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What are your guys/gals stances on p.e.t.a.. do you consider them a terrorist group?(they have been linked to sabotaging and paying money to a well known arcinist.)" would you support peta in your own nations?

In Colodia, they would be arrested and/or shot dead for depriving the people of good meat!

But, we want to keep Colodia as civilized as possible.

So I do that in my OTHER nations...

i though peta was about protecting the rights of animals?

they stand for the "total liberation of animals" which means animals should not be pets either.

PETA.... I don't consider them a terorist group, but it's close.

I think they had a good cause, and just went to far in it. While I believe animals are cruely treated sometimes, I don't think we should go aganst human nature, and not eat meat. And I also think pets are fine. I also don't think it's worth bombing buildings, cars, and other assorted things, or the funding of them.

a very stange organization. they want human rights for animals. think about it. human rights......animals.......now, besides that illogical stance there are other problems. i have no problem with foolish people taking foolish stances. i do have a problem with terrorism and bad behavior. peta has paid people to build bombs and set them off in research labrotories that are working to cure an illness that i have. they also have distributed papers to CHILDREN at a local fast food joint that tells them that their parents are murders for teaching them to eat meat. now, you see, opinions are one thing, rude tactics and BOMBINGS in particular, i have a seriosu problem with.

that isn't even the proper acronym.... total liberation of all animals?
it's people for the ethical treatment of animals and they are douchebags cuz i'm the one with the advanced frontal lobe so i'll kill whatever animal i feel like killing and eat it too. and if they do terrorist crap they need to go to jail for conspiracy.

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a very stange organization. they want human rights for animals. think about it. human rights......animals.......now, besides that illogical stance there are other problems. i have no problem with foolish people taking foolish stances. i do have a problem with terrorism and bad behavior. peta has paid people to build bombs and set them off in research labrotories that are working to cure an illness that i have. they also have distributed papers to CHILDREN at a local fast food joint that tells them that their parents are murders for teaching them to eat meat. now, you see, opinions are one thing, rude tactics and BOMBINGS in particular, i have a seriosu problem with.

I can't believe I forgot about the McDonalds incident. Where they replaced some happy meal boxes, with a pop up Ronald with a butcherknife killing a bloody cow. DON'T SCAR THE DAMN KIDS!

I have no problem with PETA, as far as i am aware they do not destroy property in situations that are likely to lead to human casualties. I am also influenced by Peter Singer who is quite convincing in his arguments in support of animal rights.

* Reads about them being for releasing pets ...

What ? ? ?

" HANDS OFF MY MALTESE TERRIER YOU SCUM ! "

Ahem, animal liberationists, especially the militant ones, are a pain in the ass. Occasionally their actions cost hard workers milions of dollars and can threaten entire industries, like the group in Australia which sabotaged a shipment of Halal certified sheep by breaking in before they were transported to the ship and contaminating their feed with pork, and video-taping it, then releasing the tape later on once the sheep were ready to go. It was bloody nasty and really hurt the farmers, whose actual practices were humane enough.

I don't know much about Peta so I don't have a problem.

Genesis 9:3 "Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything."

I just laugh at all the PETA people, there missing out on some good steak, pork chops, spare ribs, and some good ol' Carolina barbecue.

It cost's perfectly fine people millions a year to pay for all the damage PETA causes, even the humane ones, THEY SHOULD PICK THEIR TARGETS BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!! :headbang: :headbang:

that isn't even the proper acronym.... total liberation of all animals?
it's people for the ethical treatment of animals and they are douchebags cuz i'm the one with the advanced frontal lobe so i'll kill whatever animal i feel like killing and eat it too. and if they do terrorist crap they need to go to jail for conspiracy.

The Acronym is actually People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

I don't know much about Peta so I don't have a problem.

PETA is a orginazaton with the idea that animals deserve the exact same rights as humans, so they shouldn't be eaten, reachearched with, owned, ETC...

They are the lunatic fringe of animal rights....

http://members.rogers.com/zeppo_marx2/images/godscreatures.jpg

It cost's perfectly fine people millions a year to pay for all the damage PETA causes, even the humane ones, THEY SHOULD PICK THEIR TARGETS BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!! :headbang: :headbang:

You are missing the point entirely. I think next time someone needs to test some new sunscreen formula they should perhaps put a couple of layers onto you then bathe you in high dose UV rays and see how long it takes you to develop skin cancer. I would like to see your perspective on animal torture then.

I *SAID* there are examples of animal crulety, I'm refering to things like the pork sheep feed thing.

EDIT: And even in that example, you couldn't test it on a human, and that's better then not testing at all. That test on five monkeys, could save the lives of tens of thousands of people. And testing people in that example would be illegal.

Well, there is animal cruelty... and then there is....

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040730/i/r1278702090.jpg

Man, you see in that example, there is no point in that, that shouldn't be allowed.

they need to go to jail for conspiracy.

