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The Kerry saga continues.

Subject: Who is Mrs. Kerry?


THE SECOND COMING OF HILLARY?
As time goes on, we're just getting to know the possible future
First Lady of the United States of America, and it is quite interesting.
You'll be hearing even more about Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of
Democratic frontrunner. She has quite a track record, especially when it
comes to the causes she donates to.

Turns out one of her favorite "charities" is the Tides Foundation.
What is that you ask? This is an outfit that sends hundreds of millions
of dollars to groups that protested the invasion of Iraq, demands open
U.S. borders and provides legal defense for suspected terrorists.
I don't think John Kerry's Vietnam service is going to make people
look the other way on this stuff.

Among other groups supported by Kerry's wife: Ramsey Clark's
International Action Center. This is the same Ramsey Clark that offered
to defend Saddam Hussein. Another group seeks to ease restrictions
on immigration from terrorist nations. Another group has links to the
terrorist group Hamas. And on and on.
I didn't think it was possible to make Hillary Clinton look good,
but Mrs. Kerry just might.

You going to source that? Or did you write it yourself?

You expect me to believe that a jewish woman supports Hamas.


You're going to have to do better than that.

You expect me to believe that a jewish woman supports Hamas.


You're going to have to do better than that.

Who's Jewish?

You going to source that? Or did you write it yourself?

I recieved it in an email from my Uncle. I get many like it all the time. The only source that I could find is this:

----- Original Message -----
From: Edited by Stephanie
To: Undisclosed Recipients
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:46 PM
Subject: Who is Mrs. Kerry?

Thats the person that originaly typed it up from what I can gather.

I recieved it in an email from my Uncle. I get many like it all the time. The only source that I could find is this:

----- Original Message -----
From: Edited By Stephanie
To: Undisclosed Recipients
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:46 PM
Subject: Who is Mrs. Kerry?

Thats the person that originaly typed it up from what I can gather.

Ah okay.. We are just sticklers around here for sources...that's all :)

Don't post your uncle's crap next time unless you have a cite then.

Who's Jewish?


Kerry's wife. It was in Newsweek a while ago.

OMG! "Provides legal defence for suspected terrorists"? How awful that someone accused of a crime in this day and age should have access to an attorney other than a state-appointed defender.

As for the rest of this tripe, it's slander. Show the groups, provide the links.

She gives to groups who support defendants who are going to get the stiffest prosecutors? That's good!

She gives to groups who support the democratic right to protest? That's good!

Why the fuck do I care? I'm British. Oh, yeah, 51st State and shit...

Kerry's wife. It was in Newsweek a while ago.

Oh really, I didn't know that.. I knew she grew up in Mozambique Africa and that her parents were of Portuguese descendants. I had never heard any thing about being Jewish. I know that Kerry's grandfather was Jewish and that he converted to being a Catholic.. Are you sure about your info?

Oh really, I didn't know that.. I knew she grew up in Mozambique Africa and that her parents were of Portuguese descendants. I had never heard any thing about being Jewish. I know that Kerry's grandfather was Jewish and that he converted to being a Catholic.. Are you sure about your info?


The article said that her family moved to Mozambique, they were Portuguese jews, and then it had a black and white photograph of them and it looked old.

Also Mozambique at the time was a Portuguese colony.

The article said that her family moved to Mozambique, they were Portuguese jews, and then it had a black and white photograph of them and it looked old.

Also Mozambique at the time was a Portuguese colony.

Ah, okay, I can believe that.. I wonder if she converted to marry Kerry to being a Catholic.

I recieved it in an email from my Uncle. I get many like it all the time. The only source that I could find is this:

----- Original Message -----
From: Edited by Stephanie
To: Undisclosed Recipients
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:46 PM
Subject: Who is Mrs. Kerry?

Thats the person that originaly typed it up from what I can gather.
You have been duped into forwarding false information!!! I have received these types of emails myself and usually what I do, is go right back to the person who sent it to me and ask them to verify the accuracy. Guess what? They can't. They and you have become unwitting messengers much like a virus spreading through the Internet.

When you pass this stuff on as gospel, you do yourself a huge disservice as well as the person who is being maligned.

Snopes.com is a great place to verify some of these garbage emails that masquerade as being factual when in fact they are not.

Here is a link to that very same email you just posted:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/tides.asp

This site explains why this email is in fact bogus.

There is another web site that describes a similar spread of disinformation, which is called "astroturf"....

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Astroturf

Campaigns & Elections magazine defines astroturf as a "grassroots program that involves the instant manufacturing of public support for a point of view in which either uninformed activists are recruited or means of deception are used to recruit them."

Now....imagine if people were sending falsehoods about YOU around the world on the Internet????

Now....imagine if people where sending falsehoods about YOU around the world on the Internet????[/COLOR]

Thats part of being famous...

Debunked again huh.. perhaps you should stop reading emails from your Uncle..lol

Thats part of being famous...
That is more like infamy than famous. I wouldn't want that kind of fame. Anyways, I was just trying to help out.

Debunked again huh.. perhaps you should stop reading emails from your Uncle..lol

Or just stop posting them on here for entertainment :)

Or just stop posting them on here for entertainment :)
Reading information is ok. It is what you do with that information that counts the most.

Ah, okay, I can believe that.. I wonder if she converted to marry Kerry to being a Catholic.

Why would she, they weren't married in a church, and besides Kerry shouldn't be a Catholic anymore. Heck no one knows if he actually ever got an annulment, kind of funny though, you can be married for years, have kids, but then like magic the marriage never existed.

Why would she, they weren't married in a church, and besides Kerry shouldn't be a Catholic anymore. Heck no one knows if he actually ever got an annulment, kind of funny though, you can be married for years, have kids, but then like magic the marriage never existed.

I believe it was reported on CNN he did in fact get an annulment, I'll have to look it up to be sure though. I'll see if I can find it.

Ok, I couldn't find much.. but it does seem he did get one, otherwise he wouldn't of been able to still accept communion and stay in the good graces of the church.

Mr. Kerry sought an annulment from the church when he was divorced from his first wife. He later married Teresa Heinz, who is Catholic, and together they regularly attend Sunday Mass and take communion, a sacrament reserved for those in the church's good graces.

Source (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/02/politics/campaign/02KERR.html?ei=5070&en=bb293a2222192a9b&ex=1091592000&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1091435671-zQYP8dO15zrQeTgfwThgNA)

This is too funny....like seagulls squabbling over a piece of bread.

Ok, I couldn't find much.. but it does seem he did get one, otherwise he wouldn't of been able to still accept communion and stay in the good graces of the church.



Source (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/02/politics/campaign/02KERR.html?ei=5070&en=bb293a2222192a9b&ex=1091592000&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1091435671-zQYP8dO15zrQeTgfwThgNA)

The article didn't say if he had got one. So if he didn't he is commiting adultery in the eyes of the church. He shouldn't be catholic if he did this. Besides the fact of his stand on abortion, which goes against the church.

The article didn't say if he had got one. So if he didn't he is commiting adultery in the eyes of the church. He shouldn't be catholic if he did this. Besides the fact of his stand on abortion, which goes against the church.

Well the article did say this

Mr. Kerry sought an annulment from the church when he was divorced from his first wife. He later married Teresa Heinz, who is Catholic, and together they regularly attend Sunday Mass and take communion, a sacrament reserved for those in the church's good graces.

Meaning he must of got one given him and his wife do go to church every Sunday and receive communion, this couldn't of happened unless he did in fact get one. I know, I was raised Catholic.

Well the article did say this



Meaning he must of got one given him and his wife do go to church every Sunday and receive communion, this couldn't of happened unless he did in fact get one. I know, I was raised Catholic.

Well some Catholic churches are looser then others in terms of Catholic Law. But it isn't proven whether he has actually received an annulment. Certain Catholic churches won't allow him to take communion.

