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Constitution Party

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P.S. Am I forgetting any major third parties? I think I got all the big ones.

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Anyone?

On what issue do you agree the most with your party? On which issue do you agree the least?

The only American parties I've looked at are the Democrats, Republicans, Greens, and the Communist Party USA.

My favourite are the Greens. The CPUSA are freaks, I mean authoritarian communists! Who would have thought? They even got subsidised by the Soviet Union for about fifty years. I feel sorry for them though, they have been virtually banned for most of their life in the "Land of the Free".

My favorite third party is the Libertarian Party. Why? Because I can do anything I want as long as it hurts no one else, I don't have to pay taxes, and all gov. owned social stuff will be privately owned. Don't have to worry about them getting money because without the gov. taking 70% of your income, you can donate to the services you like best!

My favorite third party is the Libertarian Party. Why? Because I can do anything I want as long as it hurts no one else, I don't have to pay taxes, and all gov. owned social stuff will be privately owned. Don't have to worry about them getting money because without the gov. taking 70% of your income, you can donate to the services you like best!

Sounds cool! :)

I'd have to say Reform party. None of the others I like, so Reform is where the idealogical misfits go. Pat Buchannan, a right winger, is their most famous member, but there are a fair amount of Marxists in there, too.

Libertarian=Jennifer Government.

NDP... sorry.,..wrong government

Oh yeah, also, Libertarianism would limit Presidential power and only the individual people who wanted to go into a foreign war would and that's any foreign war. Not just US sanctioned wars.

The Greens seem to be great. The Democrats are alright. Oh a Democratic Socialist Party? They'd prolly rock too. Other than that, the others are prolly to far to the right and left for my tastes.

My favorite third party is the Libertarian Party. Why? Because I can do anything I want as long as it hurts no one else, I don't have to pay taxes, and all gov. owned social stuff will be privately owned. Don't have to worry about them getting money because without the gov. taking 70% of your income, you can donate to the services you like best!

The idea of all government owned social stuff being privately owned isn't a good thing.

The idea of all government owned social stuff being privately owned isn't a good thing.

Yeah. Uginin, if you don't have to donate, you probably won't. Which means a lot of people are going to be in trouble. Not to mention not being able to afford visiting the hospital.

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Yeah. Uginin, if you don't have to donate, you probably won't. Which means a lot of people are going to be in trouble. Not to mention not being able to afford visiting the hospital.


Yeah, I'd much rather have the government spend my money for me. Otherwise, what would happen to the inner-city midnight basket leagues? I shudder to think...

Well, when you keep the 70% the government usually takes from you, you have more money. That means you can afford health care.

As for the privately owned social programs, I just don't believe that people who don't want to donate to things like Gov. run gulag schools and the drug war should have to do so. If ya believe in it, give money to it. If you don't, then don't. In the libertarian system, you can't blame the government as much. You have to blame yourself and other people.

I used to be a donating member of the Green Party, but then I saw really unnecessary laws they wanted to make so that I had to shell out more money for stuff like abortions, which I don't personally agree with. Now the Lib. party is pro-choice also, but at least you don't have to fund it if you don't want to. I prefer the state-rights and live and let live laissez-faire attitude of the Libertarian party to controlled socialism.

Sorry if you don't agree. I understand your point, sort of, I think. Too close to anarchy?

I have to say I prefer the Libertarian party... one of the very few that isn't going to try to take away my guns. And it keeps its nose out of people's homes. And hey! They want to put money in my pockets, I've always trusted myself to better use money than a government agency, kinda like how they talk about cutting out the middleman in all those car ads. ;) Lol

Which means a lot of people are going to be in trouble. Not to mention not being able to afford visiting the hospital.

???

We have no national health care system in the USA... being Libertarian wouldn't change this situation...

That said, I think Libertarianism is a load of crap, and rather disturbing crap at that. Check out this debunking of it: http://www.zompist.com/libertos.html

Not appealing at all...

Anyway, I know little about Third Parties, because, unfortunately, they have little to no say in our politics. I think this would be a more democratic country if they did, because the electorate would have more to choose from than just Democrats and Republicans, which the American people are starting to get tired of. However, the Democratic Socialists of America (the existence of which I was unaware of until now, I might add) doesn't sound bad. But I can say that the majority of people in the USA will not vote for a Party with the words "Communist", "Socialist", or "Nazi" in its name.

I would like to find out more about some of these. Does anyone have links to their websites?

the Constitution Party and the American Independent Party are the same thing

Libertarian, hands down.

And for anyone's education http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm has an extensive list of third parties. Some are quite interesting. Anyone voting for the "Libertarian National Socialist Green Party" (http://www.nazi.org/)?
Or hows about Pansexual Peace Party (http://members.tripod.com/Hail_Eris/eris/PPPP/homey.htm)?

