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Proof that teenagers today should be shot.

Tyrandis
30-07-2004, 03:03
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=the_darkness_becomes_me

A brief history:
Some "goth" loser makes a webjournal to whine on.
Bear in mind that this twit is 13.
This guy's xanga page gets spread around the internet.
Various webforums note the incredible stupidity; comments spamming occurs.
Insane amounts of hilarity ensue.

I swear to god, if this is what teen culture is creating, mass executions of these morons needs to happen fast. Otherwise, the world will collapse into a second Dark Age.
Terra - Domina
30-07-2004, 03:04
indeed

i get to go back to high school too..... yeah
Von Witzleben
30-07-2004, 03:04
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=the_darkness_becomes_me

A brief history:
Some "goth" loser makes a webjournal to whine on.
Bear in mind that this twit is 13.
This guy's xanga page gets spread around the internet.
Various webforums note the incredible stupidity; comments spamming occurs.
Insane amounts of hilarity ensue.

I swear to god, if this is what teen culture is creating, mass executions of these morons needs to happen fast. Otherwise, the world will collapse into a second Dark Age.
Thank god you react in a mature way to this. :rolleyes:
Sliders
30-07-2004, 03:07
Thank god you react in a mature way to this. :rolleyes:
yeah, tyrandis....I'm not sure I get your point...
Pax Salam
30-07-2004, 03:08
If you shot all the teenagers....who would be the adults?

http://www.megatokyo.com/index.php?strip_id=579
Roach-Busters
30-07-2004, 03:11
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=the_darkness_becomes_me

A brief history:
Some "goth" loser makes a webjournal to whine on.
Bear in mind that this twit is 13.
This guy's xanga page gets spread around the internet.
Various webforums note the incredible stupidity; comments spamming occurs.
Insane amounts of hilarity ensue.

I swear to god, if this is what teen culture is creating, mass executions of these morons needs to happen fast. Otherwise, the world will collapse into a second Dark Age.

Just out of curiosity: how old are you?
Roach-Busters
30-07-2004, 03:12
Say, Tyrandis, you could make that a thread in International Incidents. 'Mass Executions of Teenagers Begins,' or something. Hey, it could work!
Nadejda 2
30-07-2004, 03:16
He considered those interests?
Xenophobialand
30-07-2004, 03:16
If you shot him, wouldn't you be doing him a favor? He seems to want death.

On the larger scale, though, do you really think that this is reflective of all teenagers? By that standard, all baby boomers should be shot for their egotism and self-aggrandizement.
Von Witzleben
30-07-2004, 03:20
Some "goth" loser makes a webjournal to whine on.

Hey, hold on. Is this your journal?
Letila
30-07-2004, 03:32
His interests include vampirism and suicide!
Sliders
30-07-2004, 03:35
His interests include vampirism and suicide!
his expertise is also in suicide
though he seems to really suck at it if you ask me
Von Witzleben
30-07-2004, 03:35
His interests include vampirism and suicide!
So?
New Fubaria
30-07-2004, 03:41
The gothic subculture (like many cultures) has two distinct groups: the "true-blues" and the "wannabes". This guy is a definite wannabe.

I have a lot of friends who are goths that are not the pathetic tosser that this guy is. Here's an identification tip - if they are obsessed with suicide and/or Marilyn Manson, they are wannabes (most "real" gothic music is bands that 99% of the population has never heard of).

Unfortunately, post-Columbine, all "goths" get tarred with the same brush...just like how metalheads were demonised after James Vance topped himself listening to Judas Priest.
Rhyno D
30-07-2004, 03:42
Wow...that is pretty pathetic, and I've seen pathetic people. I actually know of someone worse than that, but out of courtesy, I won't mention their name...

Actually, it's because I don't have a journel or link for them...drat...
Von Witzleben
30-07-2004, 03:43
The gothic subculture (like many cultures) has two distinct groups: the "true-blues" and the "wannabes". This guy is a definite wannabe.

I have a lot of friends who are goths that are not the pathetic tosser that this guy is. Here's an identification tip - if they are obsessed with suicide and/or Marilyn Manson, they are wannabes (most "real" gothic music is bands that 99% of the population has never heard of).

Unfortunately, post-Columbine, all "goths" get tarred with the same brush...just like how metalheads were demonised after James Vance topped himself listening to Judas Priest.
Into what category do Nightwish and Within Temptation fall into?
Eridanus
30-07-2004, 03:45
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=the_darkness_becomes_me

A brief history:
Some "goth" loser makes a webjournal to whine on.
Bear in mind that this twit is 13.
This guy's xanga page gets spread around the internet.
Various webforums note the incredible stupidity; comments spamming occurs.
Insane amounts of hilarity ensue.

I swear to god, if this is what teen culture is creating, mass executions of these morons needs to happen fast. Otherwise, the world will collapse into a second Dark Age.

I see you're a great grown up and mature adult. I don't really appreciate you saying that my people should die. We're the future, and even though this one...is I admit...a little weird, you shouldn't talk about us liek that. THat's exactly the kind of thing we do on a regular basis!
Daistallia 2104
30-07-2004, 03:47
His interests include vampirism and suicide!

his expertise is also in suicide
though he seems to really suck at it if you ask me

Interests: CUTTING, VAMPIRISIM, WITCH CRAFT,POETRY,SUICIDE,WRITING,DARKNESS, GOTHISM
Expertise: DEPRESSION, SUICIDE, BEING GOTH, INSAINITY, DEATH. YOU DONT REALLY CARE THOUGH DO YOU?

He also lists death as an "expertise", something at which he also seems to suck at.
New Fubaria
30-07-2004, 03:48
Into what category do Nightwish and Within Temptation fall into?

I haven't heard Within Temptation, but I would maybe call Nightwish "gothic-prog-metal". I've got a buddy who does the local progressive metal radio show in my town - I'll ask him his opinion next time I speak to him.
Kryozerkia
30-07-2004, 03:49
If you don't like it... simple: DON'T READ IT!!
The Zoogie People
30-07-2004, 03:50
Bear in mind that this twit is 13.


So shoot me, I'm thirteen. This is...well...sad...but I trust that you're not immediately generalizing on the teenage race?
Kryozerkia
30-07-2004, 03:55
So shoot me, I'm thirteen. This is...well...sad...but I trust that you're not immediately generalizing on the teenage race?
I think this moron is, or at least seems to.
I remember what it was like to be a teen - and that was a whole 2 years ago that I was once one.
Rhyno D
30-07-2004, 03:57
Interests: CUTTING, VAMPIRISIM, WITCH CRAFT,POETRY,SUICIDE,WRITING,DARKNESS, GOTHISM
Expertise: DEPRESSION, SUICIDE, BEING GOTH, INSAINITY, DEATH. YOU DONT REALLY CARE THOUGH DO YOU?
He also lists death as an "expertise", something at which he also seems to suck at.

Being goth is something you can have expertise in? Hmm...that'd be an interesting college course, "Goth 101"
As far as insanity goes...Please, this guy couldn't get into a psyche ward if he tried. School counselor, sure, but everyone knows they're pointless.
And as far as vampirism goes: STOP WATCHING BUFFY RERUNS! IT'S NOT REAL!
New Fubaria
30-07-2004, 03:58
Here's something to consider, by the way - everyone who sends this guy hate mail or publicly calls him a loser is doing exactly wants he wants, and that is give him attention and play into his depression and victimisation fantasies.

