethical beliefs on me either, nobody has elected you king.
ThreadAssassins
04-08-2004, 16:46
You're allowed to hold your own religion and ignore the persuasion of other sects, provided that your religious beliefs don't conflict with the ethical beliefs of the society you live in. Otherwise, you get put in jail.

That's common sense. You have a problem with it, go make your own society on a little island somewhere with whatever the heck ethical beliefs you like.
Vigzland
04-08-2004, 16:48
you enforce your religious beliefes as much as you like luv, just dont expect anyone to take any notice.
Vapmire
04-08-2004, 16:49
You're allowed to hold your own religion and ignore the persuasion of other sects, provided that your religious beliefs don't conflict with the ethical beliefs of the society you live in. Otherwise, you get put in jail.

That's common sense. You have a problem with it, go make your own society on a little island somewhere with whatever the heck ethical beliefs you like.
Well Since I can't Enforce Send neither Can You. Well Okay But If I Am A Jew No Opressing My Muder. No realy I Will Stone You. Mah Mah You Adulturing Bastards You.
Hakartopia
04-08-2004, 16:50
You cant enforce your ethical beliefs on me either, nobody has elected you king.

"You don't vote for kings..."
"Well how'd you become one then?"
Vapmire
04-08-2004, 16:50
You're allowed to hold your own religion and ignore the persuasion of other sects, provided that your religious beliefs don't conflict with the ethical beliefs of the society you live in. Otherwise, you get put in jail.

That's common sense. You have a problem with it, go make your own society on a little island somewhere with whatever the heck ethical beliefs you like.
So Basicly I must Adapt To All Groups But They Don't Have To, Adapt Me.
Ernst_Rohm
04-08-2004, 16:51
you enforce your religious beliefes as much as you like luv, just dont expect anyone to take any notice.


well if you are actually enforcing people will pretty much have to take notice(otherwise you'll boot 'em in the teeth again, now won't you).
Berkylvania
04-08-2004, 16:51
No "Opressing" your "Muder." Got it. What about your "Fader?" How are things at Camp Grenada?
El-Shaladan
04-08-2004, 16:54
Two words: Laugh Riot. :D
Vapmire
04-08-2004, 16:54
No "Opressing" your "Muder." Got it. What about your "Fader?" How are things at Camp Grenada?
well Duh Ethics Are Directly Related To Religon So Go To Hell you NONE Stoning Bastards
Sarzonia
04-08-2004, 16:55
Really You cant becasue my religon machtes my Ethical Belifes So Here We Go, Cool Lets Go Legalize EVERTHING No Taxs Complete Anarchy Woot Party Down Excuse me While I MUg Bill Gates.

Umm, that little thing called "free speech"? It gives me the right to say you can't enforce your religious beliefs on me. The right to free association? That gives me the right not to listen to you. "Freedom of religion" also includes my right to believe whatever religion I choose to in whatever way I choose to.
Vapmire
04-08-2004, 16:56
You People are SO hypocritical
The-Libertines
04-08-2004, 16:57
You People are SO hypocritical

You are a troll. Please get back under the bridge before the big billy goat comes along.
Merdonia
04-08-2004, 16:57
Vampire, I think I completly missed the point of your arguement
Vigzland
04-08-2004, 16:57
well if you are actually enforcing people will pretty much have to take notice(otherwise you'll boot 'em in the teeth again, now won't you).
i more ment, you cant make people take it in and change to suit it.
ofcourse people would take notice, and probably end up seriously hurting someone.
Vapmire
04-08-2004, 16:58
Umm, that little thing called "free speech"? It gives me the right to say you can't enforce your religious beliefs on me. The right to free association? That gives me the right not to listen to you. "Freedom of religion" also includes my right to believe whatever religion I choose to in whatever way I choose to.
Go Be HOMOSXUAL I won't do anything but changing marriage is not very smart you SINFUL ADulturers
Vapmire
04-08-2004, 16:59
i more ment, you cant make people take it in and change to suit it.
ofcourse people would take notice, and probably end up seriously hurting someone.
Ahu But you can I get It now Unless I Agree I am Evil.
The-Libertines
04-08-2004, 16:59
Go Be HOMOSXUAL I won't do anything but changing marriage is not very smart you SINFUL ADulturers

HOMOSXUAL? Also they are not ADulturers since they are not married at all which is precisly their problem.
Berkylvania
04-08-2004, 17:01
HOMOSXUAL? Also they are not ADulturers since they are not married at all which is precisly their problem.

