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Discuss.

Solves the problem of world hunger and overpopulation at the same time.

Answer: Definitely.

Voluntary or involuntary? Meaning, if I find a dead body and decide it's acceptable for me to eat it, then it's immoral. If I know the person while they are alive, and they are comfortable with being eaten when they are dead, then it's not. I don't believe it's a decision you can make without the permission of the person while they are alive.

I wouldn't have any problem at all with it, BUT eating the same thing that you are causes dieases in the brain. I would never eat a person that just nasty. So no I am against letting others do it.

I don't care what happens with my corpse when I'm done with it. Just so long as you don't size me up for the stew pot before I've attained room temperature.
So long as the human eating human is told by a human that they're eating human, and so long as you don't get out an axe every few days and start trying to fatten up your neighbours.

why would it be immoral for you to eat a person who cannot feel anymore? they're dead, you're hungry. CHOW DOWN!

Voluntary or involuntary? Meaning, if I find a dead body and decide it's acceptable for me to eat it, then it's immoral. If I know the person while they are alive, and they are comfortable with being eaten when they are dead, then it's not. I don't believe it's a decision you can make without the permission of the person while they are alive.

Verital will alert its advisors to compile a list of its citizens that wish to be eaten after death so that Syndenia's citizens may never go hungry.

In practicality, cannibalism is useful in that anothers (deceased) body make help another to live, but should not be sought out as a main food source, only as a last resort, as people tend to have sentimentalities attached to human bodies and that we have souls that will not be happy to be eaten.

Donner party anyone?

I wouldn't have any problem at all with it, BUT eating the same thing that you are causes dieases in the brain.

Enodscopia is suggesting that under normal circumstances one would not already have a disease in the brain to eat another human?

In practicality, cannibalism is useful in that anothers (deceased) body make help another to live, but should not be sought out as a main food source, only as a last resort, as people tend to have sentimentalities attached to human bodies and that we have souls that will not be happy to be eaten. actually it's a little more complicated than that. Most of the diseases, germs, viruses (viri?) that humans beings contract can be passed up the food chain to human beings when eaten. Conversely, very few of the viruses, germs and diseases that vegetables contract can be passed up the food chain to humans when consumed as food. These diseases tend to specialize and the closer the conditions between the dinner and the diner, the easier it is for the diseases to transfer. Take something like trichonosis, a type of worm that basically can only live in the tissue of a limited number of mammals; bears, rats, pigs, horses, hyenas, lions, panthers, humans are about it, so if one doesn't eat the flesh of those animals one need never fear from trichonosis - however the more of those animals you eat the more likely you are to be exposed to trichonosis. There really is a nasty little virus which is only trasmitted to humans by the consumption of the nervous tissue of a human being, if you don't eat human beings then you need never fear getting this disease. I wish to at least make a nod to evolutionary theory in noting that there is strong evidence that diseases in food animals tend to develop so as to infest both the food and the eater.

So lets consider these basic facts in light of morality and the categorical imperative. Using the categorical imperative in its simplist form, we can consider an action moral if it would be good if all people did it. So if all people ate human beings, then disease transmittal would go way up and we'd have a medical crises on our hands. So I think it reasonable to conclude that long pork is an immoral food.

because something has the potential to transmit disease doesnt make it immoral.

if private companies were able to inspect humans after they died for diseases and whatnot, and put them onto the market, i think that would work. sort of like the FDA only not gov. controlled.

speaking of the FDA i think it should be a non gov organisation. privatised.. but thats a different issue.

Meh. Tall pig leave something to be desired.

Jim SC

This is not the way to solve Overpopulation! It doesn't solve the problem of excessive growth! We need to legalize abortion and educated everyone on earth, esp. women. We need to support womens' choice in her reproduction. And we need to increase the wealth of everyone on Earth, not just fat Americans.

because something has the potential to transmit disease doesnt make it immoral.

if private companies were able to inspect humans after they died for diseases and whatnot, and put them onto the market, i think that would work. sort of like the FDA only not gov. controlled.

speaking of the FDA i think it should be a non gov organisation. privatised.. but thats a different issue.
I knew I simplified the categorical imperative too much. If all people were to eat human beings in all cases, would it be good for the whole? No. Because one can create conditions in which harms do not occur, it does not not make the act moral. Take rape, if a man were only to rape an unconcious person, using lubrication to prevent damage or soreness, and using a condom to prevent disease transmission and pregnancy, no harm occurs - the "victim" is not victimized, does not even know the event occured, cannot contract a disease ot become pregnant, but although no harm has occured rape does not become moral.

if it's voluntary then sure
do what you want

Southern Industrial:

you sound libertarian. w00t!

im not proposing it as a way to control population growth. seeing as the people would be dead already, that wouldnt really work.

what do we do with dead bodies anyway? bury them in the ground? burn then to ashes? toss the ashes over the side of a boat?
i see no reason (other than health. that can be fixed though) why we shouldnt eat people.

Meh. Tall pig leave something to be desired.

Jim SC
I love children. But my doctor says I have to cut down on the fatty foods.



Which reminds me of an unrelated question, are animal crackers Atkins friendly?

This is not the way to solve Overpopulation! It doesn't solve the problem of excessive growth! We need to legalize abortion and educated everyone on earth, esp. women. We need to support womens' choice in her reproduction. And we need to increase the wealth of everyone on Earth, not just fat Americans.
Verital suggests that Earth's nations overpopulate so much to the point that those weak die off and we are left with less people.