Honestly, at the end of the day, it wouldn't surprise to discover this page is a big practical joke written by some 30 year old with a warped sense of humour...;)
Tyrandis
30-07-2004, 04:09
So shoot me, I'm thirteen. This is...well...sad...but I trust that you're not immediately generalizing on the teenage race?

Of course not... I meant to include only morons like this guy.

Stupid of me posting before thinking :(

Oh well. Time to edit.
New Foxxinnia
30-07-2004, 04:18
This kid should stop whining.
Kahrstein
30-07-2004, 04:23
I am an advocate of compulsory euthanasia for everyone under five.
CSW
30-07-2004, 04:29
Err...on behalf of most sane teenagers (yes, we do exist), I'd like to offer an apology for that page even existing.
The Land of the Enemy
30-07-2004, 04:40
I see no reason to really complain about this. I personally find the "goth" lifestyle hilarious. They mope around all the time and bitch and moan about how the world is so unfair and how they're going to kill them selves all the time. The only reason they do this is because they just want pity. I say instead of killing them, which is what they say they want, we should simply ignore them. They'll give up soon enough if people dont take notice of their "suffering and agony."


If there was anything to pity about that kid it, would be his frickin' grammar and spelling. Nothing else.
Alucadia
30-07-2004, 04:55
Yeah...don't give into this dude's need for attention and victimizing. It's what he wants and expects. Either ignore him, or annoy the hell outta him by telling him to cheer up and such! Ooh! I gave myself an idea! I'm gonna go spread good cheer to the goths of the internet!
Cuneo Island
30-07-2004, 05:04
I get tired of the people my age that act depressed to get attention.
Hajekistan
30-07-2004, 05:06
YOU DONT REALLY CARE THOUGH DO YOU?
This is the most accurate statement I have ever heard come from the keyboard of anyone under 16. I don't know why, but I find that the funniest thing I have read today.
Doomduckistan
30-07-2004, 05:30
He lists suicide as an expertise, but judging from the fact that he continues to enter new entries, he might be overstating his ability to stop his own life.

I'm 14, and I feel like an old 'un- I'm already yearning for back before I was born, when the music was real music. But that's only because of the general suckitude of today's music...

As for this guy, he's going to get infected and die after whatever he uses to give "blood offerings" becomes dirty. Even a mighty vampite as he needs a Tetanus shot every now and then...
Kanabia
30-07-2004, 05:35
Of course not... I meant to include only morons like this guy.

Stupid of me posting before thinking :(

Oh well. Time to edit.

Ah, good, I was going to start a flame war over that. Hehe :D

Man, that website is so hilariously stereotypical. A "suicidal" goth who is into vampirism and death and evil stuff like that, Hmm.

Well, at least he's not Emo.
Colodia
30-07-2004, 05:36
Ah, good, I was going to start a flame war over that. Hehe :D

Man, that website is so hilariously stereotypical. A "suicidal" goth who is into vampirism and death and evil stuff like that, Hmm.

Well, at least he's not Emo.
or Otaku

*shudders*
CSW
30-07-2004, 05:37
or Otaku

*shudders*
Pardon?
Colodia
30-07-2004, 05:39
Pardon?
kids that're REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY into anime/manga.
Kanabia
30-07-2004, 05:40
I'm 14, and I feel like an old 'un- I'm already yearning for back before I was born, when the music was real music. But that's only because of the general suckitude of today's music...

There's still heaps of good bands around, you just have to find 'em.
CSW
30-07-2004, 05:41
kids that're REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY into anime/manga.
Oh. That sounds bad, glad we don't have those around here. (Though we do have many asians. This a new thing?)
Kanabia
30-07-2004, 05:46
or Otaku

*shudders*

Hahaha, heaps of the shirts that Otaku people wear say things like "I am a stupid foreigner" and "I want you to be my boyfriend."

(I can read Japanese)
Ngasech
30-07-2004, 05:49
how sad. whats mood wrecking about it is the possibility that my own (future) child may become like that

Hahaha, heaps of the shirts that Otaku people wear say things like "I am a stupid foreigner" and "I want you to be my boyfriend."
course, that just makes my night :D
Ancients of Mu Mu
30-07-2004, 05:51
I don't believe that all teenagers should be shot. However I have long held the belief that being incredibly stupid should be a jailable offence. Logically, this would mean the mandatory detention of most people under the age of 18. It would also facilitate the permanent incarceration of Pauline Hanson.

Also, self-harm IS NOT A FUCKING HOBBY, YOU TOOL! :mad:
Erinin
30-07-2004, 05:52
I have been out of HighSchool about 11 years now.
We had Gothfreaks(No offense that was what they were called).
And while they did listen to similar music to my particular set.
The did kindof apprear similar to Goths now, they were not as whiny and pathetic.
I was friends with this Vietnamese kid who was a complete gothfreak(he didnt have to dye his har though) he would white his face(looked really cool actually, him being asian it had a surreal quality). He would go with me and my friends to the mall where we would set furniture on fire, or rough up preps, or what ever mindles beavis and butthead action we were into that day.
He would just accost people with bizzare statements, or sexually harrass preppy guys or jocks(he knew we would protect him) he wasnt gay mind you he just enjoyed watching people squirm, that was how he got attention paid to him, not by pissing all over himself about how poopy the world is, I hate it --stamps feet like small child----
Sdaeriji
30-07-2004, 05:52
I was about to get all defensive and argue that not all teenagers are like that monkey, then I realized I haven't been a teenager for almost 3 years.
CSW
30-07-2004, 05:53
I don't believe that all teenagers should be shot. However I have long held the belief that being incredibly stupid should be a jailable offence. Logically, this would mean the mandatory detention of most people under the age of 18. It would also facilitate the permanent incarceration of Pauline Hanson.

Also, self-harm IS NOT A FUCKING HOBBY, YOU TOOL! :mad:
Any moron who thinks that it is a hobby and something to be proud of obviously doesn't cut/harm himself.
Doomduckistan
30-07-2004, 05:54
Any moron who thinks that it is a hobby and something to be proud of obviously doesn't cut/harm himself.

Who knows? He could raise the world standard IQ average and earn a Darwin Award by making a sacrifice of blood to fellow vampires...

Like I said, even a mighty Vampire like him needs a tetanus shot if you use rusty metal to cut yourself.
Arammanar
30-07-2004, 05:55
Other Xanga sites of note...
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=the_lightness_becomes_me
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=Songs_about_dave
CSW
30-07-2004, 05:56
Who knows? He could raise the world standard IQ average and earn a Darwin Award by making a sacrifice of blood to fellow vampires...

Like I said, even a mighty Vampire like him needs a tetanus shot if you use rusty metal to cut yourself.
Only posers. Real vampires don't need no stinkin tetanus shots. (They got the vaccine like good boys)
Lazarus000
30-07-2004, 06:08
Here are three facts you guys need to know.
1.)Stupidity is just as prevailent in people over 18 as it is people under 18.
In fact it's even more prevail as far as I can tell. And you people don't even have an excuse.
2.)Real Goths will never in a million years admit they are goth even under pain of death. In fact that's what makes a goth: appreciation of the beauty of death and sadness.
3.)And finally the site is a sham. It's one the millions just like it. I have friends who spend hours playing around like this. And really the only fools are those who spends time and effort discussing them.
That is all. Thankyou.
Pepsiholics
30-07-2004, 06:09
Just sad. Does anyone else think it’s a cry for attention? The cutting, the want for death, the “experience” with suicide …. “ Dude, drag the knife over a fucking artery if you mean it!”

