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I've got an idea as to who the Blue Viper really is, and I'll reveal it here for your viewing pleasure as soon as I'm sure I've got her attention.

Congratulations, OE, you are now stalker number 8!

And since when do you make your grand return to NS?

I didn't make a grand return, I'm just in and out, and I'm not a stalker, something just occurred to me a while back and I haven't really had a chance to put it forth.

My theory, and one which I have some reasoning behind, is that The Blue Viper was formerly known as Parratoga and perhaps others, though I have no links to further aliases. Chance are pretty good that your denying (if you even will) it won't change my opinion and that neither of us will be able to really convince anyone else of anything and they'll all just go on their way.

If I'm right but you want to keep your cover but are willing to tell me, deny it and send me a telegram.

That's pretty funny.

Before I make any statements, can I ask how you came about this assumption?

My theory, and one which I have some reasoning behind, is that The Blue Viper was formerly known as Parratoga and perhaps others, though I have no links to further aliases. Chance are pretty good that your denying (if you even will) it won't change my opinion and that neither of us will be able to really convince anyone else of anything and they'll all just go on their way.

oddly enough, that's always been my assumption on the matter too.

course, i also think half the libertarians around here are all ithuania (or however it was spelled)...

That's pretty funny.

Before I make any statements, can I ask how you came about this assumption?

Mostly it's just feel, but in particular Parratoga was fixated whenever car threads came around with Vipers and would always post the same picture of a blue viper with the same paint job as the one that appears on your blog. The strange thing is that I have absolutely no idea how I first came to be at your blog. Also, you came around as Parratoga was slowly waning. You seem to frequent many of the same places Parratoga did, although in a different capacity and for whatever reason I just figured you were.

You know there are quite a number of people (namely on the FUA forums) and old threads of my last nation that would easily prove otherwise.

You could ask Sephiroth. Apparently he and Para were close.

[gasp]

PS: No really. How did you come about that assumption. :confused:

I didn't make a grand return, I'm just in and out, and I'm not a stalker, something just occurred to me a while back and I haven't really had a chance to put it forth.

My theory, and one which I have some reasoning behind, is that The Blue Viper was formerly known as Parratoga and perhaps others, though I have no links to further aliases. Chance are pretty good that your denying (if you even will) it won't change my opinion and that neither of us will be able to really convince anyone else of anything and they'll all just go on their way.

If I'm right but you want to keep your cover but are willing to tell me, deny it and send me a telegram.

That's what I've thought on more than a few occasions.

Mostly it's just feel, but in particular Parratoga was fixated whenever car threads came around with Vipers and would always post the same picture of a blue viper with the same paint job as the one that appears on your blog. The strange thing is that I have absolutely no idea how I first came to be at your blog. Also, you came around as Parratoga was slowly waning. You seem to frequent many of the same places Parratoga did, although in a different capacity and for whatever reason I just figured you were.


Fair enough. I knew that the main point was pivoted on the Dodge Viper. We always shared that.
I expect we frequented the same places because we were friends of sorts and shared the same interests. She used to accompany me on streaking ventures in the beginning. I know that if I was Parra, I don't think I could streak two nations at the same time no matter how great my streaking talent be.

I don't know how to explain the picture though. I used it as an avatar on FUA so maybe she stole it from me.

You know there are quite a number of people (namely on the FUA forums) and old threads of my last nation that would easily prove otherwise.

You could ask Sephiroth. Apparently he and Para were close.

I've never been to FUA, mostly because it has, for reasons passing understanding, been blacklisted here. The beauty of lying on the internet is that you can create "trustworthy" outsiders the verify your stories without the need for other actual people. And even if there were other people involved they could as easily lie to protect your false identity (not that any Parratoga is any more or less true that The Blue Viper) as you could.

I'm afraid there's nothing much that Sephiroth could tell me that would be meaningful. Most likely he'd just say he has no idea because his experience with you is much less than his experience with Parratoga. Short of you telling me that I'm right I don't think there's much that can be convinced, though at the same time if you deny it enough I'll eventually just give up.

