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Okay, all those righters want to talk about Kerry flip-flopping in all his time in the senate that the people of Massachusetts elected him to term after term after term and they all want to talk about how he had to cry on his knees to get his medals, but what about Bush? What about his record in the senate? What about his military record? ....oh wait....

ya think Republicans will say "okay...so MAYBE Bush did this and that....and MAYBE he went AWOL...BUT...blah blah"
heh, I'd pay to see that.

Okay, all those righters want to talk about Kerry flip-flopping in all his time in the senate that the people of Massachusetts elected him to term after term after term and they all want to talk about how he had to cry on his knees to get his medals, but what about Bush? What about his record in the senate? What about his military record? ....oh wait....
Senators don't make the best Presidents. Especially bad Senators.

Sure he has a record! His military record: "can't someone else do it" and "let someone else clean up my mess" ... ok, so it's not completely true, but is to soem degree...

Senators don't make the best Presidents. Especially bad Senators.
People who trade away Sammy Sosa do however.

People who trade away Sammy Sosa do however.
I think that has less to do with running a country than voting for a war you don't support.

I think that has less to do with running a country than voting for a war you don't support.
Well that's what happens when we let the right-side think.[/conservatism]
Just kidding...
So, it's wrong for Kerry to find out that the situation in Iraq was different than what we were told and change his mind about it?

Well that's what happens when we let the right-side think.[/conservatism]
Just kidding...
So, it's wrong for Kerry to find out that the situation in Iraq was different than what we were told and change his mind about it?
Only if it's wrong for Bush to find out his intelligence was wrong and apologize for it.

Only if it's wrong for Bush to find out his intelligence was wrong and apologize for it.
Bush apologized for it? Look...I don't take the side with the liberals when they say Bush lied to us because I really can't back that argument up. I'm not ruling out that possibility, but the fact of the matter is, the stuff that the intel supposedly said was going on in Iraq just wasn't happening and if Kerry knew that when he voted on the war, he would have voted against the bill.

Only if it's wrong for Bush to find out his intelligence was wrong and apologize for it.
Bush apologizes?? Since when?

Give me 3 good reasons BESIDES kerry isnt Bush to vote for kerry. I dont know anything about Kerry and the things i do know i dont like. I like Bush because i know what he has done i like what he has done and so what has kerry done? Say he is against the war but votes for it, say he is against the billions of dollars going to Iraq for the war but votes for it... i could go on and on. Why should i vote for Kerry? I watched the DNC yesterday and what...? Kerry says he will ADD 40000 active duty and double our special forces. I am in the military and i dont agree with this it is a bad idea. He says he will roll back the some of the tax cuts for the so called "wealthiest people" which is untrue he will raise taxes on everyone. He is an isolationist that will ruin our economy. If he is elected people will lose more jobs not gain them. Bush has finally recovered the jobs that were lost during the market crash BECAUSE of 9-11 and CLINTON (the economy was already turning araound before election 2000). He gained those jobs back and still counting. So i ask again why should i vote for Kerry? Kerry will also go and bow before France and kiss their @$$es. I am sorry but if we lose France as an ally then so be it we dont need allies like them... And what strength do they add to the alliance anyway? I remember we had to save their butts on numerous occasions WW1, WW2, Vietnam and other places ( a lot of people dont know about French Indo china when it was a colony of France that was why we went to war in vietnam not because of communism they massacred the french army there). France is only good for hosting invasions. So i ask one more time why should i vote for kerry 3 good reasons and Bush had better not be in any of the reasons.

Uhm...the economy suffered from 9/11 but it wasn't a crash. It crash in the late 90s because of the bursting of the dotcom bubble and that is something out of the control of either president.
Aside from that, most of your post seems to be rambling about "Kerry is a flip-flopper" and then some things that are entirely baseless.

Bush rox. Seriously! ;)

Senators don't make the best Presidents. Especially bad Senators.

Christian extremists don't make the best people... let alone presidents.

Bush rox. Seriously! ;)
Does he r0x0rz your s0x0rz?

Does he r0x0rz your s0x0rz?

Don't take 'im seriously, CSW. Especially if you've read his posts on this page: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343274&page=2&pp=15

Christian extremists don't make the best people... let alone presidents.

Ok, if Bush is a Christian extremist, what the heck would you classify Jerry Falwell?