Seriously, I’ve seen cutters before. A girl tried to cut out the plate and screws used to fix her broken ankle. Very messy. This guy needs some Zoloft.
Kanabia
30-07-2004, 06:18
This guy needs some Zoloft.

No way. That shit will make him worse, I have a friend who takes it, and believe me....
Pepsiholics
30-07-2004, 06:26
No way. That shit will make him worse, I have a friend who takes it, and believe me....
Fine ...Wellbutrin or Elavil?
Ancients of Mu Mu
30-07-2004, 06:31
No way. That shit will make him worse, I have a friend who takes it, and believe me....

Really? I take it and I find it's helped quite a bit. :confused:

Still, I guess what works for one person won't necessarily help another.

PS: Zoloft™ can also help to alleviate the symptoms of social phobia and suppress murderous urges, antidepressant fans. :D
Goed
30-07-2004, 06:51
Sorry, but if he was a serious cutter, chances are he wouldn't talk about it.


I bet it's just a scam, really :p
Kanabia
30-07-2004, 06:54
Really? I take it and I find it's helped quite a bit. :confused:

Still, I guess what works for one person won't necessarily help another.

PS: Zoloft™ can also help to alleviate the symptoms of social phobia and suppress murderous urges, antidepressant fans. :D

Oh yes, it supressed social phobias alright to the point where he was running around in public with no pants or underwear.... :(

Fine ...Wellbutrin or Elavil?

No idea, they're not mine, remember? I just know it's Zoloft. Hell, it's probably an Australian brand.
CSW
30-07-2004, 06:57
Oh yes, it supressed social phobias alright to the point where he was running around in public with no pants or underwear.... :(



No idea. I just know it's Zoloft. Hell, it's probably an Australian brand.
Yeah, and I heard that some of the anti-depressants increased the risk of suicide for the first few days. Not good.
Kanabia
30-07-2004, 07:01
Yeah, and I heard that some of the anti-depressants increased the risk of suicide for the first few days. Not good.

Probably because they do things like that and get even more depressed after they realise what they've done.
Ancients of Mu Mu
30-07-2004, 07:06
Yeah, and I heard that some of the anti-depressants increased the risk of suicide for the first few days. Not good.

Oh, well I'd agree with that. For the first week or so, I couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, couldn't think straight and was incapable of doing much except stare at the walls. No fucking side-effects my arse. :mad:

I should point out that I was also really sick with sinusitis when all this was happening too, which probably didn't help much.
Evil Dictator Snocaps
30-07-2004, 07:14
So the guy has origionality, what's wrong with that? You want everyone to be the same? Tough luck. Society is a death trap that cages us all. It effects us all in different ways and this is how it effected him. Stop trying to make everything the way you want it, it's not going to happen.
Opal Isle
30-07-2004, 07:14
Eh...you don't have to be a dumbass to be unique.
Ancients of Mu Mu
30-07-2004, 07:21
So the guy has origionality, what's wrong with that? You want everyone to be the same? Tough luck. Society is a death trap that cages us all. It effects us all in different ways and this is how it effected him. Stop trying to make everything the way you want it, it's not going to happen.

He's not being an individual. He's just conforming to a different set of social norms. Have you seen the other blogs in the self-mutilation webring? They all sound like his. "I hate the world" "I'm a goth" "I'm a vampire" "I like to cut myself up" "I'm into suicide" "I like Metallica". Fuck off. :rolleyes:
Opal Isle
30-07-2004, 07:24
For more arguments on the shooting teenagers side: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=343857
Kanabia
30-07-2004, 07:26
So the guy has origionality, what's wrong with that? You want everyone to be the same? Tough luck. Society is a death trap that cages us all. It effects us all in different ways and this is how it effected him. Stop trying to make everything the way you want it, it's not going to happen.

That's not original. He's as much of a sheep as anyone by choosing to be a stereotypical goth. This story is like it's straight out of a book. He's just a try-hard.
Opal Isle
30-07-2004, 07:27
That's not original. He's as much of a sheep as anyone by choosing to be a stereotypical goth. This story is like it's straight out of a book. He's just a try-hard.
Book? I doubt he reads. Probably got it from a movie.
The Faeyas
30-07-2004, 07:33
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=the_darkness_becomes_me

A brief history:
Some "goth" loser makes a webjournal to whine on.
Bear in mind that this twit is 13.
This guy's xanga page gets spread around the internet.
Various webforums note the incredible stupidity; comments spamming occurs.
Insane amounts of hilarity ensue.

I swear to god, if this is what teen culture is creating, mass executions of these morons needs to happen fast. Otherwise, the world will collapse into a second Dark Age.

Interesting veiws, but haven't you noticed throughout history that the darkest times rought the greatest evolution of our race? Maybe a second dark age is just what our people need to get us out of the rut we have formed ourselves in.
Ancients of Mu Mu
30-07-2004, 07:36
Interesting veiws, but haven't you noticed throughout history that the darkest times rought the greatest evolution of our race?

No actually, I hadn't. :confused:
Zakastan
30-07-2004, 07:39
Perhaps you mean 'Golden Age' up there.
Dark Ages do nothing except reduce life expectancy, literacy rates and generally make life really shitty.

But alot of current social analysts believe that yes we are in fact in the beginning stages of another dark age. I blame reality tv
Yulia
30-07-2004, 07:44
Eh, I skipped over most of the pages but I'm assuming that the second, third, etc. to now are essentially the same as the first.

Uhm, yeah- Teenagers today should be shot. Along with several children and hundreds of thousands of adults. Including some of the folks in here.

I'm not going back to find the user who said this, since I'm sure they don't give a hoot... "He's just conforming to a different set of social norms. Have you seen the other blogs in the self-mutilation webring?"
Eh. The moment self-mutilation becomes the norm for teenagers, I'll go ask one of them to shoot me in the head (providing some of them actually have a gun.) For some reason I doubt they would, but it's worth a shot...

Self-mutilation used to be a common factor for people with depression/serious mental illness...Not retards. But look where the mainstream took it? "Scars are cool" "Scars are rad" "I cut myself every night, maybe twice! *Points to cat scratch*" Oh, how I miss people with brains...
Ancients of Mu Mu
30-07-2004, 07:45
Another Dark Age would be worth it, if it would rid the world of reality TV. :mp5:
Kage Shi-Rudo
30-07-2004, 07:49
Look, as a fifteen year old, and technically a teenager, I strive to cast off the aforementioned title as much as possible. I am not like most other teenagers. By this I mean that I choose to strive for attention (because we ALL do, no getting around it) through methods other than self-mutilation, suicide, breaking rules, promiscuous sex, smoking, doing drugs, and imitations thereof. I am a thinking, rational individual who in his spare time reads everything he can get his hands on, from religious history and philosophical inquiry to quantum physics (no lie). I for one find the idea that this guy classifies himself as a self-hating, self-mutilating, cutting outcast who noone understands as stupid and bullshit. More stupid than that, though, is the very idea that any group of people would do anything other than ignore it. It is, like most activities done by 'teenagers,' a cry for attention, and to give it to him will do nothing but fuel his dark, evil, black fire of, I'd imagine, despair and loneliness.

...'Teenage' isn't an age at all. It's a mindset typified by lack of judgment, stupid behavior, et cetera. I've not been a 'teenager' since I was about 12 or 13. I know people who've been 'teenagers' their whole life. Once that fact is recognized, I say go right ahead, and shoot all the 'teenagers.'
Ancients of Mu Mu
30-07-2004, 07:50
Eh, I skipped over most of the pages but I'm assuming that the second, third, etc. to now are essentially the same as the first.