I like the pot party.

http://www.pot-party.com/

the Constitution Party and the American Independent Party are the same thing

No, they're not. They're two separate parties.

Of all the third parties, the Libertarian is the best. Still, it's a bit isolationist for my tastes in these days of Islamic terrorism. So I'll stick with the Republicans who at least support some of the Libertarian values and hope Bush gets re-elected so he can keep up the fight against these bastards.

Of all the third parties, the Libertarian is the best. Still, it's a bit isolationist for my tastes in these days of Islamic terrorism. So I'll stick with the Republicans who at least support some of the Libertarian values and hope Bush gets re-elected so he can keep up the fight against these bastards.

The Republicans support some of the Libertarian values? Did I miss something? There are a few such Republicans, but most seem to tout the values of small government and fiscal responsibility while they throw those values out the window when it's convenient for them. Of course, that sort of hypocrisy is what politicians generally do regardless of their thoughts on policy.

Exactly. At least some Republicans pay lip service to Libertarian values. The Democrats don't even do that and actively oppose them in most cases (tax and spend and regulate everyone to death)

I'm partial to the "Prohibition Party" myself, although I have to say I am more in favor to the Concerned Citizens wing over the fellow who managed to steal the nomination through tricky parlimentary procedures. I mean the party has a turnout in a Presidential election year of 200, and they still keep coming back for more. There's something about the doggedness of a 3rd party that absolutely refuses to die that appeals to me, as well as their being the oldest 3rd party still in existance (well, the GOP but that's not the same).

Well, when you keep the 70% the government usually takes from you, you have more money. That means you can afford health care.

As for the privately owned social programs, I just don't believe that people who don't want to donate to things like Gov. run gulag schools and the drug war should have to do so. If ya believe in it, give money to it. If you don't, then don't. In the libertarian system, you can't blame the government as much. You have to blame yourself and other people.

I used to be a donating member of the Green Party, but then I saw really unnecessary laws they wanted to make so that I had to shell out more money for stuff like abortions, which I don't personally agree with. Now the Lib. party is pro-choice also, but at least you don't have to fund it if you don't want to. I prefer the state-rights and live and let live laissez-faire attitude of the Libertarian party to controlled socialism.

Sorry if you don't agree. I understand your point, sort of, I think. Too close to anarchy?
Libertarian. I've got this crazy idea that people will either do the right thing, or at least die out...I think that any taxes should be based on what you purchase (an adjusted sales tax) instead of what you earn. (not quite a libertarian ideal, but better than what we do now) At the very least, you should be able to choose where your tax money goes.

Regressive Party

Vive le Vert! Go Green!

Libertarian. I've got this crazy idea that people will either do the right thing, or at least die out...I think that any taxes should be based on what you purchase (an adjusted sales tax) instead of what you earn. (not quite a libertarian ideal, but better than what we do now) At the very least, you should be able to choose where your tax money goes.

Oh no, that sales tax idea is a horrid one.

Oh no, that sales tax idea is a horrid one.
? why?

Because the brunt of a sales tax falls on the poor. They would be spending a much higher percentage of their money, whereas the rich wouldn't be, thus making it so the poor pay a higher percentage of tax.

Because the brunt of a sales tax falls on the poor. They would be spending a much higher percentage of their money, whereas the rich wouldn't be, thus making it so the poor pay a higher percentage of tax.
well that's why you change the sales tax....adjust it, so that stuff you need to live isn't taxed, and stuff you don't need is taxed to hell

P.S. Am I forgetting any major third parties? I think I got all the big ones.


Socialist Party.

If there was a truly Fascist third party, I would support them. There is an American Fascist Party, but they are more like militant democrats with a maniac leader with the most ubsurd and retarded ideas which aren't even fascist.

Fascism is not Nazism.

If there was a truly Fascist third party, I would support them. There is an American Fascist Party, but they are more like militant democrats with a maniac leader with the most ubsurd and retarded ideas which aren't even fascist.

Fascism is not Nazism.

Neither Fascism nor Nazism is a good idea.

well that's why you change the sales tax....adjust it, so that stuff you need to live isn't taxed, and stuff you don't need is taxed to hell

But nonetheless the burden will fall on the poor. Not to mention that you'd be turning banks by definition into tax shelters.

I say to hell with taxes altogether! Seperate the state from the economy, eliminate all laws which violate individual freedoms, release all prisoners convicted under such laws, privatise all government assets then have the government responsible only for protecting individual rights by means of a police force at a local level and a defence force at a national level, with the defence force adopting an isolationist policy, both of which are funded by means of voluntary taxation.

You always have to have third party.
But generally having third party, fire and theft is better.