Do "ADulturers" have extra-marital relations, but lose interest in them more quickly?
Vapmire
04-08-2004, 17:01
HOMOSXUAL? Also they are not ADulturers since they are not married at all which is precisly their problem.
No, No You Idoits adultry Means Having sex with someone not promised to you. and promised means engaged nowin days.
Berkylvania
04-08-2004, 17:02
NONE Stoning Bastards

Excellent band name.
East Canuck
04-08-2004, 17:04
*comes in thread. Plant a sign that says*

Please do not feed the troll.

*then leaves"
BoogieDown Production
04-08-2004, 17:04
Vampire, I think I completly missed the point of your arguement


The name is "Vapmire" thank you very much
The-Libertines
04-08-2004, 17:05
No, No You Idoits adultry Means Having sex with someone not promised to you. and promised means engaged nowin days.

Well what about people who have gay marriages?
Vigzland
04-08-2004, 17:06
Go Be HOMOSXUAL I won't do anything but changing marriage is not very smart you SINFUL ADulturers

1. learn to spell
2. why cant homosexuals marry? whats wrong with it? i still fail to understand.
3. sinfull.. you say it like its a bad thing.
ThreadAssassins
04-08-2004, 17:07
So Basicly I must Adapt To All Groups But They Don't Have To, Adapt Me.

You have to adapt to any group you're a part of. Just like anyone who joins your group has to adapt to you.

If you don't like being forced to adapt, then leave the group.

That's all there is to it. You can be as anarchic as you like when there's nobody around to arrest you, be offended by you or care in the least.
Druthulhu
04-08-2004, 17:26
No, No You Idoits adultry Means Having sex with someone not promised to you. and promised means engaged nowin days.

No no no you quasi-literate jackass "adultery" means having sex with someone else when you are married to someone. Biblically it included doing it while engaged. If neither you nor your partner is promised to anyone else, and you are both adults, neither the civil laws of our society nor the Bible has any laws against you fucking like rabbits in heat.

And you don't have to conform to anybody's ethics, only to the law of the land. If you can't get enough support to have your assinine ethics enshrined in law, too fucking bad and suck on it. Suck it long. Suck it hard.

My ethics require me to take all of your money and use your body for food. I am prevented from doing this. Am I being oppressed?

You would probably say "yes" but only because you are a stupid little troll who never got enough attention from his Muder and his Fader. Please do us all a favour and write back when you get your G.E.D.
Sliders
04-08-2004, 17:39
Really You cant becasue my religon machtes my Ethical Belifes So Here We Go, Cool Lets Go Legalize EVERTHING No Taxs Complete Anarchy Woot Party Down Excuse me While I MUg Bill Gates.
you seem to be confused
you can say as often as you want "THIS IS BAD BECAUSE MY RELGION SAYS SO"
and we can say "Well, we don't care what your religion says"
what you CAN'T do is make a law saying that we all must follow your religious beliefs
ThreadAssassins
04-08-2004, 17:43
If neither you nor your partner is promised to anyone else, and you are both adults, neither the civil laws of our society nor the Bible has any laws against you fucking like rabbits in heat.

You know, I thought there'd be something against that, but I haven't been able to find anything that specifically outlines pre-marital sex. There's a lot of reference to "Sexual Sins", but nothing specifically referring to that particular practice beyond "A guy who tricks an unmarried virgin woman into sleeping with him has to marry her and pay her folks the dowry" (paraphrased).