Uhm, yeah- Teenagers today should be shot. Along with several children and hundreds of thousands of adults. Including some of the folks in here.

I'm not going back to find the user who said this, since I'm sure they don't give a hoot... "He's just conforming to a different set of social norms. Have you seen the other blogs in the self-mutilation webring?"
Eh. The moment self-mutilation becomes the norm for teenagers, I'll go ask one of them to shoot me in the head (providing some of them actually have a gun.) For some reason I doubt they would, but it's worth a shot...

Self-mutilation used to be a common factor for people with depression/serious mental illness...Not retards. But look where the mainstream took it? "Scars are cool" "Scars are rad" "I cut myself every night, maybe twice! *Points to cat scratch*" Oh, how I miss people with brains...

I do give a hoot, actually. What's your point?

I suffer from depression myself (albeit fairly mild as things go). It's pure Hell and I don't care to see it glamorised.
Kage Shi-Rudo
30-07-2004, 07:51
All nonconformists do the same thing.
Bolesta
30-07-2004, 07:54
There's a difference between being unique and being a damn fool. If you "specialize in suicide" and live to tell the tale, you're obviously a damn moron. That's like being a quadrupalegic body builder. It just doesn't happen.

Hey, this kid doesn't need Zoloft, he needs a swift kick in the ass. And so do his parents. I'm surprised they haven't become suicide masters like their son yet.

And if any of you cats think people like this should be executed by the masses in a timely fashion, send me $5 so I can buy a nice shotgun. No one will want to be goth with "The Enforcer" in my hands. They'd rather be nice little children: the little boys in their sailor outfits and the little girls with their bonnets and sunday dresses.

But who wants that when we can have nifty lil' "suicide specialists" like this awesome pre-pubescent guy?

Two thumbs up to him for making the world a better place. I sure know I feel like a better person by comparison. :mp5:
Opal Isle
30-07-2004, 07:55
All nonconformists do the same thing.
They...conform to non-conformism.
The Blue Viper II
30-07-2004, 07:56
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Kage Shi-Rudo
30-07-2004, 07:57
...Right. Thanks, Viper.
Ancients of Mu Mu
30-07-2004, 07:57
Also, I agree with what Viper said.
Yulia
30-07-2004, 07:59
I do give a hoot, actually. What's your point?

I suffer from depression myself (albeit fairly mild as things go). It's pure Hell and I don't care to see it glamorised.
My point is...Eh, hold on while I think it up again...Ah! I don't remember. My point was that people like this fellow, who we've made a 5 page example of, shouldn't be flaunting that they cut/are suicidal/are depressed/hate the world. Certain things are strictly don't ask, don't tell - if you tell without being asked then you're striving to be noticed, pitied, etc.

I've actually gone through that bit hundreds of times on DeviantART, as several folks slit their wrist, cut their hand or slice open their leg and expect praise for taking a goddamn snap-shot of it. On the other hand I have similar images, but not once have I gotten someone going "Dear God you need help!" because there's an artistic point of view, it's not the attention-whoring most of them do. I think I've lost my point again...o_O
Kage Shi-Rudo
30-07-2004, 08:01
And if any of you cats think people like this should be executed by the masses in a timely fashion, send me $5 so I can buy a nice shotgun. No one will want to be goth with "The Enforcer" in my hands.

Where can I send my five bucks to?
Undume
30-07-2004, 08:05
Perhaps you mean 'Golden Age' up there.
Dark Ages do nothing except reduce life expectancy, literacy rates and generally make life really shitty.

But alot of current social analysts believe that yes we are in fact in the beginning stages of another dark age. I blame reality tv


Oh.. well the Rennaissance did follow the Medieval days.. there sure wasn't a shitload of development with art, science, and mathematics during that time period.. :rolleyes:


*just making a point*
:rolleyes:
Arachnoids
30-07-2004, 08:07
The way I see it, this dude simply needs to get a real life. I read the first few entries in his blog, and all it tells me is that:

1) He has very little intellegience for a kid of his age

2) He can't entertain himself, he always wants someone else to do it.

3) He has no respect for his parents.

At 13, thats really sad. In 1 of his entries he whines about not being able to get a lip ring becuase his parents won't allow it. He says something to the effect of "And don't say that they give me everything becuase they aren't giving me this" That is just sad. He'll likely end up a 25 year old loser who lives in his car smoking weed with the minimum wage paycheck he earns from the local McDonalds.
Ancients of Mu Mu
30-07-2004, 08:14
My point is...Eh, hold on while I think it up again...Ah! I don't remember. My point was that people like this fellow, who we've made a 5 page example of, shouldn't be flaunting that they cut/are suicidal/are depressed/hate the world. Certain things are strictly don't ask, don't tell - if you tell without being asked then you're striving to be noticed, pitied, etc.

I've actually gone through that bit hundreds of times on DeviantART, as several folks slit their wrist, cut their hand or slice open their leg and expect praise for taking a goddamn snap-shot of it. On the other hand I have similar images, but not once have I gotten someone going "Dear God you need help!" because there's an artistic point of view, it's not the attention-whoring most of them do. I think I've lost my point again...o_O

While I see your point, I think you may have slightly misunderstood my post. What I meant was that a lot of people who purport to be non-conformists still seem to feel the need to pidgeon-hole themselves as goths, punks, geeks etc. They may be outside the mainstream, but they still conform to the norms of their subculture, for example wearing black, listening to Marilyn Manson and having pissing contests about how depressed they are. I'm not saying that nobody who belongs to a subculture is an individual. I was merely attempting to rebutt Snocaps' assertion that this chappie is somehow expressing his individuality.
Yulia
30-07-2004, 08:17
While I see your point, I think you may have slightly misunderstood my post...I was merely attempting to rebutt Snocaps' assertion that this chappie is somehow expressing his individuality.
Oh, no. I caught that. And the bit about non-conformists. I thought I tossed that in somewhere, or perhaps that was just my thoughts... It's late enough that I'm not certain which is which.
Ancients of Mu Mu
30-07-2004, 08:20
Oh, no. I caught that. And the bit about non-conformists. I thought I tossed that in somewhere, or perhaps that was just my thoughts... It's late enough that I'm not certain which is which.

Yes. Sometimes the voices make me do things I don't want to too. :(
Yulia
30-07-2004, 08:25
Yes. Sometimes the voices make me do things I don't want to too. :(
:D I'm just too exhausted to get up and go to my room...Too much effort that I haven't got right now.
Undume
30-07-2004, 08:26
I see no reason to really complain about this. I personally find the "goth" lifestyle hilarious. They mope around all the time and bitch and moan about how the world is so unfair and how they're going to kill them selves all the time. The only reason they do this is because they just want pity. I say instead of killing them, which is what they say they want, we should simply ignore them. They'll give up soon enough if people dont take notice of their "suffering and agony."


If there was anything to pity about that kid it, would be his frickin' grammar and spelling. Nothing else.


Most "goths" are fakes, copycats of true goths (which I am not, so don't get on my case about it :D )
I have met very few true goths. Those that are, have reason to be. They have terrible home lives, abusive families (or none at all), and have given up every shred of faith in God they had (please don't turn this into another Athiests v. Christians debate). For this reason, it makes me incredibly angry to hear people collectively label goths as losers, freaks, fakes, and etc.. :headbang:
What most people seem to forget in their endless slew of insults is that these people are this way for a reason. They are trying to fit in, any way they can. The last thing they need is people like you calling them twits, losers, or saying they need to be executed.
I do agree that this guy seems like a wannabe, but that's no reason to make fun of the way he lives his life.

