NationStates Jolt Archive


Shades of Deja Vu

Whittier-
29-07-2004, 08:37
Bush in 2000 at the National convention"Help is on the way"

Democrats at 2004 national convention: "Help is on the way."
Incertonia
29-07-2004, 08:48
Funny--I didn't remember that from the 2000 convention, so I googled it, and the phrase did appear in Dick Cheney's speech--once. I guess it's a legit comparison. I mean, it's not the call and response that Edwards got going, but it was there.

Of course, Cheney's big rhetorical line was "It is time for them to go."

By the way, I'm getting all of this from here. (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/conventions/republican/transcripts/cheney.html) If there's another place where that line is repeated from the 2000 convention, I'd like to see it. I find this kind of stuff fascinating.
Whittier-
29-07-2004, 08:52
Funny--I didn't remember that from the 2000 convention, so I googled it, and the phrase did appear in Dick Cheney's speech--once. I guess it's a legit comparison. I mean, it's not the call and response that Edwards got going, but it was there.

Of course, Cheney's big rhetorical line was "It is time for them to go."

By the way, I'm getting all of this from here. (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/conventions/republican/transcripts/cheney.html) If there's another place where that line is repeated from the 2000 convention, I'd like to see it. I find this kind of stuff fascinating.
I'm sorry. I was talking about the California convention.
Every time Bush said something, he always said "Help is on the way."
Whittier-
29-07-2004, 08:54
I didn't even know Cheney had said it.
Incertonia
29-07-2004, 08:54
Ah. Still it's interesting to see how each side uses similar rhetoric to try to appeal to voters.

I've been pleasantly surprised at how many biblical references the Democrats have been making, and the number of ministers who have spoken at the convention. Just goes to show that the right-wing doesn't have a monopoly on Jesus.
Whittier-
29-07-2004, 08:59
Ah. Still it's interesting to see how each side uses similar rhetoric to try to appeal to voters.

I've been pleasantly surprised at how many biblical references the Democrats have been making, and the number of ministers who have spoken at the convention. Just goes to show that the right-wing doesn't have a monopoly on Jesus.
Weren't they the ones who were attacking Bush for qouting the bible?
Incertonia
29-07-2004, 09:15
Never--they've attacked Bush for allowing his religion to dictate policy, but never his quoting of scripture. What most people of faith who are members of the Democratic party realize is that not everyone shares their beliefs, and so it's unfair in a multi-religious society to force all to conform to one set of beliefs. That's the reason the Democratic party is largely pro-choice, even though the majority doesn't like abortion, or why the party is largely pro gay-rights, even though most of the party is straight. They separate their personal religious beliefs from public policy, but they're still religious.


Edit--I should clarify. When I say "never," I don't mean the party as a whole. I'm sure there are Dems somewhere who have done just that. I was talking about the people using religious contexts at the convention in their speeches.