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There were no Republicans. There were no Democrats. There were no Bush supporters. There were no Bush haters. There were no Caucasians, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Middle Easterners. There were no gays. There were no straights. September 12, 2001, was the day that all 290 million of us stood together, as Americans.

Who else misses this one day, that we were all Americans?

There were no Republicans. There were no Democrats. There were no Bush supporters. There were no Bush haters. There were no Caucasians, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Middle Easterners. There were no gays. There were no straights. September 12, 2001, was the day that all 290 million of us stood together, as Americans.

Who else misses this one day, that we were all Americans?

I didn't stand with you.

I was all like "Fuck that, I want my cartoons."

It's gone man. Gone for good.

Until, of course, we get another attack like 9/11.

But that won't happen for another 60 years or so.

It's gone man. Gone for good.

Until, of course, we get another attack like 9/11.

But that won't happen for another 60 years or so.
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What I'd like to see is the Chicago Tribune Dilivered the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. What the world was like, hours before everything changed... Damn, I wish I grabbed it like I grabbed the sept. 12 news and the emergency middle-of-the-evening report they did on the 11.

I'm trying to focus on the amazing sense of unity, with this.

It's gone man. Gone for good.

Until, of course, we get another attack like 9/11.

But that won't happen for another 60 years or so.

Just wait till the elections.

Well, Bush had to do something to unite the nation around him so he could shread the constitution and annex Afghanistan and Iraq.

Well, Bush had to do something to unite the nation around him so he could shread the constitution and annex Afghanistan and Iraq.
1) Are you accusing Bush of masterminding 9/11?
2) Shred the Constitution? Enlighten me.
3) Annex Iraq and Afghanistan? Each are currently under their own leadership. The reason we're not leaving yet is because there are too many security issues.

It is sad isnt it??? It is true, we were completely united, but then all of a sudden politicians began to be politicians again and worry more about their job than what was best for the country. I want the days back when you served your term, then went back home...get rid of these career politicians, atleast in the House of Reps!!

I for one miss the day of 9/10/01...oh, the joys of looking at a lame duck president...

1) Are you accusing Bush of masterminding 9/11?
2) Shred the Constitution? Enlighten me.
3) Annex Iraq and Afghanistan? Each are currently under their own leadership. The reason we're not leaving yet is because there are too many security issues.


AMEN Xichuan!!!!

It is sad isnt it??? It is true, we were completely united, but then all of a sudden politicians began to be politicians again and worry more about their job than what was best for the country. I want the days back when you served your term, then went back home...get rid of these career politicians, atleast in the House of Reps!!

The problem is voters... they refuse to think for themselves. "Oh, we should trust the president, becuase presidents are so honest and would never use the army for a purpose we wouldn't approve of"

It sicken's me to say Yes when so many people died. It sicken's me to say no, because the world (USA) today, also sicken's me...In all honesty, any day I don't watch the news or read a newspaper, I am happy!

It sicken's me to say Yes when so many people died. It sicken's me to say no, because the world (USA) today, also sicken's me...In all honesty, any day I don't watch the news or read a newspaper, I am happy!
I know just what you mean. There used to be a lot of good news reported...missing child found, nobody's hurt, everyone goes home happy...but, it seems like after 9-11, there's rape, there's murder, there's plague...it's so depressing. You can thank the general media's motto of, "If it bleeds, it leads," for that.

Rysus: God bless you.

What I'd like to see is the Chicago Tribune Dilivered the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. What the world was like, hours before everything changed... Damn, I wish I grabbed it like I grabbed the sept. 12 news and the emergency middle-of-the-evening report they did on the 11.
I've been looking around on eBay for one. Haven't found one, yet, though. But I did discover a book, a compilation of 175 front-page images from September 12th. I'm looking to buy it.

1) Are you accusing Bush of masterminding 9/11?