From his xanga site...
...everyone hates goth people and i think that isnt suprising because goths tend to live for hate...
By saying stuff about him, you're just feeding fuel to the fire. :rolleyes:

Also, self-harm IS NOT A FUCKING HOBBY, YOU TOOL!
Seriously, I’ve seen cutters before... This guy needs some Zoloft.
Self-mutilation used to be a common factor for people with depression/serious mental illness...Not retards. But look where the mainstream took it? "Scars are cool" "Scars are rad" "I cut myself every night, maybe twice! *Points to cat scratch*" Oh, how I miss people with brains...
No, it's not a hobby, it's not fun. It is an incredibly efficient [and addictive] coping mechanism. As a former self-harmer, I feel like I should say something about this, and hope it doesn't start a flame war.. Cutting releases endorphins in the body (like drugs or sex do) that mask the pain and make you feel good. Like taking 3 vicoden at the same time.. People can get addicted to those endorphins. I'm not condoning the act of cutting, in fact, I would encourage anyone to quit. I know what it's like, I've been there. It was Hell, it was a true addiction. Even if he is a fake (which I believe he is :rolleyes: ), please don't mock self-harmers.

By this I mean that I choose to strive for attention ... through methods other than self-mutilation, suicide, breaking rules, promiscuous sex, smoking, doing drugs, and imitations thereof.
*ahem* ... I appreciate the fact that a thinking, rational individual like yourself chooses to link self-harmers with "suicide, breaking rules, promiscuous sex, smoking, doing drugs, and imitations thereof."
I understand that many self-harmers do these things, but I know just as many who don't. The fact is, when I used to cut myself, I didn't want to kill myself, I just wanted to die (that may be difficult to understand..).
Most of the self-harmers I have come into contact with are quiet, unassuming people, most of which you wouldn't believe were cutters.
They are generally not the rulebreakers (those are the poser goths and punks who think people will like them if they cut themselves because it makes them part of the minority).
I don't break rules, I've never smoked, done drugs, or had sex. Most of my friends haven't either.

I really only replied to voice my opinion.. I probably won't reply to anyone quoting me or flames (unless it really interests or angers me).
I'm sleepy. :(

(most of my information came from personal exp, but some was provided by this site. (http://www.ruinyourlife.com))
Yulia
30-07-2004, 08:33
No, it's not a hobby, it's not fun. It is an incredibly efficient [and addictive] coping mechanism. As a former self-harmer, I feel like I should say something about this, and hope it doesn't start a flame war.. Cutting releases endorphins in the body (like drugs or sex do) that mask the pain and make you feel good. Like taking 3 vicoden at the same time.. People can get addicted to those endorphins. I'm not condoning the act of cutting, in fact, I would encourage anyone to quit. I know what it's like, I've been there. It was Hell, it was a true addiction. Even if he is a fake (which I believe he is :rolleyes: ), please don't mock self-harmers.
I still mock the folks I know do it for attention. It's my place. I am/was a cutter (which is mostly why I even bothered responding...People have the wrong idea about it...) and yeah, I know it gives you a "high" if you will. A certain something extremely hard to match other ways of "coping", but it's possible. Lucky me I stopped (or was stopped, I suppose) before it became a real problem for me. I'm "an avid runner" now, and three-five miles a day works wonders, even if the feeling doesn't last and your body has Hell to pay for it later, it must be more healthy. I've lost my point again... >>;
Ancients of Mu Mu
30-07-2004, 08:48
... please don't mock self-harmers.

I am not mocking self-harmers. And while I didn't know the technical side of it, I know that hurting yourself can make you feel better because I've done it myself. Luckily, like Yulia, I stopped before it became a problem. A lot of days I still feel like doing it but I control myself because I don't want to go down that road again. I remember how utterly worthless I felt at the time and it narks me that these kids seem to think that it's a cool thing to do.

I hope none of these kids really suffer from depression, because I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Yulia
30-07-2004, 09:06
While I didn't know the technical side of it, I know that hurting yourself can make you feel better because I've done it myself. Luckily, like Yulia, I stopped before it became a problem. A lot of days I still feel like doing it but I control myself because I don't want to go down that road again.
Not a lot to it. Just that it releases those endorphins that your body normally does when you fall or get a papercut, something to help numb it. It's hard to not want to rely on old habbits... God, why am I even here? *looks down the hallway* Right.
Dragons Bay
30-07-2004, 09:08
ho. ho. ho.

funniest ever thread title.

lessee...most teenagers today have adult role models...hm...
Yulia
30-07-2004, 09:11
ho. ho. ho.

funniest ever thread title.

lessee...most teenagers today have adult role models...hm...
O_o I love people who walk in blind...
Dragons Bay
30-07-2004, 09:13
O_o I love people who walk in blind...

yes, i admit i didn't read the thread except for the first post - that's what i'm replying to. first impressions are very important...
Yulia
30-07-2004, 09:18
yes, i admit i didn't read the thread except for the first post - that's what i'm replying to. first impressions are very important...
Not missing anything important, I guess!
Dragons Bay
30-07-2004, 09:24
Not missing anything important, I guess!

no...every post adds to your post count

*puts another number into the 5000 range*
The Pyrenees
30-07-2004, 10:28
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=the_darkness_becomes_me

A brief history:
Some "goth" loser makes a webjournal to whine on.
Bear in mind that this twit is 13.
This guy's xanga page gets spread around the internet.
Various webforums note the incredible stupidity; comments spamming occurs.
Insane amounts of hilarity ensue.

I swear to god, if this is what teen culture is creating, mass executions of these morons needs to happen fast. Otherwise, the world will collapse into a second Dark Age.

Isn't it just that stage in his life? He is only 13, so hardly representatve of teen culture, and I think the likelyhood is people like him grow up to have great taste in music and add alot to teen culture. Give him time, he will grow, and hopefully buy a few more records...
The Wallpaper People
30-07-2004, 10:39
Why does this thread keep opening up at page six? :confused:

And are we going to kill the annoying goth-guy or what?
The Holy Word
30-07-2004, 11:05
It's blatantly not real. To give just one example he keeps using White Wolf as vampire mythology. (Caine, Kindred etc).
Von Witzleben
30-07-2004, 11:13
It's blatantly not real. To give just one example he keeps using White Wolf as vampire mythology. (Caine, Kindred etc).
Which clan do you think he prefers? Beeing as depressed as he is I bet Clan Nosferatu. If I looked like a member of that clan I would be depressed to.
Saipea
30-07-2004, 11:23
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=the_darkness_becomes_me

A brief history:
Some "goth" loser makes a webjournal to whine on.
Bear in mind that this twit is 13.
This guy's xanga page gets spread around the internet.
Various webforums note the incredible stupidity; comments spamming occurs.
Insane amounts of hilarity ensue.

I swear to god, if this is what teen culture is creating, mass executions of these morons needs to happen fast. Otherwise, the world will collapse into a second Dark Age.

Christians, goths... they're both equally wacko.
Lexwolf
30-07-2004, 12:45
Whatever, with my years of Pychological experience, I can tell you that guy definetely isn't thirteen. There are too many posts about teenage angst only an adult could have posted that way. All of the posts about the lawn and his dad are made to sound pathetic, for sure.


