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So long guys...this may be the last and only election I'll ever see

Colodia
30-07-2004, 21:46
If Bush gets elected this November, it may be the last election you'll ever see. I may not get to graduate High School if Bush gets elected without getting killed by terrorists/int. coalition/Democratic Radicals.

So...let's all use this thread to show how much we fear Bush being elected in 2004.

Okay okay...maybe I laid it on a little too thick there. But you get the point/
Von Witzleben
30-07-2004, 21:47
So...let's all use this thread to show how much we fear Bush being elected in 2004.

Where is Lee Harvey Oswald when you need him?
Reynes
30-07-2004, 21:51
Where is Lee Harvey Oswald when you need him?Very funny. ASSHOLE. You suggest that the president should be assasinated because you don't like him?
The Lightning Star
30-07-2004, 21:51
Dont worry, there have been WAY more complicated and debated elections than this one. I actually want bush to be Re-elected. I think he has a firm policy and he hasnt changed. John Kerry, on teh other hand, changes his opinion too much. I like Bushs policies, they're firm, and they dont change like Kerry the Chamealeaons. I wont cast an Anti-Kerry vote, ill cast a pro-bush vote.
The Lightning Star
30-07-2004, 21:53
Very funny. ASSHOLE. You suggest that the president should be assasinated because you don't like him?

I agree. The only people in this world who deserve to be assasinated are Kim Jong-Il, Osama Bin LAden, and Ronald McDonald. ( i did ronald becaus he makes alot of fat people and he causes alot more heart attacks than before his existance)
Urban Isle
30-07-2004, 21:55
Michael Jordan Should run for prez. he would be awesome!
Scolopendra
30-07-2004, 21:55
Fat people who choose to eat the food themselves... meh, who am I kidding. Personal responsibility's out of vogue.
Rilindia
30-07-2004, 21:55
I'm not the "Run around waving the flag and a pic of Bush"
type person but Kerry is a broken record, seems the only thing he can
point to is his time in Vietnam. I think he did a Spiderman thing
and got people to videotape him while he was doing all his "heroic deeds."
The Lightning Star
30-07-2004, 22:00
I'm not the "Run around waving the flag and a pic of Bush"
type person but Kerry is a broken record, seems the only thing he can
point to is his time in Vietnam. I think he did a Spiderman thing
and got people to videotape him while he was doing all his "heroic deeds."

That is a possibility. Thats why i think bush would do better, at least we know him.
Lexwolf
30-07-2004, 22:01
Well, someone has been reading way too mcuh John Titor
The Captain
30-07-2004, 22:01
I cannot believe how many people actually think that President Bush will never step down from the presidency. If anybody ever tried that, nobody-- Republican and Democrat alike-- would stand for it.
Skin Cancer
30-07-2004, 22:02
Why not take part in an effigy-burning episode? Simply gather a number of like-minded individuals, and hurl a flammable representation of the president on to a large fire. Some sort of chanting "burn George, burn" would probably be in order.

Naturally, everyone involved should attempt to conceal their identity as law-enforcement officials, and more importantly media would be very interested in the proceedings and would certainly collect photographic evidence.
Urban Isle
30-07-2004, 22:08
so far, i want Nader to win, he hasn't messed up yet
Colodia
30-07-2004, 22:08
so far, i want Nader to win, he hasn't messed up yet
or done anything else besides make himself look like a fool
Gurnee
30-07-2004, 22:10
I'm with you whoever you are that started this thread (honestly I can't remember and don't feel like hitting the 'back' button either). As far as assasanating the president goes... if he can break the law why can't i?

Besides it would be a funny and ironic assasination if i used a weapon that would have been made illegal by any other administration besides his. But i wouldn't want to do that... i don't want to stoop to a level as low as his on any scale: politics, policies, intelligence (that's a big one), lying, cheating... you get the point.
Kilteria
30-07-2004, 22:12
the only way to not let Bush in the office for another 8 years is vote!
Katganistan
30-07-2004, 22:13
The only people in this world who deserve to be assasinated are ...Ronald McDonald. ( i did ronald becaus he makes alot of fat people and he causes alot more heart attacks than before his existance)

Not that the people who DECIDED TO EAT McDonald's three times a day, seven days a week have anything to do with that choice, right?