Don't be silly, Bush couldn't mastermind a trip to Texas without tripping over his own dog. The PNAC masterminded 9/11: have you heard of them? They're a think-tank composed of Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and other creepy Neo-Cons. On page 63 of their manefesto, Rebuilding Americas Defenses, they call for a "Pearl Harbor Type event" to give the kickstart their world domination scheme needs. Don't take my word for it, see their very own words at www.newamericancentury.org


2) Shred the Constitution? Enlighten me.

The executive branch now has to power to carry out Indefinate arrest without charges, srip away citizenship, snoop through medical, fininacial and library records without probable cause, and even demand your ID in public (papers please).

3) Annex Iraq and Afghanistan? Each are currently under their own leadership. The reason we're not leaving yet is because there are too many security issues.

Puppet governments of occupied countires don't count as "their own leadership."

Texastambul, I've been through this argument so many times, that I just don't want to do it anymore. If you'd like to, I ask you to please carry it to a new thread. I created this one in the hopes of stirring up memories of, again, the one day that we were all Americans.

There were no Republicans. There were no Democrats. There were no Bush supporters. There were no Bush haters. There were no Caucasians, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Middle Easterners. There were no gays. There were no straights. September 12, 2001, was the day that all 290 million of us stood together, as Americans.

Who else misses this one day, that we were all Americans?

This entire thread is fucked-up. In order for September 12, you needed September 11. I don't think temporary unity as a country is worth over 3,000 lives. I'd rather have us get together as a country without the high body count.

I don't miss that day at all. Over 3,000 people had died the day before. Our entire country was turned upside-down. I'd rather have us get together as a country without the high body count.
I understand your argument, but I don't see what else might unify our country like that, in today's world... That's very messed up, when you think about it...

I understand your argument, but I don't see what else might unify our country like that, in today's world... That's very messed up, when you think about it...

It is messed up. I know that you don't want to see it again either.

As we saw, it was only a matter of time before we stopped being simply "Americans" and fell back into our old ways. But that's the way it should be. Unfortunately. I guess.

Texastambul, I've been through this argument so many times, that I just don't want to do it anymore. If you'd like to, I ask you to please carry it to a new thread. I created this one in the hopes of stirring up memories of, again, the one day that we were all Americans.

1) It's not an arguement, it's a cold hard fact that the PNAC openly called for "a Pearl Harbor type event" to carry throught their agenda-- you can deny it if you like (it's your choice)

2) Your definition of "American" is someone who is terrified to the point of unquestionable submission to a authoritarian figure. I find that obscene.

There were no Republicans. There were no Democrats. There were no Bush supporters. There were no Bush haters. There were no Caucasians, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Middle Easterners. There were no gays. There were no straights. September 12, 2001, was the day that all 290 million of us stood together, as Americans.

Who else misses this one day, that we were all Americans?

besides the 9 innocent muslims that were murdered in my town on that day because they were wearing turbans. Yeah, lots of understanding and love between Americans on that day...

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I would rather have sepparate groups happily argueing and bickering with eachother, rather than everyone together in mourning. That just....sucks!

1) It's not an arguement, it's a cold hard fact that the PNAC openly called for "a Pearl Harbor type event" to carry throught their agenda-- you can deny it if you like (it's your choice)

2) Your definition of "American" is someone who is terrified to the point of unquestionable submission to a authoritarian figure. I find that obscene.

1) he says it will take a long time to unify unless there IS a pearl harbor, not that one should be created. They also called for the retirement of air craft carriers, are you going to come up with a conspericy theory that cheney and the gang ordered the attack on the USS Cole?

2) i think he's talking about grief, and outreach, the lines at the bloodbank and everybody waving the american flags before they became so damn partisan. the patriot act wasnt passed until later. the conspericy and the hate didnt come until after that. we didnt invade afghanistan for a month. if you thought sept 12 was just about being scared shitless, you werent observant enough.

