Moobyworld
26-07-2004, 18:27
ok just a thing thats been bugging me for a bit. Firstly i have been brought up a methodist/anglican but often go to catholic mass due to my own reasons.
When going to an anglican (protestant) service anyone can go up and recieve communian (if you recive it in your own church you can come up).
Whilst even in the more liberal of catholic masses non catholics can only recive a blessing. (i would make with the exception of members of the orthodox church who also have the direct line of succesion from Peter (the first pope).
Question: Does this give a true representaion of the one table one body one blood of the last supper. If we have more than one table does this defeat the object?
Biimidazole
26-07-2004, 19:40
Question: Does this give a true representaion of the one table one body one blood of the last supper. If we have more than one table does this defeat the object?
So are you asking why non-Catholics aren't allowed to receive the Eucharist at Mass, since it creates effectively separate tables (ie the Catholic table and the table of Anglicans/other denominations)? If that is what your are asking, then my answer is no, because the Anglican understanding of the Last Supper is distinctly different than the Catholic understanding of the Last Supper. From a Catholic view, the Anglican communion is not valid and therefore does not constitute a proper table.
If that's not what you were asking, could you rephrase it a bit better?
PioMagnus
06-08-2004, 01:48
If you do not believe everything in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, than you are not in communion, and by receiving communion you are being a hyppocrite, declaring belief where there is none.
Catholicism is against creating a false sense of community as it leads to the belief that everything is equal in God's eyes. Catholics don't believe that is the case. We believe that the One, Holy, and Apostolic Church founded by Jesus, entrusted to Peter is the summit of Christianity, the fullness of Truth.
Also, this is to protect the Person of Jesus in the Eucharist. Catholics believe that at the consecration the bread and wine become the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Chirst. As we believe this is really Jesus, we feel an obligation to protect his Sacred Species from profanation. We believe that an unbeliever receiving does this.1 Cor 11:27 "Whioever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drnk of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment to himself."--Not only that, but we also believe that receiving the Eucharist does him no good:
1 Cor 2:14 states "The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spritually diserned."
If I have not answered your question, please t-gram me, and we can exchange email addresses.
In Him, through her,
Pio Magnus