I.E...

"Must..suppress..population..OMG! IT BROKE! AAH! KILL! KILL! EUTHANASIA! WE NEED FOOD!"

or

"Eeeat....eeat my pretties...sex and drugs...thats right..starve and kill yourselves off till there's less of us...alright, start reproducin again and stop with the killin"

I wouldn't have any problem at all with it, BUT eating the same thing that you are causes dieases in the brain. I would never eat a person that just nasty. So no I am against letting others do it.

No... it's eating brains (and spine, etc.) that causes these diseases. Prions are frightfully abundant in nerve tissue, as well as in bone marrow, which is why cracking open the bones of infected meat is not a good idea either. Not saying that you absolutely cannot get CJD from the untainted (by brain and spinal fluid) muscle tissue of a BSE infected cow, or of a a CJD or kuru infected human, but it's a lot less of a risk.

In ancient times eating a deceased relative was seen by some as a way to honour the deceased. By eating various parts of the deceased you were supposed to absorb an element of him / her and allow that person to live a little longer.

I kinda like that idea :)

And hey, one good reason to combinea funeral with a BBQ :D

In ancient times eating a deceased relative was seen by some as a way to honour the deceased. By eating various parts of the deceased you were supposed to absorb an element of him / her and allow that person to live a little longer.

I kinda like that idea :)

And hey, one good reason to combinea funeral with a BBQ :D

The question is, do you put yourself at risk for getting an illness that contributed to his or her death?

I'd definetly try human at least once.

Just don't eat the brain, and you'll be fine.

That's not the question at all, the question is whether it's moral. And morals are just laws that are gray. They are for people who don't know better.

I'd definetly try human at least once.

Just don't eat the brain, and you'll be fine.

I must admit the concept is tempting... As long as I knew the guy wasn't killed for my purposes.

I must admit the concept is tempting... As long as I knew the guy wasn't killed for my purposes.

If he's anonymous, would it still matter?

If he's anonymous, would it still matter?

Wait... what? You mean if I didn't know the guy?

BTW, what are the laws concerning cannibalism in the US? Its an outright ban, right?

Wait... what? You mean if I didn't know the guy?

Yeah, if you knew nothing about him.

The question is, do you put yourself at risk for getting an illness that contributed to his or her death?

That's a possibility. But these days you can easily find out what parts are safe to eat and which parts are not.

Yeah, if you knew nothing about him.

I still say it would depend on why he died, but annonimity would have plusses

BTW, what are the laws concerning cannibalism in the US? Its an outright ban, right?
No federal law, unless the deceased is taken accross state lines (desecrating a corpse) All contiguous 48 states have laws against it, not sure about Alaska or Hawai.

At least in western societies lots of people die old. I don't fancy the idea of eating even animals that have died of old age. Plus, many old people are quite thin when they die. Growing humans for food wouldn't be such a good idea either, because I bet growing a human is a huge waste of resources even compared to cattle, which in itself is a waste compared to chickens and piggies. And don't humans taste like chicken.

Well, like in the daily issue, i think that if you want your corpse to be made into a tasty dinner, then that's okay with me. Some people liek the taste of human flesh, and they should have to murder jsut to get it. (I'm not a cannibal btw) But if that's how you wanna dispose of your corpse...great. Takes up less space and you help feed people.

However, if you're stuck in an isolated place...and there are dead people around...and you have no food...and you're REALLY REALLY hungery...JUST EAT A DAMN BODY! There's no sense in killing someone else and eating them. Because in essence, you save your life at the expense of others...but if they're already dead...no problems.

Have you read "Stranger in a Strange Land?" It deals with cannibalism after death. Is it moral? The question you should be asking is: does it taste good?

:fluffle: MALES AND FEMALES HAVE BEEN CHEWING EACH OTHER FOR EONS
BUT THEY CALL IT FOREPLAY ! NOT CANNIBALISM!!!,
AS THE LATE AND GREAT MIKE TYSON SAYS , FRIENDS LEND ME YOUR EARS

Have you read "Stranger in a Strange Land?" It deals with cannibalism after death. Is it moral? The question you should be asking is: does it taste good?


plenty of my friends will randomly lick/bite people.
none have actually eaten human flesh before. hm. they should just make it legal.

there are practical, biological reasons why eating the flesh of your own species is dangerous; parasites and other organisms that live in such flesh may be able to infect you, while parasites that live in other animals' flesh will generally not be able to adapt to your foreign system. i think there are reasons why eating human flesh is probably a less favorable option than other meats, but we have many ways of cleaning meats now that could make them non-issues.

"moral" to me is an irrelevant word, since it's all subjective. i think if something is reasonably safe non-harmful to others, and desired by the individual, then that individual should do it. maybe that is "moral," maybe not. don't know, don't really care.

Donner party of five!

Solves the problem of world hunger and overpopulation at the same time.

Answer: Definitely.
Exactly.

Anyone ever see the movie Cannibal the Musical? So far the greatest movie that I've purchased this year.

its not immoral just unwise

http://www.onenews.nzoom.com/onenews_detail/0%2C1227%2C240205-1-9%2C00.html

Recent news concerning an act of cannibalism in Germany.

This is really warped. (The victim had volunteered to be eaten).

I stick to what i said before, but I do agree that there are many risks to eating human flesh. Like mad cow disease. And other diseases you can get from spinal fluid, and brain matter (jsut don't eat those bits, it's not cheese)