This is what's wrong with the world today... no one takes responsibility for the mess they make of their own lives.
Sanguinary Death
30-07-2004, 22:13
Well, I might not think this will be the last election that we're gonna see. But I am worried that bush will get relected, and I even voted for him last time. Man was that a mistake. Bush may not change with his policies but lets face it that's not a good thing when he's a moron and his policies suck, just my personal opinion so no one needs to get all hot and heavy over it. As for Kerry, I think there's alot more that has happened that we haven't seen that accounts for his appearent flip-flopping on things. After all isn't that possible? Of course what I'm really waiting for is the debates, and I'm shocked that there hasn't been one already. But of course since the debates are gonna be pretty much scripted with the questions give ahead of time and the answers prewritten they're not gonna be as much fun as if they weren't.
The Lightning Star
30-07-2004, 22:14
You know, nothing i say can get into your bush-hating minds. Bush didnt cheat during FLorida, if anything the MEDIA cheated, because it told half of florida that it was a gore state, He didnt LIE, he was given False information, I believe his Policies at least make SENSE, and he isnt changing them every 2 seconds *cough*kerry*cough*, and his Politics are fine, there have been worse presidents than him *cough* carter*cough*.
Skin Cancer
30-07-2004, 22:14
This is what's wrong with the world today... no one takes responsibility for the mess they make of their own lives.

Or, apparently, the mess they make of other peoples lives.
Gurnee
30-07-2004, 22:15
I cannot believe how many people actually think that President Bush will never step down from the presidency. If anybody ever tried that, nobody-- Republican and Democrat alike-- would stand for it.

Did you hear about the Bush Administration finding a loop hole in the laws that realted to that exact thing? There are no laws (and never were any) about moving back the election if the democratic process were threatened. the administration is wroking on a law right now that would give the authority to (suprise, suprise) the president to postpne an electiopn indefenatly. How could the election be threatened if Bush keeps insisting "America is safer"? You can't have it both ways mister uhhh... "president"...
Urban Isle
30-07-2004, 22:16
or done anything else besides make himself look like a fool


Doesn't everyone, I'd rather look like a fool than be a jackass
The Lightning Star
30-07-2004, 22:17
Did you hear about the Bush Administration finding a loop hole in the laws that realted to that exact thing? There are no laws (and never were any) about moving back the election if the democratic process were threatened. the administration is wroking on a law right now that would give the authority to (suprise, suprise) the president to postpne an electiopn indefenatly. How could the election be threatened if Bush keeps insisting "America is safer"? You can't have it both ways mister uhhh... "president"...

Do you have proof?
Gurnee
30-07-2004, 22:20
well other than that it was on all the major news networks after a huge, impossible-to-miss press release... no. But what more could you possibly want?

But seriously, here's a video for everyone. Just go to jibjab.com and clicke th huge thing that says 'click to play'. Democrats will ove it aswell as republicans. it pokes fun at bush and kerry, liberals, and conservatives.
Generic empire
30-07-2004, 22:20
Funny, I have the exact same fear of Kerry getting elected.
Odphi
30-07-2004, 22:24
After examining both sides of this issue and being fair on both ends I know in my heart that I cannot bring myself to vote for Bush. I do not agree with his stance on ESCR (Embryonic Stem Cell Research), I cannot forgive him for the Iraq war and the terrorism that will stem from it, and I cannot forgive him for using September 11, 2001 as a pretext to do whatever he feels will suffice.
Gurnee
30-07-2004, 22:27
c'mon people, everyone go watch the video at jibjab.com. The name may sound unproffessional but they have lots of established customers.
imported_Celeborne
30-07-2004, 22:31
After examining both sides of this issue and being fair on both ends I know in my heart that I cannot bring myself to vote for Bush. I do not agree with his stans on ESCR (Embryonic Stem Cell Research), I cannot forgive him for the Iraq war and the terrorism that will stem from it, and I cannot forgive him for using September 11, 2001 as a pretext to do whatever he feels will suffice.