Bizarre...
Eastbourne Road
04-08-2004, 17:49
well Duh Ethics Are Directly Related To Religon So Go To Hell you NONE Stoning Bastards

Because stoning makes you clever doesn't it?
Kimchaka
04-08-2004, 17:49
Maybe it's just me, but I have no idea where Vapmire, or however the hell one spells it is getting this from, and that there is no clear or relevant point he or she or it is trying to make. I probably missed it, what with the confusing and non-sensical sentences he has or the over-use of capitalization. Something about freedom and how he's not letting people be free is all I got.

Delegate to Forums
James Johns
Rogue Nation of Kimchaka
El-Shaladan
04-08-2004, 17:54
I gotta tell ya, guys, I was feeling a little blue today. It's kinda cold and rainy outside, and I'm at work, etc, etc.

But Vapmire has certainly remedied that, haven't you, you gibbering monkey? I can't stop laughing and my cube-mates are looking at me like I'm totally nuts.
Lex Terrae
04-08-2004, 17:56
This thread sucks. Later.
Elite Donkeys
04-08-2004, 17:56
you enforce your religious beliefes as much as you like luv, just dont expect anyone to take any notice.

Your not really enforcing them then are yoy?
Sheilanagig
05-08-2004, 00:40
i Cant spel Eethur, and I sprnkle Captiel letrs Al ovur teh Plase.
Peopleandstuff
05-08-2004, 06:06
You know, I thought there'd be something against that, but I haven't been able to find anything that specifically outlines pre-marital sex. There's a lot of reference to "Sexual Sins", but nothing specifically referring to that particular practice beyond "A guy who tricks an unmarried virgin woman into sleeping with him has to marry her and pay her folks the dowry" (paraphrased).

Bizarre...
"If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her,
And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid:...
...if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel
then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you."
I doubt there will be anything too strong against males having premarital relations with females other than not doing so with someone promised to another male, or with someone who they are forbidden to have such relations with (ie their sister, mother etc).
Basically the bible views females as property, and thus their sexuality is equally 'owned' by others. Since men are not supposed to 'dally' with those who are close kin relatives, a female should not be having sex with their father, and unless they are a slave prior to marraige they have not been owned by anyone who can legitimately demand their sexual services, ergo they should be virgin when married.
Berkylvania
05-08-2004, 06:08
Poor little insane thread.

Why has no mod locked you yet?

Do they enjoy seeing you suffer?
Ancients of Mu Mu
05-08-2004, 06:13
Don't be silly. Of course I can:

Yo can't enforce your religous belifes.

See? :D
Sdaeriji
05-08-2004, 06:18
If you try to enforce your religious or ethical beliefs upon me, I'll enforce my fists upon your face.
Berkylvania
05-08-2004, 06:20
If you try to enforce your religious or ethical beliefs upon me, I'll enforce my fists upon your face.

Big talk from a Cabbage Patch Girl...
Sdaeriji
05-08-2004, 06:24
Big talk from a Cabbage Patch Girl...

Hey, at least I'm not a homewrecker, Miss Pacman lover.
Olde Ragnarok
05-08-2004, 06:26
Hey ma, look at me, I'm on the internet!hey me too

*Sniffle*

I'm not...

*mutters* Show-offs...
Shaed
05-08-2004, 06:28
*wanders in*
*hands out popcorn and hotdogs*
*settles down to watch the fun*
Berkylvania
05-08-2004, 06:32
Hey, at least I'm not a homewrecker, Miss Pacman lover.

I can make her happy in ways he never even dreamed of. Besides, she's at home alone while he's out funning it up with Inky, Blink, Pinky and Clyde, popping pills and wakka-wakking his way straight to Divorcetown!
Kinsella Islands
05-08-2004, 06:38
Wow, here's the best case yet about why some things *shouldn't* be considered made right by popular vote.


We're being lectured at about righteous ethics by someone who can't spell Vampire. Or ethics, for that matter.

*laughing.*

I needed that, though. :)
Sdaeriji
05-08-2004, 06:39
I can make her happy in ways he never even dreamed of. Besides, she's at home alone while he's out funning it up with Inky, Blink, Pinky and Clyde, popping pills and wakka-wakking his way straight to Divorcetown!

Yeah, I definately just laughed for like 5 minutes straight. Thank you!