PETA shot Kennedy ? :eek:

;)

Sadly, it IS one of the JFK theroies.

They can't arrest peta, because we don't know who's paying the terrorists.

PETA itself isn't a terrorist organization, although many members (and former members) of PETA are terroristic. Now ELF and ALF . . .. PETA might be considered as supporting terrorist organizations but itself falls short of being a terrorist organization (well unless they are really good at hiding their tracks). They are not at wacky fringe of animal rights, ALF is closer.

As for my opinion of PETA, I think they are mostly well intended people who know very little about animals. I think they (for the most part) idolize and/or anthropromophize animals in their ignorance. It is not that there is an absence of animals being treated unethically or people who actually do know about and care about animals as they really are who are upset about this, it is just that PETA (as it is now) attracts the flakes.

glad too see even those to the left of my politicly know of peta's evils

PETA is a bunch of physco's, nuff said.
Besides every one loves Steak :)

Like I said, they went too far.


Acctualy, if you look in PETA's financal records, using the Right of Infromation act, you can find them funding known ALF ELF terrorists.

Still, ALF and ELF are the two stupidest names EVER!

as i say to all animal rights and vegetqarian type people...

*points to mouth*
do you see these teeth?
they say i'm an omnivore.
that means NOTHING is off the menu.
and that includes YOU.

they are mostly jerks who don't think clearly, but I'm not for shooting them. However, prosecute them for violent protests just like you would prosecute anyone else who destroys property. Occassionally they do some good things...I think

However, I heard that at some fashion show a bunch of people came to protest fur clothing. The people got advance warning and were prepared. When the PETA fols jumped out, guards were ready with fur coats to wrap them up in and carry them outside.

Tee hee

totally sweet

Like I said, they went too far.


Acctualy, if you look in PETA's financal records, using the Right of Infromation act, you can find them funding known ALF ELF terrorists.

Still, ALF and ELF are the two stupidest names EVER!Thats' why I put in the "suppoting terrorist orgaizations", because they they have funded ALF & ELF among others. And while they have funded terrorists directly, they don't fund terrorism, they fund things like the legal defense of terrorists. It might be fair to call them a terrorist enabling organization (like the UN which also funds terrorists), but not a terrorist organization.

Like I said, they arn't QUITE a terrorist orginazation.

What? No PETA fans wanting to defend themselves?

I just want to let PETA know that they are welcomed in my nation. We think that fish is the only good meat out there.

Sorry. Fish are animals also dude.

What? No PETA fans wanting to defend themselves?


nah. they're too busy crying because the elephants in india have to sleep outside.

btw. it's machina. just a nitpick.

I know the spelling, it was 3AM when I wrote it however, and I can't change it now.

Hehe, elephants...

PETA is hardly a terrorist group. They're liberals. It's a pity that nowadays we librals are spotted as radical terrorists.
I would whole hearted welcome them in my Libertarian nation.

It's good to have groups that keep people in check with their treatment of animals, or other interests. However, that being said, PETA is way too extreme and offensive. They are bordering on terrorism and are well past insanity. They go to such lengths as saying killing animals for food is equivilent as the Holocaust. In short, I don't like them.

Sorry. Fish are animals also dude.

Fish aren't animals, "dude". I ban chicken and beef.

I know the spelling, it was 3AM when I wrote it however, and I can't change it now.

Hehe, elephants...

ah so. suck.

yeah. this girl in my class was complaining about how the elephants used in the tourist industry in india are forced to sleep outside... wtf do you think they do in the wild you dumb bitch?

Fish aren't animals, "dude". I ban chicken and beef.


fish may not be "meat" but they are very much animals, genius.
bony fish taxonomy is as follows.
animalia-->chordata-->osteichthyes

animals.

I think we should ban animal experimentation - and start doing experiments on convicted criminals and Britney Spears fans instead ;)

Actually, it's a widely known scientific fact that fish aren't animals - they are in fact highly evolved vegetables. Similarly, frogs are in fact minerals, and are extracted from frog mines. ;)

I think we should ban animal experimentation - and start doing experiments on convicted criminals and Britney Spears fans instead ;)
that is a very intelligent decision. We could grant lifers money to give to their families for a little test time.

Thanks for taking care of the dummy who said fish wern't animals while I was gone guys.

Oh, and I was just trying to go to your intelegence level, I hardly ever use "dude" in normal speech.

Query: Lifers?

Actually, it's a widely known scientific fact that fish aren't animals - they are in fact highly evolved vegetables. Similarly, frogs are in fact minerals, and are extracted from frog mines. ;)


right. i forgot. silly me.

Query: Lifers?

those serving a life sentance i assume

Heeeeyyy! That DOES make sence, maybe that's how we should do the death penalty, they have to test products untill they die from one, or if the're lucky, they'll make it to old age.

