NationStates Jolt Archive


All Democrats, please read this!!!

Roach-Busters
03-08-2004, 05:58
Even though I am not a Democrat, I'm just curious how Dems will vote on this poll.
Sdaeriji
03-08-2004, 06:00
I vote chickens.
Colodia
03-08-2004, 06:02
where the **** is Edwards? YOU LEAVE EDWARDS OUT?
Nazi Weaponized Virus
03-08-2004, 06:04
Dennis Kucinich - Even though I am not American this guy is a true Liberal.
Roach-Busters
03-08-2004, 06:06
where the **** is Edwards? YOU LEAVE EDWARDS OUT?

Damn it! I KNEW I was forgetting someone! (Slaps forehead) Ah, well...pick 'Other,' then.
Colodia
03-08-2004, 06:07
Damn it! I KNEW I was forgetting someone! (Slaps forehead) Ah, well...pick 'Other,' then.
*sigh*

you remember Braun...but forget the Veep nominee?
Roach-Busters
03-08-2004, 06:09
It was stupid, I admit.
Colodia
03-08-2004, 06:12
It was stupid, I admit.
*slap*

damn right!

*runs off to get drunk to get away from this topic*
Sdaeriji
03-08-2004, 06:18
Dear lord I hope Hilary doesn't get any votes.
Roach-Busters
03-08-2004, 06:24
Agreed. I just put her in there 'cause some Dems I know thought she'd make a good President. But if she became President, what would that make Bill? First Lady? Lol...
Incertonia
03-08-2004, 06:26
I was a Dean man from the beginning. He was the first candidate I ever gave any money to--the first ever--and I wanted him to win so badly I could taste it. I voted for him here in California, even though he'd largely pulled out of the race by then. I couldn't pass up the chance to actually vote for someone instead of against someone else. And I'd vote for him again without hesitation.
Roach-Busters
03-08-2004, 06:27
Whatever happened to Dean? Ever since he dropped out, it's as if he's never existed. Creepy, eh?
Incertonia
03-08-2004, 06:32
You must not be paying attention. He's started his own PAC, named Democracy for America. It supports local and state-wide candidates all over the US who are supporting progressive values and themes. He's been actively campaigning for Kerry and shows up on tv all the time. Hell, he drew some fire today for calling out the Bush administration's latest terror alert as being at least partially politically motivated. He noted how it seems any time the Democratic nominee gets some traction, Tom Ridge has some special announcement to make. Dean's very active right now, and he'll stay active for a while, I imagine. I have hopes that Kerry will name him chairman of the FCC once he wins the Presidency. Probably won't happen, but I'd love to see it.
Opal Isle
03-08-2004, 06:50
Whatever happened to Dean? Ever since he dropped out, it's as if he's never existed. Creepy, eh?
Aside from speaking at the DNC...see above post.
Unfree People
03-08-2004, 06:52
Edwards... definitely Edwards... I picked "other" :p
El Aguila
03-08-2004, 06:56
I'm a Republican but voted 'cause I'm a dip shit. I voted for Dennis Kucinich thinking that's who most Democrats who'd want as a dork. Guess What? I was right? *lol*
Unfree People
03-08-2004, 06:58
I'm a Republican but voted 'cause I'm a dip shit. I voted for Dennis Kucinich thinking that's who most Democrats who'd want as a dork. Guess What? I was right? *lol*
I hate Kucinich and I'm a registerted Democrat. :o generalizations :p
Opal Isle
03-08-2004, 06:58
I voted Wesley Clark.

1) He's from Arkansas and so am I and so was Bill.

2) He's former Supreme Commander of NATO...which means he'd know how to handle...let's see, Iraq? The war on terror? He'd also start off with great ties to the NATO countries. They'd already know him and he'd already know them.
Texastambul
03-08-2004, 07:02
I worked the Kucinich campaighn in the North Texas area so I'm going to have to go with him.

These are the top 6 reasons I supported him:

1) Opposed the Patriot Act(s) and the Liberty Act.
2) Opposed the creation of the Homeland Security department.
3) Opposed the occupation and war in Iraq.
4) Opposed NAFTA and the WTO.
5) Supported a protective-tax to keep American jobs in America.
6) Favored the full legalization of marijuana and an end to the war on drugs.
Texastambul
03-08-2004, 07:11
I voted Wesley Clark.
1) He's from Arkansas and so am I and so was Bill.