I agree completely.
Microevil
30-07-2004, 22:31
Dont worry, there have been WAY more complicated and debated elections than this one. I actually want bush to be Re-elected. I think he has a firm policy and he hasnt changed. John Kerry, on teh other hand, changes his opinion too much. I like Bushs policies, they're firm, and they dont change like Kerry the Chamealeaons. I wont cast an Anti-Kerry vote, ill cast a pro-bush vote.

so you're saying that Kerry, a 30 year member of the senate should never change his stances with the times? You're one of those stupid people who take political ads as gospel aren't you? Perhaps you should do some real research on your own and try to find out why kerry votes the way he does on some things. People who call Kerry a flip flopper are completely ignorant of his motivations and the intricate facts. The world is not black and white, there is always a gray area, and john kerry seems to recognize that where as Bush seems to think it's his way or the highway. I'm not saying that kerry is the shit, I don't know as much about him as I would like to. But the Bush administration has been spewing lies ever since they were installed by the supreme court. I supported Bush during the 9-11 fiasco in 2001 and early 2002, but he squandered his chance to unite this country under his leadership when he insisted on starting a vendetta war in Iraq to take our eyes off the lack of progress he has been making in the real war on terror. And since then he has done everything he can to polarize this nation, and I'm sick of it. We have been through too much as a country in the past couple years to end up as divided as we are right now. United we stand, devided we fall.
Berkylvania
30-07-2004, 22:33
the only way to not let Bush in the office for another 8 years is vote!

Nope, he's had his four already. At most we only have to endure him for another four. But yes, the only way to not let Bush in the office for another four years is to indeed vote.
Katganistan
30-07-2004, 22:35
the only way to not let Bush in the office for another 8 years is vote!

LOL you do realize that he can only serve four more years, according to the Constitution, right? The same constitution he failed to change to make gay marriage illegal?
Crazenstein
30-07-2004, 22:38
Can you imagine living in a country with no set policies? Where they change every time public opinion shifted? Where the leader has no will of his own, and blindly follows the will of the uninformed masses without any judgement or stability?

I can. It would be a place called 'Kerry America'


Let's look at one major issue. The war on Iraq. Bush decides to attack because 1.) there is a possible al qaeda/iraq connection, involving antrax which al qaeda used against us and 2.) The Iraqi regime is corrupt, and needs removing, plain and simple. If the American government gassed an entire minority on a presidential whim, it would be our asses! But everyone sat back and watched as Saddam did it. He needed to go, and finally someone took action.

So some people were displeased with the war. Bush stood his ground and defended his position. What would Kerry have done? He would have backed out of it, to save political face. If Bush loses this election, it's not because he was a bad president. It's because the masses dislike a firm, stable president who can't be molded to their personal opinion.
Nufog
30-07-2004, 22:39
Lol Urban. Yes, go Nader. The problem is, he dropped from the presidential run. It's a bit hard to win that way, isn't it?
Katganistan
30-07-2004, 22:39
This is what's wrong with the world today... no one takes responsibility for the mess they make of their own lives.

Or, apparently, the mess they make of other peoples lives.


Funny, I don't see anyone holding a gun to anyone's head and saying, "A HAPPY MEAL OR YOUR LIFE!"
Diego-Winnebago
30-07-2004, 22:41
Everyone has the right to be wrong sometimes!

I, personally, would prefer President Bush to his opponent. I feel that Kerry blows with the wind, does not have an actual opinion or conviction on any issue. He makes much of the purple hearts he received for Vietnam. However, he claimed to burn them when it was popular to protest against Vietnam. But NOW he claims that he just burned the ribbons. He hasn't produced the medals to prove that, though.