(If somebody was going too shoot him, it sounds to me like he'd ask to shoot himself, then back down and say the only way he could be killed was with a stake. Or possibly Buffy. )
Salishe
30-07-2004, 13:02
The gothic subculture (like many cultures) has two distinct groups: the "true-blues" and the "wannabes". This guy is a definite wannabe.

I have a lot of friends who are goths that are not the pathetic tosser that this guy is. Here's an identification tip - if they are obsessed with suicide and/or Marilyn Manson, they are wannabes (most "real" gothic music is bands that 99% of the population has never heard of).

Unfortunately, post-Columbine, all "goths" get tarred with the same brush...just like how metalheads were demonised after James Vance topped himself listening to Judas Priest.

I've never gotten the whole "goth" scene..don't understand it, don't get the mentality...seems most of them are from my limited perspective...(1)Anti-Authoritarian, (2)Loners, (3) Prone to lack of respect for laws the "do as I please" mentality, (4)insistence that no one else "gets" them, even though post-adolescent insecurities are not new to the goth scene....

If I have this wrong..and bear in mind, this is merely an opinion based on personal observation. I'm pretty sure there is a goth here on this forum who can correct me.
Niobi
30-07-2004, 13:25
He isn't a goth!!! There is no such thing as a goth. The people once known as the Goths are all dead. This new subculture was started by a few underground aret grads who like the Gothic style. They never called themselves Goths nor did they desire pity or attention. These are the true "Goths" and they are nearly gone. However for those who would like to track a real one down here are some tips.

1.)They will never admit they're a Goth. Never, ever, ever, ever even if God decided to show himself by coming down, pointing a finger at them and declaring them a Goth. They would still deny it.

2.)They might dress in black and wear silver or pewter jewelry, but that won't be the only things they wear. However most of it will be throw backs to the medievil clothing styles.

3.)They don't whine, they write poetry and if you get it you'll understand. If you don't then you'll just laugh it off and go away.

4.)If they ever made a website it wouldn't have anything on it like this guy, because their websites feature underground music, jokes, pictures, and lots of sarcasam. M. Manson is NOT underground although he should have been murdered and stuffed in a coffin a long time ago.

5.)That brings us to the next clue. Real Goths hate Marilyn Manson. Just like real Atheist hate Marilyn Manson. That doofus has given us all a bad name and will suffer as soon as I come up with a working plan.

6.)Real Goths are not idiots and they have no problem exihibiting that fact.

and finally

7.)A true Goth will defy any defination because that's what they do.

I know this because I'm one of those people who can wonder into any group hang around for a while and walk off without anyone caring. Tis great really.
Besides my interest can of lead me into that circle alot.
Bottle
30-07-2004, 13:38
what i find really funny is that Marilyn Manson isn't a goth. he freely admits that the way he dresses and acts is all just a performance, a costume he uses to appeal to a given market. i don't especially like his music but i think he is a brilliant guy; he's very intelligent, and has a sense of humor that none of his fans seem to share. he doesn't take any of his morbid fronting seriously, and so many "real Goths" can't understand how he actually is making them all look like chumps by showing how irrelevant their dearly-held depression is.

i'm a fan of anything that makes fun of the attention-seeking teen angst crowd, especially the suicide Goths who make depression and suicide into nothing more than status symbols.
The Wallpaper People
30-07-2004, 13:39
So are we killing people or not?

Shouldn't we at least arrange some sort of tag-and-release programme for these 'goths' Niobi talks of so we can study them in their natural habitat before they die out?
Sangue e Rosas
30-07-2004, 13:59
Yay for the kinderbats.

Now, can we add 14-year-old camwhores to the list of kids who need to be shot? The ones who create rating communities on LJ, then whore out their group in other communites, whine about how no one is joining them, and then let almost no one in because they're just not (insert inane community name here) material. Yeah, those ones. They're more annoying.
Hakartopia
30-07-2004, 14:08
i'm a fan of anything that makes fun of the attention-seeking teen angst crowd, especially the suicide Goths who make depression and suicide into nothing more than status symbols.

You might like this then: http://www.sjgames.com/chezgoth/
Ninamori and Mamimi
30-07-2004, 14:15
Oh. That sounds bad, glad we don't have those around here. (Though we do have many asians. This a new thing?)

he he ! i'm one of 'em! :P
Sliders
30-07-2004, 14:21
Whatever, with my years of Pychological experience, I can tell you that guy definetely isn't thirteen. There are too many posts about teenage angst only an adult could have posted that way. All of the posts about the lawn and his dad are made to sound pathetic, for sure.
The part about good charlotte too...there's no way a kid like that would even pretend to like good charlotte

I mean, they play them on TRL!!
Ninamori and Mamimi
30-07-2004, 14:46
what's annoying is all the stereotypes teenagers are in (i would know...)
i'd go on but.....*yawns*...sleeple
Aberwild
30-07-2004, 14:58
Actually, a lot of wannabe-goths do legitmately listen to good charlotte, i know some. Most aren't over 13, which fits this scenario. i tried to convert them form The Gospel of Shitty Music to no avail....so very sad. :headbang: Most aren't over 13, which fits this scenario.
Vollmeria
30-07-2004, 15:00
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=the_darkness_becomes_me

A brief history:
Some "goth" loser makes a webjournal to whine on.
Bear in mind that this twit is 13.
This guy's xanga page gets spread around the internet.
Various webforums note the incredible stupidity; comments spamming occurs.
Insane amounts of hilarity ensue.

I swear to god, if this is what teen culture is creating, mass executions of these morons needs to happen fast. Otherwise, the world will collapse into a second Dark Age.

This kid deserves a good spanking, his parents keep him with them for 13 years, they feed him, cloth him, love him and he hates them because they dont want him to get a lip peircing. I used to have respect for what my parents did for me, but that respect no longer exists i guess.
The Holy Word
30-07-2004, 15:07
This kid deserves a good spanking, his parents keep him with them for 13 years, they feed him, cloth him, love him and he hates them because they dont want him to get a lip peircing. I used to have respect for what my parents did for me, but that respect no longer exists i guess.IT'S A JOKE. THIS JOURNAL IS NOT REAL. I thought it was quite well done (though it's not as funny as Amenlover).
Ekardia
30-07-2004, 15:08
Not all teens are like that they are a minoriity the rest of us think they're stupid
Vollmeria
30-07-2004, 15:08
IT'S A JOKE. THIS JOURNAL IS NOT REAL. I thought it was quite well done (though it's not as funny as Amenlover).

