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Don't tell me this fucker is going to die and get away with it.

And what exactly would you do to him that would make him pay before he dies? Toss him in jail to die and rot? Kill him yourself?

Let the Kurds have him. Any American grievance we have with him is insignificant compared to them.

Don't tell me this fucker is going to die and get away with it.

Don't worry, If he dies, he will be brought to justice and prosecuted for it. Nobody dies and gets away with it on Bush's watch.

I fhe dies this would be like hitler commiting suicide before we got him. i would let the kurds have him to torture.

Saddam has a right to a fair trial, not just to hold up the legal system as whole. But because it is looking increasingly likely that Saddam didn't kill as many people as the Americans claim he did. I wouldn't be surprised if the demonisation of Saddam was a bit of an over exagerration played onto the media.

Let the Kurds have him. Any American grievance we have with him is insignificant compared to them.


The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.

-- Winston Churchill

As I am sure you are aware the esteemed Mr Churchill also said "I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes." As I'm sure you also know this comment was in connection with the order he gave for the use of poison gas against the Kurdish people.


I believe this is called 'irony'.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/tm_objectid=14467737&method=full&siteid=50143&headline=saddam-s--stroke--name_page.html


Don't tell me this fucker is going to die and get away with it.

Darn! After all that expense and he goes and croaks anyway.

Do you have confirmation? No of the other news sites say anything.

As I am sure you are aware the esteemed Mr Churchill also said "I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes." As I'm sure you also know this comment was in connection with the order he gave for the use of poison gas against the Kurdish people.


I believe this is called 'irony'.

Yeah, well, just because I have a Churchill quote doesn't mean I'm advocating everything he ever said or advocated.

As I am sure you are aware the esteemed Mr Churchill also said "I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes." As I'm sure you also know this comment was in connection with the order he gave for the use of poison gas against the Kurdish people.


What!?? You mean someone OTHER than the US has done something wrong in the world? It HAS to be a lie. No doubt, Churchill was influenced by the CIA, or some other illogical answer......


the previous statement was an example of sarcasm....

Don't worry, If he dies, he will be brought to justice and prosecuted for it. Nobody dies and gets away with it on Bush's watch.Ohh, that was brave.

4 other sources are saying the same thing
http://news.google.com/news?q=saddam+stroke&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=nn

Yeah, well, just because I have a Churchill quote doesn't mean I'm advocating everything he ever said or advocated.

As I said I was just pointing out the irony.

What!?? You mean someone OTHER than the US has done something wrong in the world? It HAS to be a lie. No doubt, Churchill was influenced by the CIA, or some other illogical answer......

Yes, indeed it was the influence of the CIA agents using time-travel technology recovered from the Roswell crash sight which led him to do such a thing. The fact that the British Empire was a vile and racist place had nothing to do with it. Obviously.

I have Churchill quote for you...

Winston Churchill was at a party, and was aparently being rather boisterous, and was approached by a woman.

Woman: You sir, are drunk!
Churchill: I may be drunk, but you Madame, are ugly, and in the morning, I will be sober.

Friends of Bill- No, actually it was not brave at all, it was a joke about Saddam getting away with dying in prison. Some people really need to lighten up!

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Originally Posted by Custodes Rana
What!?? You mean someone OTHER than the US has done something wrong in the world? It HAS to be a lie. No doubt, Churchill was influenced by the CIA, or some other illogical answer......


Yes, indeed it was the influence of the CIA agents using time-travel technology recovered from the Roswell crash sight which led him to do such a thing. The fact that the British Empire was a vile and racist place had nothing to do with it. Obviously.

Hey, at the time of Churchill the British Empire was not a vile and racist place, it was noway near as bad as the USA anyway, and if you had read the rest of the post you would have seen they were being sarcastic

I have Churchill quote for you...

Winston Churchill was at a party, and was aparently being rather boisterous, and was approached by a woman.

Woman: You sir, are drunk!
Churchill: I may be drunk, but you Madame, are ugly, and in the morning, I will be sober.


Ahh, one of my favorite Churchill quotes. :)

I say we take him to iraq up into kurdish territory, stick him in a cage, and set him up in the middle of the village, make him dance like a monkey, and then open the cage, and let the Kurds have him. I know many say "embarass him before he dies? we are just as bad and cruel as him" my answer, screw you. give him back to the people he killed and embarass him as much as possible for all that he has killed. Again this makes us horrible people right? who cares. the mans a genocidal ecosysem destroyer. I dont see a problem in doing everything we can to him. YEah...ok. bye

Hey, at the time of Churchill the British Empire was not a vile and racist place,

Well, in my lifetime it was still legal and common practice for boarding houses to display signs saying "NO BLACKS NO DOGS NO IRISH", which fits both categories, and such practices were much more common when Churchill was still alive

it was noway near as bad as the USA anyway,

Fair enough, but that doesn't excuse British racism

...and if you had read the rest of the post you would have seen they were being sarcastic

Yes, I was agreeing with him.

Yes, I was agreeing with him.
Okay then, I forgive you. :P

I think its kind of a fair punishment for him...he spent millions in protection and on fighting a war to stop him being captured or killed by his enemies and whiled his tiem away living it up in a palace .... And in the end he is bought down by his own lifestyle and body, for whihc he can only blame himself.
Its testament to the fact that no matter how powerful you are, or evil you may have been...you're still human, and not all the money in the world can change that.