1) he says it will take a long time to unify unless there IS a pearl harbor, not that one should be created. They also called for the retirement of air craft carriers, are you going to come up with a conspericy theory that cheney and the gang ordered the attack on the USS Cole?


Is it so hard to believe? The Pentagon had a plan in 1962 to attack a US battleship, conduct a terror campaighn in DC and Miami and hijack a plan of US civilians -- and blame it all on Castro!

Don't believe me, read it for yourself, it's the government's own documents!
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/


The difference between than and now is they actually got to carry 9/11 out...

What I'd like to see is the Chicago Tribune Dilivered the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. What the world was like, hours before everything changed... Damn, I wish I grabbed it like I grabbed the sept. 12 news and the emergency middle-of-the-evening report they did on the 11.

You can always look it up at a library where they keep papers on microfilm.

I remember that day. EVERYONE wanted someone to tell them what was going on. Everyone wanted to know why anyone would do such a thing. We weren't all americans that day; we were all confused, hurt people, who for the first time in a long while realized that some want "us" dead so badly that they'd kill themselves to do it. And we wanted to believe that we were all honest, hard-working, good people whom such things couldn't possibly happen to. Like a little child who gets attacked after tormenting a housepet the shock of the pain and the anguish of not knowing what you've done wrong.

We cried out for answers, blood would be called for later. The answers came flowing down from the administration like wine to the suddenly sobered nation. And we drank that intoxicating patriotism in like relapsing alcoholics; never once questioning that we were right and good and just. We raised our flags high and beat the drums of war because we were right and good and just; avenging our fallen innocents, and dispelling any notion that we could have stopped this tragedy. We were right, good, and just about anything that got in our way was reviled and scorned; like that same child who lashes out at anything because of the pain, the pet that hurt it, the parents that try to help.

So now we've fought wars, killed foes, and declared the 9/11 attack unprovoked and monsterous. And indeed it was monsterous. However, we have tasted too deeply of our wine, and we are now drunk on the power of patriotism. We long for our next fix, our next draught. This thread is nothing more than a call to become drunk on power; to lose ourselves once again in that horrific inebriation of pain, anger, and helplessness. No, I don't miss that day, I spent the entire day after giving blood, preventing mosques from being burned, and talking down angry friends who wished the deaths of all those living in the middle east. I do not wish to repeat that day.

I remember that day well. I went to school and people were crying, I got accused of being evil when I said that more people die from starvation in a week, possibly a day than everyone who died in the WTC, and we had a special assembly in rememberance, and barely a week after that, everyone wanted to bomb afghanistan.

For weeks people were wearing USA t-shirts and USA flag stickers were on cars everywhere.

No problem with that, of course, except i'm Australian. I do respect my new colonial masters in Washington, of course. Don't get me wrong. :rolleyes:

Who else misses this one day, that we were all Americans?

Ah yes ... the fond memories of Sept. 12th ... everyone united in the cause to hate Muslims and suck on Bush's knob ... after all ... good, God-fearing Christians would never do something like that!

Oy ... you can have it. I'll take Sept. 10th again, myself.

There were no Republicans. There were no Democrats. There were no Bush supporters. There were no Bush haters. There were no Caucasians, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Middle Easterners. There were no gays. There were no straights. September 12, 2001, was the day that all 290 million of us stood together, as Americans.

Who else misses this one day, that we were all Americans?

Not quite. It was the day a lot of muslim Americans began feeling a lot more hatred from their fellow Americans for looking a certain way and/or believing in Allah. It's better described as unified against one specific ethnic group for a change from the usual division and hatred between the various ethnic groups.

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I really miss September 10th. If it took Sept 11 to get everyone together holding hands burning candles and singing cuum-bi-ah on Sept 12, I think the price was too high. I'd rather that Sept 11 never happened, and Sept 12 was just another day of everyone going about their business.
But Sept 11 did happen, and our world has never been like Sept 10th 2001 since then.