Heeeeyyy! That DOES make sence, maybe that's how we should do the death penalty, they have to test products untill they die from one, or if the're lucky, they'll make it to old age.
Like russian roulette but with beauty products. we could make a gameshow out of it. but seriously then you would have human rights pwople with their lawyers putting an end to that.

Thanks for taking care of the dummy who said fish wern't animals while I was gone guys.

Oh, and I was just trying to go to your intelegence level, I hardly ever use "dude" in normal speech.

Want me to "take care of you" in a declaration of war? Just for insulting the Emperor over a fact that fish have no emotion, it's like eating a scorpion. You two small nations must watch your tongue. Me and my two other provinces combine, total over 2 1/2 billion (real accounts).

I think we should ban animal experimentation - and start doing experiments on convicted criminals and Britney Spears fans instead ;)
It would be cruel and inhumane to perform many experiments on any intelligent beings which can feel pain. Leave those poor convicts alone.

First off, I never said make it into a gameshow, it's just better then just killing them. It adds some benift to society, besides, they don't have rights if they are dead anyway IMO.

Secondly, you have way too much anger, and need to find a better way to deal with it, then giving non real threats, to a non real countrey, heck, you couldn't even do stuff IN GAME! Was that supposed to frighten me? Bad try jerk, tell your "Emperor" that he sucks.

Oh, and guy above me, animals are intelegent, and CAN feel pain, I'll even agree with PETA on that.

What? No PETA fans wanting to defend themselves?

Well i was going to go and do something usefull with my afternoon but Dues clearly needs company.

There is no absolute division between humanity and the animal kingdom. Everything that defines humanity is shared in some way by at least some animals. Apposeable thumbs, monkeys have them. Tool use - otters use tools regularly. The abilty to use language - too many animals to list posses language. Intelligence? We cannot define or measure intelligence and even if we could, there are some humans are not intelligent (trying not to name names) and we still consider it appropriate to confer rights upon them.

Humans are thus part of the animal kingdom not above it and it is our responsibility to cause as little harm as possible to our fellow animals. Abuse of our power over animals is the ultimate expression of humanities arrogance and disregard for our natural environment.

But however, PETA goes too far in this logic, by saying that humans cannot eat animals, attacking others about it, and other things that they adovacate, while I'll agree with them on some points, on the whole, they went too far in their cause.

If you want farther examples, they talk about stopping things that don't hurt the animals anyway, or acctualy help them, such as how they don't give the elephants food on some indian nature thingies. They are supposed to forage for themselves, and if they fed them, then released them as PETA also asks, it'd kill those elephants, as they wouldnt' be able to feed themselves, as they don't know how.

if they did nothing their agenda would be ignored by mainstream society. As it is, by a few small and relatively minor acts of sabotage they turn animal rights into an important debate. Perhaps a case of the ends justifying the means.

Oh, and guy above me, animals are intelegent, and CAN feel pain, I'll even agree with PETA on that.I have seen no evidence of intelligence on the part of Britney Spears fans and have serious doubts about their ability to feel pain. Unlike most other animals however, I have no idea of how the psychology of a Britney Spears fan works, if they do actually have a psychology. **note the qualification "many" in reference to experiments**

But, they arn't exactly animals, you could argue that any living being is an animal, (or plant, but BS fans must be aliens, along with BS herself.

Unless, of course, you're talking about BS fans who.. *Ahem* "liked" her when she was less then 18 years old, they are sickos, and should be slowly killed off by the products.

First of all they wish to consider humans and animals as on the same level. First of all, animals eat other animals. So if we are on an equal level as their logic suggests, then we should eat animals as well.
(A study done in Colorado on all the people over 100 in that state found that they had nothing in common in race, background, smoking habits, etc. The only thing they did have in common was that they all ate red meat and eggs every day.)
I support testing on animals. It is stupid to test on humans, as it could kill a human life (which is a sin). God gave us right to use all his animals. To test on a few monkies and end up saving thousands of humans is perfectly okay.

PETA free to exist in my country, but the moment an event that could be linked to them that is terrorist related, they would be removed. Disrupting my beef-based agriculture would be a blow to my TRUE Libertarian nation.

We accept them in our country, we even kinda like them, but we DO tell them to show us the plans for their rallys first, and fine them 300,000`~ if they do one, that's linked to them w/o our knowledge.

It's to stop property damage.

First of all they wish to consider humans and animals as on the same level. First of all, animals eat other animals. So if we are on an equal level as their logic suggests, then we should eat animals as well.
(A study done in Colorado on all the people over 100 in that state found that they had nothing in common in race, background, smoking habits, etc. The only thing they did have in common was that they all ate red meat and eggs every day.)
I support testing on animals. It is stupid to test on humans, as it could kill a human life (which is a sin). God gave us right to use all his animals. To test on a few monkies and end up saving thousands of humans is perfectly okay.


Eating animals is fine, subjecting them to unneccesary cruelty is not fine.