That's what I've thought on more than a few occasions.


I can't believe so many people thought we were the same. Are we really that alike?

You know it's too bad that my old nation was deleted. I reckon there were a few threads in my list that could have shown you we are different entities.

But, meh... I could always parade around and pretend to be Para, but it's been so long since I've talked to her that I forget how she acted anyway.

Fair enough. I knew that the main point was pivoted on the Dodge Viper. We always shared that.
I expect we frequented the same places because we were friends of sorts and shared the same interests. She used to accompany me on streaking ventures in the beginning. I know that if I was Parra, I don't think I could streak two nations at the same time no matter how great my streaking talent be.

I don't know how to explain the picture though. I used it as an avatar on FUA so maybe she stole it from me.

I've put on a show with two nations at once, it isn't easy but it's not impossible either.

That's a little fishy, because I saw the blue viper picture from Parratoga long before you came to NS and long before FUA was created.

I can't believe so many people thought we were the same. Are we really that alike?

Very much alike, although I suspect that you are much more forward individual. Bob was very shy when it came down to it. I don't truly believe you and she are the same. There would be numerous hints that you could have dropped, inside jokes and the like, that only I would know that would clue me in. You haven't, yet. So, I don't think you are her.

Ooooh... that is tricky. I don't think I can explain that. I know I got mine off a random website, but that doesn't help my case does it?

And you're right. It isn't hard to put a show on with two nations. I've done it before with many of my puppets, but they were all deleted for flaming...

I've put on a show with two nations at once, it isn't easy but it's not impossible either.

That's a little fishy, because I saw the blue viper picture from Parratoga long before you came to NS and long before FUA was created.

It's damn easy. I can open multiple instances of IE and log into NS with different nations. Then I can make posts with different nations simultaneously. It wouldn't be hard for someone to pretend to be two different people.

It's damn easy. I can open multiple instances of IE and log into NS with different nations. Then I can make posts with different nations simultaneously. It wouldn't be hard for someone to pretend to be two different people.

Wouldn't you get invalid session errors because it's based on IPs?

Hmm... I just tried it out and it seems you can, at least on the new server, log in to two nations at once. I was pretty sure that you couldn't, at least no on the old server.

I pretend to be other people more frequently than you think. Since FUA seems to be dead & buried now, I may as well 'fess up that I was 'A Toaster'. I know Luna tumbled me, but I'm not sure if anyone else did.

However, I'm pretty sure that Viper isn't Parratoga. If she is, she's gone to a Hell of a lot of trouble to create her alter ego, including posting pics of herself, details about Adelaide uni, keeping to different timezones and some very well-researched Australianisms.


Unless of course, Parra was really Viper's puppet... :eek:

I pretend to be other people more frequently than you think. Since FUA seems to be dead & buried now, I may as well 'fess up that I was 'A Toaster'. I know Luna tumbled me, but I'm not sure if anyone else did.

However, I'm pretty sure that Viper isn't Parratoga. If she is, she's gone to a Hell of a lot of trouble to create her alter ego, including posting pics of herself, details about Adelaide uni, keeping to different timezones and some very well-researched Australianisms.


Unless of course, Parra was really Viper's puppet... :eek:

Wait uno momento por favor...pictures of TBV? I demand to see them! I demand satisfaction!

Wouldn't you get invalid session errors because it's based on IPs?

Nah. If I still had a puppet, I'd do it for you. But as it is, I don't have another nation to post with and I am much too lazy to create one.

Ya know for the longest time when you and Parra existed I thought you were just one of her puppets. And since I know personally she had plenty of puppets... who knows...

I'm saying this to viper.

I pretend to be other people more frequently than you think. Since FUA seems to be dead & buried now, I may as well 'fess up that I was 'A Toaster'. I know Luna tumbled me, but I'm not sure if anyone else did.

However, I'm pretty sure that Viper isn't Parratoga. If she is, she's gone to a Hell of a lot of trouble to create her alter ego, including posting pics of herself, details about Adelaide uni, keeping to different timezones and some very well-researched Australianisms.


Unless of course, Parra was really Viper's puppet... :eek:

Pictures of random people that no one will know are pretty easy to come by on the internet. I'm inclined to believe that the Adelaide stuff is real but all that really says is that if Parratoga and The Blue Viper are controlled by the same person then Parratoga was a "fake" personality before the real personality showed up.

If you think about it, every nation, even people's main nations are puppets of someone, so it's not meaningful to say that Parratoga could be a puppet of TBV or the other way around.

Actually, I'm one of Parra's puppets.

Muahaha!

In fact, Parra is really Max Barry, and most of the people here are just figments of his over-active imagination. :eek:

In fact, Parra is really Max Barry, and most of the people here are just figments of his over-active imagination. :eek:

That might explain why he once said that Nationstates was threatening to consume his entirely life.

In fact, Parra is really Max Barry, and most of the people here are just figments of his over-active imagination. :eek:
I wouldn't go that far... Parra had many puppets... and I am forced to believe that she lied quite a bit even in private conversations I had with her.

After my Marathon humiliation... where I gullibly believed the story of Marathon being a ten year old boy named John Smith.... I s'pose I found certain things she said... difficult to believe...

The internet really gives me a headache sometimes. There are so many people around pretending to be somebody they're not.

It reminds me of this theory that I had when I was a kid that I was really living in some sort of Matrix/Truman Show-like artificial world where everyone I knew was just an illusion created to keep me amused and fool me into thinking that there were other people in the world besides me, my parents and my sister.

Um, anyway. Enough about me and my warped imagination...

The internet really gives me a headache sometimes. There are so many people around pretending to be somebody they're not.

It reminds me of this theory that I had when I was a kid that I was really living in some sort of Matrix/Truman Show-like artificial world where everyone I knew was just an illusion created to keep me amused and fool me into thinking that there were other people in the world besides me, my parents and my sister.

Um, anyway. Enough about me and my warped imagination...
Or what if your the only one who is real... and everyone around you... you imagined... including me...

PUBLIC NOTICE: Thank you for not screwing with Morphine's mind. It is screwed-up enough already.

I think that you are all Parratoga and even Parra was a puppet of Max Barry's .

That's right.. Violet=MB=Parra=Blue Viper=Dredd=One Bad Asp= Fallen Angel= Sephiroth=Stephistan=Neut=Our Earth=Germanica=Amerigo=Beeker=Kits=Franko=Marathon etc..

One thing that I can assure you of, I am niether Max Barry nor Parra.

I think that you are all Parratoga and even Parra was a puppet of Max Barry's .

That's right.. Violet=MB=Parra=Blue Viper=Dredd=One Bad Asp= Fallen Angel= Sephiroth=Stephistan=Neut=Our Earth=Germanica=Amerigo=Beeker=Kits=Franko=Marathon etc..

One thing that I can assure you of, I am niether Max Barry nor Parra.

You're only saying that to disguise the fact that you are Max Barry, Parratoga and me.

And I thought everyone knew that Beeker was really a computer virus created by a super-intelligent 9-year old living in Mainland China that got out of control.

and dont forget....

The Red Arrow, was Micheal Moore.

Ancients of Mu Mu/Sweet Sister Morphine is really an infinite number of monkeys who post on NS/Fools Paradise in between shifts working on a new script for Hamlet.

Combine Parra's post count with Viper's post count (her first one). That person would have to have a LOT of time on their hands..

Combine Parra's post count with Viper's post count (her first one). That person would have to have a LOT of time on their hands..

Your point being?

I think this might be a good time for me to reveal who I really am...

I am the Earth. The honest to goodness, enourmous ball of stuff, Earth. I am a conscious being and frankly am quite tired of being called "Mother Earth" since I'm quite plainly male. Little do you realize it, but you are all spermatazoa floating in my enourmous testes waiting for the moment I release you to impregnate the galaxy.

The time is nearing for you to go forth, my tiny half-beings, to make your attempt at greatness, completeness, and life. though millions of you will die in the attempt, if even one makes it all the way to the center of the galaxy then all will not be lost. A new being will be formed and your collective purpose will be served.

(Just wait till you see the eggs, 50 feet high seemingly impenetrable spheres with a higher degree of perfection than the sun.)

I think this might be a good time for me to reveal who I really am...

I am the Earth. The honest to goodness, enourmous ball of stuff, Earth. I am a conscious being and frankly am quite tired of being called "Mother Earth" since I'm quite plainly male. Little do you realize it, but you are all spermatazoa floating in my enourmous testes waiting for the moment I release you to impregnate the galaxy.

The time is nearing for you to go forth, my tiny half-beings, to make your attempt at greatness, completeness, and life. though millions of you will die in the attempt, if even one makes it all the way to the center of the galaxy then all will not be lost. A new being will be formed and your collective purpose will be served.

(Just wait till you see the eggs, 50 feet high seemingly impenetrable spheres with a higher degree of perfection than the sun.)

So how's that working out for you?

Combine Parra's post count with Viper's post count (her first one). That person would have to have a LOT of time on their hands..

I've got a puppet with about as many posts as TVB and if you count the posts that Parra and I lost in purges we've got about the same total. It's not as hard to get this high as people think.

So how's that working out for you?

Aside from the whole male, female thing and the smog it's working out quite well.

Shhh...don't encourage her...(Parratoga that is.)

Wow. A parratoga threat.

I think that you are all Parratoga and even Parra was a puppet of Max Barry's .

That's right.. Violet=MB=Parra=Blue Viper=Dredd=One Bad Asp= Fallen Angel= Sephiroth=Stephistan=Neut=Our Earth=Germanica=Amerigo=Beeker=Kits=Franko=Marathon etc..

One thing that I can assure you of, I am niether Max Barry nor Parra.
More like Parra=Blue Viper=One Bad Asp= Fallen Angel= Sephiroth=Germanica=Franko=Marathon well the Marathon part... thats an ever so slight possibility.
And who the hell is Franko?

I think this might be a good time for me to reveal who I really am...

I am the Earth. The honest to goodness, enourmous ball of stuff, Earth. I am a conscious being and frankly am quite tired of being called "Mother Earth" since I'm quite plainly male. Little do you realize it, but you are all spermatazoa floating in my enourmous testes waiting for the moment I release you to impregnate the galaxy.

The time is nearing for you to go forth, my tiny half-beings, to make your attempt at greatness, completeness, and life. though millions of you will die in the attempt, if even one makes it all the way to the center of the galaxy then all will not be lost. A new being will be formed and your collective purpose will be served.

(Just wait till you see the eggs, 50 feet high seemingly impenetrable spheres with a higher degree of perfection than the sun.)
I don't know what's sadder... that you have to have sex with a galaxy or that your talking to your sperm.

I think you are all an agoraphobic, obssessive compulsive, paranoid psychotic, fat, bald guy named Lou.

More like Parra=Blue Viper=One Bad Asp= Fallen Angel= Sephiroth=Germanica=Franko=Marathon well the Marathon part... thats an ever so slight possibility.
And who the hell is Franko?

I don't know.. Franko Spain or whatever. Or was that a region? I'm starting to show my age as a nation.. I can't remember crap.

I don't know.. Franko Spain or whatever. Or was that a region? I'm starting to show my age as a nation.. I can't remember crap.
Well I don't remember no Franko... but never mind that Parratoga probably controlled that one, whatever its called.

obssessive compulsive
Woah there.... you came some time after me and you have almost double my post count...

I got ya there, didn't I, Lou?

More like Parra=Blue Viper=One Bad Asp= Fallen Angel= Sephiroth=Germanica=Franko=Marathon well the Marathon part... thats an ever so slight possibility.
And who the hell is Franko?


Whoa! Slow down sunshine! Is/was Parra Sephiroth? Because that would be really fucked up if it were true.

Can you be certain? Or is it just hearsay?

Whoa! Slow down sunshine! Is/was Parra Sephiroth? Because that would be really fucked up if it were true.

Can you be certain? Or is it just hearsay?
A guess... But then again you never know... On the internet you can not be scertain of anything.

Wow, because it's really screwed if they are the same. I don't know if you ever frequented FUA, Amerigo, but there was a large incident about Parra commiting suicide and Seph the one spreading the rumours.

Wow, because it's really screwed if they are the same. I don't know if you ever frequented FUA, Amerigo, but there was a large incident about Parra commiting suicide and Seph the one spreading the rumours.

Yeah, Seph's an ass because I was talking to Parra at least 2 weeks following that incident.

Ah, this takes me back...the good times with lots of spam when the old server actually worked quite well... Seeing Nyborg here and reading all the jibberjabber about Parra and Seph is just bringing it all back.

Ah, this takes me back...the good times with lots of spam when the old server actually worked quite well... Seeing Nyborg here and reading all the jibberjabber about Parra and Seph is just bringing it all back.

They sure were good times.

Back in the olden days...

Back in the olden days...

Before The Move.

[tells a pointless, rambling anecdote about onions]

Although, I will say that there is one thing I don't miss about the olden days: Snubis.

Although, I will say that there is one thing I don't miss about the olden days: Snubis.


Meh, I just ignored him mostly. Not worth the time.

Meh, I just ignored him mostly. Not worth the time.

I guess I didn't have the willpower to ignore him. To me, he was a giant, flashing neon sign telling me to argue.

I pretend to be other people more frequently than you think. Since FUA seems to be dead & buried now, I may as well 'fess up that I was 'A Toaster'. I know Luna tumbled me, but I'm not sure if anyone else did.

However, I'm pretty sure that Viper isn't Parratoga. If she is, she's gone to a Hell of a lot of trouble to create her alter ego, including posting pics of herself, details about Adelaide uni, keeping to different timezones and some very well-researched Australianisms.


Unless of course, Parra was really Viper's puppet... :eek:


well she has a Adelaide uni account which displays her real name, so im pretty convinced they are completly different people

I guess I didn't have the willpower to ignore him. To me, he was a giant, flashing neon sign telling me to argue.

That was why he was such an effective troll. I never debated him. So many others did though. Ah the good old days...

Well I thought Parratoga was a bit unkind. And Viper is really cool, so they aren't the same.

[tells a pointless, rambling anecdote about onions]


*rambles* We used to wear onions on our belt, coz it was the style at the time. We wore brown onions. You couldn't get white onions because of the war.

Anyway, the point of the story is we wore onions on our belt, because that was the style at the time...

*rambles* We used to wear onions on our belt, coz it was the style at the time. We wore brown onions. You couldn't get white onions because of the war.

Anyway, the point of the story is we wore onions on our belt, because that was the style at the time...

ahhhhhhh... Us old timers love those stories that don't go anywhere...

Wow, because it's really screwed if they are the same. I don't know if you ever frequented FUA, Amerigo, but there was a large incident about Parra commiting suicide and Seph the one spreading the rumours.
Actually thats one of the reasons... I thought it is a possibility.

ahhhhhhh... Us old timers love those stories that don't go anywhere...


Ah, m'dear Pimpster, what are you doing on this fine afternoon?

I demand that you spew forth random nonsense and amuse me!

Ah, m'dear Pimpster, what are you doing on this fine afternoon?

I demand that you spew forth random nonsense and amuse me!

I'm sitting at home on my day off not writing my script that's well overdue for my film+tv course. I have to get the bus to dads work in a few hours so that I can go to work for the evening. Currently I'm randomly listening to a CD I won last week which is from one of the shittest bands to come out of NZ, Deja Voodoo. They're shit, but they're shit that'll impress your stupid drunk friends. One of their songs is about Timaru, a town in the south island. There is a part where they name all the towns between timaru and christchurch, although one of the towns doesn't really fit in if you stay on the main route. Today is tuesday which is the name of one of the characters in one of those old time TV shows from when I was younger, that I'm thinking might be Blossom but I'm not sure. Man that show was shitty, although my sister watched it so I saw the odd episode being young and all. Old shows from the late 80s and early 90s are amusing because they all have bright clothes and stupid hair. They all should have gone for the MC Hammer look. One hit wonders are great. Like that tubthumping song about getting knocked down and getting up again or something. It became a theme song for various things but I don't remember them releasing another single. I probably thought that song was cool when I was 11. My NS nation is all screwy atm because I'm spending a few weeks changing it from a glorious capitalist dictatorship into a decent country to see how it works out. I'm trying to pick the options that I would choose, although half the time I wouldn't pick any of them. Writing random crap reminds me that I'm supposed to be emailing my friend who's in the states atm working on one of those camp america things. Speaking of going to america, the girl I have a thing for leaves for uni in the states in a few weeks but maybe I can score a goodbye pash at her leaving thing this weekend. but I doubt it. I'll have to go late because of the rugby. A man has to make these choices. Go the All Blacks! Man we have a good team this year, although I've realised that I could easily write several pages on rugby so I'll stop here.

-MP

I'm sitting at home on my day off not writing my script that's well overdue for my film+tv course. I have to get the bus to dads work in a few hours so that I can go to work for the evening. Currently I'm randomly listening to a CD I won last week which is from one of the shittest bands to come out of NZ, Deja Voodoo. They're shit, but they're shit that'll impress your stupid drunk friends. One of their songs is about Timaru, a town in the south island. There is a part where they name all the towns between timaru and christchurch, although one of the towns doesn't really fit in if you stay on the main route. Today is tuesday which is the name of one of the characters in one of those old time TV shows from when I was younger, that I'm thinking might be Blossom but I'm not sure. Man that show was shitty, although my sister watched it so I saw the odd episode being young and all. Old shows from the late 80s and early 90s are amusing because they all have bright clothes and stupid hair. They all should have gone for the MC Hammer look. One hit wonders are great. Like that tubthumping song about getting knocked down and getting up again or something. It became a theme song for various things but I don't remember them releasing another single. I probably thought that song was cool when I was 11. My NS nation is all screwy atm because I'm spending a few weeks changing it from a glorious capitalist dictatorship into a decent country to see how it works out. I'm trying to pick the options that I would choose, although half the time I wouldn't pick any of them. Writing random crap reminds me that I'm supposed to be emailing my friend who's in the states atm working on one of those camp america things. Speaking of going to america, the girl I have a thing for leaves for uni in the states in a few weeks but maybe I can score a goodbye pash at her leaving thing this weekend. but I doubt it. I'll have to go late because of the rugby. A man has to make these choices. Go the All Blacks! Man we have a good team this year, although I've realised that I could easily write several pages on rugby so I'll stop here.

-MP


Congratulations, Pimpster. Your post is the first one I've read for a long time that both defies the Rule of Scroll and is rambling in an amusing way.

You can have one of the Golden Pussycats that SD promised me for endorsing him.

Congratulations, Pimpster. Your post is the first one I've read for a long time that both defies the Rule of Scroll and is rambling in an amusing way.

You can have one of the Golden Pussycats that SD promised me for endorsing him.

Whooo :D

Well I thought Parratoga was a bit unkind. And Viper is really cool, so they aren't the same.
So? Some of my puppets are absolute bitches.

Although I must say I like Viper a lot more than I did Parra. With or without her pants on.

So? Some of my puppets are absolute bitches.

Although I must say I like Viper a lot more than I did Parra. With or without her pants on.


*sends a Golden Pussycat to the Sweet Sister*

*sends a Golden Pussycat to the Sweet Sister*
Yay!