The way I see it, either Kerry's lying to us now, or he was lying to America back then. Whichever is true, I see it as evidence that he's a liar and cannot be trusted. I feel that GWB can be trusted, that he is a solid choice. At least we can know where he stands on issues. It doesn't change from day to day, and he doesn't support America's turn to immorality. If you let Kerry have his way, people would be marrying their dogs or something. Bush believes that marriage should be defined as a specific relationship between a man and a woman, one of the big issues for me. If we don't support morality in this country, how long do you think it will be before we go the way of the Roman Empire, which was like us once--the most powerful nation on Earth.
Khallad Barr
30-07-2004, 22:46
If Bush gets elected this November, it may be the last election you'll ever see. I may not get to graduate High School if Bush gets elected without getting killed by terrorists/int. coalition/Democratic Radicals.

So...let's all use this thread to show how much we fear Bush being elected in 2004.


Oh I felt the same way about Regan in 1984, I was sure I was not going to be turned into radioactive dust before graduation.

That fate, for the most part, has been avoided.
Siljhouettes
30-07-2004, 22:47
Welcome to Total War 2006!

1. Iraq is in chaos, as various psychotic warlords destroy the country in their quest to destroy the ever weakening government. There are no US troops there because...

2. The War in Iran is proving unwinnable. One soldier says, "I was in Iraq, but I tell ya, this is the new Vietnam!" The Islamic government continues to fight back, supported by a Taliban-backed army of fanatical snipers and bombers (you don't want to know what they're doing in Afghanistan). In August, this group launches simultaneous mass suicide bombings on US-occupied cities and bases. Four thousand people are killed, most of them Iranians. Scout ships, one of which may or may not contain a future US president, stalk the Persian Gulf.

Since Bush took office, 22,000 US troops have been killed in wars and 11,000 Americans have been killed in terror attacks at home. Unfortunately, the American public don't know this because the media is rigouously censored by the huge government.

3. Ever since the 2005 destruction of the Capitol and the Sears Tower in Chicago by terrorists, all branches of the US Gov't have moved to the White House. The Usa Patriot Act 3 has banned criticism of the increasingly permanent War on Terror.

4. Millions of Americans loot McDonalds outlets in a struggle to survive. Ten million of them are unemployed since the onset of this Second Great Depression. Things are not looking up since the deficit passed $1.4 trillion.

5. All millionaires and billionaires have gathered in Washington DC, where the last of the army defends them from the angry mobs.

6. NATO is in shambles, even the UK is not a part of the Iran war. Most EU countries have cut off diplomatic relations with the US ever since Bush's anti-European propaganda campaign. Most European businesses have pulled out too, adding to the woes of the world economy. American's only friend in the whole world is Israel, which it struggles to afford to support.

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OK, I know these are ridiculously exaggerated situations but it sums up our fears. We fear that Bush will put the US in a state of permanent war, and do various other things to turn it into a George Orwell novel. Not to mention alienating the international community.
Ceaserman
30-07-2004, 22:56
I only read the 1st post sorry if what I say is already mentioned

There have been 0 attacks on American soil after 9/11. 0! ZERO.

thats a d*mn good track record in a time like this. and don't you think for one second that the terrorist haven't been trying. but because of Bush we are safe! SAFE!!!!! So don't worry be happy...

I'm not even going to attempt to tell everyone how wrong Siljhouettes is
Skin Cancer
30-07-2004, 22:57
Funny, I don't see anyone holding a gun to anyone's head and saying, "A HAPPY MEAL OR YOUR LIFE!"

If you provide a product or service which is harmful to other people, do you need to force people to use it in order for it to be a "bad thing"?

If I manufacture a soda that causes sleep disorders, am I absolved of all responsibility provided I do not force anyone to drink it?
Colodia
30-07-2004, 23:03
I only read the 1st post sorry if what I say is already mentioned

There have been 0 attacks on American soil after 9/11. 0! ZERO.

thats a d*mn good track record in a time like this. and don't you think for one second that the terrorist haven't been trying. but because of Bush we are safe! SAFE!!!!! So don't worry be happy...

