NationStates Jolt Archive


I am right and if you disagree with me, you are wrong.

Paxania
01-08-2004, 23:42
Abortion is wrong. Gay marriage is wrong. Tax cuts are good for the economy and we now have the fastest peacetime economic growth in 20 years. English does not need to be formalised as the national language. Saddam was a dictator hiding WMD's. The government did not arrange 9/11 (and it might be noted that we had intelligence that could have prevented Pearl Harbor which was ignored). Affirmative action must be eliminated as soon as possible.

Vote Bush.
Muordoa
01-08-2004, 23:52
That's funny, because I'm always right, and I don't agree with everything there.

Abortion is wrong. Gay marriage is wrong. Tax cuts are good for the economy and we now have the fastest peacetime economic growth in 20 years. English does not need to be formalised as the national language. Saddam was a dictator hiding WMD's. The government did not arrange 9/11 (and it might be noted that we had intelligence that could have prevented Pearl Harbor which was ignored). Affirmative action must be eliminated as soon as possible.

Vote Bush.

Abortion is wrong - sometimes.


Gay marriage - Make your own choice (as to it's being right or wrong) but the topic of gay marriage isn't - or shouldnt be - a political issue. The president shouldn't have any more say in the gay marriage issue than I do, because it has nothing to do with the presidency. Gay marriage, whether you think it is right or wrong, should still be legal. The case against gay marriage is a religious one, it is that gay marriage wrong because it goes against the bible, against God. While that may be, I don't think the White House needs to tell us what is right by the bible. That's the church's job, and the church should have a say in whether they marry gay couples, not the government. People say that it should be illegal because it is unchristian -- well, sorry to break it to you, but in case you hadn't heard, there are quite a few people out there who, amazingly, don't believe in the same things that you do. That means that a large part of the population is (gasp!) not christian. I don't know of too many atheists who worry about whether what they are doing is OK with God, and they shouldn't have to, because religion is a choice. You say gay marriage isn't Christian, well neither are a lot of people. Even if I thought gay marriage was wrong, unholy, (which I don't) I would still believe that it should be legal.

WMD's - I agree.

9/11 - anyone who says that the government organized the attacks on the towers is a dumbass and needs massive hemmhoraging so that we can all be rid of them.

Affirmative action - I am against, say, schools having a diversity quota that they have to meet, having to let in a certain number of blacks, hispanics, etc.
I'm all for blacks and hispanics going to college and such, but a school should accept people based on intelligence, etc. rather than race. Same goes for the workforce, etc.
Paxania
02-08-2004, 00:08
I'm glad you agree with me on most of these issues, but I believe gay marriage is a social issue and abortion violates the child's right to life.
Muordoa
02-08-2004, 00:13
I say sometimes because there are instances when it would be wrong to bring a child into the world under certain circumstances, such as if the mother was raped. If you have consensual sex, then I think you need to be responsible enough to deal with what may come out of it (no pun intended) but there are circumstances, i believe that justify it. I don't think it is something to be done very long into the pregnancy, or anything to be taken too lightly.
Stephistan
02-08-2004, 00:20
If being left is wrong, I don't want to be right... :D
Opal Isle
02-08-2004, 00:26
Abortion is wrong. Gay marriage is wrong. Tax cuts are good for the economy and we now have the fastest peacetime economic growth in 20 years. English does not need to be formalised as the national language. Saddam was a dictator hiding WMD's. The government did not arrange 9/11 (and it might be noted that we had intelligence that could have prevented Pearl Harbor which was ignored). Affirmative action must be eliminated as soon as possible.

Vote Bush.

I'm not going to dip into abortion or gay marriage. Although, I am adamantly opposed to a constitutional ammendment barring gay marriage (and kind of undecided about any laws concerning it).

It's weird to have the fastest peace-time economic growth when we're not really at a peace time.

No one has found WMDs yet, and having WMDs didn't make him a threat that absolutely had to be dealt with immediately. We had and still do have bigger problems.

I don't think 9/11 was arranged by the government either.

(The Pearl Harbor evidence wasn't ignore. It just got caught up in a bad system of information sharing. It had to be sent from the intel office at the base, to the Pentagon, then to the head CO and the strike happened before anyone at the Pentagon had a chance to look at it.)