Granted i didnt read everything, but i am stuff like this happens in the world. And now you have my opinion about it.
Mount Isist
30-07-2004, 15:26
What is so wrong about being a goth, true goths are not like this little punk, most are like the tree hugging hippies of late, mostly poets and artists that have darker interests. I am a writer, my subjects are vampires, werewolves, immortals, anything. I don't glorify death or suicide even if it is in my story. To me it is better to live a tortured life than die. If you live with the torture it can fuel you. Not all goths dress in all black, have black hair, wear white facepaint and black lipstick. I look mostly normal with dark blonde hair, very little makeup except light brown lipstick so my liips don't chap and I wear all kinds of colorful clothes. Don't lump all goths in the same boat. To most kids, goth is just a "thing" to be into... a group. You have your Preppies, Jocks, Nerds, Goths, and ..... the rest. most people who are really goth just fit in the last catagory, the rest. We don't stand out, we whine in our journals and diaries about things and really don't care if anyone notices or not. We put on a "normal" face to face the world while underneath we are just who we always are, slightly abnormal.

btw... vampirism still exists but you have to find some one that is willing to let you drink their blood. I don't drink other's blood but I have been a host a few times. You just use a sterile blade and nick the skin so a little blood flows. ((I am a blood donor to red cross so I know my blood is clean))
The Holy Word
30-07-2004, 16:21
If you live with the torture it can fuel you. You realise this is why people take the piss? Most goths are nice white kids from comfortable middle class backgrounds. All things considered that's not a difficult life.We put on a "normal" face to face the world while underneath we are just who we always are, slightly abnormal.Yes, we are all individuals.

btw... vampirism still exists but you have to find some one that is willing to let you drink their blood. I don't drink other's blood but I have been a host a few times. You just use a sterile blade and nick the skin so a little blood flows. ((I am a blood donor to red cross so I know my blood is clean))No they don't. Poseurs may drink each other's bloods but that does not make them immortal creatures of the night.

Goths are brilliant. They put on white face makeup and cloaks and then walk round small British towns going "what? what's everyone looking at". Then they go to the local HMV and put all the Sisters of Mercy CDs at the front of the 'S' section. :D
Hakartopia
30-07-2004, 19:17
What is so wrong about being a goth

They're different. Different things are scary, and should be made fun of and threatened with death so that we may feel slightly better about ourselves.
[/sarcasm]
Balsowood
30-07-2004, 19:49
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=the_darkness_becomes_me

A brief history:
Some "goth" loser makes a webjournal to whine on.
Bear in mind that this twit is 13.
This guy's xanga page gets spread around the internet.
Various webforums note the incredible stupidity; comments spamming occurs.
Insane amounts of hilarity ensue.

I swear to god, if this is what teen culture is creating, mass executions of these morons needs to happen fast. Otherwise, the world will collapse into a second Dark Age.

MY handy lil dictionary!
Goth adj a member of a Germanic people that early in the Christian era overran the Roman Empire
Gothic adj of or remaining to a style of architecture from the middle 12th to the early 16th century.
As you can see, unless you're living in the 12th-16th century there is no way you can be a true Goth. Plus, if that loser was only 13 you "older more mature" people shouldn't care what he says. I myself find it insulting though that you called this topic 'Proof that teenagers today should be shot.' Sterotypically most "goths" now days are moody and whine alot. I'm talking from personal experiance (one of my friends is a "goth"). And sterotypically that slit their wrists and wear all black. That's why I hate sterotypes-most of it is untrue and just a bunch of jumbled words for kids to hide behind. *sigh* BTW, like you said this is a "goth" loser. Not all teenagers label themselves as "goth" so you can't say if this is what teen culture is creating, mass executions of these morons needs to happen fast because we're not all labeling ourselves as "goth".
Thank you for actually reading my mumbo jumbo.
Balsowood
30-07-2004, 19:59
I get tired of the people my age that act depressed to get attention.
Heh heh isn't that funny, but some people our age are really depressed.
Bolesta
31-07-2004, 02:29
[QUOTE=Undume]
I have met very few true goths. Those that are, have reason to be. They have terrible home lives, abusive families (or none at all), and have given up every shred of faith in God they had (please don't turn this into another Athiests v. Christians debate).


Most people I know that go through shit like this just end up as crust punks, and they're by far at least a bajillion times better than any "goth" I've ever met. I mean, they don't go around cutting themselves, they just smoke dope and drink 40s. Personally i think that's a whole lot better than mastering suicide and then telling your friends about it monday during your spanish class. If dumpster diving for food because you have no home is disgusting, reality check: the disgusting thing is that we, as a society, actually accept people like this jackass kid. It makes me sick that some little turd can go around talking about how suicide is cool. I've had friends that shot themselves in the damn temple. Why? Because they had problems no one could help them with. This kid is an embarrassment to the rest of humanity. if the kid really had issues, he wouldn't be bragging about cutting himself. Or waking up every morning to check his schedule..."7:15-put on face paint to make me look like a clown, minus big shoes and red nose (p.s.-rainbow wig under bed) 8:30-suck little sister's blood in name of satan and the dark lords 9:00-cut self while listening to New Found Glory"


someone needs to put people like this out of my misery. If no one else will do it, I nominate myself.
Mount Isist
31-07-2004, 06:19
Poseurs may drink each other's bloods but that does not make them immortal creatures of the night.


I never said those that drink the blood are trying to be "creatures of the night" The drinking of blood is almost a sexual thing, intimate. It is a little of your life's fluid that another is drinking and it is about feeling you have that tiny bit of power over them. Vampirism in it's true form, stripped of it's mythology is about sex and power over some one else.

I don't run around with white face paint, messing with cd's racks, hang out with people.... actually, I can barely stand people who aren't my family or my lovers.
Hardscrabble
31-07-2004, 06:25
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=the_darkness_becomes_me

A brief history:
Some "goth" loser makes a webjournal to whine on.
Bear in mind that this twit is 13.
This guy's xanga page gets spread around the internet.
Various webforums note the incredible stupidity; comments spamming occurs.
Insane amounts of hilarity ensue.

I swear to god, if this is what teen culture is creating, mass executions of these morons needs to happen fast. Otherwise, the world will collapse into a second Dark Age.

Sheer brilliance. I'm going to have this etched in granite.
Hakartopia
31-07-2004, 06:32
Sheer brilliance. I'm going to have this etched in granite.

Yeah! We as a group of dozens, maybe hundreds of people, made fun of a depressed 13-year old over the internet! Go us! *fap fap fap*


*sigh*
Ancients of Mu Mu
31-07-2004, 06:36
Poseurs may drink each other's bloods but that does not make them immortal creatures of the night.

I never said those that drink the blood are trying to be "creatures of the night" The drinking of blood is almost a sexual thing, intimate. It is a little of your life's fluid that another is drinking and it is about feeling you have that tiny bit of power over them. Vampirism in it's true form, stripped of it's mythology is about sex and power over some one else.

I don't run around with white face paint, messing with cd's racks, hang out with people.... actually, I can barely stand people who aren't my family or my lovers.

Can I interest either of you in my "Feasting upon human flesh: Is it really Moral?" thread?
Kernlandia
31-07-2004, 06:40
i hate these nitwits who think it's so awesome to be depressed, whiny, cutters. because seriously, no one cares if you're depressed, they hate you if you're whiny, and it's not awesome to be a cutter. not awesome at all.

i'm a teen but i'm inclined to agree that most of 'em these day are certifiable retards.
Hardscrabble
31-07-2004, 06:57
i hate these nitwits who think it's so awesome to be depressed, whiny, cutters. because seriously, no one cares if you're depressed, they hate you if you're whiny, and it's not awesome to be a cutter. not awesome at all.

i'm a teen but i'm inclined to agree that most of 'em these day are certifiable retards.

People like you make life hell for those who refuse to conform. You spit on people who have problems because you yourself can't face your own fears and shortcomings. I hope you develop a bit of compassion before you reach voting age, and before you have a family.
Pearlstwelve
31-07-2004, 07:10
This makes me sad. I know that I'm only 16, and I really haven't seen alot of crap or depresssion, but this makes me sick. I posted a comment, and now that i see that this kid is doing it for attention, it makes me sick. This 13 year old can't say that he's depressed. Its sick to see someone talk about suicide that way, as if it's easy. Every post he says that he's depressed and going to kill himself. He gives "goths" a bad name. He acts as if only goths can be depressed and can kill themselves. My cousin wasn't a goth, and he still managed to choke down a bottle of asprin and topped it off with vodka.


