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Let's assume Bush wins. Do you want Cheney as your cantidate in 2008?

No, because of his health. He's a great guy, but I fear that one more heart attack will leave him an invalid. In fact, if Bush wins, I wouldn't be surprised if Cheney resigned over health issues.

No, because of his health. He's a great guy, but I fear that one more heart attack will leave him an invalid. In fact, if Bush wins, I wouldn't be surprised if Cheney resigned over health issues.
he may be a ok vp but i would not want him as president

Not my first choice, heck not even on my top 5 list, but no real problem with him. I doubt he's even considering it though.

No, his health is not what it was and the Republicans need young leaders to step up. Rudy Guliani would be a interesting candidate or Colon Powell.

I wish Bush could be presidant forever :(

I wish Bush could be presidant forever :(


yes lets make the US into a dictatorship why dont we?

yes lets make the US into a dictatorship why dont we?

bush ain't no dictator, jerko :sniper: :mp5: :gundge: :gundge: :gundge: :mad: :mp5:

I wish Bush could be presidant forever :(


you cleary whont him to be one by that post

no, I see him as the bunker president

he sits in a bunker and makes it evident to the terrorists and hostile nations that if they kill the president he'll move in and be alot worse for them than the guy before him

Is there a way to check FSB's profile? I want to see how old he is.

April 1, 1962 thats what it said

bush ain't no dictator, jerko :sniper: :mp5: :gundge: :gundge: :gundge: :mad: :mp5:
Anyone who stays in power "forever" is a dictator

April 1, 1962 thats what it said

Thanks. I wonder if it's really true, though? He reminds me of a twelve-year-old.

Thanks. I wonder if it's really true, though? He reminds me of a twelve-year-old.
I guess 12 yr olds say jerko alot :rolleyes:

Ignorance has nothing to do with age So I can believe he is that old

no, I see him as the bunker president

he sits in a bunker and makes it evident to the terrorists and hostile nations that if they kill the president he'll move in and be alot worse for them than the guy before him
Not bad, I like it.

Anyone who stays in power "forever" is a dictator

Unless they are continually re-elected by the population in open elections. Then they might just be a popular leader.

Ahh... FSB. Will you ever cease to amuse me? But Cheney can't be president. In that one amendment (can't be bothered to look up which one) it states that neither a prez or a vp can hold either of the executive offices for more than a combined total of 10 years. So if Bush is elected in November, and Cheney is the VP, than Cheney will no longer be eligible to run for either office. Ever. I wonder why no one brought this up before?

Ahh... FSB. Will you ever cease to amuse me? But Cheney can't be president. In that one amendment (can't be bothered to look up which one) it states that neither a prez or a vp can hold either of the executive offices for more than a combined total of 10 years. So if Bush is elected in November, and Cheney is the VP, than Cheney will no longer be eligible to run for either office. Ever. I wonder why no one brought this up before?Because it's not true. Bush I held the VP for 8 years before the Pres for 4 years and can still hold the office for annother 4 years. There is no maximum number of years which one may be preident. One may only be elected president twice, once if one has held the office for more than 2 years. In theory as long as one is never elected to the presidency and only gains the office through resignation/death of the president one can be president as many times and for as many years as one can convinve the electorate to keep making you VP. Note that it is accepted that the VP qaulifications require the VP to be electable as president, so once one is elected president once and serves two years of someoneelse's term, one can no longer be vice president (although Speaker of the House . . .).

Because it's not true. Bush I held the VP for 8 years before the Pres for 4 years and can still hold the office for annother 4 years. There is no maximum number of years which one may be preident. One may only be elected president twice, once if one has held the office for more than 2 years. In theory as long as one is never elected to the presidency and only gains the office through resignation/death of the president one can be president as many times and for as many years as one can convinve the electorate to keep making you VP. Note that it is accepted that the VP qaulifications require the VP to be electable as president, so once one is elected president once and serves two years of someoneelse's term, one can no longer be vice president (although Speaker of the House . . .).
Looks like I need to reread the constitution. And set fire to my US History teacher.

no. NOt sure who would be a good choice though. Health is a factor and he's an ok guy but no.

Unfortunately, one woulfd have to be more conservative than either Powell or Guiliani to get the Republican nomination. Mitt Romney is the most likely candidate right now.

Because it's not true. Bush I held the VP for 8 years before the Pres for 4 years and can still hold the office for annother 4 years. There is no maximum number of years which one may be preident. One may only be elected president twice, once if one has held the office for more than 2 years. In theory as long as one is never elected to the presidency and only gains the office through resignation/death of the president one can be president as many times and for as many years as one can convinve the electorate to keep making you VP. Note that it is accepted that the VP qaulifications require the VP to be electable as president, so once one is elected president once and serves two years of someoneelse's term, one can no longer be vice president (although Speaker of the House . . .).10 years id the maximum any person can hold the office of POTUS. May be elected twice.

10 years id the maximum any person can hold the office of POTUS. May be elected twice.
And where praytell is this law?

And where praytell is this law?
Amendment XXII
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.

Let's assume Bush wins.


Let's try to have a positive outlook and hope that God saves us from another 4 years at the hands of skull and bones the coke snorter.



Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior
By TERESA HAMPTON
Editor, Capitol Hill Blue
Jul 28, 2004, 08:09
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4921.shtml
Excerpts:

President George W. Bush is taking powerful anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, depression and paranoia, Capitol Hill Blue has learned.
The prescription drugs, administered by Col. Richard J. Tubb, the White House physician, can impair the President’s mental faculties and decrease both his physical capabilities and his ability to respond to a crisis, administration aides admit privately...

Tubb prescribed the anti-depressants after a clearly-upset Bush stormed off stage on July 8, refusing to answer reporters' questions about his relationship with indicted Enron executive Kenneth J. Lay.
“Keep those motherf*****s away from me,” he screamed at an aide backstage. “If you can’t, I’ll find someone who can.”...

Let's try to have a positive outlook and hope that God saves us from another 4 years at the hands of skull and bones the coke snorter.



Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior
By TERESA HAMPTON
Editor, Capitol Hill Blue
Jul 28, 2004, 08:09
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artm...icle_4921.shtml
Excerpts:

President George W. Bush is taking powerful anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, depression and paranoia, Capitol Hill Blue has learned.
The prescription drugs, administered by Col. Richard J. Tubb, the White House physician, can impair the President’s mental faculties and decrease both his physical capabilities and his ability to respond to a crisis, administration aides admit privately...

Tubb prescribed the anti-depressants after a clearly-upset Bush stormed off stage on July 8, refusing to answer reporters' questions about his relationship with indicted Enron executive Kenneth J. Lay.
“Keep those motherf*****s away from me,” he screamed at an aide backstage. “If you can’t, I’ll find someone who can.”...
Please continue to post thiings like this. It makes the Anit-Bush crowd look sooooo good.

Please continue to post thiings like this. It makes the Anit-Bush crowd look sooooo good.



Bush is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Hiding behind the piety of Christian religion.

He once said, "Only Christians get into heaven." But he changed his tone later, and said, "Everybody gets in."

He also is a skull and bones, a mason, and he is probably president of the Ariel Sharon Fan Club.

Let's try to have a positive outlook and hope that God saves us from another 4 years at the hands of skull and bones the coke snorter.



Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior
By TERESA HAMPTON
Editor, Capitol Hill Blue
Jul 28, 2004, 08:09
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4921.shtml
Excerpts:
*snip*


Much as I like seeing the shrub get slammed; that "magazine" has as much creditibilty as the rags at the checkout stand.

Amendment XXII
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.AND where exactly does this set a maximum number of years (10) which one may serve as president? And where exactly does this say that a person may only finish one term of someone else elected president? Please read the 22th Amendment again and consider the scenerio I have outlined of a person being elected VP multiple times and having the president resign, without ever being elected president.

Much as I like seeing the shrub get slammed; that "magazine" has as much creditibilty as the rags at the checkout stand.

I agree with you.

I had to come in and check to see what you were doing in here, no switching sides, the rest of us in the world are counting on people like you to save us from the Shrub! ;)

AND where exactly does this set a maximum number of years (10) which one may serve as president? And where exactly does this say that a person may only finish one term of someone else elected president? Please read the 22th Amendment again and consider the scenerio I have outlined of a person being elected VP multiple times and having the president resign, without ever being elected president.No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. Can only serve less than 2 years of someone elses term if the wish to be elected twice. This means 2 + 4 + 4 = 10. 10 years maximum, or two elected terms. It is all spelled out there in the Constitution for ya, bub.

I agree with you.

I had to come in and check to see what you were doing in here, no switching sides, the rest of us in the world are counting on people like you to save us from the Shrub! ;)


Oh yea I would make a great Neo-Con! Sorry but surgery bothers me so the lobatomy is out! ;)

Well I am trying to do my part. Getting involved in all. Kerry may not be the perfect choice but I will take him over the current crowd of clowns.

But this is supposed to be a Repub/Conservative thread so I will not get into a spat....this time! ;)

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. Can only serve less than 2 years of someone elses term if the wish to be elected twice. This means 2 + 4 + 4 = 10. 10 years maximum, or two elected terms. It is all spelled out there in the Constitution for ya, bub.Let me try this again, bigger. Where does this limit the number of times a person may hold the office of president or act as president for a term to which someone else was elected as president? There is no limit, this means someone can be president for 4 years minus two minutes for the person elected president to resign + 4 years minus two minutes for the person elected president to resign + 4 years minus two minutes for the person elected president to resign . . . + 4 years minus two minutes for the person elected president to resign = infinity years. Got that, as long as a person is never elected president, they may hold the office for an unlimited number of years, since they always are eligable for the offie of vice-president.

The restriction is only on being elected to the office, not on holding the office.