And aren't you showing your own bigotry and intolerance by implying that Christian extremists are bad people? (or at least not "the best people")

http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvotingforhimanyway.com/

Christian extremists don't make the best people... let alone presidents.
Just because Bush is Christian or most Conservatives are Christian DOESN'T make them extreme. Are the terrorists extreme Muslims? Try not to make impressions based on stereotypes.

Just because Bush is Christian or most Conservatives are Christian DOESN'T make them extreme. Are the terrorists extreme Muslims? Try not to make impressions based on stereotypes.
He didn't call all Christians extremists, he implied that Bush is one, which I would agree with, and the terrorists we are fighting currently are extremist Muslims.

He didn't call all Christians extremists, he implied that Bush is one, which I would agree with, and the terrorists we are fighting currently are extremist Muslims.
fair enough

I extremely hope Kerry does not come into office otherwise we are all doomed. Already if you look at Kerry's record in the senate it is horrible. He was on the Intelligence committee riiiigggghhhhtttt??? Well out of like 49 meets that committee had he didn't show up for like 38 of them! If you also look at like the major doc.’s he has signed there are only a couple like one or two and then some minor ones! Also I was listening to a politic talk show today and this guy had a interview with Kerry and set him up for a trap question. He first asked Kerry if he thinks that we need a coalition to go into Iraq, that means the French, Germans, and Russians all with us. And he said he strongly believes we should have a coalition. Then he asked Kerry why he did not vote for the first Desert Storm war when we did have a coalition against Iraq. So do we really want the most extreme liberal of all times coming in as President? Not to mention he is a liar, more then Bush to my standards, and he flip flops on issues? I truly don't think Kerry is qualified to be President...or even in the Senate. And if I where old enough I would vote for George W. Bush.


Not only that his three purple hearts are BS. He practically begged people for it and if he didn’t get it he went up to the next highest rank and begged them until he finally got it.


And plus his wife is a nut. She says something then denies it to the press and tells them to shut up. If this really how we want other nations seeing the first lady as? Some lady yelling at the press? No! We want them to see this kind, upscale, polite woman, not some fruit who goes and mouths off at the press for no reason.

Senators don't make the best Presidents. Especially bad Senators.

You know who makes a worse president than a senator? A failed oilman. Or a failed major-league-baseball team owner. Or a Bush.

I extremely hope Kerry does not come into office otherwise we are all doomed. Already if you look at Kerry's record in the senate it is horrible. He was on the Intelligence committee riiiigggghhhhtttt??? Well out of like 49 meets that committee had he didn't show up for like 38 of them! If you also look at like the major doc.’s he has signed there are only a couple like one or two and then some minor ones! Also I was listening to a politic talk show today and this guy had a interview with Kerry and set him up for a trap question. He first asked Kerry if he thinks that we need a coalition to go into Iraq, that means the French, Germans, and Russians all with us. And he said he strongly believes we should have a coalition. Then he asked Kerry why he did not vote for the first Desert Storm war when we did have a coalition against Iraq. So do we really want the most extreme liberal of all times coming in as President? Not to mention he is a liar, more then Bush to my standards, and he flip flops on issues? I truly don't think Kerry is qualified to be President...or even in the Senate. And if I where old enough I would vote for George W. Bush.


Not only that his three purple hearts are BS. He practically begged people for it and if he didn’t get it he went up to the next highest rank and begged them until he finally got it.


And plus his wife is a nut. She says something then denies it to the press and tells them to shut up. If this really how we want other nations seeing the first lady as? Some lady yelling at the press? No! We want them to see this kind, upscale, polite woman, not some fruit who goes and mouths off at the press for no reason.

I think I'm just going to ignore Rightist posts like this one. If you want to debate the quality of either candidate, let's do it in a reasonable fashion.

You know who makes a worse president than a senator? A failed oilman. Or a failed major-league-baseball team owner. Or a Bush.
The first Bush was better...but he was head of the CIA and knew what was going on in the world...

And plus his wife is a nut. She says something then denies it to the press and tells them to shut up. If this really how we want other nations seeing the first lady as? Some lady yelling at the press? No! We want them to see this kind, upscale, polite woman, not some fruit who goes and mouths off at the press for no reason.

If I were a right-winger, I would not be talking about Kerry's wife, considering that Bush's wife ran a stop sign and killed someone in 1963.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/e1698.htm

If I were a right-winger, I would not be talking about Kerry's wife, considering that Bush's wife ran a stop sign and killed someone in 1963.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/e1698.htm
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