I also hate how he defines people into 3 catagories:
Preps
Kid's that he's training to be goths
Goths.

Oh, and his "faggit" parents.

It's sad to see kid who don't even know what pain truely is act this way.
Anbar
31-07-2004, 08:40
Yeah! We as a group of dozens, maybe hundreds of people, made fun of a depressed 13-year old over the internet! Go us! *fap fap fap*


*sigh*

Yeah, pretty sick. I mean, this is beyond the "My life is so black..." goth poetry that can be so bad that it invites ridicule (though, ridiculing someone's artistic expression can also be quite harsh). This kid's got some major problems if what he says is true. It may well not be. If it is, and this kid is a damaged as he claims, then he definitely needs...let me see if I can get this appropriately emphasized for the situation...

HELP!

Kids are, and always have been, cruel; but the guys who did this are what make me support the action of the title of this thread, not the kid himself. Depression's a legitimate mental illness, cutting a severe symptom, and this poor bastard is only 13 years into it - the perfect age to make a stupid decision. You know, the kind of decision you make when hundreds of idiots spam the comments section of your webjournal with remarks which remind you of just why you hate people and, by association, life.

Christ, people, have some decency.
Insane Troll
31-07-2004, 08:44
250 notes of ridicule is just excessive.

Don't these people have anything better to do with their time? He's 13-years-old, cut him a little slack, christ.
Ashtria
31-07-2004, 08:47
I swear to god, if this is what teen culture is creating, mass executions of these morons needs to happen fast. Otherwise, the world will collapse into a second Dark Age.

I couldn't agree more!
Anbar
31-07-2004, 08:48
Can I interest either of you in my "Feasting upon human flesh: Is it really Moral?" thread?

Hmm, intriguing, I'll have to check that out.
Badger poking
31-07-2004, 08:49
Shooting them is a poor idea....Nuke 'em instead! then only the cockroaches in their rooms will survive...muhahahahahahahaha...
Ancients of Mu Mu
31-07-2004, 08:51
Christ, people, have some decency.

I have no decency left thanks to years of being ridiculed by my peers. If I can live with it, so can he. :gundge:
Feifer
31-07-2004, 09:12
how do you get through to a kid like that...poor guy
Anbar
31-07-2004, 09:25
I have no decency left thanks to years of being ridiculed by my peers. If I can live with it, so can he. :gundge:

I dealt with the same thing - it made me make me what I am today, but let's not get into the trials of adolescence. As my signature implies, I dislike weakness and am all for tempering people, but this kid seems to have some legitimate problems. That figures into it, too. If he's just some melodramatic idiot, let him harden up and get over it; but between the extremity of his writing and the extremity of the response, there's more to it than simple thickening of the skin. If you temper something too fast, it can shatter.
Anbar
31-07-2004, 09:30
how do you get through to a kid like that...poor guy

His parents have said he could talk to them about his problems...man, are tehy in over their heads. I know where I'd start with a kid like this, but I'd need a couch and a notepad.

That is, assuming, he's not just playing it up. I'm half inclined to believe he is, but the other half wouldn't want to risk the first half being wrong. Ah, the internet...such a poor gauge of this sort of thing.
Big Jim P
31-07-2004, 10:35
This guy needs help. Perhaps seeing a sunrise?

Jim

Typing lessons wouldn't hurt either.
Yulia
31-07-2004, 10:35
This makes me sad. I know that I'm only 16, and I really haven't seen alot of crap or depresssion, but this makes me sick. I posted a comment, and now that i see that this kid is doing it for attention, it makes me sick. This 13 year old can't say that he's depressed. Its sick to see someone talk about suicide that way, as if it's easy. Every post he says that he's depressed and going to kill himself. He gives "goths" a bad name.
Well depression doesn't select an age to start whoring at you, it just sinks in one day. He could very well be a depressed 13 year old, especially in todays world - but his outlook is very...Uhm... I'll just say that there must be someone just like him he idolizes and has exactly the same stupid comments on life, "faggit" parents, and other fellow minions. I know people like the boy, but they don't take it to extremes, and it isn't constant whoring and whining and moaning like this fellow does. Too much testosterone, I think.

By the way "Goths" are doing a lovely job at giving themselves bad names. Not all of them, but a few.

Anyhow, agreed that if he was sincere, he wouldn't say every night he was going to kill himself. It takes a lot of contemplation, a cool head and a strong purpose. "None of which are compatible with a suicidal state of mind."
Kokusbitus
31-07-2004, 13:10
Shouldn't it be changed to, SHOOT ALL THOSE INFLUENCED BY COMMERCIAL NIHILISM?
How about that? I would be happy then. If those commercialised nihilist would actually kill themsleves we wouldn't be in this mess
Moose In A Tin
31-07-2004, 13:55
this guy is really funny i'm sorry, but his web diary thing really amused me, especially the t-shirt he bought saying "you hate me coz i'm different but i hate you coz ur all the same" if you ask me its no wonder hes so depressed the t-shirt says it all he bought into just another steriotype which he aparantly hates (i'm surprised he doesn't list schitzophrenia as a hobby or expertise). however i do think we all need to look back at the people we were when we were 13 - i personnally became a Kurt Cobain revivalist - we all go these fases - crazes if you will - and then get over them a year later. some people take these things to more extreem levels like our new friend here but give him a few years, if he doesnt finally succeed in killing himself (i doubt he will coz he would have done it by now), he'll be laughing at himself just like we're laughing at him now :D
Ancients of Mu Mu
31-07-2004, 14:35
Shouldn't it be changed to, SHOOT ALL THOSE INFLUENCED BY COMMERCIAL NIHILISM?

We can do that too. :mp5:
The Holy Word
31-07-2004, 14:39
I never said those that drink the blood are trying to be "creatures of the night" The drinking of blood is almost a sexual thing, intimate. It is a little of your life's fluid that another is drinking and it is about feeling you have that tiny bit of power over them. Vampirism in it's true form, stripped of it's mythology is about sex and power over some one else. It's also a damn good way of catching Hepatitas B. Not particuarly clever.

I don't run around with white face paint, messing with cd's racks, hang out with people.... actually, I can barely stand people who aren't my family or my lovers.Oh for God's sake, it was blatantly a joke. I probably have more Goth in my music collection then you. And if I really disliked Goths I wouldn't DJ the local Goth night now, would I? I just have a limited tolerance for anyone who takes themselves too seriously, whatever thesubculture. Read http://www.waningmoon.com/gothica/articles/6660047.shtml and chill out.

Everyone else, my four main reasons I reckon this journal is a hoax:

1. His constant use of "White Wolf" as vampire mythology.

2. No Goth would admit listening to Good Charlotte.

3. The fact that, while the spelling's appalling the sentence construction is perfect.

4. The comment about mowing the lawn- "I cut nothing but myself" is far too stereotypical to not be conscious.
Mount Isist
31-07-2004, 18:23
It's also a damn good way of catching Hepatitas B. Not particuarly clever.

That is why I go get my blood checked every 3 months. So far a very clean bill of health. There are very few people I let taste my blood, and even fewer that I taste from myself. We are constantly monoring each other, getting our blood check and everything. When we blood let, it is just barely more than a scratch from a sterile blade. After it is over, the wound is thouroughly cleaned with disinfectant and bandaged. We go about this intellegently, seeing that one of us is a doctor.