Well some Catholic churches are looser then others in terms of Catholic Law. But it isn't proven whether he has actually received an annulment. Certain Catholic churches won't allow him to take communion.

Yeah a few, I might add very few have come out against him being a Catholic, I seen it on the news, but it's been largely chalked up to politics more then any thing, for example, Kerry is personally pro-life, but he understands to hold office you must respect the separation of church and state. Thus, it's not beyond the scope to be against abortion and at the same time uphold the constitution with says it's legal. He's not actually having one nor has his wife, but he can't force his religious views on the country and still uphold the 1st Amendment. Kennedy went through the same thing.. it all worked out.

Well some Catholic churches are looser then others in terms of Catholic Law. But it isn't proven whether he has actually received an annulment.
well if the article says the catholic church gave him an annulment, random churches cant just give anulments
Certain Catholic churches won't allow him to take communion.
which is irrelevant to his anulment, that is relevant to the vaticans current position on abortion and wanting to look important still.

well if the article says the catholic church gave him an annulment, random churches cant just give anulments

which is irrelevant to his anulment, that is relevant to the vaticans current position on abortion and wanting to look important still.

Kerry has never shown the annulment, so if he says he has one, I guess you must believe him as he's John Kerry, and he served in Vietnam.

Kerry has never shown the annulment, so if he says he has one, I guess you must believe him as he's John Kerry, and he served in Vietnam.

:rolleyes:

Still sore over the pasting you received from Thunderland?

Thats part of being famous...

Yes, getting lied about on the internet is being famous.

Getting those lies turned on you to ruin a set of ideals and dreams is called politics.

Falling for those lies is called STUPID!
[That's you, Grays.]

[That's you, Grays.]

Now now. You going to tell us you have never been hoodwinked by somebody?

This is an outfit that sends hundreds of millions
of dollars to groups that protested the invasion of Iraq,

In America, its legal to protest the government, it used to be patriotic!

demands open U.S. borders and provides legal defense for suspected terrorists. I don't think John Kerry's Vietnam service is going to make people look the other way on this stuff.

Last time I checked, people were given due process when suspected of a crime. Usually unpopular people, such as members of the KKK or suspected terrorists have to depend on groups like this one, or that evil terrorist front the ACLU!

Among other groups supported by Kerry's wife: Ramsey Clark's International Action Center. This is the same Ramsey Clark that offered
to defend Saddam Hussein.

Yet again I remind you of the idea of due process, I would say that defending the unpopular is a highly american thing to do.

Another group seeks to ease restrictions on immigration from terrorist nations. Another group has links to the terrorist group Hamas. And on and on. I didn't think it was possible to make Hillary Clinton look good,
but Mrs. Kerry just might.

Prove it. If there was any substance to these claims the Republicans would be plastering it all over FOX NEWS , and they aren't so it must be really unfounded, because FOX has no problem reporting rumors picked up on the internet. (like this bit of bullshit http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125464,00.html)

...provides legal defense for suspected terrorists.
Oh my god! Providing legal defence for suspected criminals, as the constitution demands! She must be stopped!

Thats part of being famous...
You're not going to apologise for attempting (accidently?) to mislead people?

I have 2 words for this thread---SHOVE IT!!!

In America, its legal to protest the government, it used to be patriotic!



Last time I checked, people were given due process when suspected of a crime. Usually unpopular people, such as members of the KKK or suspected terrorists have to depend on groups like this one, or that evil terrorist front the ACLU!



Yet again I remind you of the idea of due process, I would say that defending the unpopular is a highly american thing to do.



Prove it. If there was any substance to these claims the Republicans would be plastering it all over FOX NEWS , and they aren't so it must be really unfounded, because FOX has no problem reporting rumors picked up on the internet. (like this bit of bullshit http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125464,00.html)
This thread has already been OWNED, perhaps a dignified burial is in order rather than continuing the BS?