I'm not even going to attempt to tell everyone how wrong Siljhouettes is
and there was no anthrax. It was all propaganda
Siljhouettes
30-07-2004, 23:13
I'm not even going to attempt to tell everyone how wrong Siljhouettes is
Since my post consisted entirely of speculaiton about future events, I don't see how I was either wrong or right. I'm not pretending that these were facts.
Odphi
30-07-2004, 23:19
Take a look around the world and look at how many people resent the United States. How does that make you feel?
The Lightning Star
30-07-2004, 23:21
so you're saying that Kerry, a 30 year member of the senate should never change his stances with the times? You're one of those stupid people who take political ads as gospel aren't you? Perhaps you should do some real research on your own and try to find out why kerry votes the way he does on some things. People who call Kerry a flip flopper are completely ignorant of his motivations and the intricate facts. The world is not black and white, there is always a gray area, and john kerry seems to recognize that where as Bush seems to think it's his way or the highway. I'm not saying that kerry is the shit, I don't know as much about him as I would like to. But the Bush administration has been spewing lies ever since they were installed by the supreme court. I supported Bush during the 9-11 fiasco in 2001 and early 2002, but he squandered his chance to unite this country under his leadership when he insisted on starting a vendetta war in Iraq to take our eyes off the lack of progress he has been making in the real war on terror. And since then he has done everything he can to polarize this nation, and I'm sick of it. We have been through too much as a country in the past couple years to end up as divided as we are right now. United we stand, devided we fall.

Thanks for disagreeing with me without flaming.
The Lightning Star
30-07-2004, 23:24
And what horrible thing have i sparked? In every 5 posts therres a mention of McDonalds!
The Lightning Star
30-07-2004, 23:25
and there was no anthrax. It was all propaganda

.. Your joking, right? What do yuo think it was that kileld all those postal workers? Your almost as bad as that person who wanted Lee Harvey Oswald to Assinate GWB...
Ashmoria
30-07-2004, 23:27
I cannot believe how many people actually think that President Bush will never step down from the presidency. If anybody ever tried that, nobody-- Republican and Democrat alike-- would stand for it.
yeah thats just NUTZ. i knew people who thought the same thing about clinton
no american president would ever do that.
i dont like bush but i certainly dont believe he is a traitor or potential dictator.
Ashmoria
30-07-2004, 23:35
bush scares me

his policies are a disaster for the united states

how does he even qualify as a republican? it used to make SENSE to support the republican party. now if youre not rich or a gun nut, there is no reason to be a republican.

republicans used to be fiscal conservatives. they fought every year for a balanced budget. they opposed the democratic policy of tax and spend. now they are DONT tax and spend. this is a way worse policy. who is going to pay for this huge deficit? YOU ARE!

republicans used to be strong on national defense. its NOT good defense policy to invade countries who havent done anything to us. especially when we have serious issues to deal with in the rest of the world. our military is stretched thin because bush lied to us about the need to invade iraq. we lose more men and women every day. dead and wounded. every day. because he lied to us.

he should not only not be re-elected. he should have to turn in his republican party membership card
Colodia
31-07-2004, 00:31
.. Your joking, right? What do yuo think it was that kileld all those postal workers? Your almost as bad as that person who wanted Lee Harvey Oswald to Assinate GWB...
I was being sarcastic to the guy that said there was only one attack on America since 9/11...


ouch, that really hurt!

btw, got any nations on Earth II you'd care to negotiate for? (TG meh)
Siljhouettes
31-07-2004, 02:22
bush scares me

his policies are a disaster for the united states

how does he even qualify as a republican? it used to make SENSE to support the republican party. now if youre not rich or a gun nut, there is no reason to be a republican.
I regretfully report that your party has been hijacked.