Affirmative Action should be changed from giving an edge to people of certain ethnicities. It should really give the edge to people of certain economic situations who really are held back from education. A rich minority family has the exact same oppurtunities as a rich white family and shouldn't recieve any edge. However, there are poor white people who are stuck in bad neighborhoods with bad school systems just like there are poor people of every ethnicity in bad neighborhoods with bad school systems.
Custodes Rana
02-08-2004, 00:32
Vote Bush.

Not in this lifetime.
Ashmoria
02-08-2004, 00:32
If being left is wrong, I don't want to be right... :D

amen to that!
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
02-08-2004, 00:38
Abortion is not wrong

Nobody should even be allowed to get married

Tax cuts + increased spending = Huge ass Deficit

American needs to be formalized as the official national language.

Saddam was a little prick

Government did not arrange 9/11

Affirmative action should be toned down a lot.

Vote for Tony Cox

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/18/66/12m.jpg

Either that or none of the above.
Muordoa
02-08-2004, 00:38
Don't vote for bush, vote against Kerry.
Opal Isle
02-08-2004, 00:40
Tax cuts + increased spending = Huge ass Deficit
mmmm, ass deficits...
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
02-08-2004, 00:53
mmmm, ass deficits...
Are you watching me take a deficit? You perve.
:mp5:
Arenestho
02-08-2004, 01:06
Abortion depends on the case. Gay marriage is a pathetic issue, they love each other, not allowing them to marry ain't gonna change that so they should just let it pass and get on to more important issues. Tax cuts and increased spending means debt, debt means more taxes to pay them off in the long run. A country should have a national language, but it should also have others. Saddam was an american funded dictator who had already used all of his WMD's gasing the Kurds. There is no proof that they didn't or that they did, but it was probably them considering the discepancy in them saying a plane crashed into the pentagon, yet it was obviously not a plane that hit it.
Mentholyptus
02-08-2004, 01:51
Abortion: impossible to argue against in the first trimester. Defending it gets harder after that. Still should be legal.

Gay Marriage: Any two consenting non-related adult human beings should be able to enter into a contract that both gives them social status as a committed partnership and political/economic rights. All such contracts should be equal. Whether that means making gay marriage legal or expanding civil unions to cover both heterosexual and homosexual partnerships doesn't matter.

Saddam: was a dictator. We put him there. We sold him WMDs. There were no WMDs there during Gulf War II. Unless you live in Iraq and have some VX gas in your basement, don't tell me that Saddam was hiding WMDs.

Economy: Is slowly recovering. Saying it's growing quickly is a falsehood: a lot of the new jobs are much lower-paying than those that were lost, and the unemployment rate is dropping mostly because those unemployed after their benefits and unemployment insurance run out are no longer considered unemployed. The tax cuts will screw us all in the end.

The national language thing is a non-issue.

The government did not organize 9-11. It (especially the currend Admin.) could have done a better job preventing it, but they didn't organize it.

Affirmative Action should probably be rearranged to focus more on economic circumstances than race, though most minorities are economically disadvantaged anyways.

Vote Kerry. I will never vote for a Bush, unless it's a wet t-shirt contest and Jenna is involved.
MariahC
02-08-2004, 13:35
Abortion is wrong. Gay marriage is wrong. Tax cuts are good for the economy and we now have the fastest peacetime economic growth in 20 years. English does not need to be formalised as the national language. Saddam was a dictator hiding WMD's. The government did not arrange 9/11 (and it might be noted that we had intelligence that could have prevented Pearl Harbor which was ignored). Affirmative action must be eliminated as soon as possible.

Vote Bush.

You just quoted all the issues I find pressing and wrong. I agree with you on every one of those points. Thanks for having a conscience.
MariahC
02-08-2004, 13:38
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Vote Kerry. I will never vote for a Bush, unless it's a wet t-shirt contest and Jenna is involved.[/QUOTE]

(Sing with me) Oh do you know the ketchup man, the ketchup man, the ketchup man? Do you know the ketchup man that lives on Lobbyist Lane?

Sick, sick, sick analogy about Jenna.