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Now, as most sane people know, MTV blows. I think this is a common agreement. But, somehow, they manage to play the same 4 videos all day, molding music to their will. I have yet to see a good song on MTV. By doing this, they make what is popular popular. And none of it is good. Rap, Pop, none of it enjoyable.

So this filth stays at the top of the charts. Now, back in the day (and when I say "back in the day" I mean before the whole Grunge "thing" ended) there was good music. Good popular music. Led Zeppelin, The Beatles. What happened? Somehow the phrase good popular music became an oxymoron. Well, don't despair. Or do, if you don't believe me.

I am 13. Now, it may be different elsewhere, but at my school, for every one kid that likes rap, there are two kids that are listening to Classic Rock. For every one kid who frequents Hot Topic, there are three kids rooting through their parent's CD's looking for Led Zeppelin IV.

So why am I mentioning this? What relevance does it have?

Those kids who are mouthing Stairway To Heaven in class are learning instruments. Some of them, at least. Now, when you listen to good music, you're going to be influenced. If this trend happens to be occuring everywhere, there may be hope yet for music.

(And just to let everyone know, yes, there is good music today. But it's not topping the charts. You have to dig to find it.)

Rock on, Young Blood.

You need deep-shaft mining to find good music buried on today's charts.

Rock on, Young Blood.
Thanks. And nice thread you made. I think it's called Believe It or Not.

Bump before sleep.

Thanks. And nice thread you made. I think it's called Believe It or Not.


Yep.

If you havent heard many of the songs I listed, you should.
Theyre all really good blues-rock tunes.

With young people like you around, there is DEFINITLY hope for the music world. Keep it up mate, and don't let the custards grind you down!

I agree that MTV sucks, but surely you can find something better than Led Zeppelin.

I agree that MTV sucks, but surely you can find something better than Led Zeppelin.
Well, I just listed them 'cause Stairway To Heaven was being talked about in another thread. Some of their music I actually don't like. Judging from your name, you like the Dead Kennedy's. They're one of my favorite bands. I like all these other bands and people (and more I can't think of):

Muse
The Who
Jimi Hendrix
AC/DC
In Flames
Tool
Nirvana
Rush
A Perfect Circle
AFI
At The Drive-In
The Mars Volta

Tons more. Don't want to list them all.

I agree that MTV sucks, but surely you can find something better than Led Zeppelin.

And what is exactly wrong with Led Zeppelin? Bear in mind that hard rock and metal originated in them. You may not like some of their songs, but it was a defining band who still influence today's generation. I find it a perfect example for the point Tellenthion tried to make.

Plus I like them.

maybe I'm just pessimistic...but even the talented musicians today who like good music don't make it, because MTV doesn't play it and they don't make as much money off of it...So they model themselves off of Good Charlotte, et al. after their first CD or two...
seems kinda silly to me.
but it's like...they make a cd that people like...so they make another, that is ok
then they're making lots of money so they're like, hey, let's start mass producing our music!
And mass production is where it breaks down
actually...many of them don't even release that many albums

guess I can't really say why they suck...

But I do have hope for you young'uns

:(
the mars volta is such a sad band...

My personal advice is to look into "low rock", a subgenre that's never really caught on. Find some Morphine and see how few people can identify the bad.

:(
the mars volta is such a sad band...
Yea, De-Loused was pretty sad if you knew what it was about (especially Televators.)

My personal advice is to look into "low rock", a subgenre that's never really caught on. Find some Morphine and see how few people can identify the bad.
What's low rock like? I'll look up Morphine as soon as I can.

ok everybody lets play pretend today

today we will be pretending the only good music is rock music

Find some Morphine and see how few people can identify the bad.

Two bass players? One of them quite often playing with a guitar slide? Them chaps?

ok everybody lets play pretend today

today we will be pretending the only good music is rock music
I didn't mean to imply that. It's just the only music that has a chance of making a comeback from what I see.

ok everybody lets play pretend today

today we will be pretending the only good music is rock music
what fun is that?
Doesn't take a lot of imagination to pretend something that is already true

Well, I just listed them 'cause Stairway To Heaven was being talked about in another thread. Some of their music I actually don't like. Judging from your name, you like the Dead Kennedy's. They're one of my favorite bands. I like all these other bands and people (and more I can't think of):

Muse
The Who
Jimi Hendrix
AC/DC
In Flames
Tool
Nirvana
Rush
A Perfect Circle
AFI
At The Drive-In
The Mars Volta

Tons more. Don't want to list them all.

