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John Kerry

Enodscopia
30-07-2004, 16:09
Maybe its just me but has Kerry ever explained how he was going to do what he promising. Everyone wants more jobs but you can't just say MORE JOBS and they are there, what is his plans. He is promising everything to everyone and that does not work.
Stephistan
30-07-2004, 16:11
From Kerry's website..

Create Good-Paying Jobs
As president, John Kerry will cut taxes for businesses that create jobs here in America instead of moving them overseas. John Kerry and John Edwards will also stand up for workers by enforcing our trade agreements

Invest In The Jobs Of Tomorrow
Today, businesses are harnessing new technology to manufacture energy-efficient cars, high-grade steel, advanced plastics and other new products. And this requires a bigger, skilled labor force to make them. John Kerry and John Edwards believe we should invest in these jobs and invest in the people who will fill them.
CanuckHeaven
30-07-2004, 16:27
Maybe its just me but has Kerry ever explained how he was going to do what he promising. Everyone wants more jobs but you can't just say MORE JOBS and they are there, what is his plans. He is promising everything to everyone and that does not work.
Bush promised "MORE JOBS" through his expensive "tax cuts" that favoured the highest income earners. Where are those jobs?

http://jec.senate.gov/democrats/charts/bush_pvtjobs70.gif

More data regarding the Bush economic performance:

http://jec.senate.gov/democrats/ber.htm
1248B
30-07-2004, 16:29
Bush promised "MORE JOBS" through his expensive "tax cuts" that favoured the highest income earners. Where are those jobs?

In China.
CanuckHeaven
30-07-2004, 16:31
In China.
Actually I heard that they were in India? :rolleyes:
1248B
30-07-2004, 16:36
Actually I heard that they were in India? :rolleyes:

Well, at least the jobs are somewhere. :rolleyes:
Roach-Busters
30-07-2004, 16:46
Well, at least the jobs are somewhere. :rolleyes:

Anyway, they're not here, that's for sure. :rolleyes:
Stephistan
30-07-2004, 16:48
:rolleyes:

I just had to post that as I don't feel that emoticon had been used enough.. :D
LV-486
30-07-2004, 17:01
Bush snoozed and losed. He wants four more? When will this man understand this is a job, not a right. If anyone fucked up in mis-management like he did in the real world, he would have been fired, no need for an election...

Really tho- he doesnt really want the job. He wanted to be baseball commissioner or hanging out on his ranch, hes a simple man with a simple narrow mind. Set him free! Elect Kerry!
HannibalSmith
30-07-2004, 17:16
Doesn't Heinz have plants all around the world too? Plus I don't know what you people are thinking, but if you want to get a job, there are many out there. It shouldn't be up to the government to gurantee any jobs, this isn't a socialist state, is it? Tax cuts keep companies here, thereby giving them the ability to expand, thus hiring more workers.
Stephistan
30-07-2004, 17:19
Doesn't Heinz have plants all around the world too?

John Kerry and his wife have nothing to do with the Heinz business. His wife heads up a charity endowment that's it and it all goes to people in the USA.

Source (http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp)
Roach-Busters
30-07-2004, 17:20
Doesn't Heinz have plants all around the world too? Plus I don't know what you people are thinking, but if you want to get a job, there are many out there. It shouldn't be up to the government to gurantee any jobs, this isn't a socialist state, is it? Tax cuts keep companies here, thereby giving them the ability to expand, thus hiring more workers.

Agreed.
HannibalSmith
30-07-2004, 17:26
Why does everyone on the left think he is so stupid? Can you actually prove his intellect? Personally I don't care because of my libertarian views, but you can't actually judge someone by the words they use. Remember Einstein, did you ever hear any interviews with him, he was terrible. Besides he does have an MBA, do you? It's not the easiest degree to get. But I'm probably wrong as I'm sure you have a Phd in Astro Physics. I always thought you should not judge if you live in a glass house. Sure he's daddys' boy and all, but then Kerry is so rich, with his 5 houses, his botox, and his Lurch good looks, that he can understand the common man. People need to wake up, all politicians are fool of it, and if you don't believe it then you have some serious issues. Vote "none of the above!"
Hermie
30-07-2004, 17:30
John Kerry and his wife have nothing to do with the Heinz business. His wife heads up a charity endowment that's it and it all goes to people in the USA.

Source (http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp)

They have nothing to do with Heinz - except for the vast fortune.
Stephistan
30-07-2004, 17:34
They have nothing to do with Heinz - except for the vast fortune.

Teresa Heinz only owns 4% of Heinz stock, which is far less stock then what Chenney owns in Halliburton actually.
HannibalSmith
30-07-2004, 17:41
Teresa Heinz only owns 4% of Heinz stock, which is far less stock then what Chenney owns in Halliburton actually.

Gotta love that Haliburton!!! ;)
Jeldred
30-07-2004, 17:45
Why does everyone on the left think he is so stupid?

His inability to reliably construct a coherent sentence doesn't boost my confidence in Bush's intellectual capacity. Of course this could be due to the neurological damage sustained by all those years of heavy drinking -- so maybe he made himself stupid, instead of it being natural. Which is a pretty stupid thing to do. His inability to develop simple mental models of likely future scenarios is another piece of evidence, e.g. the pre-election interview where he was asked if he knew the name of the General who had just recently installed himszelf as ruler of Pakistan, which Bush didn't know. But, instead of saying something like, "Offhand, I couldn't tell you, but if I needed to speak to him I'm sure I'd manage fine," he decided to lie and say "Yes". When -- inevitably, as a 5-year-old child could have forseen -- the interviewer asked, "And his name is...?", all Bush could do was to say, "General." Priceless. Deeply worring, and indicative of a wannabe-devious although wholly ineffectual mind, but still priceless. His mumbling incoherence and requirement to be operated by remote control during press conferences could also be cited.

I could go on: his tendency to fall off things, his ability to be floored by common snackfoods, etc., but it rapidly becomes depressing. The best evidence is in 1) what he says, and 2) what he does. Hell, it's hardly the first time a stupid man has ended up running America. Reagan wasn't exactly the sharpest knife in the box, and poor old Ford will be forever known as "the man who couldn't fart and chew gum at the same time."

People need to wake up, all politicians are fool of it, and if you don't believe it then you have some serious issues. Vote "none of the above!"

Oh Lord yes. People are of course conditioned by their primate ancestry to look up to and revere the alpha male, and cognitive dissonance can be counted on to make people want to believe that their leaders are good and wise and capable people, when in reality many are merely aggressive and at best devious. Although I personally think that Bush is so bad, and so deep in the pockets of a tiny minority of America's super-rich elite, that practically anybody would be better, and I would urge all Americans -- even if, as is probably likely, you do not have a candidate who represents you and yours -- to get rid of him, before his cronies loot your nation and high-tail it over the horizon along with the economy of the developed world.
Berkylvania
30-07-2004, 18:08
Actually I heard that they were in India? :rolleyes:

Actually, you're both right. The current LCC, Low Cost Country, is still India, for the time being. However, global corporations are looking hard at China as being the next LCC since India is starting to run out of steam and their infrastructure can not support the increasing demands of job exporting. China presents an attractive picture, but the governmental red tape corporations have to go through to get there is so great that India is still the better buy, currently. This may change in the near future, though, as China begins to court more foreign investment. Companies will leave India for workers in China where they'll cost even less and pay even smaller salaries.