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The first poll taken in its entirety after the Democratic Convention shows a significant bounce - for the Bush Cheney ticket.

A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Sunday shows that among likely voters, President Bush reaped a five point bounce from the Democratic confab, and he now leads Sen. Kerry, 50 to 47 percent.

The new numbers represent a sharp reversal from a July 19-21 CNN/USA Today/Gallup survey, which had Kerry leading Bush by two points, 49 to 47 percent.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-08-01-poll-kerry_x.htm

The first poll taken in its entirety after the Democratic Convention shows a significant bounce - for the Bush Cheney ticket.

A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Sunday shows that among likely voters, President Bush reaped a five point bounce from the Democratic confab, and he now leads Sen. Kerry, 50 to 47 percent.

The new numbers represent a sharp reversal from a July 19-21 CNN/USA Today/Gallup survey, which had Kerry leading Bush by two points, 49 to 47 percent.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-08-01-poll-kerry_x.htm
Theres like a 3 or 4% error on these things isn't there? I'd like to see this play out a bit more before we jump to any conclusions.

note that every other poll is showing kerry slightly leading bush

Does it really matter at this point anyway? Elections aren't for another 5 months , the publicans haven't had their party yet and the debates usually make more of a difference in the poll figures anyway, so these early poll numbers are relatively inconsequential right now.

Does it really matter at this point anyway? Elections aren't for another 5 months , the publicans haven't had their party yet and the debates usually make more of a difference in the poll figures anyway, so these early poll numbers are relatively inconsequential right now.

Thank you! That is an excellent point. Any bounce Kerry might have received is irrelevant in the long term, particularly considering the RNC hasn't happened yet (and New York is now on Red Terror alert, as are Washington, D.C., and parts of New Jersey...we are winning the war on what now?) and any bounce Kerry got would be offset by the bounce Bush will get. The volitility of the polls throughout this whole process has led me to believe one thing: No one's happy with either candidate. No clear cut favorite is emerging and a poll that says one thing today will probably say something else tomorrow.

4 Years of Democrat badmouthing, 9 months of negative campaign adds, and 9 months of Lies about Bush, and Kerry has what? A lead of one point if the margin of error is taken out of all polls and averaged. Good Work, Democrats, you are really appealing to the masses.

three to one ratio of negative ads, Bush on the highest end.

Remember the boy who cried wolf?

There are no lies in politics. There are only different ways of looking at a set of facts.

Actually, I The Bush Campaign has just cited Kerry's record. THat only counts as negative ads when you are a liberal.

Actually, I The Bush Campaign has just cited Kerry's record. THat only counts as negative ads when you are a liberal.

Read something (although I know you wont):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3222-2004May30.html

Let me quote a couple of paragraphs for you:

"Scholars and political strategists say the ferocious Bush assault on Kerry this spring has been extraordinary, both for the volume of attacks and for the liberties the president and his campaign have taken with the facts. Though stretching the truth is hardly new in a political campaign, they say the volume of negative charges is unprecedented -- both in speeches and in advertising."

"Three-quarters of the ads aired by Bush's campaign have been attacks on Kerry. Bush so far has aired 49,050 negative ads in the top 100 markets, or 75 percent of his advertising. Kerry has run 13,336 negative ads -- or 27 percent of his total. The figures were compiled by The Washington Post using data from the Campaign Media Analysis Group of the top 100 U.S. markets. Both campaigns said the figures are accurate."

While I don't expect this to change your loud-mouthed, short-sighted rhetoric, don't expect to be allowed to change a blatantly negative campaign strategy into just "citing" his record.

There are no lies in politics. There are only different ways of looking at a set of facts.
you havnt seen bush's first ads, before they digressed to childish insults

they took a SINGLE vote for a SINGLE bill and said he voted against it FIVE times, they have math problems in the white house they do

I find this hard to believe, as Rasmussen (the best, least biased pollers out there) say a 4 pt bounce for Kerry.

Kerry 49% Bush 45%

The latest Rasmussen Reports Presidential Tracking Poll shows Senator John Kerry with 49% of the vote and President George W. Bush with 45%. The Tracking Poll is updated daily by noon Eastern.

These results reflect a 4-point "bounce" for Kerry from the Democratic national convention. Last Monday morning, just before the convention began, Kerry and Bush were tied at 46% each.

This is also just the second day in nearly 150 days of polling that either candidate has moved above 48% in the daily Presidential Tracking Poll.

they took a SINGLE vote for a SINGLE bill and said he voted against it FIVE times, they have math problems in the white house they do

Mebby they learned some of that "washington fuzzy math" that bush talked so much about in 2000.

Just as a footnote, the networks are saying that the real numbers for whether Kerry got a bounce or not won't be out till Monday.. so I wouldn't pay to much attention to any numbers until tomorrow.

Just as a footnote, the networks are saying that the real numbers for whether Kerry got a bounce or not won't be out till Monday.. so I wouldn't pay to much attention to any numbers until tomorrow.

yep, polling is still being conducted and tabulated and all that lovely stuff, but like I said early polls like this are pretty meaningless.

4 Years of Democrat badmouthing, 9 months of negative campaign adds, and 9 months of Lies, and Kerry has what? A lead of one point if the margin of error is taken out of all polls and averaged. I know, its amazing. All the energy the RNC is putting in to putting Kerry down, and he's STILL leading.

Actually, I The Bush Campaign has just cited Kerry's record. THat only counts as negative ads when you are a liberal.
Well, they've significantly distorted his votes and what he stands for, so I think I'm happy to call that negative.

Just as a footnote, the networks are saying that the real numbers for whether Kerry got a bounce or not won't be out till Monday.. so I wouldn't pay to much attention to any numbers until tomorrow.

The only numbers that matter are those that come out five months from now on election day.

Read something (although I know you wont):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3222-2004May30.html

Let me quote a couple of paragraphs for you:

"Scholars and political strategists say the ferocious Bush assault on Kerry this spring has been extraordinary, both for the volume of attacks and for the liberties the president and his campaign have taken with the facts. Though stretching the truth is hardly new in a political campaign, they say the volume of negative charges is unprecedented -- both in speeches and in advertising."

"Three-quarters of the ads aired by Bush's campaign have been attacks on Kerry. Bush so far has aired 49,050 negative ads in the top 100 markets, or 75 percent of his advertising. Kerry has run 13,336 negative ads -- or 27 percent of his total. The figures were compiled by The Washington Post using data from the Campaign Media Analysis Group of the top 100 U.S. markets. Both campaigns said the figures are accurate."

While I don't expect this to change your loud-mouthed, short-sighted rhetoric, don't expect to be allowed to change a blatantly negative campaign strategy into just "citing" his record.

Are you seriously quoting the Post? Are you insane? Weekly World News has more credability. Considering the guy who owns the Post, I think you may need your head examined. Unless of course you follow his religious beliefs. If that is the case, then I'll pay for your hospital stay.

BTW the Post is an unbiased newspaper. hahahaha

I find this hard to believe, as Rasmussen (the best, least biased pollers out there) say a 4 pt bounce for Kerry.

Kerry 49% Bush 45%

The latest Rasmussen Reports Presidential Tracking Poll shows Senator John Kerry with 49% of the vote and President George W. Bush with 45%. The Tracking Poll is updated daily by noon Eastern.

These results reflect a 4-point "bounce" for Kerry from the Democratic national convention. Last Monday morning, just before the convention began, Kerry and Bush were tied at 46% each.

This is also just the second day in nearly 150 days of polling that either candidate has moved above 48% in the daily Presidential Tracking Poll.

Polls are like opinions. Pretty soon every asshole has one.

The first poll taken in its entirety after the Democratic Convention shows a significant bounce - for the Bush Cheney ticket.

A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Sunday shows that among likely voters, President Bush reaped a five point bounce from the Democratic confab, and he now leads Sen. Kerry, 50 to 47 percent

Umm, you have it backwards..the poll has Kerry @ 50% and Bush @47%.. just for the record.

Polls are less accurate samplings of the population than Nielsen ratings.

Umm, you have it backwards..the poll has Kerry @ 50% and Bush @47%.. just for the record.
Umm, No I don't.

"In the survey, taken Friday and Saturday, Bush led Kerry 50%-46% among likely voters. Independent candidate Ralph Nader was at 2%."

Here is the link for the exact poll I quoted. Have a nice day.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-08-01-poll-kerry_x.htm

Umm, No I don't.

"In the survey, taken Friday and Saturday, Bush led Kerry 50%-46% among likely voters. Independent candidate Ralph Nader was at 2%."

Here is the link for the exact poll I quoted. Have a nice day.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-08-01-poll-kerry_x.htm

Yup, you're right.. sorry about that.

CNN/USA/Gallup now have them both at 48% a piece.. dead heat.