NationStates Jolt Archive

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I feel no mater what the death penitly must never ever be used

No, he should get life in prison in a cell that he used to torture people in.

He has to be convicted first which isn't going to happen for a long time with the way these big time trials go.

He'll be dead before he can get sentenced. Colon cancer which he is refusing treatment for...

If he is executed, spin artists will make him up as a martyr to inspire more anti-Americanism in the middle east.

As I am not an Iraqi I cannot say. I dislike the Death Penalty and feel it should only be applied to persons who's actions are so repellent that thier continued existance is intolerable to society. I suspect that Saddam rises to that level in Iraq, but I do not know.

Meh, the fact your not an Iraqi gives you a more unbias viewpoint. Its this wierd American idea of justice - which basically equates to giving the victims the right to decide the fate of the criminal. I hope to God for the day when here a booming voice resounding in The Haig that says:

"George Walker Bush - you stand accused of the following crimes:
- Breaking of International Law.
- Mass Genocide.
- Election Fraud.
- Being a Republican."

And then out of nowhere. Hans Blix comes along and chops his head off.

Meh, the fact your not an Iraqi gives you a more unbias viewpoint. Its this wierd American idea of justice - which basically equates to giving the victims the right to decide the fate of the criminal. I hope to God for the day when here a booming voice resounding in The Haig that says:

"George Walker Bush - you stand accused of the following crimes:
- Breaking of International Law.
- Mass Genocide.
- Election Fraud.
- Being a Republican."

And then out of nowhere. Hans Blix comes along and chops his head off.
Hague* (not that it matters.)

Meh, the fact your not an Iraqi gives you a more unbias viewpoint. Its this wierd American idea of justice - which basically equates to giving the victims the right to decide the fate of the criminal. I hope to God for the day when here a booming voice resounding in The Haig that says:

"George Walker Bush - you stand accused of the following crimes:
- Breaking of International Law.
- Mass Genocide.
- Election Fraud.
- Being a Republican."

And then out of nowhere. Hans Blix comes along and chops his head off.
I'd pay to see that :)

[QUOTE=Nazi Weaponized Virus]Meh, the fact your not an Iraqi gives you a more unbias viewpoint. Its this wierd American idea of justice - which basically equates to giving the victims the right to decide the fate of the criminal.[QUOTE] Hmm, no.

The fact is that I am not a member of the Iraqi society. Rhw fact is that Iraq is the society which will be making the decision on whether or not to execute Saddam. I cannot judge if Saddam's actions are so repellant to Iraqi society as to make it intolerable to Iraqi society that Saddam continue to exist.

The standard I use for determining the applicability of the death penalty has nothing to with the victims. I don't, in fact, consider the death penalty to be part of the criminal justice system, and victimization has nothing per se to do with the decision to execute someone. I believe that the death penalty is part (the extreme part) of society's defense system, more akin to an act of war than an act of justice.

I say give him to the Kurds, let them do what they will.

He deserves a fair trial and the punishment for what ever the Iraqis want for him.

He needs to be apologized to and led back to power as far as i'm concerned.

If he is executed, spin artists will make him up as a martyr to inspire more anti-Americanism in the middle east.

You're damned if you do, damned if you don't.

It'd be pretty easy to make the US look weak if they didn't execute him, and easy to make him a martyr if they do.

Its very wrong, I feel, that we all presume to decide his fate now.

You could all at least wait for the court to finish his fair trial and find him guilty.

:rolleyes: + :D

It's all kind of a moot point, since he's going to escape and take over the US.

It's all kind of a moot point, since he's going to escape and take over the US.

*narf*

Its no point in killing him, he'll be dead soon anyway.

sadam husain and george w bush should get exactly the same treatment. perhaps as cellmates.

sadam was acting under orders from donald rumsfield, but he was still such a nice guy anyway.
as for bush, well really it's cheny, ashcroft and rumsfield, but that's what he gets for hanging out with sweethearts like karl rove and ken ley.

main thing is to chainge the bedsheets so we can at least get rid of some of the bedbugs

killing anyone won't undo the harm they've caused
just dump them in with the common population in some third world prison like in thailand or venisuala

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No. The death penalty is worthless, let him rot in a cell.
That does not mean torture him- thats just as bad as what he did.

Its up to the Iraqis but I would like to see Saddam put to death for his crimes. Everyday he lives is another day he casts a shadow over Iraq. I don't think the Iraqis will believe he is truly gone until he is dead.

I hope to God for the day when here a booming voice resounding in The Haig that says:

"George Walker Bush - you stand accused of the following crimes:
- Breaking of International Law.
- Mass Genocide.
- Election Fraud.
- Being a Republican."

And then out of nowhere. Hans Blix comes along and chops his head off.

I'd love to see that.
You really ought to substitute Dubya for Dick Cheyney through. W would have to be charged as an accompliance, or an instrument of these crimes.
The evidence will be prima facie (thats Latin).
Those charges to very much simplified, but I see your point (the last one shouldn't be a charge, freedom of political expression even in the extremes should be free).

There should never be a death penalty. IMHO it is a far greater punishment to remove ones' personal freedom than to give them an early exit visa. By ending their life via execution, in many cases, you give them perhaps the freedom they desired in the first place?

Saddam does not deserve execution. He has become quite sedentary and is probably quite harmless now, and he can be kept in confinement outside of Iraq. The most humane thing to do would be to give him permission to live peacefully in another country while ensuring that the security is tight enough that he will never be "rescued." I would like to see Saddam in Canada, Italy, or the USA. He should of course be tried and information should be extracted from him but there is no reason to kill him.

Mercy is a virtue the USA has exercised over the last 15 years or so and we might as well intensify it.

Counterterror is a police action after all, not a military one.

I do believe he deserves a slow and painful execution. But I also believe it is the decision of the Iraqi people and the Iraqi courts to determine his guilt or innocence and his punishment if convicted.

It should be up to the Iraqi people to lay out in their constitution an universal standard of punishment. Me, I would strongly oppose the death penalty (as I do in the United States) but it is not in my hands.