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2) He's former Supreme Commander of NATO...which means he'd know how to handle...let's see, Iraq? The war on terror? He'd also start off with great ties to the NATO countries. They'd already know him and he'd already know them.


Yes, Wesley Clark certainly handled the situation in the Balkens. His NATO bombing campaign killed more civilians in a few months than Milosovich's military could during the whole civil war.

Not only that, but he almost started World War Three when he ordered a British General to attack the Russian military!

The guy is a psychopath, but what else would you expect from the man who allowed the ATF to train at Ft. Hood Texas for the BranchDavidian Church raid?
Incertonia
03-08-2004, 07:17
I worked the Kucinich campaighn in the North Texas area so I'm going to have to go with him.

These are the top 6 reasons I supported him:

1) Opposed the Patriot Act(s) and the Liberty Act.
2) Opposed the creation of the Homeland Security department.
3) Opposed the occupation and war in Iraq.
4) Opposed NAFTA and the WTO.
5) Supported a protective-tax to keep American jobs in America.
6) Favored the full legalization of marijuana and an end to the war on drugs.
Number 5 is enough reason not to vote for Kucinich. Protectionism is always an economic disaster. I give him full marks for numbers 1, 3, and 6, and am ambivalent on 2 and 4, but 5 is a deal-breaker.
Texastambul
03-08-2004, 07:37
Number 5 is enough reason not to vote for Kucinich. Protectionism is always an economic disaster.

and yet you support Kerry who (claims he) holds the same postion...
Roach-Busters
03-08-2004, 07:44
Dennis Kucinich - Even though I am not American this guy is a true Liberal.

Well, there were a few conservative things about him. He wanted to get us (the US) out of NAFTA and the WTO.
Roach-Busters
03-08-2004, 07:46
I worked the Kucinich campaighn in the North Texas area so I'm going to have to go with him.

These are the top 6 reasons I supported him:

1) Opposed the Patriot Act(s) and the Liberty Act.
2) Opposed the creation of the Homeland Security department.
3) Opposed the occupation and war in Iraq.
4) Opposed NAFTA and the WTO.
5) Supported a protective-tax to keep American jobs in America.
6) Favored the full legalization of marijuana and an end to the war on drugs.

1-4 are definitely very conservative positions.
Furor Atlantis
03-08-2004, 08:19
For a time at war, I have to say, I pick former general Wesley Clark.
Incertonia
03-08-2004, 13:48
and yet you support Kerry who (claims he) holds the same postion...
Wow--there's hardly a greater misstatement of Kerry's positions on trade than that. Congrats, Texastambul--you just outdid the Republican party in terms of bullshit rhetoric.
Jello Biafra
03-08-2004, 13:54
Well, there were a few conservative things about him. He wanted to get us (the US) out of NAFTA and the WTO.

Getting the US out of those organizations would be quite a liberal thing to do.
Texastambul
03-08-2004, 14:06
Wow--there's hardly a greater misstatement of Kerry's positions on trade than that.

Uh, okay... So what did he mean by calling for an end to what he termed "Benedict Arnold corporations" that ship their work overseas? I'm really confused here... When he says things like, "I think we need to re-examine NAFTA," what the hell is he saying? That doesn't give me any inkling as to his position.

Congrats, Texastambul--you just outdid the Republican party in terms of bullshit rhetoric.


Hey, I'm not a partisan ditto head -- I'm seriously trying to figure this Kerry guy out and his vague ambiguity isn't helping! Spare me your diatribe and just let me know what Kerry's position is on trade.
Texastambul
03-08-2004, 14:08
Getting the US out of those organizations would be quite a liberal thing to do.

liberal-conservative .. at some point those terms lose all meaning...
Incertonia
03-08-2004, 14:11
Tex, Kerry was referring to companies that ship profits offshore to shell corporations and avoid paying taxes, and then increase their profits by outsourcing jobs overseas, because they're taking advantage of some tax loopholes that allow them to do so. Kerry's not going to try to build some protectionist wall--he just wants to close those loopholes so those companies that make money off US conumers pay taxes in the US, and he'll offer incentives in the form of tax breaks to encourage them to create jobs in the US.
East Canuck
03-08-2004, 14:12
I agree with Texastanbul that Kerry has protectionnism views. However, since Bush does also, it's a moot point and my first complaint once the elections are over.