Goddamit! You forgot Pink Floyd!
That said, I like classic rock, along with some modern rock (Modest Mouse, Simple Plan, Blink 182, lots of others). However, my true love is good country music.

JOHN DENVER
ALABAMA
MONTGOMERY GENTRY
TOBY KEITH
ALAN JACKSON
JIMMY BUFFETT (not really country, but I live at the beach)
TRACE ADKINS
UNCLE KRACKER
DIERKS BENTLEY
and so many more :)

what fun is that?
Doesn't take a lot of imagination to pretend something that is already true
ignorant half wit

ignorant half wit
don't speak anymore, pls

shut up
fear the truth? rock music isnt the only good music

fear the truth? rock music isnt the only good music
it was a joke
you might have heard....one

I like plenty of other music
however, I haven't heard of Wagner coming out with anything recently

Two bass players? One of them quite often playing with a guitar slide? Them chaps?
Well one more often plays the Sax, but yes, 2 bass players and a drummer.

People often have heard more Morphine than they know, although the band is no longer (lead singer died years ago), the music has been in several movies and themes from the band are used in a fair amount of non-entertainment TV.

I have heard a bit of Jazz/Blues, and I have to admit a weakness to IDM, but pretty much any other good music I've heard from the past...30 years falls somewhere into rock- which is a very broad category

it was a joke
you might have heard....one

I like plenty of other music
however, I haven't heard of Wagner coming out with anything recently
when was the last time the beatles made something

thats right

when was the last time the beatles made something

thats right
?

oh, you're right....I thought there were other rock bands...obviously the beatles were the only one...

and to answer your question, let it be...naked just came out very recently- it wasn't recorded recently, but it was released...

Sliders has a good point, but misses the point of the thread I think, which is that of an open-minded youngster having the courage to go against the grain
:rolleyes:

?

oh, you're right....I thought there were other rock bands...obviously the beatles were the only one...

and to answer your question, let it be...naked just came out very recently- it wasn't recorded recently, but it was released...
and there are other things besides wagner. your just being a pain in the ass

Sliders has a good point, but misses the point of the thread I think, which is that of an open-minded youngster having the courage to go against the grain
:rolleyes:
I'm confused as to the eyeroll (really, I am)
I do get the point of the thread
I just made a joke about a passing comment that itself, had no bearing on the thread, and felt the need to defend myself after being personally insulted. (though it was probably unnecessaary- you don't really have to respond to "those types") so I apologize for the hijacking

I think the point of the thread is that there is no good music, but help is on the way! Mr. Squares pointed out that other good music doesn't exist, my real point was that, even though good non-rock music exists, it isn't being released, which does stick to the point of the thread...There is no good music being released

and there are other things besides wagner. your just being a pain in the ass
did you forget about that album, or just not know about it?
and yes, there are other things than Wagner (and rock)
However, my claim only assertted that Wagner was the only good thing in music (other than rock) which is subjective
You're statement asserted that the Beatles were the only rock band, which is basically objectively true...and besides, you were wrong, since they did just release an album

(though someone has probably just recently done one of Wagner's works and released it too, tee hee...but yeah, I am just being a smart ass)

did you forget about that album, or just not know about it?
and yes, there are other things than Wagner (and rock)
However, my claim only assertted that Wagner was the only good thing in music (other than rock) which is subjective
You're statement asserted that the Beatles were the only rock band, which is basically objectively true...and besides, you were wrong, since they did just release an album

(though someone has probably just recently done one of Wagner's works and released it too, tee hee...but yeah, I am just being a smart ass)
what album and how much stuff is new

tupac keeps releasing albums, he died several years ago

what album and how much stuff is new

tupac keeps releasing albums, he died several years ago
like I said already, let it be...naked
and, as far as I know (which might not be very far) it was all previously unreleased...to whatever extent (all the songs had been released, but not in this form)
and yes, tupac still has records coming out, as do the beatles- tupac is dead, as are some of the beatles...I don't get your point... how is tupac relevant at all?

personaly i enjoy christian music, especially newsboys

like I said already, let it be...naked
and, as far as I know (which might not be very far) it was all previously unreleased...to whatever extent (all the songs had been released, but not in this form)
and yes, tupac still has records coming out, as do the beatles- tupac is dead, as are some of the beatles...I don't get your point... how is tupac relevant at all?
because we are referring to records coming out by dead artists

and my submission to good music is Run-DMC

personaly i enjoy christian music, especially newsboys
Oh, go away.