Let me try this again, bigger. Where does this limit the number of times a person may hold the office of president or act as president for a term to which someone else was elected as president? There is no limit, this means someone can be president for 4 years minus two minutes for the person elected president to resign + 4 years minus two minutes for the person elected president to resign + 4 years minus two minutes for the person elected president to resign . . . + 4 years minus two minutes for the person elected president to resign = infinity years. Got that, as long as a person is never elected president, they may hold the office for an unlimited number of years, since they always are eligable for the offie of vice-president.Whatever,man, go with it. It your story, tell it however you want.

Whatever,man, go with it. It your story, tell it however you want.Read the friggin' Amendment. This is not my story. This convoluted way of becoming effective president for life dates from 1952 when the Amendment was brand spanking new.

Read the friggin' Amendment. This is not my story. This convoluted way of becoming effective president for life dates from 1952 when the Amendment was brand spanking new.
No really, man, I am sure it will work. And The shah of Iran is planning a big Vegas comeback, too.

Let me try this again, bigger. Where does this limit the number of times a person may hold the office of president or act as president for a term to which someone else was elected as president? There is no limit, this means someone can be president for 4 years minus two minutes for the person elected president to resign + 4 years minus two minutes for the person elected president to resign + 4 years minus two minutes for the person elected president to resign . . . + 4 years minus two minutes for the person elected president to resign = infinity years. Got that, as long as a person is never elected president, they may hold the office for an unlimited number of years, since they always are eligable for the offie of vice-president.

The restriction is only on being elected to the office, not on holding the office.

Problem with your logic.

The President Resigns the VP takes over. That is one term. He for whatever reason decides to become VP again(not going to happen), the runs again the President resigns he becomes President again. That counts as a term.

It does not matter your position. You hold office for over 2 years, it counts as a term.

This was due to FDR and almost Truman.......

Problem with your logic.

The President Resigns the VP takes over. That is one term. He for whatever reason decides to become VP again(not going to happen), the runs again the President resigns he becomes President again. That counts as a term.

It does not matter your position. You hold office for over 2 years, it counts as a term.

This was due to FDR and almost Truman.......The amendment makes no restriction on the number of terms which one may serve as president. What the amendment restricts is the number of times one may be elected as president. It would get murkier if you wanted to posit the truely obsene, someone who is elected but never serves. (A man is elected president, is diagnosed with cancer and doesn't take the oath of office as he's supposed to die in three weeks. He never takes the oath and the person who gets the office in his place refuses to yield, so 4 years later he runs again and is elected again. On the way to DC his plane crashes and he is lost in the mountains and doesn't return to civilization for 4 years and someone else served out his term. This poor man has served no time as president, yet he cannot run a 3rd time because he was elected twice.)

One may always be elected at least once in one's own right. VP takes over at begining of term, she has served over two years and may only be elected once. She becomes VP again (yah I know it would never happen unless she had a real lock on the dupe who would be president for two minute) and takes over at the begining of the term. She has served two terms, but may still be elected once. The amendment does not restrict the holding of the office, only the number of times one may be elected to the office. As long as the VP never uses her one chance to be elected president, she may hold the office as many times as she wants to.

The amendment makes no restriction on the number of terms which one may serve as president. What the amendment restricts is the number of times one may be elected as president. It would get murkier if you wanted to posit the truely obsene, someone who is elected but never serves. (A man is elected president, is diagnosed with cancer and doesn't take the oath of office as he's supposed to die in three weeks. He never takes the oath and the person who gets the office in his place refuses to yield, so 4 years later he runs again and is elected again. On the way to DC his plane crashes and he is lost in the mountains and doesn't return to civilization for 4 years and someone else served out his term. This poor man has served no time as president, yet he cannot run a 3rd time because he was elected twice.)

One may always be elected at least once in one's own right. VP takes over at begining of term, she has served over two years and may only be elected once. She becomes VP again (yah I know it would never happen unless she had a real lock on the dupe who would be president for two minute) and takes over at the begining of the term. She has served two terms, but may still be elected once. The amendment does not restrict the holding of the office, only the number of times one may be elected to the office. As long as the VP never uses her one chance to be elected president, she may hold the office as many times as she wants to.

Well ok then.

The Constitutional Law firm that I just checked says otherwise.

But I guess they are wrong as well.

Carry on....

Well ok then.

The Constitutional Law firm that I just checked says otherwise.

But I guess they are wrong as well.

Carry on....
Which firm?

bush ain't no dictator, jerko :sniper: :mp5: :gundge: :gundge: :gundge: :mad: :mp5:

He would if he woulkd be lifelong president

Ahh... FSB. Will you ever cease to amuse me? But Cheney can't be president. In that one amendment (can't be bothered to look up which one) it states that neither a prez or a vp can hold either of the executive offices for more than a combined total of 10 years. So if Bush is elected in November, and Cheney is the VP, than Cheney will no longer be eligible to run for either office. Ever. I wonder why no one brought this up before?

Uhm... because you can't be bothered to look it up? :rolleyes:

Unless they are continually re-elected by the population in open elections. Then they might just be a popular leader.
I meant in the US sense with the term limits