*goes into conspiracy theory mode*

Well, you never thought they'd let him testify in open court about who he got the WMD from, who helped him target people with them, and the other deals that led to the US vetoing the attempted resolutions at the time to try and stop him did you?

*exits consipracy theory mode*

Well, it couldn't happen to a nastier guy!

Hmm, a head of state that now has trouble speaking coherently, has had close ties to the CIA in the past, had a great deal of doubts expressed about the process of their last election and invades countries in the Middle East... who exactly were we talking about again?

Well, sucks for him.

He's faking it, it's all part of his escape plan.

*goes into conspiracy theory mode*

Well, you never thought they'd let him testify in open court about who he got the WMD from, who helped him target people with them, and the other deals that led to the US vetoing the attempted resolutions at the time to try and stop him did you?

*exits consipracy theory mode*



Numerous countries sent samples of anthrax and other deadly diseases to the Baghdad University. Unfortunately for the Iraqi's these samples can not be used as a WMD.

The West's role in providing Iraq with anthrax know-how began at a key workshop in Winchester in 1988. Among 80 scientists from around the world were Dr Nasser el-Hindawi and his assistant, Dr Thamer Abdel Rahman, microbiologists working for Iraq 's secret biological weapons programme. The programme's aim was to develop weapons to spread anthrax , gas gangrene, botulism toxin, brucellosis, rabbit foot and tetanus.

Winchester??

UN officials describe the workshop as a 'Who's Who of anthrax research'. They say the three-day meeting was devoted entirely to anthrax with 'a full exchange of ideas and materials'. Among the British participants was Harry Smith, now emeritus professor of microbiology at Birmingham University. A world authority on anthrax , he says: 'To be perfectly frank, I didn't know {the Iraqis} were there.'

3 day meeting devoted to anthrax??

The mastermind behind Iraq's bio-weapons programme is thought to be Dr Rihab Taha. She has been dubbed 'Dr Germ' by western media. It is of some embarrassment to the UK Government that she took her Phd in plant toxins at the University of East Anglia between 1981-84.

East Anglia??

Strangely, these places sound like the UK.

Sounds like Germany was busy too:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/cw/az120103.html
Historically, the Germans have been the uncontested masters in the discovery, production, and development of lethal poison gases used in warfare, such as mustard gas that is identified by the chemical compound symbol of C1Ch2-Ch2-S-Ch2-Ch2CI. This gas was discovered by German scientists and was first used in 1917.........


Need any more info......feel free to ask.

Numerous countries sent samples of anthrax and other deadly diseases to the Baghdad University. Unfortunately for the Iraqi's these samples can not be used as a WMD.


Jeez... a guy can't have a little fun without somebody bringing FACTS to the table....

OK, along that line there IS the Reigle report that lists the precursors exported from the US, so yes there were multiple sources.

However it should also be noted that it has been reported that the US provided advisors to help teach the Iraqi's how to target their weapons better - including giving access to satellite feeds for recon. there was the export of the "crop spraying" helicopters (Huey's no less as I recall) despite sanctions in place at the time. yada, yada, yada. Too much to list really.

However if you want the Brits to take their share of the blame, well be my guest. It would certainly help explain the coalition now wouldn't it?

Hmm, a head of state that now has trouble speaking coherently
George Bush?

*goes into conspiracy theory mode*

Well, you never thought they'd let him testify in open court about who he got the WMD from, who helped him target people with them, and the other deals that led to the US vetoing the attempted resolutions at the time to try and stop him did you?

*exits consipracy theory mode*

Well, it couldn't happen to a nastier guy!
Hee hee. Glad I'm not alone in wearing my tinfoil hat.

George Bush?

Give that man a virtual cigar.

This is all crap.

He lost thirty pounds, and is looking better than he has in twenty years.

Hee hee. Glad I'm not alone in wearing my tinfoil hat.

Aluminum works better.

Tin doesn't properly block the gama rays from Alpha Centauri.....

:D

As I am sure you are aware the esteemed Mr Churchill also said "I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes." As I'm sure you also know this comment was in connection with the order he gave for the use of poison gas against the Kurdish people.


I believe this is called 'irony'.

Heheh well done. Just thought someone had to give you credit for a thought inspiring post. Though I think we can easily look to the same abuses inside the United States. I mean hell we talk big about him using weapons of mass destruction.. we gave them weapons of mass destruction to defeat Iran. We have used weapons of mass destruction before as well. I still believe that Saddam should be given his just desserts though... his people demand it.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a second!
So if Saddam has a stroke and he needs the medical help, you won't give it to him??? What has happened to this world!!!!
I'm not saying that Saddam Hussein wasn't a bad person who did bad things. He has, but their was no imminent threat from Iraq. Why does the U.S. have to stick into everything???
Do we need to give him death penalty?? Or should we let him go into rehabilitation and therapy??? If he had a stroke, should we go on and let him die, or should we give him the medical care that any U.S. citizen and any person deserves?? Unless he has a DnR or whatever they call it, they have the right to give him the proper medical care....

Aluminum works better.

Tin doesn't properly block the gama rays from Alpha Centauri.....

:D
I'll remember that.