Sliders: We may have our wires crossed

Sadly, rap is still very popular around here(suburban Pennsylvania).

I'm a huge Pearl Jam/Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins fan.

Sadly, rap is still very popular around here(suburban Pennsylvania).

I'm a huge Pearl Jam/Soundgarden/Smashing Pumpkins fan.
oh yeah, rap is horrible, it should die, all rappers suck and rap is a fake music genre

guess what i dont like a single band you just listed but i dont go around saying "sadly this guy listens to this crap"
no i dont


there are good rap groups: outkast, run-dmc, jurassic 5, optimus rhyme (PA people know what im talking about)

never said it was crap, said it was rap. lol.


re-check what i posted.


edit: i have no problem with outkast, i like a couple of their songs.

I remember in my old school they had MTV playing in the lounge all the damn time. Finally I got sick of it and went up there and changed the channel to something better. I found a nice war movie, The Green Berets I think. So I sat down and started watching it. Then somebody came up and tried to change it back after about twenty minutes. He said something like, “wouldn’t you rather be watching a bunch of girls in bikinis dancing around instead of all these guys crawling around in the dirt?”

My response was, “what’s the matter, you can’t get any by yourself so you’ve got to watch it on TV?”

He begrudgingly walked away. :D

never said it was crap, said it was rap. lol.


re-check what i posted.


edit: i have no problem with outkast, i like a couple of their songs.
i read your post, it said "sadly, rap is still popular here" from what i gather you are implying rad is crap

no, no, no. i never said i hated rap. Just that its not my number one choice, amung other genres.


Sorry if i sounded like a retard.

i read your post, it said "sadly, rap is still popular here" from what i gather you are implying rad is crap

Well I for one think that rap is crap. However, preferences cannot and should not be discussed.

:eek: :mp5: I only watch the wildboyz,viva la bam and thatz it...mtv does suck

The Albums I Own:

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AfroCelt Sound System - Volume 2: Release
AfroCelt Sound System - Volume 3: Further In Time
Aghora - Aghora
Alice In Chains - Dirt
Fiona Apple - When The Pawn…
Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes
Asian Dub Foundation - Enemy of the Enemy
Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
Beatles - Revolver
Beatles - Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Beatles - Magical Mystery Tour
Beatles - Abbey Road
Beatles - Let It Be
Beatles - 1
Hector Berlioz - Symphonie Fantastique
Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middle-Earth
Jeff Buckley - Grace
Björk - Debut
Björk - Post
Björk - Telegram
Björk - Homogenic
Björk - Vespertine

Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica
Eric Clapton and B.B. King - Riding With The King
Cocteau Twins - Treasure
Cornelius - Point
Coldplay - Parachutes
The Cooper Temple Clause - Kick Up The Fire, And Let The Flames Break Loose
Paolo Conte - The Best of Paolo Conte
Cromatica - Standards
Corrs - In Blue
Colleen - Everyone Alive Wants Answers
Cream - Disraeli Gears
Yehudi Menuhin and Ravi Shankar - West Meets East

Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue
Miles Davis - Sketches Of Spain
Miles Davis - In A Silent Way
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
Miles Davis - Nefertiti
The Doors - The Doors
Dream Theater - Scenes From A Memory
Dream Theater - Images And Words
Dream Theater - Awake
Dream Theater - A Change Of Seasons
Dream Theater - Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
Dustin - Not Just a Pretty Face
Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde
Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind
Bob Dylan - Love and Theft
Ephel Duath - The Painter's Palette
Emperor - Prometheus
Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
Fleetwood Mac - Greatest Hits (with Peter Green)

Rory Gallagher - Irish Tour
Frank Gambale - Passages
The Gathering - Mandylion
The Gathering - Nighttime Birds
The Gathering - If_Then_Else
The Gathering - Souvenirs
Genesis - Selling England By The Pound
Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced?
Jimi Hendrix - Axis: Bold As Love
Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
Jimi Hendrix - Band of Gypsys
Jimi Hendrix - First Rays of The New Rising Sun

Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual
JJ72 - JJ72
Nigel Kennedy - The Kennedy Experience
Alicia Keys - Songs In A Minor
King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King
King Crimson - Red
King Crimson - Starless and Bible Black
King Crimson - Discipline
King Crimson - Thrak
KUKL - The Eye
David Kitt - Square 1

Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin 2
Led Zeppelin - Zoso
Led Zeppelin - Houses of The Holy
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
Liquid Tension Experiment - Liquid Tension Experiment
Liquid Tension Experiment - Liquid Tension Experiment 2

Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire
John McLaughlin, Al DiMeola, Paco de Lucia - Friday Night In San Francisco
John McLaughlin, Al DiMeola, Paco de Lucia - Passion, Grace and Fire
John McLaughlin Trio - Que Alegria
Ennio Morricone - Once Upon a Time in The West: Original Soundtrack
Ennio Morricone - Once Upon a Time in America: Original Soundtrack
Manic Street Preachers - Generation Terrorists
Manic Street Preachers - Know Your Enemy
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Metallica - Kill 'Em All
Metallica - Ride The Lightning
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Metallica - …And Justice For All
Glenn Miller - In The Mood: The Very Best of Glenn Miller
Moby - Play
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Piano Concertos 23 and 24
Muse - Showbiz
Muse - Origin of Symetry
Dave Navarro - Trust No One
Nightwish - Oceanborn
Nightwish - Wishmaster
Offspring - Smash
Offspring - Conspiracy of One
Opeth - Orchid
Opeth - My Arms, Your Hearse
Opeth - Still Life
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Opeth - Damnation

Jaco Pastorius - Heavy'n Jazz
Pearl Jam - Ten
Pink Floyd - The Piper At The Gates of Dawn
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of The Moon
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Pink Floyd - Animals
Pink Floyd - The Wall
Pink Floyd - The Final Cut
Pink Floyd - A Momentary Lapse of Reason
Pink Floyd - The Division Bell
Queen - Queen II
Queen - Sheer Heart Attack
Queen - A Night At The Opera
Queen - A Day At The Races
Queen - News of The World
Queen - Live Killers
Queen - The Game
Radiohead - The Bends
Radiohead - OK Computer
Sergei Rachmaninov - Piano Concertos 1 and 3
Rage Against The Machine - Rage Against The Machine
Randall Lee Rainwater - Rainwater Road
Red Hot Chili Peppers - The Uplift Mofo Party Plan
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Mother's Milk
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik
Red Hot Chili Peppers - One Hot Minute
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Californication
Red Hot Chili Peppers - By The Way
Rhapsody - Symphony Of Enchanted Lands
Damien Rice - O
Django Reinhardt - The Best Of Django Reinhardt (Blue Note, 1996)
Rush - 2112
Rush - A Farewell To Kings
Rush - Moving Pictures
Rush - Vapor Trails

The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
Santana - Abraxas
Santana - Supernatural
Carlos Santana and Mahavishnu John McLaughlin - Love Devotion Surrender
Jean Sibelius - Finlandia
Sigur Rós - Agætis Byrjun
Joe Satriani - Surfing With The Alien
Joe Satriani - Not of This Earth
Joe Satriani - Flying in a Blue Dream
Joe Satriani - Joe Satriani
Joe Satriani - The Extremist
Joe Satriani - Crystal Planet
Joe Satriani - G3: Live with Eric Johnson and Steve Vai
Joe Satriani - Strange Beautiful Music
Savatage - Streets
Andrés Segovia - The Gold Collection
Shakti - Natural Elements
Shakti - A Handful of Beauty
Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness
Smashing Pumpkins - Rotten Apples: Greatest Hits
Starsailor - Love Is Here
Soundgarden - Superunknown
Spock's Beard - V
Symphony X - The Divine Wings Of Tragedy
Symphony X - The Odyssey [Limited Edition]
Poiter Ilych Tchiakovsky - 5th Symphony
Poiter Ilych Tchiakovsky - Serenade for Strings
Thin Lizzy - Live and Dangerous
Turn - Antisocial
Turn - In Position EP

U2 - Boy
U2 - October
U2 - War
U2 - Under A Blood Red Sky
U2 - The Unforgettable Fire
U2 - The Joshua Tree
U2 - Rattle And Hum
U2 - Achtung Baby
U2 - Zooropa
U2 - Pop
U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind
Steve Vai - Passion and Warfare
Velvet Underground - Velvet Underground & Nico
Weather Report - Heavy Weather
Freddie White - My Country
Freddie White - Straight Up
Yes - Close To The Edge
Frank Zappa - Freak Out!
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats