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US Proliferation of nuclear weapons

Credonia
27-07-2004, 05:43
Today, I thought I'd address an issue that not very many people are aware of, the United States' proliferation of nuclear weapons. Over the past three weeks, I have been researching this topic for a scholarship award in which I am to write a speech addressing the U.S. president, Congress, and the American populus. During my research, I found out that President Bush along with Congress made provisions to allow the United States to produce nuclear weapons, primarily low-yield conventional nuclear bunker-buster bombs. Two important bills passed for the 2004 Fiscal Year by Congress making way for the construction of these weapons are the Defense Authorization Bill, and the Energy and Water Apportions Bill.

It is apparent that in order to create more nuclear weapons, facilities must be opened in order to actually produce weapons-grade plutonium and uranium. For this reason, the U.S. has opted to reopen the Los Alamos plant in New Mexico, which will be the only place in America that could produce weapons-grade plutonium. The plutonium produced at this plant would be used towards creating the low-yield conventional nuclear weapons.

While it is within the US' right to defend itself as it sees fit, there are some serious consequences that come with this new shift in U.S. foreign policy. These concerns are best brought out in two Congressional resolutions, Senate Resolution 76, and House Resolution 291. H.R. 291, the longest and most detailed of the two highlights five major points that explain the various downsides to the change in foreign policy:

1) It is contrary to fundamental requirements of international law, because the UN Charter does not permit preventive war.

2) It is counter productive, because US reliance on nuclear weapons encourages other states to acquire them, ultimately increasing the likelihood that a nuclear weapon will be used against the US.

3) It is antithetical to the United States' obligation under the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty (NPT)

4) It is dangerous, because the assertion of the US right to engage in preventive war encourages other states to assert the same right.

5) It is also immoral, because they place a threat of mass destruction and the assertion of a right to initiate war, at the core of US foreign policy.

What is not mentioned, however, is the fact that this undermines the purpose of the START II treaty, which was created for the purpose of reducing nuclear arms world wide, whilst setting up nations for a total and complete disarmament of weapons of mass destruction within the next 10-20 years. By continuing on on the path the U.S. is on at the present time, it is increasing the liklihood that other nations such as Iran and North Korea will accelerate their nuclear weapoons programs. This presents another diplomatic program, because these nations will retort that if the United States has the right to build nuclear weapons, then they have the same right. Although these nations would use that as an excuse to create such weapons, I am in total agreeance. All nations have the right to protect themselves by any means necessary from any and all enemies. It is not fair that the US be able to break binding and permanent international laws by creating such weapons and forcefully allowing other nations to refrain from proliferating them in the same manner that the US is. In this instance, the United States would be categorized as the aggressor because it is taking on a policy of justifying pre-emptive conventional nuclear weapon strikes on all nations that threaten US interests at home and abroad. The use of these weapons on a conventional level is also morally wrong and additionally would have serious environmental repercussions, such as contaminated land, contaminated natural resources, and possible permanent damage to the atmosphere.

For decades the US has pressed, pressured, and threatened nations to stop pursuit, procurement, and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, however, the US goes behind the world's back and secretly plans to create more nuclear weapons, adding to the tremendous number that the US already has. This is what I like to call "hypocritical foreign policy", as the US isnt practicing what it has been for so long preaching. How do you expect to gain the respect, trust, and cooperation of the entire international commuunity if we do something that we have for so long been protesting against?

posted by Kaimoni at 3/30/2004 09:12:58 PM

Written by Kaimoni Sutton. Copyright 2004

If you wish to use any part of this editorial for any reason, contact me first to ask for permission.
Colodia
27-07-2004, 05:45
basically...it comes down to this.

Who would you trust with a nuclear weapon. A hyperactive 4 year old, or a drunken 30 year old?
Enodscopia
27-07-2004, 05:47
We need Nuclear weapons they will be the ONLY thing that saves us if China every decides to send is millions and millions of soldiers into Alaska. As the the UN charter we should leave with out Americas support it would fall apart in a year.
Credonia
27-07-2004, 05:56
China wouldnt dare do that. It would be an economic disaster for them.

Also, the fall of the UN wouldnt really affect anything. Its role in international issues is becoming less significant and is becoming less effective with every crisis the world faces. Take for instance the US unilateral action going into iraq. We totally disregarded the UN. We were gonna go in whether it was sanctioned or not. It makes the UN more ilegitimate.
Zeppistan
27-07-2004, 05:58
Despite my objections to the reconstitution of the expensive pursuit of new classes of nukes, you do your editorial a great disservice by categorizing this action as the US "secretly planning" this initiative.

It was debated in open session. The full text of the bill is posted - as are all congressional bills - and can be viewed by anybody here if they care to go look it up.

Counting on the apathy of the American public not to pay attention to these things does not a secret make!


And what the hell is up with copyrighting posts to a discussion forum. By it's very nature that seems to be an attempt to limit debate as you could attempt to argue that a reply with a quoted section of your post was in violation.

Its... lame. Sorry - don't mean to be rude - but it is.

-Z-
Enodscopia
27-07-2004, 06:01
China wouldnt dare do that. It would be an economic disaster for them.

Also, the fall of the UN wouldnt really affect anything. Its role in international issues is becoming less significant and is becoming less effective with every crisis the world faces. Take for instance the US unilateral action going into iraq. We totally disregarded the UN. We were gonna go in whether it was sanctioned or not. It makes the UN more ilegitimate.

I think China might in the next 10-20 years because of the consumption of oil. And I also think China might have a capitalist revolution in that amount of time.
Thou Shalt Not Lie
27-07-2004, 06:03
The US should honour the existing non-poliferation treaties, and get on with the destruction of existing nuclear weapons.

Manufacturing more nukes, sends a signal to other countries such as China and Russia that the US cannot be trusted. What you get is a renewed arms race.

I believe that China has about 400 nukes. Russia around 10 to 15 thousand and the US has about 35 to 50 thousand. Someone help me on the numbers?

If Bush is pushing for more nuclear weapons, then he is giving the electorate another very good reason to send him to retirement.

Stop the insanity.
GMC Military Arms
27-07-2004, 06:08
If you wish to use any part of this editorial for any reason, contact me first to ask for permission.

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Credonia
27-07-2004, 06:11
Despite my objections to the reconstitution of the expensive pursuit of new classes of nukes, you do your editorial a great disservice by categorizing this action as the US "secretly planning" this initiative.

It was debated in open session. The full text of the bill is posted - as are all congressional bills - and can be viewed by anybody here if they care to go look it up.

Counting on the apathy of the American public not to pay attention to these things does not a secret make!


And what the hell is up with copyrighting posts to a discussion forum. By it's very nature that seems to be an attempt to limit debate as you could attempt to argue that a reply with a quoted section of your post was in violation.

Its... lame. Sorry - don't mean to be rude - but it is.

-Z-


Firstly, i never said it was secretly planning. The resolutions are right there in the congressional library site. Thats where i got all of my information from.

Secondly, these editorials were not posted just on this forum. I made these editorials some time ago and copyrighted them. ALl i did was merely copy them on here to have a civilized debate. Im not limitig debate, but i am protecting my work so that no one uses it outside of this forum for any purpose unles they give me proper credit or ask permission. If i wanted to limit debate, i wouldnt have posted a copy of it at all. I would have just made a straight post and left my editorials alone.

Thirdly, it was at Bush's hand that we pulled from all non-proliferation agreements to facilitate this nuclear weapons making capability. It is also by his hand that he started this endeavour to start research on such weapons. Also, it is to my understanding thta if elected, John Kerry would put an end to that. I'll see to it that he does.
Zeppistan
27-07-2004, 06:16
Firstly, i never said it was secretly planning. The resolutions are right there in the congressional library site. Thats where i got all of my information from.


Oh, I must have missread:

For decades the US has pressed, pressured, and threatened nations to stop pursuit, procurement, and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, however, the US goes behind the world's back and secretly plans to create more nuclear weapons, adding to the tremendous number that the US already has. This is what I like to call "hypocritical foreign policy", as the US isnt practicing what it has been for so long preaching. How do you expect to gain the respect, trust, and cooperation of the entire international commuunity if we do something that we have for so long been protesting against?
Zeppistan
27-07-2004, 06:21
Incidentally, I'm pretty sure I read the following on the board terms of service:

When you submit content to NationStates.net, you grant the site and its administrator(s) a non-exclusive, royalty-free, worldwide, perpetual license to reproduce, distribute, transmit, and publicly display such content.

Posting here just trashed your copyright....
Trotterstan
27-07-2004, 06:24
yeah, i hate copyright law. I think i am going to o and download some metalicca just because i can.
Zeppistan
27-07-2004, 06:29
I didn't want to hijack the thread on a copyright law discussion. Sorry.

I just thought it was.... lame. And pretentious as hell.

This is a discussion board. If you want your discussions treated as being in some way more "professional" than anyone elses, I think that the thing to do would be to post them on a dedicated site of your own and link to them. That's all.

Anyway, carry on.

To summarize the on-topic portion of my reponse: In general I agree with the editorial, except for that incorrect characterization of it as some sort of "secret".
Credonia
27-07-2004, 06:45
Oh, I must have missread:


it was secretly planned in the beginning gbut obviously its public now since were talking about it...use common sense.


Ok im starting not to make sense now (i had to edit my statement)..i need to go to bed. I'll pick up on the debate later. G'night all.
Zeppistan
27-07-2004, 06:50
it was secretly planning in the beginning gbut obviously its public now since were talking about it...use common sense

Beg your pardon?

That is a BS argument. Using that logic EVERY congressional bill is initially "planned in secret" given that it is written up in private before it enters the realm of public debate neccessary to enact it into law.

Indeed, the fact that it was put through the Congressional process guarantees that it was never intended to be a secret.

YOU may not have followed this issue from the beginning.

Doesn't make it some sort of backroom black op like you attempt to portray it.


Anyway, you posted your article here for critique - you have mine. Mostly good points that I agree with, but you threw in that extra that was unwarranted and untrue.

-Z-
Holy panooly
27-07-2004, 09:40
We need Nuclear weapons they will be the ONLY thing that saves us if China every decides to send is millions and millions of soldiers into Alaska. As the the UN charter we should leave with out Americas support it would fall apart in a year.

#1 Probably the most farfetched thing I've ever heard... Nukes are all over the world. The former USSR states have them, Russia, China, North-Korea, France, Israel... Not to mention some countries have them but they won't admit it. I don't think anyone is going to risk a full-scale nuclear war.

#2 Complete bullshit. Practicly the whole world is in the UN and you say they fall apart when the US leaves?
Credonia
27-07-2004, 16:43
Just because nearly all the nations of the world are in the UN doesnt mean it wont become ineffective. And if/when it does, it will fall apart.
Lex Terrae
27-07-2004, 17:17
We have to update our arsenal periodically. I don't believe this will spark another arms race.